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BostonRich
02-18-2022, 01:08 PM
This morning around 11 AM my dog and I were attacked at the Mulberry Dog Park by the dog in the picture below. The dog bit my hand and broke the skin in five places.
The cowardly owner just walked out of the park to a golf cart that was driven by another man. The owner and equally nasty friend tried to drive off without giving me any information about the dog or himself. However they were photo captured by witnesses. The cart is a Grayish Yellow (NYS4) Yamaha with the names Janice and Jack on the front.
If anyone can please provide me with any additional information on these two men it would be appreciated. I am told that if I need medical attention I will need to file a police report and they will want the owners information.
You can Private Message me through the TOV site.
Thank you.
Stu from NYC
02-18-2022, 01:39 PM
Wow so sorry this happened hope he is identified and pays for this.
davem4616
02-18-2022, 01:46 PM
Wow so sorry this happened hope he is identified and pays for this.
exactly
shameful that an adult would just walk away after they saw their dog do something like that
a thorough washing with soap and water should suffice, but keep an eye on it
chock it up as one more reason that there are more horse's asses than there are horses
Bill14564
02-18-2022, 01:55 PM
You should contact a doctor to ask about the proper treatment for an animal bite. Be sure to mention that you know nothing about the dog.
Bjeanj
02-18-2022, 02:05 PM
You should contact a doctor to ask about the proper treatment for an animal bite. Be sure to mention that you know nothing about the dog.
You’re right—the OP has no way of knowing whether the dog is current on its shots.
This is a terrible situation. That dog owner is irresponsible. How can he just walk away from this incident?
I wish I recognized these people, and hope someone else does. Maybe also post on NextDoor? Are you also supposed to file a police report? I don’t know.
Spalumbos62
02-18-2022, 02:11 PM
This morning around 11 AM my dog and I were attacked at the Mulberry Dog Park by the dog in the picture below. The dog bit my hand and broke the skin in five places.
The cowardly owner just walked out of the park to a golf cart that was driven by another man. The owner and equally nasty friend tried to drive off without giving me any information about the dog or himself. However they were photo captured by witnesses. The cart is a Grayish Yellow (NYS4) Yamaha with the names Janice and Jack on the front.
If anyone can please provide me with any additional information on these two men it would be appreciated. I am told that if I need medical attention I will need to file a police report and they will want the owners information.
You can Private Message me through the TOV site.
Thank you.
So sorry this happened to you. Was it a dog fight that you stepped into, or did the lab just come running over and attack...which is odd for a lab, but of course possible.
Some people do not realize that the calmest dog will react in a dog park if either/both still have their leads on...dont know why, but they will, growls,snare or even fight.
I dont think you will have any trouble finding this person with the great photos and details. Did he deny or just drive away.
Best of luck concluding this issue and good luck with the hand.
Stu from NYC
02-18-2022, 02:36 PM
You’re right—the OP has no way of knowing whether the dog is current on its shots.
This is a terrible situation. That dog owner is irresponsible. How can he just walk away from this incident?
I wish I recognized these people, and hope someone else does. Maybe also post on NextDoor? Are you also supposed to file a police report? I don’t know.
Facial recognition via the police might identify the guy
Bogie Shooter
02-18-2022, 02:42 PM
Filing a police report seem appropriate to document the incident.
jimbomaybe
02-18-2022, 03:04 PM
Facial recognition via the police might identify the guy
Once you get an ID it would be time to find a good PI lawyer
dewilson58
02-18-2022, 03:13 PM
Hope you find him.
Keep us informed.......a villager or a visitor would be good to know.
:super:
golfing eagles
02-18-2022, 03:17 PM
I expect you will be able to identify this lowlife cretin. You have a picture, the cart, the names on the cart, and a general location and a picture of the dog. He will have neighbors that will know who he is, and given the type of person who would run away from this incident, I'm pretty sure he has PO'ed a few of them enough that they would be happy to turn him in. I hope I'm right.
Taltarzac725
02-18-2022, 03:28 PM
Mulberry Dog Park - The Villages, FL - AARP (https://local.aarp.org/place/mulberry-dog-park-the-villages-fl.html)
Sorry that happened to you. I have some friends who go to the field near Mulberry Dog Park with their two dogs. Maybe they will recognize this man and his dog.
PugMom
02-18-2022, 03:48 PM
above all else, the most important thing to find out is if this dog had his shots/rabies vax.
bagboy
02-18-2022, 05:18 PM
Filing a police report seem appropriate to document the incident.
Absolutely!!! And I would suggest getting a doctors opinion and written report.
Number 10 GI
02-18-2022, 05:32 PM
I'm pretty sure the dog isn't rabid but you don't want to take a chance. If rabies shots are administered quickly an individual will be safe but if it is allowed to progress there is only one outcome, death. Call the police/sheriff and contact the local health department, this owner and dog need to be found and the dog tested.
coralway
02-18-2022, 06:15 PM
walking around here, you need to be heeled. Defend yourself.
dougjb
02-18-2022, 06:26 PM
This is perhaps one of the most unsettling posts I have ever read on TOTV.
This man, and I use that term loosely, really deserves to be hauled up short by either the authorities or in a court of law. Apparently, others saw this happening. Yet, this miserable excuse for a human being still walked off. He should be made an example of. Once found, I think his home should be subject to protests. He needs to come forward....quickly....and admit his failure to act as a responsible human being. Perhaps his dog should also be euthanized...whether the dog is sick or not. That is the type of pup that should not be welcome in the Villages under any circumstance. And this lousy human being should not be welcome in the Villages either.
I am on the lookout for that cart. If it was driven by an abettor, too bad for him. He, too, should be ostracized.
BigSteph
02-18-2022, 07:03 PM
He is lucky you were civil -- I may have ruined his day, night, next day,....
walking around here, you need to be heeled. Defend yourself.
Bilyclub
02-18-2022, 07:11 PM
In most places an animal bite is mandatory to report just like a traffic accident. Leaving the scene is probably a chargeable offense.
Bunny1
02-18-2022, 09:05 PM
So sorry this happened to you. I believe someone right now knows this Person or Jack or Janice. Let's hope they are identified and take responsibility for this horrible human behavior. So disappointing to read.
skyking
02-18-2022, 09:30 PM
Well I'm sure you will not find him working out at the gym.
ditka41
02-18-2022, 09:41 PM
This jerk is wearing a shirt that proclaims he is a "Grandpa"! He is really a "GrandA$$" in my opinion. What a great example for the grandchildren! He must be an embarrassment for the whole family. Hope he has enough character to come forward and voluntarily go to the police.
Otherwise, he should be afraid to be here ----:boxing2: and he will pay somehow.
Mrprez
02-18-2022, 09:45 PM
I would go back to the dog park and ask around. Someone there might know him.
retiredguy123
02-19-2022, 12:12 AM
I would suggest cruising around the neighborhood and look at the sign names on the lamp posts.
Laker14
02-19-2022, 05:26 AM
OP, it might help if you can post a clearer picture that shows the name of the right fender of the cart, and the decorative decal on the front of the cart. If you can't post a clearer picture, can you tell us the name on the cart?
Sensei
02-19-2022, 05:48 AM
Eager to hear resolution to this.
wjg74
02-19-2022, 06:10 AM
Some suggestions: File a police report even if you dont have his name. Attach a copy of photo to report. See a doctor for treatment to be safe and post his photo on facebook and other social media sites. This should never happen here.
Good luck
DaleDivine
02-19-2022, 06:10 AM
OP, it might help if you can post a clearer picture that shows the name of the right fender of the cart, and the decorative decal on the front of the cart. If you can't post a clearer picture, can you tell us the name on the cart?
Read the OP's message... Names are JANICE and JACK...
Although he doesn't look like a Janice, looks more like a KAREN...
:ohdear::ohdear::pray::pray:
gettingby
02-19-2022, 06:21 AM
Two sides to every story. Where was your dog during all this? Dogs are dogs, they play and they fight. I have a ten year old very passive beagle and hates the dog parks.
Laker14
02-19-2022, 06:24 AM
Read the OP's message... Names are JANICE and JACK...
Although he doesn't look like a Janice, looks more like a KAREN...
:ohdear::ohdear::pray::pray:
I should have read more carefully. Thanks. I don't live up that way, so I won't likely see the cart, and I wouldn't be surprised if the cart stays in a garage for a while now, but I'll keep my eyes open.
Laker14
02-19-2022, 06:25 AM
Two sides to every story. Where was your dog during all this? Dogs are dogs, they play and they fight. I have a ten year old very passive beagle and hates the dog parks.
Of course there are two sides to every story, but since the cowardly jerk fled the scene, likely breaking at least one law, his side of the story doesn't matter right now. What matters is finding the guy so the OP learns whether or not a rabies shot is needed.
ldovermiller
02-19-2022, 06:26 AM
This is just one more reason we need to have registration plates on all golf carts to
identify these slugs when they try to run from the scene. Low or no cost should work.
Too many carts owned/operated by too many jerks!!
thevillages2013
02-19-2022, 06:31 AM
Ok so all the detectives here are on the same page the cart with the names on it was driven by another man indicating that he was probably Jack and Janice was his wife (not the guy with the dog with the grandpa shirt)
CappyRam
02-19-2022, 06:32 AM
Does a dog bite in FL constitute that the dog be put down? My guess is that’s why he fled…. Now having said that the piece of crap should have stayed around and delt with the consequences like a good upstanding citizen. Sorry this happened to you and I hope you identify him and get a quick resolution.
La lamy
02-19-2022, 06:32 AM
Since the Lowlife from hell was driven by someone else, I wouldn't be surprised if he was just visiting and not a resident. He probably knew he was leaving and thought he wouldn't be held responsible. Please keep at it though, you and every Villager deserves for this A..HOLE and accomplice to be accountable.
joelfmi
02-19-2022, 06:34 AM
Wow so sorry this happened hope he is identified and pays for this. I will note what you have gone through if in win I buy there.
gettingby
02-19-2022, 06:38 AM
This is perhaps one of the most unsettling posts I have ever read on TOTV.
This man, and I use that term loosely, really deserves to be hauled up short by either the authorities or in a court of law. Apparently, others saw this happening. Yet, this miserable excuse for a human being still walked off. He should be made an example of. Once found, I think his home should be subject to protests. He needs to come forward....quickly....and admit his failure to act as a responsible human being. Perhaps his dog should also be euthanized...whether the dog is sick or not. That is the type of pup that should not be welcome in the Villages under any circumstance. And this lousy human being should not be welcome in the Villages either.
I am on the lookout for that cart. If it was driven by an abettor, too bad for him. He, too, should be ostracized.
Not sure I’d encourage people to confront a person in their home. Euthanizing his dog is a bit to far as well especially since you only have one side of the story. Did the dog just run up to this person and bite them on the hand? How did the hand get in front of the dogs mouth? We all love our pets and our pet couldn’t have started this, right? It’s always somebody else’s fault. Dogs fight, all dogs fight. If you decide to take your perfect pet to the dog park you should expect that they might tangle with a bigger dog.
letue
02-19-2022, 06:44 AM
I am following this thread since I have witnessed many incidents at 2 dog parks near me - both residents and visitors. I am concerned all dogs aren't good dog park candidates and haven't necessarily been socialized however their owners bring them in anyway. Many of my neighbors won't go because it isn't safe for them or their dogs. Is there one governing body in the Villages that covers the dog parks?
golfing eagles
02-19-2022, 06:46 AM
Ok so all the detectives here are on the same page the cart with the names on it was driven by another man indicating that he was probably Jack and Janice was his wife (not the guy with the dog with the grandpa shirt)
In which case the driver will know who "grandpa" is, and I'm sure the sheriff could "convince" him to divulge his identity.
Bridget Staunton
02-19-2022, 07:03 AM
Find out if the dog has its shots is the most important thing. Need to see a doctor & file a police report
Cjskld
02-19-2022, 07:15 AM
Of course there are two sides to every story, but since the cowardly jerk fled the scene, likely breaking at least one law, his side of the story doesn't matter right now. What matters is finding the guy so the OP learns whether or not a rabies shot is needed.
Point of this post is …. Does anyone know this man’s name? They need to know if this dog is current on vaccinations.
The situation of how this lady was bitten is a separate conversation.
This man and his dog need to be found. I will be on the look out for this cart and jerk.
I sure do pray the dog is current on shots for this ladies safety and peace of mind.
OhioBuckeye
02-19-2022, 07:23 AM
I hope if this guy is identified & you report him to TV, & TV fine this guy & make show that dog has rabies shot. Then make him muzzle the dog when he walks him or have the dog put down. Wonder if this was a little kid & this dog bit this little kid in the face. We’ll hope your hand is OK & hope you don’t have to go through a series of rabie shots. Sorry to hear this, this is terrible!
thevillages2013
02-19-2022, 07:26 AM
In which case the driver will know who "grandpa" is, and I'm sure the sheriff could "convince" him to divulge his identity.
It’s not me! :boxing2:
christine J Toft
02-19-2022, 07:27 AM
This morning around 11 AM my dog and I were attacked at the Mulberry Dog Park by the dog in the picture below. The dog bit my hand and broke the skin in five places.
The cowardly owner just walked out of the park to a golf cart that was driven by another man. The owner and equally nasty friend tried to drive off without giving me any information about the dog or himself. However they were photo captured by witnesses. The cart is a Grayish Yellow (NYS4) Yamaha with the names Janice and Jack on the front.
If anyone can please provide me with any additional information on these two men it would be appreciated. I am told that if I need medical attention I will need to file a police report and they will want the owners information.
You can Private Message me through the TOV site.
Thank you.
May want to ask the Villages Radio if they would be willing to report something? Not sure of the legality of it, but it may be worth asking.
Ponygirl
02-19-2022, 07:31 AM
Not familiar with the laws in the county where this happened But very important to report the bite to Department of Health or whoever oversees animal bites A professional should discuss the situation with you and determine whether post exposure prophylactics is necessary when you don’t have opportunity to observe the dog under quarantine
If you could identify the owner the enforcement agency would place the dog under quarantine to observe the vaccinated dog for 10 days. An unvaccinated dog would be under a longer quarantine. I would think all dogs in the villages would be vaccinated
Additionally not familiar with laws but in most counties there are designations of potentially dangerous or dangerous dogs depending on behavior. You should report the incident where the dog bit you and your dog. Perhaps the agency is familiar with the dog and his behavior. Findings could label the dog as potentially dangerous or dangerous and require that the dog no longer go to a dog park or require walking with a muzzle or some other requirement.
Good luck. See a medical professional
All this info is coming from the person who oversaw this program in a state DOH. Theses were our laws. But the laws in your county may be different. I have not reviewed them.
birdawg
02-19-2022, 07:39 AM
If a dog bites someone you have to make sure it was vaccinated or you better get your rabies shots. You can die!
midiwiz
02-19-2022, 07:44 AM
767.04 Dog owner’s liability for damages to persons bitten.—The owner of any dog that bites any person while such person is on or in a public place, or lawfully on or in a private place, including the property of the owner of the dog, is liable for damages suffered by persons bitten, regardless of the former viciousness of the dog or the owners’ knowledge of such viciousness. However, any negligence on the part of the person bitten that is a proximate cause of the biting incident reduces the liability of the owner of the dog by the percentage that the bitten person’s negligence contributed to the biting incident. A person is lawfully upon private property of such owner within the meaning of this act when the person is on such property in the performance of any duty imposed upon him or her by the laws of this state or by the laws or postal regulations of the United States, or when the person is on such property upon invitation, expressed or implied, of the owner. However, the owner is not liable, except as to a person under the age of 6, or unless the damages are proximately caused by a negligent act or omission of the owner, if at the time of any such injury the owner had displayed in a prominent place on his or her premises a sign easily readable including the words “Bad Dog.” The remedy provided by this section is in addition to and cumulative with any other remedy provided by statute or common law.
There is more in the chapter, however also that cart came from villages - they do have a record of every cart bought, they could probably identify it over at Brownwood. just a thought.
Full-timer
02-19-2022, 07:55 AM
Summary: These Florida statutes outline the state's dog provisions, which mainly cover dangerous dog/dog bite laws. The owner of any dog that bites any person while such person is on or in a public place, or lawfully on or in a private place, including the property of the owner of the dog, is liable for damages suffered by persons bitten, regardless of the former viciousness of the dog or the owners' knowledge of such viciousness. However, any negligence on the part of the person bitten that is a proximate cause of the biting incident reduces the liability of the owner of the dog by the percentage that the bitten person's negligence contributed to the biting incident. If a dog that has previously been declared dangerous attacks or bites a person or a domestic animal without provocation, the owner is guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree. The dog will be impounded for a period of ten days during which time the owner of the dog may request a hearing.
Cassieb
02-19-2022, 07:56 AM
To cover yourself in case you need to sue the SOB you will need a doctors report and also a police report would help you. This guy will be found but I bet he will not pay for any expenses so be prepared to go to small claims court.
Full-timer
02-19-2022, 08:01 AM
File a report. Bring pictures with you. Hold those people responsible.
If you don't, it could happen to someone else if it hasn't already.
The police can help find the person. They can also tell you if you can post pictures on social media to help find him.
Many folks (young and old) are on social media all day.
gwenhwalker@yahoo.com
02-19-2022, 08:01 AM
Do not blame the dog. Euthanize the owner
PugMom
02-19-2022, 08:11 AM
Not sure I’d encourage people to confront a person in their home. Euthanizing his dog is a bit to far as well especially since you only have one side of the story. Did the dog just run up to this person and bite them on the hand? How did the hand get in front of the dogs mouth? We all love our pets and our pet couldn’t have started this, right? It’s always somebody else’s fault. Dogs fight, all dogs fight. If you decide to take your perfect pet to the dog park you should expect that they might tangle with a bigger dog.
i understand your point, you raise valid questions. in most cases the dogs scrap a bit, possibly to establish territory, then 'move on' to other activities (for lack of better word). most people are caring re: their pets & will accept responsibility for that pets' actions. i don't think anyone WANTS the guy incarcerated/dog put down, just own up to whatever his dog has done, maybe exchange names, pay for stitches, etc. --the situation did not have to end like this.
Marine1974
02-19-2022, 08:14 AM
Hope for no infections and this dog
owner will be caught and suffer consequences for fleeing the scene .
tklloop
02-19-2022, 08:19 AM
Not sure I’d encourage people to confront a person in their home. Euthanizing his dog is a bit to far as well especially since you only have one side of the story. Did the dog just run up to this person and bite them on the hand? How did the hand get in front of the dogs mouth? We all love our pets and our pet couldn’t have started this, right? It’s always somebody else’s fault. Dogs fight, all dogs fight. If you decide to take your perfect pet to the dog park you should expect that they might tangle with a bigger dog.
It’s amazing how the people on this blog jump onto a bandwagon and then want “blood”. Perhaps put down the hangman noose and wait for both sides of the story? Or better yet, get a life!
Captainpd
02-19-2022, 08:24 AM
So we all "assume" the story is actually how it happened. Every story has 2 sides. This person is certainly quilty with no knowledge of the "truth"
Sandy and Ed
02-19-2022, 08:25 AM
This is perhaps one of the most unsettling posts I have ever read on TOTV.
This man, and I use that term loosely, really deserves to be hauled up short by either the authorities or in a court of law. Apparently, others saw this happening. Yet, this miserable excuse for a human being still walked off. He should be made an example of. Once found, I think his home should be subject to protests. He needs to come forward....quickly....and admit his failure to act as a responsible human being. Perhaps his dog should also be euthanized...whether the dog is sick or not. That is the type of pup that should not be welcome in the Villages under any circumstance. And this lousy human being should not be welcome in the Villages either.
I am on the lookout for that cart. If it was driven by an abettor, too bad for him. He, too, should be ostracized.
Agree with response except where his house should be picketed and his dog euthanized even if not rabid. First let legal recourse deal with the a-hole and second we don’t know why dog bit him so let’s not jump to conclusions
Cyndee@twc.com
02-19-2022, 08:25 AM
I would think TV security could find a cart with the two names on it that you have . police report they might try to track him down. Any chance he was busy with his friend out side the fence and did not see what happened?
ithos
02-19-2022, 08:26 AM
It’s amazing how the people on this blog jump onto a bandwagon and then want “blood”. Perhaps put down the hangman noose and wait for both sides of the story? Or better yet, get a life!
:popcorn:
psych2002
02-19-2022, 08:31 AM
So sorry. Good luck
JanetMM
02-19-2022, 08:34 AM
I think most people here are not so much angered at the dog. Dogs DO bite sometimes, and we might never know the reason. It is that the human in this situation did not take responsibility for his critter. “Grandpa” slinking off is the COWARD’S way. No matter what the other side of story is, the guy with the dog was in the wrong for “escaping” without taking measures to fix the problem his animal caused. GRANDPA and his driver should be ashamed of such cowardly and selfish behavior. Be a man and own up.
kennethshifrin
02-19-2022, 08:42 AM
You should seek medical intervention ASAP. Rabies is most probably not an issue, but a bacterial infection is. I've been bitten twice, and both times I was put on a course of antibiotics. Also, a thorough cleansing was necessary. Had to return to see the doc several times to make sure the wounds were not infected.
Cliff Fr
02-19-2022, 08:48 AM
One of the reasons I never take our dogs to a dog park or go to one
Laker14
02-19-2022, 08:48 AM
it seems likely that when "Grandpa" left the scene without giving out his identity and contact information, he upped the ante from a civil case, likely handled by his insurance company, to very possibly a criminal offense.
Topgun 1776
02-19-2022, 08:51 AM
Yes...I agree ..In my humble opinion...file a police report. This is comparable to assault. This dog owner should be held liable and the dog banned from our parks. If you don't follow up with legal action it will only happen again to someone else
Taltarzac725
02-19-2022, 08:56 AM
it seems likely that when "Grandpa" left the scene without giving out his identity and contact information, he upped the ante from a civil case, likely handled by his insurance company, to very possibly a criminal offense.
That sounds accurate. Probably depends a lot on what the dog owner does in the coming days. He should contact the person who was bitten by his pooch.
What To Do After You Were Bitten & Injured By Someone Else’s Dog In Florida | The Florida Law Group (https://www.thefloridalawgroup.com/news-resources/what-to-do-after-you-were-bitten-injured-by-someone-elses-dog-in-florida/)
airstreamingypsy
02-19-2022, 09:05 AM
This is perhaps one of the most unsettling posts I have ever read on TOTV.
I agree, I actually got emotional reading it. How anyone could be such a monster is beyond comprehension.
To the OP, Call the police, this is a crime.
Topgun 1776
02-19-2022, 09:05 AM
Not sure I’d encourage people to confront a person in their home. Euthanizing his dog is a bit to far as well especially since you only have one side of the story. Did the dog just run up to this person and bite them on the hand? How did the hand get in front of the dogs mouth? We all love our pets and our pet couldn’t have started this, right? It’s always somebody else’s fault. Dogs fight, all dogs fight. If you decide to take your perfect pet to the dog park you should expect that they might tangle with a bigger dog.
Wow!!! Really???!!! Regardless what caused the bite... leaving the scene certainly denotes the victim didn't do anything to provoke this...also, the pics were taken by witnesses so obviously they felt it was unjustified. I'm sure your dog is perfect though...sounds like maybe you might know this guy or maybe more....hmmmm....
airstreamingypsy
02-19-2022, 09:12 AM
Two sides to every story. Where was your dog during all this? Dogs are dogs, they play and they fight. I have a ten year old very passive beagle and hates the dog parks.
Really? What would the side of the guy whose dog bit someone, and he left the scene?
KimmieK
02-19-2022, 09:15 AM
The Recreation Department oversees the Dog Parks in The Villages.
Taltarzac725
02-19-2022, 09:21 AM
The Recreation Department oversees the Dog Parks in The Villages.
I think "oversees" stretches what happens there with respect to the upkeep and supervision by the Villages Recreation Department. Unless things have changed a great deal since I have been to various Villages' dog parks.
You are on your own when visiting. There might be a busybody Villager checking your ID but very seldom did I see that happen.
Rheinl271
02-19-2022, 09:22 AM
If you seek medical attention (at minimum get an antibiotic) you will be required to complete a dog bite report that will be followed up by the FL Dept of Health or an animal control agency. It may be difficult until you can ID the owner, but they absolutely will contact the owner if possible.
MrFlorida
02-19-2022, 09:27 AM
Somebody will recognize him , just a matter of time.
billethkid
02-19-2022, 09:29 AM
No reaction(s) to any of the posts from OP?!
rrtjp
02-19-2022, 09:30 AM
Another trial by TOTV. I’d like to hear grandpas side of what happened.
Lea N
02-19-2022, 09:32 AM
I would go back to the dog park and ask around. Someone there might know him.
This is a good idea. It's possible the people who run the place know him and his dog.
collie1228
02-19-2022, 09:36 AM
Usually personal injury attorneys will consult with you for no charge. If you have to go through the pain and suffering of rabies shots, you might want to sue Grandpa for your injuries. He needs to get knocked around for this - and hitting him in his pocketbook might be the best route. Good luck.
Ken D.
02-19-2022, 09:38 AM
Whoever took these pictures, another guy (standing) in the 3rd picture was having a conversation with the dog owner. There’s more here than meets the eye. What did the owner tell that guy?
letue
02-19-2022, 09:53 AM
I agree. There is very little maintenance that takes place other than grass cutting and refilling the bags in the canister.
Dealing with each individual Rec center is not ideal so I was hoping there was another option for raising concerns.
CosmicTrucker
02-19-2022, 09:54 AM
Look down at the right hand of the guy in the third picture. Clue
PugMom
02-19-2022, 10:00 AM
Not familiar with the laws in the county where this happened But very important to report the bite to Department of Health or whoever oversees animal bites A professional should discuss the situation with you and determine whether post exposure prophylactics is necessary when you don’t have opportunity to observe the dog under quarantine
If you could identify the owner the enforcement agency would place the dog under quarantine to observe the vaccinated dog for 10 days. An unvaccinated dog would be under a longer quarantine. I would think all dogs in the villages would be vaccinated
Additionally not familiar with laws but in most counties there are designations of potentially dangerous or dangerous dogs depending on behavior. You should report the incident where the dog bit you and your dog. Perhaps the agency is familiar with the dog and his behavior. Findings could label the dog as potentially dangerous or dangerous and require that the dog no longer go to a dog park or require walking with a muzzle or some other requirement.
Good luck. See a medical professional
All this info is coming from the person who oversaw this program in a state DOH. Theses were our laws. But the laws in your county may be different. I have not reviewed them.
your laws look pretty close to the ones here. i think that quarantine law is the same, 10 days to observe signs of rabies. sadly, there is no test for rabies in a live animal--all conclusions are post mortem
edp411@yahoo.com
02-19-2022, 10:01 AM
I hope you contacted the police
PugMom
02-19-2022, 10:04 AM
i know, right? this could turn into something ugly
rrtjp
02-19-2022, 10:04 AM
Here’s a little different take on what could have happened. I wasn’t there just like the rest of you chiming in here where not there or witnessed this “unprovoked attack”. What if this poor “victim” provoked grandpa’s dog? As I am typing this a advertisement comes on my TV for a Personal injury attorney, lol. Two sides to every story. Why hasn’t the OP chimed back in on any of these posts??
PugMom
02-19-2022, 10:05 AM
maybe he's been advised to keep quiet. many lawyers will tell you to get off social media
Bellavita
02-19-2022, 10:09 AM
I am sorry this happened to you. Dog owner needs to take responsibility give records for rabies. At least be concerned. Your wound looks normal not a vicious bit and our old skin doesn't take kindly to sharp objects. Clean it well and use neosporin once then keep it covered in vaseline. It is important to find out if the dog has its rabies shot. I would like to know how this happened? Did the dog walk over and bite you or did you get between two dogs playing or fighting? It makes a very big difference for the life of the dog. And you. Dog owners should be responsible if you are bit no matter how they must have their shots. They should have shared information instead of running away like guilty criminals.
This morning around 11 AM my dog and I were attacked at the Mulberry Dog Park by the dog in the picture below. The dog bit my hand and broke the skin in five places.
The cowardly owner just walked out of the park to a golf cart that was driven by another man. The owner and equally nasty friend tried to drive off without giving me any information about the dog or himself. However they were photo captured by witnesses. The cart is a Grayish Yellow (NYS4) Yamaha with the names Janice and Jack on the front.
If anyone can please provide me with any additional information on these two men it would be appreciated. I am told that if I need medical attention I will need to file a police report and they will want the owners information.
You can Private Message me through the TOV site.
Thank you.
PugMom
02-19-2022, 10:13 AM
Agree with response except where his house should be picketed and his dog euthanized even if not rabid. First let legal recourse deal with the a-hole and second we don’t know why dog bit him so let’s not jump to conclusions
yeah, makes it seems like a posse should be formed, complete with lynch mob :popcorn:
Vermilion Villager
02-19-2022, 10:27 AM
you should contact a doctor to ask about the proper treatment for an animal bite. Be sure to mention that you know nothing about the dog.
omg i'm serious!!!!!!!! You need to either find this dog and confirm it has had its rabie shots!!!!! If you can't then you must get the rabies shots!!!! Rabies is 100% fatal in humans!!!!!
Halbraun
02-19-2022, 10:28 AM
If you look at the picture of the dog, you can see he is wearing a rabies tag..
Number 10 GI
02-19-2022, 10:31 AM
It doesn't matter one bit whether the dog was provoked, the owner should not have left the scene so that it could have been determined by proper legal/medical authority as to what measures should be taken. It needs to be shown that the dog was up to date on rabies vaccination. We're talking about the life of a human possibly being threatened by an infection that if not treated early will lead to death. If the dog cannot be located, a doctor may deem it necessary for the bitten person to begin treatment for rabies, which I understand is quite painful. The biting dog owner should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Number 10 GI
02-19-2022, 10:33 AM
If you look at the picture of the dog, you can see he is wearing a rabies tag..
Is it up to date? Neither of us know so it needs to be verified. In no way does that excuse the illegal act by the dog owner to flee the scene.
rrtjp
02-19-2022, 10:35 AM
Nobody on this site knows what really happened. Another scenario, what if the “victims” dog and grandpa’s dog where fighting and the “victim” got bit trying to break up the dogs? Hell maybe he got bit by his own dog in the process?
Point……….we will never know what really happened.
As usual I have spent way too much time on TOTV. Off for a walk in paradise. Hope everyone has a blessed day.
Toymeister
02-19-2022, 10:41 AM
I have contacted the OP with the name and address of what I believe is the perp's get away driver. Let's hope he returns to this thread with an update.
My confidence level of this ID is at 90%.
Absolutely everything that any of you needed to do this was contained in the OP's original post.
DonnaNi4os
02-19-2022, 10:51 AM
I am sorry that happened to you. Please go for a tetanus shot. Yes, they will ask for the dog that bit you’d owner. That dog needs to be quarantined. Seriously, get a tetanus shot.
Petersweeney
02-19-2022, 10:52 AM
Facial recognition via the police might identify the guy
Wow are we there yet? Call the CCP…..they have the meats….
Laurawilcox
02-19-2022, 11:00 AM
We are in the process of moving to The Villages, in Colorado, where we are now it is a two incident rule. Then the dog is put down.
This is from Florida and has some interesting information.
Florida Dog Bite Laws | Owner Liability | Gordon & Partners (https://www.fortheinjured.com/west-palm-beach/dog-bite-lawyers/florida-laws/)
Halbraun
02-19-2022, 11:01 AM
Is it up to date? Neither of us know so it needs to be verified. In no way does that excuse the illegal act by the dog owner to flee the scene.
Nor did I imply that it was.. but past vaccinations are a pretty good indicator.
Not trying to excuse anyone either.. but people already talking lawyers and lynch mobs.. jeez. No wonder grandpa bailed
Bill14564
02-19-2022, 11:02 AM
If you look at the picture of the dog, you can see he is wearing a rabies tag..
Which picture are you looking at and which shiny thing are you assuming is a rabies tag? And, as Number 10 GI mentioned, can you read the date to see that it is current? Either my display or my eyes are too old to make all that out. Skipping a consultation with a doctor and possible treatment for rabies exposure could be deadly - I wouldn't want to take that chance based on a "maybe."
chrisinva
02-19-2022, 11:04 AM
So sorry this happened to you. Definitely go to doc. I was bit by a neighbor's dog years ago. It was an older dog, bit my thigh leaving a large bruise & some blood. And this was a bite through my jeans. Went immediately to ER, got tetanus (?) shot & cleaned up, no stitches needed. Neighbor very apologetic. Someone reported it to police, maybe the ER, and police visited neighbor; quarantined the dog. Everything turned out OK but it was a very distressing event. I'm a dog lover & to be attacked by one was unsettling. Hope your recovery, physical & mental, goes smoothly.
birdawg
02-19-2022, 11:07 AM
Nor did I imply that it was.. but past vaccinations are a pretty good indicator.
Not trying to excuse anyone either.. but people already talking lawyers and lynch mobs.. jeez. No wonder grandpa bailedwould you bet your life on the fact that he maybe vaccinated
Halbraun
02-19-2022, 11:10 AM
would you bet your life on the fact that he maybe vaccinated
Yup..no problem if I had seen the dog that bit me…. Been there, done that.
Kahuna32162
02-19-2022, 11:32 AM
I go to that area every day with our dog and will certainly keep an eye out for that cart.
Bonnevie
02-19-2022, 11:41 AM
You MUST see a doctor immediately. go to an urgent care. my dog accidentally bit me when I got between him and a treat. it wasn't that bad a bite but was told it's important to get on an antibiotic. in this case if you can't find any information about the dog you may need to have rabies treatment. also, is your tetanus up to date?
Linda Taranto
02-19-2022, 11:54 AM
And he's wearing a shirt that says "Grandpa"! I hope none of his grandchildren see this kind of behavior!
Seasonal
02-19-2022, 12:13 PM
Once "Grandpa" is identified, and he will be. I hope someone posts his name so that his children and grandchildren, with the help of Google, find out what a true standup guy Grandpa is, along with his get-away driving buddy, Jack. I feel sorry for Janice.
Next Christmas Grandpa can share his lovely story. Grandpa, tell me the story about when your dog bit someone and while the victim was bleeding, you didn't show any concern about them and ran like the coward that you are with Uncle Jack at the wheel. Nice example Grandpa, it's all about you.
BostonRich
02-19-2022, 12:27 PM
I did go for medical evaluation because my hand was bleeding and oozing fluid and of course it is very painful. They treated my wounds and I am now on antibiotics. I need to keep ice on it also. I was told that if it gets worse and shows any changes to go immediately to the hospital ER.
Since I have no information on the dog we don't know anything about it's vaccination status. There is a red tag on the dog but it looks very old and the shape may indicate the owner's residence. It really would have been a responsible gesture to simply provide me this information instead of running away unless of course the dog is not properly vaccinated.
By the way, medical clinics are legally required to notify the authorities about any dog bites and they submitted a detailed report. I should be hearing from them shortly. I have received information from people on this board as to who the people involved may be and that will be part of the report.
I do want to say that it is not my intention to hurt the dog . . . period. Owners of problematic dogs know they are problematic and should act accordingly. That dog was not properly socialized and should not have been in the dog park.
Thank you all for your help, support and kind messages. I appreciate it.
P.S. Yes I did get a tetanus shot two years ago.
RUCdaze
02-19-2022, 12:38 PM
I believe I have seen him - I recognize the shirt. I live in Mallory. Where in Mallory is there a dog park?
Number 10 GI
02-19-2022, 12:59 PM
Yup..no problem if I had seen the dog that bit me…. Been there, done that.
I'm not foolish enough to bet my life on it!
Cards fan
02-19-2022, 01:00 PM
[QUOTE=BostonRich;2062916]This morning around 11 AM my dog and I were attacked at the Mulberry Dog Park by the dog in the picture below. The dog bit my hand and broke the skin in five places.
The cowardly owner just walked out of the park to a golf cart that was driven by another man. The owner and equally nasty friend tried to drive off without giving me any information about the dog or himself. However they were photo captured by witnesses. The cart is a Grayish Yellow (NYS4) Yamaha with the names Janice and Jack on the front.
If anyone can please provide me with any additional information on these two men it would be appreciated. I am told that if I need medical attention I will need to file a police report and they will want the owners information.
You can Private Message me through the TOV site.contact The Villages. They can probably find the person by their names. Also in desperation I would look through the phone book for those names.
DARFAP
02-19-2022, 01:04 PM
Post these photos at the park in a "Wanted" fashion.
Kahuna32162
02-19-2022, 01:30 PM
I did go for medical evaluation because my hand was bleeding and oozing fluid and of course it is very painful. They treated my wounds and I am now on antibiotics. I need to keep ice on it also. I was told that if it gets worse and shows any changes to go immediately to the hospital ER.
Since I have no information on the dog we don't know anything about it's vaccination status. There is a red tag on the dog but it looks very old and the shape may indicate the owner's residence. It really would have been a responsible gesture to simply provide me this information instead of running away unless of course the dog is not properly vaccinated.
By the way, medical clinics are legally required to notify the authorities about any dog bites and they submitted a detailed report. I should be hearing from them shortly. I have received information from people on this board as to who the people involved may be and that will be part of the report.
I do want to say that it is not my intention to hurt the dog . . . period. Owners of problematic dogs know they are problematic and should act accordingly. That dog was not properly socialized and should not have been in the dog park.
Thank you all for your help, support and kind messages. I appreciate it.
P.S. Yes I did get a tetanus shot two years ago.
Thanks for the follow up info. Take care of your hand, I'm pretty sure all the sleuths here will be able to find this guy.
Tvflguy
02-19-2022, 02:25 PM
I may have missed this along the way of all the responses, and hers. How did she get bitten? Did she try to pet the dog or did it attack her or whatever? Not that this is substanative but would be good to know....
JaNay Newton
02-19-2022, 02:33 PM
This morning around 11 AM my dog and I were attacked at the Mulberry Dog Park by the dog in the picture below. The dog bit my hand and broke the skin in five places.
The cowardly owner just walked out of the park to a golf cart that was driven by another man. The owner and equally nasty friend tried to drive off without giving me any information about the dog or himself. However they were photo captured by witnesses. The cart is a Grayish Yellow (NYS4) Yamaha with the names Janice and Jack on the front.
If anyone can please provide me with any additional information on these two men it would be appreciated. I am told that if I need medical attention I will need to file a police report and they will want the owners information.
You can Private Message me through the TOV site.
Thank you.
You need to make a police report and go to Urgent Care for a Tetanus shot. ASAP, this is what your Doctor will tell you. Especially because you know nothing about the dog. This guy is an irresponsible pet owner and should be barred from owning pets. Gee, if we could only do that!!
Keep it clean!!!
MrFlorida
02-19-2022, 02:46 PM
This is just one more reason we need to have registration plates on all golf carts to
identify these slugs when they try to run from the scene. Low or no cost should work.
Too many carts owned/operated by too many jerks!!
No need to punish all the law abiding people because of a few a holes....
Jeffery M
02-19-2022, 03:23 PM
You should immediately report this to the county Animal Control office, and the county Sheriff's office. This dog may have a history of biting and is a menace. Regardless if the dog has a prior history it bit you, so it has a history of biting now. The Sheriff's office can use your photos to try and find the owner of the dog. He is liable for the dog biting you and legal action can be taken against the owner. He broke the law by taking off and not providing identification information. You have a very good lawsuit case here.
jimjamuser
02-19-2022, 03:26 PM
May want to ask the Villages Radio if they would be willing to report something? Not sure of the legality of it, but it may be worth asking.
It is news, so the radio should be interested in it. But, sometimes the need to whitewash our perfect bubble world takes precedence over news.
jebartle
02-19-2022, 03:26 PM
Wow, where is my popcorn! Where is the Village Villan! What's the latest, we are on pins and needles?????
msilagy
02-19-2022, 03:33 PM
This is a lawsuit - hope you find the coward and make him pay....sue just for the fact that he had no regard for you!
jimjamuser
02-19-2022, 03:36 PM
One of the reasons I never take our dogs to a dog park or go to one
I assume that a dog could be safely taken to a dog park with a muzzle on them. That would be prudent.
Spalumbos62
02-19-2022, 03:37 PM
I do believe the village directory list both names of owners, it would be allot of reading, but you may find them via that.
I am glad you saw a Dr, I hope you heal nicely with no complications and, well not for anything, many people have unsocialized dogs, they can be rehabilitated, it's not the dog's fault his clueless owner didn't take him out and about as a pup, which btw he did look to be quite young. I am very happy to read you don't seem to be upset with the dog...but you have every right to be upset with the guy...who has probably spent the last 24hrs waiting for a knock at the door.
Not a good situation for anyone involved...best of luck.
RedWingNut
02-19-2022, 03:52 PM
There should be a group watch at that dog park, pictures posted wherever possible of this guy, group watch of the surrounding neighborhood for the cart, all town squares and shopping centers should be watched. Sooner or later this guy will pop out into the open, let’s hope he’s caught and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law
jimjamuser
02-19-2022, 04:07 PM
I agree. There is very little maintenance that takes place other than grass cutting and refilling the bags in the canister.
Dealing with each individual Rec center is not ideal so I was hoping there was another option for raising concerns.
There was a man that took his dog (not this lab) to the human exercise machines and trail in the historic area. His dog seemed(?) to be under his control. But, I saw 2 things wrong with the situation. #! only about 1 block away was a dog park. #2 he allowed the dog to run free often - he would throw frisbees for the dog. #3 many people walked or jogged on that trail while he sat on a bench there with the dog when he wasn't throwing the frisbees. Dogs often get excited around running people since they are natural hunters, they react to motion.
.........Also at the same area of the historic side, I watched a lady walk by and it looked like she was being walked by the dog, not the other way around. She had one of those 30ft reels on the dog (which was a smallish mixed black lab). She was obviously NOT the animal in control. The dog jumped on a man walking on the running path in the opposite direction. Not sure if the man was bitten. The woman tried to real the dog in - with difficulty. She seemed upset at the man and did NOT apologize to him. He said something to the effect of "what the HELL are you doing".
. Both of those things happened before the pandemic. So it is like ancient history. But, the point is that there are a lot of TV Landers that own dogs and are strangely reckless. So, I would assume that many dogs do NOT have current shots. So, "caveat canine emptor" in TV Land.
triflex
02-19-2022, 05:09 PM
A lot of dog owners take a peculiar pride in their dog's willingness to defend against strangers. I don't think most of them are unaware they have an aggressive animal. It is a strange form of passive-aggressive behavior by the human.
I saw a bumper sticker today by the pickle ball courts that said: "If my dog doesn't like you I probably won't either." In other words, it is your problem if my dog takes a disliking to you and bites you.
Worldseries27
02-19-2022, 05:32 PM
this morning around 11 am my dog and i were attacked at the mulberry dog park by the dog in the picture below. The dog bit my hand and broke the skin in five places.
The cowardly owner just walked out of the park to a golf cart that was driven by another man. The owner and equally nasty friend tried to drive off without giving me any information about the dog or himself. However they were photo captured by witnesses. The cart is a grayish yellow (nys4) yamaha with the names janice and jack on the front.
If anyone can please provide me with any additional information on these two men it would be appreciated. I am told that if i need medical attention i will need to file a police report and they will want the owners information.
You can private message me through the tov site.
Thank you.
obviously bonnie and clyde aided and abetted the getaway. You pay taxes.
Call 911 and your insurance company whom i'm sure will look into the liability issues of all involved
Toymeister
02-19-2022, 05:44 PM
Wow, where is my popcorn! Where is the Village Villan! What's the latest, we are on pins and needles?????
He was fairly close to the park, an easy cart ride. People are foolish if they think that they can't be found out with virtually any information. I think it took me less than fourteen minutes to locate him.
Topspinmo
02-19-2022, 05:58 PM
I have contacted the OP with the name and address of what I believe is the perp's get away driver. Let's hope he returns to this thread with an update.
My confidence level of this ID is at 90%.
Absolutely everything that any of you needed to do this was contained in the OP's original post.
Didn’t you move from villages?
Laker14
02-19-2022, 06:53 PM
I see a new Netflix series on the horizon. "Toymeister, Bounty Hunter." "You can run, but you cannot hide."
Stu from NYC
02-19-2022, 07:07 PM
He was fairly close to the park, an easy cart ride. People are foolish if they think that they can't be found out with virtually any information. I think it took me less than fourteen minutes to locate him.
Good for you
Gpsma
02-19-2022, 07:31 PM
The OP finally replied.
Didnt quite say how the bite happened. Did the dog leap up and bite him?
Or was he defending his little fur baby and put his hand between two dogs and got bit.
I call BS on this whole story.
They left becuase the OP got between two mongrels.
His fault.
Mrprez
02-19-2022, 07:39 PM
The OP finally replied.
Didnt quite say how the bite happened. Did the dog leap up and bite him?
Or was he defending his little fur baby and put his hand between two dogs and got bit.
I call BS on this whole story.
They left becuase the OP got between two mongrels.
His fault.
Where did you get your crystal ball? I do agree there are some facts missing in this story, but I don’t agree with jumping to conclusions.
tophcfa
02-19-2022, 08:05 PM
He has been definitively identified as a douchebag.
Bill14564
02-19-2022, 08:16 PM
The OP finally replied.
Didnt quite say how the bite happened. Did the dog leap up and bite him?
Or was he defending his little fur baby and put his hand between two dogs and got bit.
I call BS on this whole story.
They left becuase the OP got between two mongrels.
His fault.
Completely misses the point. Whine about whose fault it is later. Today, right now, the OP needs to know the vaccination status of the dog. Learning that would be far easier had the owner stuck around to share information. Since the owner did not, they are asking for help finding him.
Bambi
02-19-2022, 08:43 PM
I hope he continues with his medical care. I spent a week in the hospital and a total of six weeks with a PICC line and antibiotics due to bacteria in a dog’s saliva. Please do not treat dog bites at home, especially with home remedies like vasoline.
My father was the physician for the staff at the Detroit zoo and had plenty of stories of infected animal bites. Animals carry some uncommon bacteria.
Toymeister
02-19-2022, 09:21 PM
Didn’t you move from villages?
I was in Afghanistan, if that's what you mean. I left during the COVID hysteria.
The amenities sucked. Not a damn golf course in sight and no pools at Bagram. They let all sort of people in there, it wasn't a 55+ community. But it was an exclusive gated community.
I like it better here, warts and all
PennyAnn
02-19-2022, 09:33 PM
There is a Jack and Janice on Sun Valley in Ashleigh Villas in Calumet Grove. No idea, but worth a try…. Good luck.
By the way - any idea of the dog’s name?
Aces4
02-19-2022, 09:35 PM
The OP finally replied.
Didnt quite say how the bite happened. Did the dog leap up and bite him?
Or was he defending his little fur baby and put his hand between two dogs and got bit.
I call BS on this whole story.
They left becuase the OP got between two mongrels.
His fault.
Bottom line is the dog bit this man. It doesn’t matter if he was protecting a little dog, a child or older person, the dog bites and was aggressive. The owner quickly packed up the dog and left, that is WRONG! End of story.
fdpaq0580
02-19-2022, 10:22 PM
Bottom line is the dog bit this man. It doesn’t matter if he was protecting a little dog, a child or older person, the dog bites and was aggressive. The owner quickly packed up the dog and left, that is WRONG! End of story.
Agree with you except for, "End of story".
Believe it is only the end of the prologue. More to come, I'm sure.
😒
Janet1946
02-20-2022, 01:06 AM
I was bitten on my arm by a small yorkie about 3 weeks ago. (Not in TV). Very painful. Went to urgent care, got a tetanus shot, wound cleaned, oral antibiotics. And filled out a police report. The dog owner is my neighbor and was very helpful in getting rabies records etc. she has also been bringing over desserts every night— I’m sure she’s afraid I’ll sue. Which I won’t. But I feel so very bad for the yorkie who is very aggressive and has never been socialized. My neighbor had already bought him a muzzle (which means she knew he would do something like this.) Life will probably not end well for this yorkie and that is tragic imho….even though my arm still hurts like h***.
Mosells
02-20-2022, 06:55 AM
Have you hung him yet?
Catalina36
02-20-2022, 06:56 AM
This morning around 11 AM my dog and I were attacked at the Mulberry Dog Park by the dog in the picture below. The dog bit my hand and broke the skin in five places.
The cowardly owner just walked out of the park to a golf cart that was driven by another man. The owner and equally nasty friend tried to drive off without giving me any information about the dog or himself. However they were photo captured by witnesses. The cart is a Grayish Yellow (NYS4) Yamaha with the names Janice and Jack on the front.
If anyone can please provide me with any additional information on these two men it would be appreciated. I am told that if I need medical attention I will need to file a police report and they will want the owners information.
You can Private Message me through the TOV site.
Thank you.
The owner of the Dog should be arrested and charged with leaving the scene of a dog attack. His dog should be put down. He should be banned from The Villages.
DaleDivine
02-20-2022, 07:25 AM
A lot of dog owners take a peculiar pride in their dog's willingness to defend against strangers. I don't think most of them are unaware they have an aggressive animal. It is a strange form of passive-aggressive behavior by the human.
I saw a bumper sticker today by the pickle ball courts that said: "If my dog doesn't like you I probably won't either." In other words, it is your problem if my dog takes a disliking to you and bites you.
We have that plaque in our home when you first walk in.
:coolsmiley::coolsmiley:
Bdglocke
02-20-2022, 07:26 AM
This morning around 11 AM my dog and I were attacked at the Mulberry Dog Park by the dog in the picture below. The dog bit my hand and broke the skin in five places.
The cowardly owner just walked out of the park to a golf cart that was driven by another man. The owner and equally nasty friend tried to drive off without giving me any information about the dog or himself. However they were photo captured by witnesses. The cart is a Grayish Yellow (NYS4) Yamaha with the names Janice and Jack on the front.
If anyone can please provide me with any additional information on these two men it would be appreciated. I am told that if I need medical attention I will need to file a police report and they will want the owners information.
You can Private Message me through the TOV site.
Thank you.
You want to find your friend, do a Google search. You can find homes in The Villages where a Jack and Janice both reside. Google - Jack and Janice The villages Florida. Try it first with your names and you will see how easy this works. Provide your findings to law enforcement and they will do the follow up.
Sometimes you need to be your own detective 🙂
Kahiland
02-20-2022, 07:39 AM
Who told to you that you will need to file a police report? If it was a doctor's office, that is one thing. If it were me I would make the doctor tell me "no". One option is to try an Urgent Care TODAY.
Chances are very good the dog has had his rabies shot. Most villagers are very good about their pet's health. But if you can't find this fool, you will need a series if rabies shots. I am not a doctor, but we lived in a suburb of Savannah, GA, in 2006, when a pit bull mix attacked our Beagle, Montego, while we were on our daily walk. It was a horrifying experience. Fortunately the owner took his dog to the same vet as us and the dog was up to date on his rabies shot. We were very fortunate in that the man who owned the dog paid ALL of the vet bills. Montego came out of this with alot of stitches, a cone and a dislike for big dogs, but otherwise she was fine.
It tell this story b/c you really need to go to a doctor. Even if you find out the dog is up to date on his or her rabies shot, you will probably need a tetnus shot if you haven't had one in 10 years (I believe that is the magic number). The wound will also need to be cleaned or you could get a nasty infection.
With all of this said, the pictures are great. Hopefully someone will recognize the coward. You may want to go to a couple of vets offices. They may recognize the fool and his dog. Good luck!!!!
Mlogan22@tampabay.rr.com
02-20-2022, 08:18 AM
There’s a whole lot to the story that’s missing. I’m calling BS.
agjaret@aol.com
02-20-2022, 08:36 AM
Why did the dog bite you. Seems severe.
rrtjp
02-20-2022, 08:39 AM
I agree. Too much of the story is missing. You got to love the guy who drove around looking for the getaway drivers golf cart. He is 90% sure he found the scoundrel, lol.
Rooklift
02-20-2022, 09:12 AM
You are way off. The person left the scene without giving his contact information.
fdpaq0580
02-20-2022, 09:34 AM
Why did the dog bite you. Seems severe.
Hard to tell from photo. I was bitten by a black lab that got out of his invisible fence and came exploring. (Happened in Wa st.). I was working in the yard and had a rope in my hand. When Max saw the rope he got excited and wanted to play tug-of-war. Caught me by surprise and bit my hand pretty well. Lots of blood and torn skin. Called Max's owner and when she saw my bloody hand she was shocked that her sweet Max could do something like that. Told her don't worry worry. Max is just young and overly friendly and could someone even if he is just playing, so if she is going to let him out in the yard be watching him very closely to be sure he doesn't get out again. Max brought me some homemade cookies as an apology later. Max bakes great cookies and we became friends.
Moral of my experience is even nice dogs can hurt people. Owners need to be always aware of where their dog is and what they are doing and be prepared for when/if the unthinkable finally happens.
Bogie Shooter
02-20-2022, 10:38 AM
Who told to you that you will need to file a police report? If it was a doctor's office, that is one thing. If it were me I would make the doctor tell me "no". One option is to try an Urgent Care TODAY.
Chances are very good the dog has had his rabies shot. Most villagers are very good about their pet's health. But if you can't find this fool, you will need a series if rabies shots. I am not a doctor, but we lived in a suburb of Savannah, GA, in 2006, when a pit bull mix attacked our Beagle, Montego, while we were on our daily walk. It was a horrifying experience. Fortunately the owner took his dog to the same vet as us and the dog was up to date on his rabies shot. We were very fortunate in that the man who owned the dog paid ALL of the vet bills. Montego came out of this with alot of stitches, a cone and a dislike for big dogs, but otherwise she was fine.
It tell this story b/c you really need to go to a doctor. Even if you find out the dog is up to date on his or her rabies shot, you will probably need a tetnus shot if you haven't had one in 10 years (I believe that is the magic number). The wound will also need to be cleaned or you could get a nasty infection.
With all of this said, the pictures are great. Hopefully someone will recognize the coward. You may want to go to a couple of vets offices. They may recognize the fool and his dog. Good luck!!!!
Most times it helps to read all the posts, before, posting…….
Take a look at #103.
Cdwright56!
02-20-2022, 10:42 AM
What a terrible experience for you. I hope you find this guy. I can’t stand people who don’t take responsibility for their pets.
frose
02-20-2022, 11:33 AM
the owner should be euthanized the dog is just being a dog.
4Paws4Me
02-20-2022, 11:41 AM
Facial recognition via the police might identify the guy
Facial recognition.....lol. You have got to be kidding me....lol. :1rotfl:. Now thats funny, for a small dog bit. Would that be for the irresponsible owner who left the scene? Yes, the owner is irresponsible and did a reprehensible thing.
Why not Facial recognition for the dog? Heck lets get the FBI, CIA, DEA, ATF, Secret Service, local PD, State PD involved in this.
No! I got it.......call in McGruff the crime fighting dog.
Laker14
02-20-2022, 11:41 AM
There’s a whole lot to the story that’s missing. I’m calling BS.
besides the facts that: 1. Man's dog bites stranger
2. Man leaves scene without providing any contact information for bitten man to ascertain if dog has had rabies vaccine
3. Bitten man would like to find owner of biting dog to ascertain status of vaccinations and possibly insurance information
What more of the story do you need? The pictures were taken by witnesses.
What more do you need before you determine this isn't BS?
Roron123
02-20-2022, 11:53 AM
I agree 100% need to hear both sides of this story!
4Paws4Me
02-20-2022, 11:55 AM
There’s a whole lot to the story that’s missing. I’m calling BS.
You are exactly right. The OP isn't giving the whole story. Big difference between being "Attacked" and being "bitten". That in no way excuses the irresponsible behavior of the dog owner to leave without helping.
As a betting man, solely based on the location of the bit, He was bitten when he tried to break up a dog fight without knowing the proper way. Yes, there is a proper way to break up a dog fight. If he stuck his hand in-between two fighting dogs he lucky he walked away with one bit. All of you who think you have a precious little dog who would never bit anyone, just stick your hand between fluffy and another dog fighting. Fluffy will bit you in a second.
Dogs don't like every dog they come in contact with. They don't have to and it's ok! Just like us. We don't like everyone we come into contact with.
Velvet
02-20-2022, 11:59 AM
I agree. Too much of the story is missing. You got to love the guy who drove around looking for the getaway drivers golf cart. He is 90% sure he found the scoundrel, lol.
Yes, and I’m willing to bet that he did too.
Laker14
02-20-2022, 12:09 PM
For those of you who insist we "need to hear both sides of the story", that would be nice. However, since the biter's owner left the scene, why are we giving him the benefit of the doubt?
The circumstances of the bite are immaterial. What is material here is that the owner of the biting dog took his dog, and LEFT THE SCENE without providing contact information or vaccination information. That is all that really matters here.
If anything, it leads me to believe that the owner of the biting dog doesn't want "both sides of the story" to be told. I he did, he wouldn't have fled.
Geodyssey
02-20-2022, 12:22 PM
The OP finally replied.
Didnt quite say how the bite happened. Did the dog leap up and bite him?
Or was he defending his little fur baby and put his hand between two dogs and got bit.
I call BS on this whole story.
They left becuase the OP got between two mongrels.
His fault.
We need HALAL now!
What do you mean by "we need halal now"? Just curious, not surprised.
Geodyssey
02-20-2022, 12:26 PM
I agree. Too much of the story is missing. You got to love the guy who drove around looking for the getaway drivers golf cart. He is 90% sure he found the scoundrel, lol.
"lol" means "laughing out loud"
You're laughing about an injury. Karma soon.
Two Bills
02-20-2022, 01:10 PM
You are exactly right. The OP isn't giving the whole story. Big difference between being "Attacked" and being "bitten". That in no way excuses the irresponsible behavior of the dog owner to leave without helping.
As a betting man, solely based on the location of the bit, He was bitten when he tried to break up a dog fight without knowing the proper way. Yes, there is a proper way to break up a dog fight. If he stuck his hand in-between two fighting dogs he lucky he walked away with one bit. All of you who think you have a precious little dog who would never bit anyone, just stick your hand between fluffy and another dog fighting. Fluffy will bit you in a second.
Dogs don't like every dog they come in contact with. They don't have to and it's ok! Just like us. We don't like everyone we come into contact with.
That's a 'bit' much!:icon_wink:
Stu from NYC
02-20-2022, 01:18 PM
Facial recognition.....lol. You have got to be kidding me....lol. :1rotfl:. Now thats funny, for a small dog bit. Would that be for the irresponsible owner who left the scene? Yes, the owner is irresponsible and did a reprehensible thing.
Why not Facial recognition for the dog? Heck lets get the FBI, CIA, DEA, ATF, Secret Service, local PD, State PD involved in this.
No! I got it.......call in McGruff the crime fighting dog.
If it was you would you call it a small bite? The guy should be caught and punished and see nothing wrong with identifying the guy via facial recognition.
Seasonal
02-20-2022, 01:27 PM
How great would it be if someone developed a dog fecal recognition gun. See some dog dodo, point your handy fecal recognition gun at it, and the lazy owners name comes up and can be published here with a picture of the dodo. Sales of a fecal recognition gun would be crazy in TV. :doggie::1rotfl:
frank1975
02-20-2022, 02:00 PM
Based on the info you gave it should be easy to track down this scumbag down. Post this wherever you can. Make copies of these photos and post everywhere. Including around all the dog parks. He may stop going to Mulberry dog park for a while and go else where. GOOD LUCK!!!
rrtjp
02-20-2022, 03:03 PM
No
I’m “lol” at Columbo who tracked down the getaway vehicle.
TNLAKEPANDA
02-20-2022, 03:16 PM
This morning around 11 AM my dog and I were attacked at the Mulberry Dog Park by the dog in the picture below. The dog bit my hand and broke the skin in five places.
The cowardly owner just walked out of the park to a golf cart that was driven by another man. The owner and equally nasty friend tried to drive off without giving me any information about the dog or himself. However they were photo captured by witnesses. The cart is a Grayish Yellow (NYS4) Yamaha with the names Janice and Jack on the front.
If anyone can please provide me with any additional information on these two men it would be appreciated. I am told that if I need medical attention I will need to file a police report and they will want the owners information.
You can Private Message me through the TOV site.
Thank you.
I would press charges. There is NO excuse that. I am sure someone will see the cart and photos and identity him. Keep the post going!
Debfrommaine
02-20-2022, 03:17 PM
You are exactly right. The OP isn't giving the whole story. Big difference between being "Attacked" and being "bitten". That in no way excuses the irresponsible behavior of the dog owner to leave without helping.
As a betting man, solely based on the location of the bit, He was bitten when he tried to break up a dog fight without knowing the proper way. Yes, there is a proper way to break up a dog fight. If he stuck his hand in-between two fighting dogs he lucky he walked away with one bit. All of you who think you have a precious little dog who would never bit anyone, just stick your hand between fluffy and another dog fighting. Fluffy will bit you in a second.
Dogs don't like every dog they come in contact with. They don't have to and it's ok! Just like us. We don't like everyone we come into contact with.:bigbow::bigbow:
rrtjp
02-20-2022, 03:18 PM
Here’s a question for ya.
Why would anyone think it would be a good idea to go to a dog park and let their dog run around with a bunch of other dogs that they know nothing about?
I got $50 that says there are signs posted at these parks warning to use at your own risk.
Bilyclub
02-20-2022, 03:26 PM
Looks like the authorities have a deleted some posts in this thread. I was trying to respond to the post by the newbie and the post disappeared. I wish I would have copied it.
ithos
02-20-2022, 03:44 PM
I find it hard to believe that there are posts that are defending a person who refused to provide any information after his dog inflicted a bite on a stranger and then fled the scene when confronted.
767.04 Dog owner’s liability for damages to persons bitten.—The owner of any dog that bites any person while such person is on or in a public place, or lawfully on or in a private place, including the property of the owner of the dog, is liable for damages suffered by persons bitten, regardless of the former viciousness of the dog or the owners’ knowledge of such viciousness.
My question to those who sympathies lie with "grandpa", would you also have left the park without providing any information in a similar incident? If so what would be your rationalization for it? Are you required by law to reveal personal information?
Bogie Shooter
02-20-2022, 04:19 PM
Based on the info you gave it should be easy to track down this scumbag down. Post this wherever you can. Make copies of these photos and post everywhere. Including around all the dog parks. He may stop going to Mulberry dog park for a while and go else where. GOOD LUCK!!!
Yes, you do see a lot of signs posted everywhere. There are rules about garage sale signs, so wanted posters will be allowed. NOT!
rrtjp
02-20-2022, 04:20 PM
So Grandpa is guilty, no need to hear his side of the story of what happened. Some of you here are satisfied that the OP is the good guy he would never lie about what happened and grandpa is the bad guy. You know this with 100% certainty without witnessing the incident? Maybe grandpa offered to give the OP his info but the OP became threatening and angry and grandpa got scared and just left. I don’t know this because Just like everyone else here I wasn’t there!
rrtjp
02-20-2022, 04:26 PM
Again I have wasted too much time on this site. “Not my circus, not my monkeys “
Have a great day everyone.
I’m out.
OP take care, you too grandpa.
Velvet
02-20-2022, 04:26 PM
So Grandpa is guilty, no need to hear his side of the story of what happened. Some of you here are satisfied that the OP is the good guy he would never lie about what happened and grandpa is the bad guy. You know this with 100% certainty without witnessing the incident? Maybe grandpa offered to give the OP his info but the OP became threatening and angry and grandpa got scared and just left. I don’t know this because Just like everyone else here I wasn’t there!
If he was at the dog park, my guess would be that “grandpa” was talking to other people and not paying attention to what his dog was doing. So he probably did not see anything.
golfing eagles
02-20-2022, 06:34 PM
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Aces4
02-20-2022, 06:55 PM
More hate from you. Would you refer to the Pope as the Grand Poohbah of Catholics? Sure, you are just quoting some movie line. You consistently make hateful comments about people who are not just like you, but of course not as smart or as great at golf.
The fact that you apparently had to look up the meaning of Halal shows you are not nearly as well educated as you claim to be. It is a very well known term by people who don't live in their own personal ethnic bubble.
It certainly suggests that you were unable as a physician to properly care for any Muslim patients who presented to your office.
Why in the world would you oppose the availability of Halal food for those who want it, unless you wish to oppress those who wish to follow a Halal diet? Islamophobia? Religious bigotry? Pick your term, but decent human is not an option.
Whether I agree or disagree with your statements, personal attacks against posters are not permitted per the rules of this forum.
Laker14
02-20-2022, 06:56 PM
So Grandpa is guilty, no need to hear his side of the story of what happened. Some of you here are satisfied that the OP is the good guy he would never lie about what happened and grandpa is the bad guy. You know this with 100% certainty without witnessing the incident? Maybe grandpa offered to give the OP his info but the OP became threatening and angry and grandpa got scared and just left. I don’t know this because Just like everyone else here I wasn’t there!
why don't you just make up your own story? All we know is that the owner of the biter left without giving any information. That's all we know.
That's illegal.
Everything else is your imagination running wild. Why would you even suggest that?
If, somehow, the story you made up were accurate, then it would still be the owner of the biting's dog responsibility to notify the police. Doesn't seem like that happened, does it?
He could notify the police and say "I left because I felt threatened." Evidently that did not happen. Otherwise OP wouldn't be asking for help finding the guy.
Dennys37Packard
02-20-2022, 07:16 PM
Whoever took these pictures, another guy (standing) in the 3rd picture was having a conversation with the dog owner. There’s more here than meets the eye. What did the owner tell that guy?
He was the victim. You can see the blood running down his hand.
blueash
02-20-2022, 08:39 PM
Whether I agree or disagree with your statements, personal attacks against posters are not permitted per the rules of this forum.
Yes, I know, and if/when I hear from the moderators I will take whatever punishment I receive. But I will not ignore bigotry, racism, .... It is worth the time out if readers are given the opportunity to reflect on the awful things that get posted by some here. Or if such posters at least pause before again posting such hateful malicious opinions
Laker14
02-20-2022, 08:42 PM
Yes, I know, and if/when I hear from the moderators I will take whatever punishment I receive. But I will not ignore bigotry, racism, .... It is worth the time out if readers are given the opportunity to reflect on the awful things that get posted by some here. Or if such posters at least pause before again posting such hateful malicious opinions
Well said, and well done.
Boomer
02-20-2022, 09:30 PM
I looked it up---it is the Muslim equivalent of the Jewish "kosher"-----To be certified "Halal", the food has to be inspected by the Grand Poohbah or whatever. Bottom line---we need Halal NOT NOW, NOT EVER.
wow….shudder….making my skin crawl
Appalled Boomer
davem4616
02-20-2022, 09:33 PM
all BS aside....I hope you are able to identify him ...and are able to hold him accountable, but if your injury is minor, I wouldn't spend a lot of $$$$ trying to track the SOB down
golfing eagles
02-20-2022, 09:41 PM
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golfing eagles
02-20-2022, 09:43 PM
Well said, and well done.
Not really.
JMintzer
02-20-2022, 09:46 PM
A lot of dog owners take a peculiar pride in their dog's willingness to defend against strangers. I don't think most of them are unaware they have an aggressive animal. It is a strange form of passive-aggressive behavior by the human.
I saw a bumper sticker today by the pickle ball courts that said: "If my dog doesn't like you I probably won't either." In other words, it is your problem if my dog takes a disliking to you and bites you.
Yes, biting you was exactly what they were thinking... :ohdear:
JMintzer
02-20-2022, 09:50 PM
We have that plaque in our home when you first walk in.
:coolsmiley::coolsmiley:
Why do you want your dog to bite people??? [/sarcasm]
Laker14
02-20-2022, 09:58 PM
How about you try living with the loss of 2 good friends and a 1st cousin on 9/11????? I wish I was as "enlightened" and as "liberal" as you, but alas, I don't happen to care for anything that reminds me of that day. And you can call me any name you want and I don't care that I didn't know what "halal" is, and I will never care what it is.
But you are right about one thing----after 9/11, I would never take care of a "muslim" patient----not out of hate, but because I couldn't trust myself.
you are entitled to your feelings. this isn't the place to express them.
Laker14
02-20-2022, 09:58 PM
it was well said, and well done.
You were out of line expressing your hatred on this thread.
Whatever your reasons for feeling justified for your racism, it doesn't belong here.
JMintzer
02-20-2022, 10:08 PM
you are entitled to your feelings. this isn't the place to express them.
But the person he was responding to can?
Laker14
02-20-2022, 10:11 PM
But the person he was responding to can?
Yes. He was addressing a post expressing racism and hatred. Very appropriate to make a statement against that, no matter how "in vogue" it has become.
Laker14
02-20-2022, 10:13 PM
With my last comment I'll step away form further conversation about the racist post.
golfing eagles
02-20-2022, 11:02 PM
it was well said, and well done.
You were out of line expressing your hatred on this thread.
Whatever your reasons for feeling justified for your racism, it doesn't belong here.
I agree, I lost it.
But if you want a reason, try 2,996 dead on 9/11 including 2 good friends and my 1st cousin
It is not "racism" to remember
However, I would like to apologize to the forum for my outburst, well, all except 1
Gpsma
02-21-2022, 05:35 AM
How this thread got to be a discussion about my tagline is amazing. A couple of weeks ago a poster sent me a pm suggesting places i might find Halal or Kosher meats.
Here is my reply..
You obviously are writing about my tagline.
Let me explain..lol.
Im neither Muslim or Jewish. Im not seeking Halal meats.
The tagline grew out of a post I made years ago asking about Halal Chicken and Rice. Having worked in NYC for my entire career, I grew fond of the Halal Chicken and rice bought from the many vendors on NYC streets.
I posted saying we need some halal vendors here in tv. I think i wasnt even living here yet but had visited many times and intended to retire here. The post was basically tongue-in-cheek but it created a mini firestorm of replies. Many were quite angry that i wanted Arab food because “they blew up the World Trade Center”. If you know the poster GracieGirl, she was funny...saying that “where i come from we dont eat that fancy food..we like beans over corn bread”..lol.
Some posters chimed in and pointed out that food is not political. But one poster finally explained that i was simply talking about street vendor food that is very prevalent in NYC.
I always promised GracieGirl that if i could perfect the recipe here, i would make it and deliver her some of this “fancy” food. Unfortunately, i could never get it right.
So i decided to use that tagline.
But thanks for letting me know where i could get Halal...perhapsThey have hala chicken and rice.
ithos
02-21-2022, 05:52 AM
With my last comment I'll step away form further conversation about the racist post.
Islam is not a race. It is a religion. And by the way it is Christians who are the most persecuted in the world today. And almost all of them are not Caucasian.
Christian persecution '''at near genocide levels''' - BBC News (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48146305)
golfing eagles
02-21-2022, 06:05 AM
How this thread got to be a discussion about my tagline is amazing. A couple of weeks ago a poster sent me a pm suggesting places i might find Halal or Kosher meats.
Here is my reply..
You obviously are writing about my tagline.
Let me explain..lol.
Im neither Muslim or Jewish. Im not seeking Halal meats.
The tagline grew out of a post I made years ago asking about Halal Chicken and Rice. Having worked in NYC for my entire career, I grew fond of the Halal Chicken and rice bought from the many vendors on NYC streets.
I posted saying we need some halal vendors here in tv. I think i wasnt even living here yet but had visited many times and intended to retire here. The post was basically tongue-in-cheek but it created a mini firestorm of replies. Many were quite angry that i wanted Arab food because “they blew up the World Trade Center”. If you know the poster GracieGirl, she was funny...saying that “where i come from we dont eat that fancy food..we like beans over corn bread”..lol.
Some posters chimed in and pointed out that food is not political. But one poster finally explained that i was simply talking about street vendor food that is very prevalent in NYC.
I always promised GracieGirl that if i could perfect the recipe here, i would make it and deliver her some of this “fancy” food. Unfortunately, i could never get it right.
So i decided to use that tagline.
But thanks for letting me know where i could get Halal...perhapsThey have hala chicken and rice.
As far as my post goes, I apologize to you. I was guilty of doing what others have done to me----not understand a joke for what it is and go off on it. On a thread about golf a week ago, in responding to the suggestion that ambassadors be given more power to move the pace of play along, I suggested that would risk turning them into "golf Nazis", an obvious humorous reference to Seinfeld and the "soup Nazi". Obvious to most, but the same poster on this thread that has a broomstick where it doesn't belong went on again about "hate" and "Nazis", like a real Nazi would have anything to do with a golf ambassador.
What I posted about 9/11 is the mere tip of the iceberg regarding my personal experience that day and in the aftermath. No, it is not right to condemn 1.5 billion for the actions of 20 and I realize it. I did have a problem with the total silence from that part of the world in not condemning the attacks. So I am a bit sensitive to anything that reminds me of it. But no problem with food!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
JMintzer
02-21-2022, 06:55 AM
Here’s a question for ya.
Why would anyone think it would be a good idea to go to a dog park and let their dog run around with a bunch of other dogs that they know nothing about?
I got $50 that says there are signs posted at these parks warning to use at your own risk.
Wait... That is EXACTLY what many on this board INSIST that dog owners do...Lest they pee on their grass and kill their entire lawn!
JMintzer
02-21-2022, 06:56 AM
So Grandpa is guilty, no need to hear his side of the story of what happened. Some of you here are satisfied that the OP is the good guy he would never lie about what happened and grandpa is the bad guy. You know this with 100% certainty without witnessing the incident? Maybe grandpa offered to give the OP his info but the OP became threatening and angry and grandpa got scared and just left. I don’t know this because Just like everyone else here I wasn’t there!
If his dog bit someone, he is guilty of leaving the scene without giving any contact information...
JMintzer
02-21-2022, 06:58 AM
Yes. He was addressing a post expressing racism and hatred. Very appropriate to make a statement against that, no matter how "in vogue" it has become.
No, his initial response was most certainly NOT responding to any sort of racisim nor hatred...
oldtimes
02-21-2022, 07:39 AM
Yes, I know, and if/when I hear from the moderators I will take whatever punishment I receive. But I will not ignore bigotry, racism, .... It is worth the time out if readers are given the opportunity to reflect on the awful things that get posted by some here. Or if such posters at least pause before again posting such hateful malicious opinions
:bigbow:
golfing eagles
02-21-2022, 07:42 AM
OK, here's an idea. Let's get this thread back on track----A man bitten by a dog whose lowlife owner left the scene, so now the victim has to worry about the "immunization status" of the dog. I hope by now the victim has received medical attention and is on appropriate prophylactic antibiotics. I also hope the owner and dog have been identified and proof of rabies vaccination has been provided. I'm sure the community would appreciate an update.
buster21
02-21-2022, 08:35 AM
I would. Hope he is OK.
dewilson58
02-21-2022, 09:27 AM
Probably will never kno..............The full story, both sides, should be posted for all to read.
:icon_wink:
Spalumbos62
02-21-2022, 09:51 AM
it was well said, and well done.
You were out of line expressing your hatred on this thread.
Whatever your reasons for feeling justified for your racism, it doesn't belong here.
It DOESN'T belong on this post...at all...just like many of his post...yet the monitors never remove his. Maybe we have bigger problems
Spalumbos62
02-21-2022, 09:58 AM
I agree, I lost it.
But if you want a reason, try 2,996 dead on 9/11 including 2 good friends and my 1st cousin
It is not "racism" to remember
However, I would like to apologize to the forum for my outburst, well, all except 1
Well, that's no apology, you say to all except the one you threw shade to...sounds very immature to me. Like he/she can help where he came from. He didn't cause 9/11 and all its pain. Sure hope you are not German.
Klassykathy
02-21-2022, 10:21 AM
This morning around 11 AM my dog and I were attacked at the Mulberry Dog Park by the dog in the picture below. The dog bit my hand and broke the skin in five places.
The cowardly owner just walked out of the park to a golf cart that was driven by another man. The owner and equally nasty friend tried to drive off without giving me any information about the dog or himself. However they were photo captured by witnesses. The cart is a Grayish Yellow (NYS4) Yamaha with the names Janice and Jack on the front.
If anyone can please provide me with any additional information on these two men it would be appreciated. I am told that if I need medical attention I will need to file a police report and they will want the owners information.
You can Private Message me through the TOV site.
Thank you.
What county is the dog park & surrounding area? You could look up tax records and try to find them.
Janice is not such a common name. Here is Sumter County. No Jack but what is that a nickname for? Maybe send them a nice note asking for rabies shot info?
Property Tax Search - TaxSys - Sumter County Tax Collector (https://sumter.county-taxes.com/public/search/property_tax?search_query=Janice)
Just a thought…
golfing eagles
02-21-2022, 10:22 AM
Well, that's no apology, you say to all except the one you threw shade to...sounds very immature to me. Like he/she can help where he came from. He didn't cause 9/11 and all its pain. Sure hope you are not German.
No, the "except one" was not directed to the member who wants Halal food, to him/her was intended the sincere apology. I think everyone else can figure out who "the one" was quite easily, but I dare not say what I now think of that person whose posts I admired at first.
PS: Objecting to a post for which I already apologized for which may have been insulting to the Arabic/Muslim community by adding "I hope you're not German" kind of forfeits your moral high ground, don't you think?????
Topspinmo
02-21-2022, 10:23 AM
Most times it helps to read all the posts, before, posting…….
Take a look at #103.
And who does that?
Bogie Shooter
02-21-2022, 10:34 AM
And who does that?
As they say, "if the shoe fits......".
Topspinmo
02-21-2022, 10:39 AM
I was bitten on my arm by a small yorkie about 3 weeks ago. (Not in TV). Very painful. Went to urgent care, got a tetanus shot, wound cleaned, oral antibiotics. And filled out a police report. The dog owner is my neighbor and was very helpful in getting rabies records etc. she has also been bringing over desserts every night— I’m sure she’s afraid I’ll sue. Which I won’t. But I feel so very bad for the yorkie who is very aggressive and has never been socialized. My neighbor had already bought him a muzzle (which means she knew he would do something like this.) Life will probably not end well for this yorkie and that is tragic imho….even though my arm still hurts like h***.
So thinking the neighbors dog should be put down cause it broke you’re skin. Maybe you was at fault approaching the dog?
Not saying this was you’re problem?
Lot people don’t understand don’t approach strange dogs on leash with owners or in their home. Any terrier’s have sharp teeth and can open up wound when playing. Some people have rescued dogs that has been abused and they don’t trust strangers. So, just cause it’s small and cute don’t mean can approach it with hand out. If so may be bitten.
Topspinmo
02-21-2022, 10:40 AM
As they say, "if the shoe fits......".
Yes, my shoes fit very well. Thanks for asking :coolsmiley:
golfing eagles
02-21-2022, 10:43 AM
So thinking the neighbors dog should be put down cause it broke you’re skin. Maybe you was at fault approaching the dog?
Not saying this was you’re problem?
Lot people don’t understand don’t approach strange dogs on leash with owners or in their home. Any terrier’s have sharp teeth and can open up wound when playing. Some people have rescued dogs that has been abused and they don’t trust strangers. So, just cause it’s small and cute don’t mean can approach it with hand out. If so may be bitten.
True, but I don't think the point of this thread (originally, before it took a side excursion) was that bites happen at a dog park. It was the owner slinking off without giving the information the victim needed. I leave it to the lawyers to debate if that action is criminal or not, clearly, the owner is civilly liable.
Spalumbos62
02-21-2022, 11:07 AM
No, the "except one" was not directed to the member who wants Halal food, to him/her was intended the sincere apology. I think everyone else can figure out who "the one" was quite easily, but I dare not say what I now think of that person whose posts I admired at first.
PS: Objecting to a post for which I already apologized for which may have been insulting to the Arabic/Muslim community by adding "I hope you're not German" kind of forfeits your moral high ground, don't you think?????
What you say here vs what you originally said in your apology, well is very ambiguous, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt.
Regarding your ps , obviously I was not being prejudice, or having any high ground, as you tried to twist what I said. (Btw- that's done by you allot, js)
I was actually trying to drive home the point of the hated leader does not mean all are bad....but you knew that and yet you tried to twist to soften your original pour judgement.
OrangeBlossomBaby
02-21-2022, 11:25 AM
More hate from you. Would you refer to the Pope as the Grand Poohbah of Catholics? Sure, you are just quoting some movie line. You consistently make hateful comments about people who are not just like you, but of course not as smart or as great at golf.
The fact that you apparently had to look up the meaning of Halal shows you are not nearly as well educated as you claim to be. It is a very well known term by people who don't live in their own personal ethnic bubble.
It certainly suggests that you were unable as a physician to properly care for any Muslim patients who presented to your office.
Why in the world would you oppose the availability of Halal food for those who want it, unless you wish to oppress those who wish to follow a Halal diet? Islamophobia? Religious bigotry? Pick your term, but decent human is not an option.
He posted after this post, so it's clear he was online, logged in, and available to remove the post, or delete it, or edit it. He chose to wait over 5 hours to do so. Looks to me he wasn't apologetic at all, since he made absolutely sure that hundreds of people who read this forum during the evening hours of a random Sunday would see it first.
There are Muslims who live in the Villages. Some of them read this forum. Some folks get moderated and given a "vacation" for less. Hate speech is hate speech, and there is NO justification for it. I don't care if your mom, dad, siblings, and second cousins were all blown up by the Green Meanie sect of evangelical christians of Alabama. It doesn't mean the entirety of Alabama are terrorists. It doesn't mean that all evangelical christians are terrorists. It is a form of terrorism itself, to spread this hateful rhetoric, and once seen, it can't be unseen.
BostonRich
03-02-2022, 12:18 PM
Marion County Animal Control is searching for this dog that bit me in the Mulberry Grove Dog Park. It is very important to know the vaccination status of this dog. Since rabies is fatal the health department is recommending rabies treatments that are very expensive and painful.
Golf cart is a grayish yellow Yamaha with the names Janice and Jack on the front.
If you have any information please Private Message me here or call MCAC at 352-671-8700.
Thank you.
Two Bills
03-02-2022, 12:43 PM
I thought 'toymeister' had solve the identity problem on previous post.
vintageogauge
03-02-2022, 01:16 PM
I sure hope you find that POS. Did you try posting those photos on the Mulberry Facebook group?
Bilyclub
03-02-2022, 01:23 PM
Contact Community Watch to see if they can pull up the camera footage and possible track where the cart went.
Stu from NYC
03-02-2022, 02:00 PM
I thought 'toymeister' had solve the identity problem on previous post.
I thought so too.
Two Bills
03-02-2022, 05:07 PM
From previous thread. Now closed.
02-19-2022, 10:41 AM
Toymeister
I have contacted the OP with the name and address of what I believe is the perp's get away driver. Let's hope he returns to this thread with an update.
My confidence level of this ID is at 90%.
Absolutely everything that any of you needed to do this was contained in the OP's original post.
Last edited by Toymeister; 02-19-2022 at 10:57 AM.
and.
02-19-2022, 05:44 PM
Toymeister
He was fairly close to the park, an easy cart ride. People are foolish if they think that they can't be found out with virtually any information. I think it took me less than fourteen minutes to locate him.
:shrug:
fdpaq0580
03-02-2022, 07:18 PM
Was hoping this follow up was going to give us new info on identity and results of medical situation and any legal action.
We'll be waiting.
Seasonal
03-02-2022, 07:28 PM
Beginning of March and this goof is already out of the running for Grandpa of the year. :ohdear: Jack (the get-away driver) is out too.
Topspinmo
03-02-2022, 09:46 PM
If they were snow birds they may have already flew the coop.
Chi-Town
03-02-2022, 11:15 PM
It's coming up to a couple of weeks.
When should I seek medical attention?
| Exposure | Rabies | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/rabies/exposure/index.html#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%2C%2 0PEP,soon%20as%20possible%20after%20exposure).
CWGUY
03-02-2022, 11:20 PM
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janet1001
03-03-2022, 05:59 AM
Put pics on Facebook and all Village’s Facebook groups- hopefully someone will recognize him. So sorry this happened to you…
chenault55
03-03-2022, 07:17 AM
I don’t have any information for you but I wanted to apologize to you for the person who likely never will. I’m sorry this happened to you but please blame the owners (if you find them) not the dog. I hope you heal with no problems. Good luck!
bowlingal
03-03-2022, 07:44 AM
get the Daily Sun involved....or news 6 or 12
Stu from NYC
03-03-2022, 08:40 AM
get the Daily Sun involved....or news 6 or 12
Daily Sun? This does not fit the parameters of news for them.
Bilyclub
03-03-2022, 08:44 AM
The online rag would put this up in a heartbeat.
asiebel
03-03-2022, 08:58 AM
This should be in the villages news paper.
Contact the TV stations in Orlando! This poor man should not have to go through rabies shots! The dog owner has no conscience!
Taurus510
03-03-2022, 09:16 AM
I’m beginning to doubt the “facts” of this story. Someone drops in, tells a quick tale then disappears without any additional information or updates. Meanwhile everyone is giving advice, even identifying one of the perps. Crickets from the OP. and they’ve done the same in two separate posts. Maybe it’s just me…
PugMom
03-03-2022, 09:18 AM
I thought 'toymeister' had solve the identity problem on previous post.
yeah, the question now is: how the bitten man is doing today, & does he know if the dog had it's shots?
deputydoc
03-03-2022, 09:21 AM
No they can’t No cameras at dog parks only at gates
Toymeister
03-03-2022, 09:31 AM
I thought 'toymeister' had solve the identity problem on previous post.
Me too. If he wants confirmation all he needs to do is create a simple ruse to have the person that I identified open his garage door. Failing that I gave him the tools to find other potential perps.
I like most of the posters here but there are limits what I'll do for them.
airstreamingypsy
03-03-2022, 09:36 AM
Posted on The Villages Word of Mouth....... on Facebook. Fingers crossed someone recognizes him. I will publicly name him here if someone does.
BostonRich
03-03-2022, 09:56 AM
I’m beginning to doubt the “facts” of this story. Someone drops in, tells a quick tale then disappears without any additional information or updates. Meanwhile everyone is giving advice, even identifying one of the perps. Crickets from the OP. and they’ve done the same in two separate posts. Maybe it’s just me…
So want an update? Here you go:
golfing eagles
03-03-2022, 09:56 AM
There you go downplaying the whole thing, again. You know there is a good reason for the mandatory reporting of all animal bites. The guy was wrong for leaving and deserves whatever grief he gets. Welcome to TOTY, I guess you want to be the resident dog expert here.
Doubt it, he already failed the written test:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
golfing eagles
03-03-2022, 09:58 AM
So want an update? Here you go:
Interesting. From the picture, looks like a contact dermatitis. Any dermatologists here????
OhioBuckeye
03-03-2022, 10:07 AM
Bostonrich, this happened about 2 weeks ago, so if they haven’t located this guy yet they probably won’t or the police gave up on it. You posted good pictures to identify him so my guess is someone just don’t want to get involved, sorry!
BostonRich
03-03-2022, 10:13 AM
Bostonrich, this happened about 2 weeks ago, so if they haven’t located this guy yet they probably won’t or the police gave up on it. You posted good pictures to identify him so my guess is someone just don’t want to get involved, sorry!
Thanks OhioBuckeye. We are actually in the active window right now where they are searching for the dog. Took time to get this going because the MCAC is understaffed right now.
Taurus510
03-03-2022, 10:17 AM
So want an update? Here you go:
We’ll thanks, but while looking at pictures is great, what I meant about updates was, for example, did you take the information that was given to you to identify the perps? Did you take anyone’s advice? You come in, make a dramatic post, then sit back and go quiet. Sort of a drive by poster. Anywhooo…I’ve seen dog bites before. That’s a strange looking dog bite.
ex34449
03-03-2022, 11:13 AM
So want an update? Here you go:
I'm not a dermatologist but I've been around dogs, poisonous plants and the outdoors my entire life. That looks like no dog bite I've ever seen but I sure does look like you're allergic to a plant.
Bilyclub
03-03-2022, 12:27 PM
I'm not a dermatologist but I've been around dogs, poisonous plants and the outdoors my entire life. That looks like no dog bite I've ever seen but I sure does look like you're allergic to a plant.
You apparently did not read the whole thread and breezed past Post #1.
ex34449
03-03-2022, 12:41 PM
No I read it in its entirety. I'm not saying it wasn't a dog bite, I'm just saying I've never seen one blister up like that. I'm always around dogs and have been my whole life. Been bitten more times than I can count, I've never seen one blister up like that even when infected... and I've had a few of those as well.
Hape2Bhr
03-03-2022, 12:43 PM
Curious; the bloody hand looks like the right hand, but the infected(?) photo appears to be the left?
BostonRich
03-03-2022, 12:45 PM
Thanks for your insight. I can state that I haven't been gardening or around any plants, weeds, etc. since this happened.
Miboater
03-03-2022, 12:49 PM
Curious; the bloody hand looks like the right hand, but the infected(?) photo appears to be the left?
Looks like the 2nd photo was taken in a mirror so that's probably why it looks like the left hand.
BostonRich
03-03-2022, 12:52 PM
Curious; the bloody hand looks like the right hand, but the infected(?) photo appears to be the left?
Good observation. That picture was taken in portrait mode. Here is a normal pic:
golfing eagles
03-03-2022, 12:53 PM
Good observation. That picture was taken in portrait mode. Here is a normal pic:
At some point did you cover the wound with an adhesive bandage????
ex34449
03-03-2022, 12:53 PM
Thanks for your insight. I can state that I haven't been gardening or around any plants, weeds, etc. since this happened.
Have you seen a doc or dermatologist since it started blistering up? Again, not arguing but if that was me I'd be asking for another opinion/evaluation. You can get that from another animal or person if they just came in contact prior to the event.
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"Poison ivy and other poison plant rashes can't be spread from person to person. But it is possible to pick up the rash from plant oil that may have stuck to clothing, pets, garden tools, and other items that have come in contact with these plants."
Pgcacace
03-03-2022, 01:19 PM
Put pics on Facebook and all Village’s Facebook groups- hopefully someone will recognize him. So sorry this happened to you…
If you post that you need to get in touch w this guy, his friends might not respond if they knows he in trouble. Just say it important to get in touch w him. Just a suggestion.
Keefelane66
03-03-2022, 02:34 PM
It’s amazing how all threads get off track from discussions of an apparatus power supply to Comcast Service/Youtube there have been plenty of threads regarding cutting the cord.
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