Buena Vista Expressway

[nn0wheremann]

In Chicago the high speed roads are designated as Expressways, like the Dan Ryan or the Kennedy, etc. If this morning’s traffic is indicative of the norm, Buena Vista Blvd ought to be renamed Buena Vista Expressway. 55 mph southbound approaching Lake Sumter landing. Of course the traffic mimicked the Chicago expressways when it came to a screeching halt and backed up from the wreck at 466A all the way to St. Charles at the St. James roundabout. Holy smokes, folks! Let’s stop driving like Bozos, and keep it down to nine mph over the speed limit.

[VApeople]

the wreck at 466A

So was there another accident at the Buena Vista and 466A intersection?

[Keefelane66]

Yes it’s not unusual vehicles traveling maybe 55 mph St James Circle to 466A light. I experience it 2 or 3 times a week. And, the same 466A to St James Circle. I’ve accepted to be the norm.

[JP]

I go the speed limit in the right lane and don't think or worry about what other people are doing. Just try to avoid the insanity.

[JohnN]

Holy smokes, folks! Let’s stop driving like Bozos, and keep it down to nine mph over the speed limit.

good luck on that one

[Chi-Town]

In Chicago the high speed roads are designated as Expressways, like the Dan Ryan or the Kennedy, etc. If this morning’s traffic is indicative of the norm, Buena Vista Blvd ought to be renamed Buena Vista Expressway. 55 mph southbound approaching Lake Sumter landing. Of course the traffic mimicked the Chicago expressways when it came to a screeching halt and backed up from the wreck at 466A all the way to St. Charles at the St. James roundabout. Holy smokes, folks! Let’s stop driving like Bozos, and keep it down to nine mph over the speed limit.

Buena Vista does have a couple of southbound "express lanes" between Lake Sumter and 466A. Can pick up speed there.

[NotGolfer]

In observing traffic going south on Morse after L.S. the other day, I mentioned to my S.O. how cars here, reminded me of when we'd travel through Chicago back in the day. In all the years we've lived here I don't think those 1st years 13* ago were like they are today. Many folks are moving here from metro areas where speeds like this are common. I agree people NEED to slow down!! Wish the Sheriff's department would begin issuing tickets once again.

[VApeople]

I go the speed limit in the right lane

I go the speed limit in both lanes. It does not bother me if other people choose to drive faster.

[Ndomines]

Not to worry. Soon the seasonal residents will head out. Things will slow down and the construction vehicles will once again rule the roads.

[fdpaq0580]

I Wish the Sheriff's department would begin issuing tickets once again.

Agree! They are missing a great opportunity for big money.

[shut the front door]

What brand of radar gun did these people buy that enables them to know how fast other cars are going?

[mlmarr]

Welcome to snowbird season plus new residents plus worker bees..

[Nucky]

You can want it, you can wish for it, you can pray for it, you can stand on your head and spit chicklets, the way people drive in the south in general and the way they operate in The Villages is never going to change. All you can do is strive not to be part of the problem. Every person in our community is the best of the best on the road. Just ask them.

I use my directionals on every maneuver in a roundabout. There is no doubt about my intentions. That being said even though I get an A+ for the effort I commend the people who wait for me to complete my next move and do not trust the blinkers because you can't trust the other person's blinkers down yonder, they often forget to turn them off. You can't be distracted for a split section around here. No heavy arguments or discussions while behind the wheel. NOBODY WILL CHANGE THEIR WAY OF DRIVING EVER.

I have a three million mile safe driving award from when I was a YOUNG MAN. I have more miles in reverse backing up any flavor truck imaginable and yet I readily admit that my driving skills have deteriorated. I don't have the cat like skills that I once did.

I'm the guy in the right lane doing the speed limit and getting the finger once in a while. I don't care. If you honk at me when I don't take off after waiting for a light to turn green like a Pro Stock Driver then we're going to have to sit there for a bit to get you good and heated up. If you get so heated that you choose to get out of your car to discipline me it won't be good. I have changed a lot. I'm Florida Chilled Out but don't push me. I'm retired and left my home with at least a 15-minute grace period to get to my destination safely.

If the OP does change someone else's speeding habits drop us a line and let us all know how you did it. Take Care and good luck.

[Worldseries27]

in chicago the high speed roads are designated as expressways, like the dan ryan or the kennedy, etc. If this morning’s traffic is indicative of the norm, buena vista blvd ought to be renamed buena vista expressway. 55 mph southbound approaching lake sumter landing. Of course the traffic mimicked the chicago expressways when it came to a screeching halt and backed up from the wreck at 466a all the way to st. Charles at the st. James roundabout. Holy smokes, folks! Let’s stop driving like bozos, and keep it down to nine mph over the speed limit.
old spring breakers on the rampage

[Get real]

I go the speed limit in both lanes. It does not bother me if other people choose to drive faster.

and you would be breaking the law too.

[terryf484]

What brand of radar gun did these people buy that enables them to know how fast other cars are going?

Doesn't take rocket science to tell when cars go by you like your standing still!! Thought we come here to retire and relax and take it easy.

[bark4me]

In Chicago the high speed roads are designated as Expressways, like the Dan Ryan or the Kennedy, etc. If this morning’s traffic is indicative of the norm, Buena Vista Blvd ought to be renamed Buena Vista Expressway. 55 mph southbound approaching Lake Sumter landing. Of course the traffic mimicked the Chicago expressways when it came to a screeching halt and backed up from the wreck at 466A all the way to St. Charles at the St. James roundabout. Holy smokes, folks! Let’s stop driving like Bozos, and keep it down to nine mph over the speed limit.
Just curious. Which speed enforcement device were you using? If radar, where you un moving mode or stationary mode? Did you have visual tracking history? Perhaps it was laser. What was the distance when you obtained your reading and at how many feet away? When did you last have your device certified?

[golfing eagles]

Doesn't take rocket science to tell when cars go by you like your standing still!! Thought we come here to retire and relax and take it easy.

Depends. Are you going 15 mph???

[rsmurano]

It doesn’t matter if someone uses their turn signals in a roundabout if they are not going to abide by the roundabout rules. I had a plumbers truck in the inside lane coming into a roundabout to my left and he almost hit me making a right on the 1st exit, which is against the rules. I called the company and reported their driver and they were going to speak to him.
Months ago, I made a comment that the snowbirds are here, the average age just went up and the avg mph on the streets just got lowered by 10mph.

[Bilyclub]

What brand of radar gun did these people buy that enables them to know how fast other cars are going?

Radar hasn't been around in traffic enforcement for many years. It's now Lidar and it's better and safer for the user. Though being TV they might have a vascar setup.

[VApeople]

I had a plumbers truck in the inside lane coming into a roundabout to my left and he almost hit me making a right on the 1st exit, which is against the rules.

I had that happen to me a few years ago and I was really shocked. Then it happened two more times in the few weeks.

I don't like the phrase "drive defensively" because it sounds like we should always be in fear of something happening. I prefer something like "drive alertly" and always be prepared for the other drivers to do something stupid.

[marianne237]

Ever notice that turn signals quit working after you cross the Georgia/Florida state line?

[Limey]

If you are doing the speed limit anywhere in The Villages, you are probably going to get run over along with a few one finger salutes. Until the PD start issuing tickets it's only going to get worse.

[shut the front door]

Depends. Are you going 15 mph???

I'm sure he's capable of doing more than 15. He's the one doing 25 in a 35 in the left lane. :a20:

[VApeople]

If you are doing the speed limit anywhere in The Villages, you are probably going to get run over along with a few one finger salutes.

I drive the speed limit and I ain't never had a problem.

[flash4353]

Who would have ever thought that a driver from Chicago would be giving safe driving tips. Next thing you know he'll be talking about the Bears going to the Super Bowl.

[nn0wheremann]

I had that happen to me a few years ago and I was really shocked. Then it happened two more times in the few weeks.

I don't like the phrase "drive defensively" because it sounds like we should always be in fear of something happening. I prefer something like "drive alertly" and always be prepared for the other drivers to do something stupid.
Drive like everyone else is a homicidal maniac having a bad day.

[nn0wheremann]

Who would have ever thought that a driver from Chicago would be giving safe driving tips. Next thing you know he'll be talking about the Bears going to the Super Bowl.
Expressway traffic in Chicago tends to be very safe an polite. If one drives like a Bozo, one is likely to be followed down the exit and “admonished.” Chicago drivers, being the spiritual lot that they are, understand that admonishing the transgressor is a spiritual work of mercy. Provides a good living for the ambulance and ER crews too. :)

[Velvet]

Well, up north there are speed bumps to calm traffic. Here I just tuck myself behind the best driver and figure if someone’s going to get the ticket they’ll be first.

[shut the front door]

Well, up north there are speed bumps to calm traffic. Here I just tuck myself behind the best driver and figure if someone’s going to get the ticket they’ll be first.

Whew, for a while I thought you were stalking me! :loco:

[Bill14564]

Ever notice that turn signals quit working after you cross the Georgia/Florida state line?

Going which direction? I haven't noticed much of a difference anywhere on the east coast.

[Jokomo]

In Chicago the high speed roads are designated as Expressways, like the Dan Ryan or the Kennedy, etc. If this morning’s traffic is indicative of the norm, Buena Vista Blvd ought to be renamed Buena Vista Expressway. 55 mph southbound approaching Lake Sumter landing. Of course the traffic mimicked the Chicago expressways when it came to a screeching halt and backed up from the wreck at 466A all the way to St. Charles at the St. James roundabout. Holy smokes, folks! Let’s stop driving like Bozos, and keep it down to nine mph over the speed limit.

The police have made it clear that they will not enforce speed limits in The Villages. Maybe the affected community members need to take independent action. One suggestion is to organize “rolling blockades” on both Morse and Buena Vista. 2-4 cars driving exactly the speed limit n formation that blocks passing. The speed limit on Morse north of 466 is 30 mph. All of Buena Vista and Morse south of 466 is 35 mph. A handful of volunteers could accomplish what the police are refusing to do.

[fdpaq0580]

Just curious. Which speed enforcement device were you using? If radar, where you un moving mode or stationary mode? Did you have visual tracking history? Perhaps it was laser. What was the distance when you obtained your reading and at how many feet away? When did you last have your device certified?

I use the Guessomatic 3500 from Whatcha Think?.Inc, LLC. I'm right every time.

[Pamelah]

The police have made it clear that they will not enforce speed limits in The Villages. Maybe the affected community members need to take independent action. One suggestion is to organize “rolling blockades” on both Morse and Buena Vista. 2-4 cars driving exactly the speed limit n formation that blocks passing. The speed limit on Morse north of 466 is 30 mph. All of Buena Vista and Morse south of 466 is 35 mph. A handful of volunteers could accomplish what the police are refusing to do.

You forget there’s a bunch of idiots packin’ guns. You might be slowing one down, really tick him off, next thing you know there’ll be a shoot out.

[Velvet]

You forget there’s a bunch of idiots packin’ guns. You might be slowing one down, really tick him off, next thing you know there’ll be a shoot out.

Oh goodie! Finally, the police might get involved….

[charmed59]

The police have made it clear that they will not enforce speed limits in The Villages. Maybe the affected community members need to take independent action. One suggestion is to organize “rolling blockades” on both Morse and Buena Vista. 2-4 cars driving exactly the speed limit n formation that blocks passing. The speed limit on Morse north of 466 is 30 mph. All of Buena Vista and Morse south of 466 is 35 mph. A handful of volunteers could accomplish what the police are refusing to do.

I don’t understand what this would accomplish. Sure, for the time these blockades are on the road the traffic behind them will be going the speed limit. But what about the traffic in front of them? What about the traffic on the bypasses? How do you find enough volunteers to run this 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. You understand as soon as one car of the blockade pulls off all traffic goes back to normal. It will annoy people. I can’t imagine anyone would run into this and think “hey, I’ll start driving the speed limit.”

I don’t have a problem with people driving the speed limit or slower. I fine with people are driving the speed they are comfortable driving. And I am confident that there is no way I can control how other people drive. I like to drive assuming everyone drives like my late grandfather. If they do better I find it a lovely surprise.

[JMintzer]

You forget there’s a bunch of idiots packin’ guns. You might be slowing one down, really tick him off, next thing you know there’ll be a shoot out.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[golfing eagles]

The police have made it clear that they will not enforce speed limits in The Villages. Maybe the affected community members need to take independent action. One suggestion is to organize “rolling blockades” on both Morse and Buena Vista. 2-4 cars driving exactly the speed limit n formation that blocks passing. The speed limit on Morse north of 466 is 30 mph. All of Buena Vista and Morse south of 466 is 35 mph. A handful of volunteers could accomplish what the police are refusing to do.

In which case you could be cited for obstructing traffic and failure to move right when another vehicle wants to pass you. And here's a side question----who appointed you the enforcer of speed limits??????

[Michael 61]

I’ve noticed since moving here how many people flaunt speed limits — and I’m talking 20-30 even more mph over limit. I’m sure it happens, but I have yet to see any motorists pulled over by police. Police presence would be a major deterrent to speeders. Also, it would be a financial windfall for the counties if they got strict with ticketing speeders.

[tuccillo]

Bad idea, for more reasons than I care to expand upon.

The police have made it clear that they will not enforce speed limits in The Villages. Maybe the affected community members need to take independent action. One suggestion is to organize “rolling blockades” on both Morse and Buena Vista. 2-4 cars driving exactly the speed limit n formation that blocks passing. The speed limit on Morse north of 466 is 30 mph. All of Buena Vista and Morse south of 466 is 35 mph. A handful of volunteers could accomplish what the police are refusing to do.

[Pairadocs]

In Chicago the high speed roads are designated as Expressways, like the Dan Ryan or the Kennedy, etc. If this morning’s traffic is indicative of the norm, Buena Vista Blvd ought to be renamed Buena Vista Expressway. 55 mph southbound approaching Lake Sumter landing. Of course the traffic mimicked the Chicago expressways when it came to a screeching halt and backed up from the wreck at 466A all the way to St. Charles at the St. James roundabout. Holy smokes, folks! Let’s stop driving like Bozos, and keep it down to nine mph over the speed limit.

Let's face it, it's spring, the racing season in Florida. Maybe he national movement to de-fend the police hit here also ? Not enough to keep serious crime down, so no one available to stop the madness (yes, everyday it's nearly unbelievable on all the major arteries, but B.V. REALLY stands out !) One thing I did notice, many speeding and reckless vehicles seem to be driven by service people of every description, from window treatments, decorative blinds, to lawn mowing, appliance repair, furniture delivery people who REGULARLY use BOTH the vehicle AND golf cart lanes... seen them almost hit so many people in golf carts I lost count... and they don't even look back in the side view mirror ! It is truly out of hand here !

[Pairadocs]

Doesn't take rocket science to tell when cars go by you like your standing still!! Thought we come here to retire and relax and take it easy.

Completely agree ! It's amazing to see what is tolerated. I feel that even going 40 is dangerous the way people squeal out, "gunning" it, running right up on your bumper even when you are going 5 mph OVER the limit, they are angry, very very angry. If someone is poking along, going 20 mph, I can understand how that can be frustrating and dangerous, but really, the anger show to those of us "only" going 5 mph OVER the limit is amazing !

[Pairadocs]

good luck on that one

Unfortunately, most of the real "crazies", in the huge trucks, vans, many with tandem trailers LOADED with equipment, literally bouncing up and down like it's going to fly off the double trailers, and the most frightening part... at the high rate of speed they drive, the trailers just swerve back and forth crossing the center line AND the line defining the GOLF CART LANE. I have yet in 18 YEARS seen any of these people pulled over and getting a ticket. I have seen passenger cars, presumably residents, pulled over twice in all those years. Once near the Savannah center, one time near the polo fields... what are the odds that one would only see two people getting tickets in a known "expressway/racetrack, in all those years ! During my career, I saw people getting tickets DAILY on my way to and from work in a medium sized community ! Maybe we need to fund the police (increase) so a few can be assigned to traffic ?

[Pairadocs]

In observing traffic going south on Morse after L.S. the other day, I mentioned to my S.O. how cars here, reminded me of when we'd travel through Chicago back in the day. In all the years we've lived here I don't think those 1st years 13* ago were like they are today. Many folks are moving here from metro areas where speeds like this are common. I agree people NEED to slow down!! Wish the Sheriff's department would begin issuing tickets once again.

You've got that correct ! When we built here very VERY few people from large metro areas of any state, it was really rare to meet folks from major metro areas, but.... I always thought those of us from somewhat rural areas were MORE accustomed to going to going as fast as we pleased due to lack of traffic and long stretches where state troopers were highly unlikely to be assigned. You made me re-think that, maybe large metro dwellers are used to speeding. Off topic.... driving into the "big city" was quite a thrill.. A ballgame and George Diamond's on Wabash for a charcoal grilled filet, the most expensive on he menu... $5 or $6, or about the price of ONE HALF a pound of hamburger today. Ain't inflation great ?

[Jokomo]

In which case you could be cited for obstructing traffic and failure to move right when another vehicle wants to pass you. And here's a side question----who appointed you the enforcer of speed limits??????

Probably the same entity that allows you to drive however fast you want. Those are safety statutes. I consider it community service. How do you justify yourself?

[Bill14564]

Probably the same entity that allows you to drive however fast you want. Those are safety statutes. I consider it community service. How do you justify yourself?

Consider it whatever you like, it is still against the law. Quite ironic that your solution to preventing some from breaking a law is to encourage others to break a related law. How do you justify your hypocrisy?

[Wilharm]

and you would be breaking the law too.

What law?

[banjobob]

Good drivers have no problem driving 55 mph , the problems are the “drivers with blinders” not aware of anything beside them or behind them, as always slower traffic in right lane to allow traffic to flow. Driver 101 lesson.

[golfing eagles]

Probably the same entity that allows you to drive however fast you want. Those are safety statutes. I consider it community service. How do you justify yourself?

But I don't drive "as fast as I want", I obey the posted speed limits. However, I am not arrogant enough to propose an illegal method of forcing others to conform to those speed limits, nor am I a LEO wannabee. Remember George Zimmerman????? I would if I were you.

[Bill14564]

What law?

316.081(3) and possibly 316.081(2)

[midiwiz]

Doesn't take rocket science to tell when cars go by you like your standing still!! Thought we come here to retire and relax and take it easy.

LMAO then you were sold a bill of goods..... news alert this really isn't a retirement community over 70% still work. it's a 55+ which is different than retirement

[midiwiz]

Ever notice that turn signals quit working after you cross the Georgia/Florida state line?

that's because GA drivers have beenn conditioned and are anal retentive LOL

[midiwiz]

The police have made it clear that they will not enforce speed limits in The Villages. Maybe the affected community members need to take independent action. One suggestion is to organize “rolling blockades” on both Morse and Buena Vista. 2-4 cars driving exactly the speed limit n formation that blocks passing. The speed limit on Morse north of 466 is 30 mph. All of Buena Vista and Morse south of 466 is 35 mph. A handful of volunteers could accomplish what the police are refusing to do.

now there's a great way to get your A... kicked. go ahead and try it.

[midiwiz]

316.081(3) and possibly 316.081(2)

the context doesn't apply to the comment you originally responded to, you're over-interpreting that law. the basis of 316.081 (which is never enforced in FL) is quite simple -get the &*&^& out of the left hand lane!

[Get real]

What law?

driving slow in the left lane and obstructing traffic

[Get real]

driving slow in the left lane and obstructing traffic

Florida State Statute 316.081 makes it a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a moving violation for any driver to dawdle in the left lane proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic and who doesn’t get out of the way of approaching vehicles.

[Etpjay960]

In Chicago the high speed roads are designated as Expressways, like the Dan Ryan or the Kennedy, etc. If this morning’s traffic is indicative of the norm, Buena Vista Blvd ought to be renamed Buena Vista Expressway. 55 mph southbound approaching Lake Sumter landing. Of course the traffic mimicked the Chicago expressways when it came to a screeching halt and backed up from the wreck at 466A all the way to St. Charles at the St. James roundabout. Holy smokes, folks! Let’s stop driving like Bozos, and keep it down to nine mph over the speed limit.

I worked on the Chicago Expressways for 33 years before retiring 3 years ago and these streets are child’s play compared to Chicago!!! 😂😂
Do agree people need to slow down, I mean what’s your hurry we’re all retired !! 😂

[Bigmo93]

The problem isn’t so much the speed, but rather all the people staring into space instead of watching the road. People don’t stay in their lanes. They drift all over. The circles are a joke. Lane lines in circles don’t appear to be taken as suggestions. Then you get the idiots making a left from the right lane and vice-versa. We have lived many places, including Europe, and The Villages has by far the most incompetent drivers (I use the term “drivers” loosely) I’ve ever seen anywhere.

[DrHitch]

One word of advice (from a Snowbird).

If you even see a glimmer of a vehicle to your LEFT as you approach a roundabout....then STOP...STOP..

Only enter the roundabout if there is NO TRAFFIC to your left. .it's maddening fast

[golfing eagles]

One word of advice (from a Snowbird).

If you even see a glimmer of a vehicle to your LEFT as you approach a roundabout....then STOP...STOP..

Only enter the roundabout if there is NO TRAFFIC to your left. .it's maddening fast

Hmmm......

Advocating coming to a dead stop at a yield sign with no oncoming traffic in the RB, only a car to your left......how many times have you been rear-ended????? If none, it's only a matter of time......

[fdpaq0580]

driving slow in the left lane and obstructing traffic

Slow and fast are only relevant to each other.

[golfing eagles]

Slow and fast are only relevant to each other.

Actually, in the context being discussed, they are relative to the posted speed limit

[fdpaq0580]

Actually, in the context being discussed, they are relative to the posted speed limit

Faster and slower, above or below the posted speed limit. Posted speed limit may become irrelevant due to traffic, road or weather conditions.

[shut the front door]

Hmmm......

Advocating coming to a dead stop at a yield sign with no oncoming traffic in the RB, only a car to your left......how many times have you been rear-ended????? If none, it's only a matter of time......

I think I've been behind this guy. A LOT.

[PugMom]

Ever notice that turn signals quit working after you cross the Georgia/Florida state line?

i'm convinced some cars are not equipped with any, ;)

[JMintzer]

i'm convinced some cars are not equipped with any, ;)

No, they just forgot to change their "blinker fluid"...

[fdpaq0580]

Hmmm......

Advocating coming to a dead stop at a yield sign with no oncoming traffic in the RB, only a car to your left......how many times have you been rear-ended????? If none, it's only a matter of time......

Speeders, tailgaters, texters, people not driving defensively or paying attention do rear-end more safe and cautious drivers then the other way around. If you have a vehicle on your left, it is possible that your vision may be blocked. Don't go if you can't see. If you should get rear-ended, that jerk is in deep doodoo.