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Koapaka
10-27-2022, 04:25 PM
It may be that it is very difficult to get information like this out to the public. There is a DR John Campbell on YouTube who has been speaking about the virus for two years now. He has become quite a verbal gymnist, attempting to get information out withot falling prey to the censorship.

Dr John Campbell is an EXCELLENT SOURCE of data that has been confirmed and validated within the medical community. He and I saw eye to eye from the beginning, EXCEPT for the vaccine. He, thankfully, is humble enough to question what the stats are showing now vs what he blindly accepted from the beginning. He is a true, honorable man that has helped MANY with TRUTH as it becomes apparent to him and as statistics prove. Still unjabbed, still alive, still COVID free. Go to YOUTUBE and watch his videos, he uses NOTHING except peer reviewed data and allows you to see what/where to search yourself for the truth.

Bay Kid
10-28-2022, 07:12 AM
Once they were found out and made the news, they now claim that since their new strain only killed 80% of the mice it was tested on and not 100% like an earlier variant, it was not gain of function. Thank goodness we have fact checkers to clear that up.

So why be doing these dangerous test? Playing with the devil.

Who fact checks the fact checkers?

Whitley
10-28-2022, 08:16 AM
Dr John Campbell is an EXCELLENT SOURCE of data that has been confirmed and validated within the medical community. He and I saw eye to eye from the beginning, EXCEPT for the vaccine. He, thankfully, is humble enough to question what the stats are showing now vs what he blindly accepted from the beginning. He is a true, honorable man that has helped MANY with TRUTH as it becomes apparent to him and as statistics prove. Still unjabbed, still alive, still COVID free. Go to YOUTUBE and watch his videos, he uses NOTHING except peer reviewed data and allows you to see what/where to search yourself for the truth.

He is an honorable man, not afraid to change his teaching as facts come out. It is ridiculous that people are censored from reporting facts.

Whitley
10-28-2022, 09:03 AM
Somewhere someone posted that you are more likely to get a heart condition from virus than the vaccine. This could mean there is something both have in common that causes heart issues. I would propose the possibility that it is the spike protein. Has anyone read anything that identifies the cause for the heart issues being experienced? Does the Mrna vaccine move throughout the body or remain in the shoulder muscle? Because of my history I tend to relate things to cancer, where my life was saved by injecting poison in my body to kill the cancer. I experience other side effects, but am alive. Has any study been published that looks at the spike protein in the Mrna vaccine as the reason for the reported heart issues? Just a topic of interest.

Altavia
10-28-2022, 10:54 AM
Somewhere someone posted that you are more likely to get a heart condition from virus than the vaccine. This could mean there is something both have in common that causes heart issues. I would propose the possibility that it is the spike protein. Has anyone read anything that identifies the cause for the heart issues being experienced? Does the Mrna vaccine move throughout the body or remain in the shoulder muscle?

Because of my history I tend to relate things to cancer, where my life was saved by injecting poison in my body to kill the cancer. I experience other side effects, but am alive. Has any study been published that looks at the spike protein in the Mrna vaccine as the reason for the reported heart issues? Just a topic of interest.

Good question and on the right track. Basically, it is an overreaction of the immune system.

The reaction can be much stronger if you have COVID than the vaccine.

And can happen for many non COVID/vaccine reasons.

What is heart inflammation? (https://healthblog.uofmhealth.org/heart-health/what-heart-inflammation)

"Vaccines produce a protein that triggers an immune response in the body. With an immune system response, there’s a very low risk of developing myocarditis — a type of heart inflammation that tends to be mild and self-resolving. The COVID vaccine in particular very rarely causes a serious autoimmune response.

An individual is much more likely to get myocarditis from COVID-19 than from the vaccine due to the stronger immune response triggered by the viral infection.

For this reason, getting vaccinated is much less risky than getting infected with regards to myocarditis."

CoachKandSportsguy
10-29-2022, 08:19 AM
There is another danger posed by the anti-vaxxers. Individually, they may get lucky and NOT be hospitalized or DIE. It is selfish of them and detrimental to society as a whole. Because they may be asymptomatic and may be spreading it around to older people who DIE or younger people that have other health conditions that in concert with Covid cause them to be hospitalized or die. That is why in the more patriotic past, there were mandates for vaccines that were designed to serve the greater good over the spoiled, selfish few. And just try enlisting in the military and saying you are special, you are an ANTI-VAXXER.

For everyone, vaxxers and anti vaxxers, what ever choice you make, your choice will work until it doesn't work anymore. Its the same with all choices in life, because the future is always uncertain.

and the best you can do is to go with the highest probability of the best outcome, for which you and everyone else will never have perfect information.

good luck, but you are just another human speck floating around space on a slightly bigger speck in the random universe. . . and its mostly random anyways