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margaretmattson
08-03-2023, 11:49 PM
I took a drive through Middleton. It seems like the home construction and home buying are stagnant. I saw very few residents at the park and on the walking trail. Seems like a ghost town. But, the apartment buildings and Beaumont look to be nearly sold out. I don't get it! Do you think maintenance-free living is the reason? Prices of homes too high? Do they have to pay a bond in Middleton? No interest in frame house construction? Or, just my imagination?
pikeselectric
08-04-2023, 06:10 AM
Hi there! We have received a few calls from newly moved in residents in Middleton. Feedback I have received so far is they love it, but I am curious if people are waiting out the construction to get further along before considering it to move into. Interested to see how the new school is! Some of the models offered are block construction (Fast Break, Kick Line, etc.) The model names are fun! We have enjoyed being part of the construction as one of the most prominent electrical contractors in the area :) - Casandra with Pike's Electric
Rainger99
08-04-2023, 06:59 AM
I took a drive through Middleton. It seems like the home construction and home buying are stagnant. I saw very few residents at the park and on the walking trail. Seems like a ghost town. But, the apartment buildings and Beaumont look to be nearly sold out. I don't get it! Do you think maintenance-free living is the reason? Prices of homes too high? Do they have to pay a bond in Middleton? No interest in frame house construction? Or, just my imagination?
The houses look nice. However, the prices are quite high especially with the current interest rates.
If you add in taxes and insurance, most people in their 20s and 30s cannot afford buying there.
Is the Villages’ bank giving out preferred mortgages?
Michael 61
08-04-2023, 07:43 AM
Here’s my understanding (and please correct me if I’m wrong) - Middleton is being built for the families of people who work within the confines of The Villages. It is not open to families where both parents work outside of The Villages. Though there are some decent paying jobs for workers within The Villages, I would guess most service-level workers within The Villages do not earn enough to qualify to secure and make the necessary mortgage payments to live in Middleton. Those earning minimum or slightly above minimum wage will probably need to continue to rent at apartments slightly outside the bubble.
I am sure the developer did a lot of research into who would be their “target” buyer within Middleton, and thus building homes they feel will sell to this audience, I was just thinking that Middleton will only offer housing to just a certain segment of the overall Villages workforce. Curious what is the size of that segment?
Normal
08-04-2023, 08:01 AM
I’m glad to hear some have moved in, but just because we see 300 roofs doesn’t mean 300 homes are ready for occupancy. The build out does take some time.
polaris
08-04-2023, 08:53 AM
Anyone can buy in Middleton regardless of where they work. However, one of the parents must work for The Villages in order for their children to attend the schools.
rustyp
08-04-2023, 09:40 AM
Here’s my understanding (and please correct me if I’m wrong) - Middleton is being built for the families of people who work within the confines of The Villages. It is not open to families where both parents work outside of The Villages. Though there are some decent paying jobs for workers within The Villages, I would guess most service-level workers within The Villages do not earn enough to qualify to secure and make the necessary mortgage payments to live in Middleton. Those earning minimum or slightly above minimum wage will probably need to continue to rent at apartments slightly outside the bubble.
I am sure the developer did a lot of research into who would be their “target” buyer within Middleton, and thus building homes they feel will sell to this audience, I was just thinking that Middleton will only offer housing to just a certain segment of the overall Villages workforce. Curious what is the size of that segment?
What if the person/s that own the house decide to no longer work for The Villages - will they have to sell ? Is there a time frame before "eviction" ? Do they get to set the selling price ? etc I thought I read somewhere anyone can buy in Middleton. It is simply removing the age restriction requirement. A good example is a grandparent as a custodian of a grandchild under 19 yrs old.
Michael 61
08-04-2023, 10:18 AM
What if the person/s that own the house decide to no longer work for The Villages - will they have to sell ? Is there a time frame before "eviction" ? Do they get to set the selling price ? etc I thought I read somewhere anyone can buy in Middleton. It is simply removing the age restriction requirement. A good example is a grandparent as a custodian of a grandchild under 19 yrs old.
All good questions, and I’m sure many more questions will arise about Middleton. Will they have deed restrictions (my guess is yes), and if so, how will they read, and how will they differ from the other deeds restrictions within the other CDDs? Time will tell.
shut the front door
08-04-2023, 10:44 AM
What if the person/s that own the house decide to no longer work for The Villages - will they have to sell ? Is there a time frame before "eviction" ? Do they get to set the selling price ? etc I thought I read somewhere anyone can buy in Middleton. It is simply removing the age restriction requirement. A good example is a grandparent as a custodian of a grandchild under 19 yrs old.
The scenario won't happen because you don't have to work for TV to buy there.
As stated in the post above, anyone can buy there.
Kelevision
08-04-2023, 10:54 AM
currently there are only 7 spec houses available. They’ve been selling. I’m always on their website looking at the houses. It’s easy to see what’s selling and what’s not on their website. Under search for homes.
Babubhat
08-04-2023, 12:46 PM
Just check the tax assessor website
Bogie Shooter
08-04-2023, 12:53 PM
Anyone can buy in Middleton regardless of where they work. However, one of the parents must work for The Villages in order for their children to attend the schools.
More than just working “ for the Villages”.
The Villages of Lake-Sumter, Inc. as a business partnership charter school primarily for the benefit of the children of employees of The Villages of Lake-Sumter, Inc. and those Business Partners who have in the past and continue to participate in the development of The Villages.
Source, The Villages Charter School, web site.
Altavia
08-04-2023, 12:55 PM
currently there are only 7 spec houses available. They’ve been selling. I’m always on their website looking at the houses. It’s easy to see what’s selling and what’s not on their website. Under search for homes.
People can see what's available here along with the cost:
(Click on the map in the circle on the lower right)
Homefinder - Middleton (https://mymiddleton.com/homefinder/#/homes/SG9tZWZpbmRlcgpkUzFNLjE5MA==)
Altavia
08-04-2023, 01:05 PM
All good questions, and I’m sure many more questions will arise about Middleton. Will they have deed restrictions (my guess is yes), and if so, how will they read, and how will they differ from the other deeds restrictions within the other CDDs? Time will tell.
The operational requirements are the same as in the age restricted Villages: bond, amenity fees, deed restrictions, taxes, etc.
Lifestyle - Middleton (https://mymiddleton.com/lifestyle/)
Dond1959
08-04-2023, 01:11 PM
I have been through the neighborhood on a couple of Sundays. When we were there the open houses were slammed with people looking. There were good crowds at the pool both times and obviously people who have moved in. It does seem the developer is taking their time and more vacant lots in a neighborhood than what we see in the 55+ neighborhoods. I am sure the developer knows what they are doing and have done extensive research in what the families want. This is a big change for the developer and it probably makes sense to take their time.
Marathon Man
08-04-2023, 01:27 PM
More "hoping the south fails" comments. Too funny. The southern areas continue to grow. Sorry to disappoint some of you.
Bogie Shooter
08-04-2023, 01:58 PM
I have been through the neighborhood on a couple of Sundays. When we were there the open houses were slammed with people looking. There were good crowds at the pool both times and obviously people who have moved in. It does seem the developer is taking their time and more vacant lots in a neighborhood than what we see in the 55+ neighborhoods. I am sure the developer knows what they are doing and have done extensive research in what the families want. This is a big change for the developer and it probably makes sense to take their time.
The Developer has built family villages before……
Altavia
08-04-2023, 02:08 PM
The Developer has built family villages before……
Hard to imagine it not being successful with adding three, walkable, beautiful charter schools, plus a commercial area, and golf cart connectivity to golf, Eastport, Sawgrass and the rest of the Villages.
margaretmattson
08-04-2023, 02:28 PM
I have been through the neighborhood on a couple of Sundays. When we were there the open houses were slammed with people looking. There were good crowds at the pool both times and obviously people who have moved in. It does seem the developer is taking their time and more vacant lots in a neighborhood than what we see in the 55+ neighborhoods. I am sure the developer knows what they are doing and have done extensive research in what the families want. This is a big change for the developer and it probably makes sense to take their time. Maybe that's it! I should go over on a weekend day.
asianthree
08-04-2023, 02:56 PM
All good questions, and I’m sure many more questions will arise about Middleton. Will they have deed restrictions (my guess is yes), and if so, how will they read, and how will they differ from the other deeds restrictions within the other CDDs? Time will tell.
No questions about Middleton, it’s very straightforward. Anyone can buy a home in Middleton. There is a bond, and like any other village will have restrictions, might not be the same as others, but something is in place.
If you choose for your children to go to Villages Charter school, you must be employed by a business that has holds that perk. If you choose to leave that job, then your child will no longer be allowed to continue their education. Middleton is not age restricted, so say grandparents don’t want amenities they could choose to live next door to their children and grandchildren. Believe it or not there are many in TV who don’t golf, go to the pools, join clubs, or even drive golf carts. Yet they still move here pay amenities and don’t use them. We have met multiple households that live in family areas, and are very happy to live without amenities. Yes there are kids in the neighborhood, and they love it, and continue to be happy
Dond1959
08-04-2023, 03:38 PM
The Developer has built family villages before……
Nothing on the scale of Middleton with school, commercial areas, and a lot of housing. This is new even for them.
Bogie Shooter
08-04-2023, 05:03 PM
Nothing on the scale of Middleton with school, commercial areas, and a lot of housing. This is new even for them.
The discussion was houses.
GatorFan
08-04-2023, 07:40 PM
I have family that is having home built now. Will be ready in November. School starts this coming week. I think I read over 5000 students maybe more will be attending The Villages Charter Schools.
margaretmattson
08-04-2023, 07:54 PM
I have family that is having home built now. Will be ready in November. School starts this coming week. I think I read over 5000 students maybe more will be attending The Villages Charter Schools. Good to know! Maybe it is as you say, your family members are having a home built. Perhaps, quite a bit of buyers are choosing to customize and have their homes built. Very few spec houses. That would explain what I saw when I took a drive. Hope each of them are happy in their new homes!
Goldwingnut
08-04-2023, 09:09 PM
They are selling well in Middleton, but it is also a different market and target demographic so the volume and rate of homes being sold is not close to what is seen in the Age Restricted part of The Villages. Looking at the homes and prices they appear to be about 20-30% cheaper than in the AR part of TV, but then they are also not buying the same lifestyle. Looking around the state, the prices are comparable to many areas.
You don't have to work for The Villages or one of the designated companies to buy and live there, only to go to the schools. Interestingly a few weeks ago I was in one of the open houses looking around (very nice features in the homes!) and as always had my ears tuned into the conversations that were happening. One younger couple (mid-30's) was discussing the schools with the sales rep and how to get their children enrolled. They were directed to the charter school website and Villages website for information on companies that qualified. The couple wanted to get their children in the Charter schools because of their reputation and were going to relocate from the Orlando area to Middleton if she could find eligible employment and her would commute to Orlando daily and keep his apparently well-paying job. After the couple left, I started talking with the sales agent about the home and then and asked them about the young couple. Their scenario is apparently one the sales agents have been hearing frequently in the past few months and is helping to drive sales.
One has to wonder, did the developer anticipate this growth avenue and plan for it, and if they have, is this a new market they are developing? With over 8,000 family homes planned for Middleton plus the family homes in Coleman Ridge, it does seem a possibility.
Goldwingnut
08-04-2023, 09:13 PM
I have family that is having home built now. Will be ready in November. School starts this coming week. I think I read over 5000 students maybe more will be attending The Villages Charter Schools.
The Charter school system capacity is being nearly doubled with the new school additions to over 6000 students, the existing schools were at capacity (about 3400) with a wait list for openings, while attendance is going up this year as the backlog is being cleared out, it will not be near 5000 students. Yet.
Woodbear
08-05-2023, 12:30 AM
The operational requirements are the same as in the age restricted Villages: bond, amenity fees, deed restrictions, taxes, etc.
Lifestyle - Middleton (https://mymiddleton.com/lifestyle/)
There is no amenity fee for residents
sdeikenberry
08-05-2023, 05:17 AM
[QUOTE=Michael 61;2241518]Here’s my understanding (and please correct me if I’m wrong) - Middleton is being built for the families of people who work within the confines of The Villages. It is not open to families where both parents work outside of The Villages.
We were there last Sunday and attended a couple open houses for sale. Both realtors told us anyone can purchase those homes whether they work in TV or not. But if they want their children to attend TV charter schools, they must work for TV.
Rwirish
08-05-2023, 05:24 AM
They are selling and selling quickly.
hosegooseman
08-05-2023, 05:25 AM
Here’s my understanding (and please correct me if I’m wrong) - Middleton is being built for the families of people who work within the confines of The Villages. It is not open to families where both parents work outside of The Villages. Though there are some decent paying jobs for workers within The Villages, I would guess most service-level workers within The Villages do not earn enough to qualify to secure and make the necessary mortgage payments to live in Middleton. Those earning minimum or slightly above minimum wage will probably need to continue to rent at apartments slightly outside the bubble.
I am sure the developer did a lot of research into who would be their “target” buyer within Middleton, and thus building homes they feel will sell to this audience, I was just thinking that Middleton will only offer housing to just a certain segment of the overall Villages workforce. Curious what is the size of that segment?
Middleton is open to anyone, even if both parents don’t work in The Villages at all. My son was looking to buy there but bought somewhere else.
The main issue is that the schools (very nice by the way), required that at least one of the parents, work in The Villages. If unable, then the kid(s) need to go to a county/town designated school.
In terms of pricing, I think homes are reasonable in Middleton, comparing with other areas. When my son was looking there a few months ago, they had models starting out around $190K and up.
bowlingal
08-05-2023, 05:36 AM
don't forget the bond payment
westernrider75
08-05-2023, 05:38 AM
What if the person/s that own the house decide to no longer work for The Villages - will they have to sell ? Is there a time frame before "eviction" ? Do they get to set the selling price ? etc I thought I read somewhere anyone can buy in Middleton. It is simply removing the age restriction requirement. A good example is a grandparent as a custodian of a grandchild under 19 yrs old.
Anyone can buy there, they don’t have to work for the Villages, that is simply a charter school restriction.
westernrider75
08-05-2023, 05:41 AM
All good questions, and I’m sure many more questions will arise about Middleton. Will they have deed restrictions (my guess is yes), and if so, how will they read, and how will they differ from the other deeds restrictions within the other CDDs? Time will tell.
They do have deed restrictions, however I’m not exactly sure how they read. I do know they are allowed to fence their back yards with a choice of 3 fence styles/colors.
Papa_lecki
08-05-2023, 05:57 AM
The Charter school system capacity is being nearly doubled with the new school additions to over 6000 students, the existing schools were at capacity (about 3400) with a wait list for openings, while attendance is going up this year as the backlog is being cleared out, it will not be near 5000 students. Yet.
A fee years ago, tech jobs passed tourism as the number 1 employer in the greater Orlando area. Tech jobs means highly educated workforce, higher salaries. That also drives up home prices.
The homes in Middleton will sell just fine, especially if one spouse gets a job that’s charter school eligible.
GWN is correct, the sales cycle is slower for 30/40 year olds, than retired folks, who have more flexibility. Younger families have to think about school, friends, kids, kids activities, packing a house, etc.
mrf0151
08-05-2023, 05:59 AM
Is it called Middleton because someday this will be the middle of The Villages?
Altavia
08-05-2023, 06:04 AM
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One has to wonder, did the developer anticipate this growth avenue and plan for it, and if they have, is this a new market they are developing? With over 8,000 family homes planned for Middleton plus the family homes in Coleman Ridge, it does seem a possibility.
Hard to imagine anyone other than The Villages able to do the planning and execution to make the community a reality.
In some ways, this seems like original vision of Disney's Celebration community but better.
Will be interesting to see how the dynamic of The Villages changes with this influx of families, especially around Eastport.
Any idea if the Middleton development construction rate is incremental to the 55+ areas or is this being done with resources diverted from the that side of the business?
GizmoWhiskers
08-05-2023, 06:09 AM
[QUOTE=Michael 61;2241518]Here’s my understanding (and please correct me if I’m wrong) - Middleton is being built for the families of people who work within the confines of The Villages. It is not open to families where both parents work outside of The Villages.
We were there last Sunday and attended a couple open houses for sale. Both realtors told us anyone can purchase those homes whether they work in TV or not. But if they want their children to attend TV charter schools, they must work for TV.
An over 55, non-working, no kids friend went with a Villages realtor to look at lots to build/purchase a villa style home in Middleton. Prices in Middleton were very low at first. A couple lots were basically free at one point He could have done so as I believe was told a certain % over 55 can purchase. Same as in the over 55 areas for under 55. Federal laws maybe(?)
Bill14564
08-05-2023, 06:10 AM
don't forget the bond payment
Is there a bond in Middleton? EDIT: Found an answer.
Some documents from an early Middleton CDD board meeting included a resolution to authorize bond issuance. There will be a bond.
Altavia
08-05-2023, 06:27 AM
There is no amenity fee for residents
The financial details establishing the Middleton developer district are here. Looks like Maintenance assessments are covered on page 24.
https://www.districtgov.org/PDFView/PDFMeeting.aspx?id=20230112ma0201
RCMill531@comcast.net
08-05-2023, 07:42 AM
I am an appraiser and have done some appraisals there. They are having open houses today.
Regorp
08-05-2023, 08:21 AM
I took a drive through Middleton. It seems like the home construction and home buying are stagnant. I saw very few residents at the park and on the walking trail. Seems like a ghost town. But, the apartment buildings and Beaumont look to be nearly sold out. I don't get it! Do you think maintenance-free living is the reason? Prices of homes too high? Do they have to pay a bond in Middleton? No interest in frame house construction? Or, just my imagination?
Our son moved to TV with us intending to buy his own house, so our sales agent helped him to a beautiful new home in Middleton. Moving in this month and many neighbors are moving in now as well. He tells his Ct friends, they built a town for me.
Smiley Services
08-05-2023, 08:22 AM
I have met new home owners in Middleton that do not work for, or within the Villages.... makes me wonder if anyone one can move in.....
Egandi
08-05-2023, 08:28 AM
Anyone can purchase a home in Middleton. The owners do not have to work for The Villages to own and/or live there. However, if those who live in Middleton want their children to attend the Charter School, then they must work for The Villages, work for a company affiliated with The Villages (there is a list of companies), or own their own business in The Villages.
Kelevision
08-05-2023, 08:43 AM
I have met new home owners in Middleton that do not work for, or within the Villages.... makes me wonder if anyone one can move in.....
Anyone can move in
kendi
08-05-2023, 08:46 AM
Here’s my understanding (and please correct me if I’m wrong) - Middleton is being built for the families of people who work within the confines of The Villages. It is not open to families where both parents work outside of The Villages. Though there are some decent paying jobs for workers within The Villages, I would guess most service-level workers within The Villages do not earn enough to qualify to secure and make the necessary mortgage payments to live in Middleton. Those earning minimum or slightly above minimum wage will probably need to continue to rent at apartments slightly outside the bubble.
I am sure the developer did a lot of research into who would be their “target” buyer within Middleton, and thus building homes they feel will sell to this audience, I was just thinking that Middleton will only offer housing to just a certain segment of the overall Villages workforce. Curious what is the size of that segment?
Actually anyone can buy in Middleton. It’s only the schools that are restricted to children whose parents work in TV. Learned this from our realtor.
srswans
08-05-2023, 09:36 AM
[QUOTE=Rainger99;2241494]The houses look nice. However, the prices are quite high especially with the current interest rates.
…/QUOTE]
Houses start under $200K so you’d only need a $35K salary, with 20% down (see parents) to get a 6% mortgage. That’s not much above the poverty level. $45K would even be more comfortable.
What do teachers make at the charter school? What does a full time server make at TV restaurant? What does an electrician make in TV?
It appears to me that the houses are priced reasonably.
Bill14564
08-05-2023, 09:40 AM
[QUOTE=Rainger99;2241494]The houses look nice. However, the prices are quite high especially with the current interest rates.
…/QUOTE]
Houses start under $200K so you’d only need a $35K salary, with 20% down (see parents) to get a 6% mortgage. That’s not much above the poverty level. $45K would even be more comfortable.
What do teachers make at the charter school? What does a full time server make at TV restaurant? What does an electrician make in TV?
It appears to me that the houses are priced reasonably.
According to the Villages Homefinder for Middleton (link provided on page 1), the least expensive house available today is $245K. Perhaps the less expensive houses have already sold or maybe more will become available as the buildout continues.
The site does show there are floor plans that can be built for under $200K.
Michael 61
08-05-2023, 09:55 AM
I haven’t been down to Central Parkway or Middleton in a few months - I see a field trip this weekend, as I also want to traverse the Southern Oaks bridge.
Karmanng
08-05-2023, 10:00 AM
What if the person/s that own the house decide to no longer work for The Villages - will they have to sell ? Is there a time frame before "eviction" ? Do they get to set the selling price ? etc I thought I read somewhere anyone can buy in Middleton. It is simply removing the age restriction requirement. A good example is a grandparent as a custodian of a grandchild under 19 yrs old.
ANYBODY of ANY AGE can buy in there............including all of us......
Altavia
08-05-2023, 12:26 PM
The streets are full of cars and open houses are well attended.
They are some some truly innovative/ beautiful designs, perfect for families.
Kelevision
08-05-2023, 01:27 PM
[QUOTE=srswans;2241917]
According to the Villages Homefinder for Middleton (link provided on page 1), the least expensive house available today is $245K. Perhaps the less expensive houses have already sold or maybe more will become available as the buildout continues.
The site does show there are floor plans that can be built for under $200K.
I’m not sure about where it’s listed or if that’s no longer the case but i do personally know someone who bought there months ago and doesn’t close until the end of this month. His was under 200k. I have no other details other than it’s a 2 bed/2bath
RUCdaze
08-05-2023, 01:32 PM
Is anyone who bought a home, in any area, going to tell you they made a mistake??? Of course they will tell you they love it! In fact, they love it so much that they will only sell it to you if the price is right. Make an offer.
HIgolfers
08-05-2023, 01:59 PM
They are selling well in Middleton, but it is also a different market and target demographic so the volume and rate of homes being sold is not close to what is seen in the Age Restricted part of The Villages. Looking at the homes and prices they appear to be about 20-30% cheaper than in the AR part of TV, but then they are also not buying the same lifestyle. Looking around the state, the prices are comparable to many areas.
You don't have to work for The Villages or one of the designated companies to buy and live there, only to go to the schools. Interestingly a few weeks ago I was in one of the open houses looking around (very nice features in the homes!) and as always had my ears tuned into the conversations that were happening. One younger couple (mid-30's) was discussing the schools with the sales rep and how to get their children enrolled. They were directed to the charter school website and Villages website for information on companies that qualified. The couple wanted to get their children in the Charter schools because of their reputation and were going to relocate from the Orlando area to Middleton if she could find eligible employment and her would commute to Orlando daily and keep his apparently well-paying job. After the couple left, I started talking with the sales agent about the home and then and asked them about the young couple. Their scenario is apparently one the sales agents have been hearing frequently in the past few months and is helping to drive sales.
One has to wonder, did the developer anticipate this growth avenue and plan for it, and if they have, is this a new market they are developing? With over 8,000 family homes planned for Middleton plus the family homes in Coleman Ridge, it does seem a possibility.
Was down there today visiting open houses (recovering from surgery so cant golf!). Agree with Goldwingnut on prices. I’m no RE expert but they looked like good value to me and many young folks looking. No amenity fee. There will be 4 pools (one open now) in that area which I think is Phases 1 and 2. Lots of different style houses which is nice. School complex looks incredible as others have pointed out. A Jumbotron? My FBS alma mater didn’t have a Jumbotron until a few years when an alumni class donated it! Pretty impressive.
The only possible drawback I see for families is if kids are not eligible for charter schools I’m not sure the public schools in Wildwood are what I would want for my grandkids. (TV sales agent said that is the public school for that area).
Michael 61
08-05-2023, 02:42 PM
I was down in Middleton as well today touring the models - gorgeous homes - quite a few young families looking as well - Middleton is a great community and a welcome addition to The Villages - If I was still working and under 55, I would move there in a heartbeat to get a “jump start” on a semi-Villages lifestyle.
JMintzer
08-05-2023, 03:12 PM
Is anyone who bought a home, in any area, going to tell you they made a mistake??? Of course they will tell you they love it! In fact, they love it so much that they will only sell it to you if the price is right. Make an offer.
You're kidding, right?
There are PLENTY of folks on this Forum who do nothing but complain about moving here and can't wait until they can get out...
They post over and over and over and over...
asianthree
08-05-2023, 05:11 PM
Is anyone who bought a home, in any area, going to tell you they made a mistake??? Of course they will tell you they love it! In fact, they love it so much that they will only sell it to you if the price is right. Make an offer.
You do realize many buy investment homes, never live in them, then sell 1year, 1 day later to make an easy profit.
I am guessing you may have moved here and not happy because you didn’t spend enough due diligence prior to signing. Or did you move because of spouse pressures and couldn’t speak up
phousel
08-06-2023, 04:58 AM
Nothing on the scale of Middleton with school, commercial areas, and a lot of housing. This is new even for them.
There are a couple of "family" developments a short distance from the current high school on 466.
Not directly connected (via golf cart) to The Villages.
jimkerr
08-06-2023, 06:30 AM
Here’s my understanding (and please correct me if I’m wrong) - Middleton is being built for the families of people who work within the confines of The Villages. It is not open to families where both parents work outside of The Villages. Though there are some decent paying jobs for workers within The Villages, I would guess most service-level workers within The Villages do not earn enough to qualify to secure and make the necessary mortgage payments to live in Middleton. Those earning minimum or slightly above minimum wage will probably need to continue to rent at apartments slightly outside the bubble.
I am sure the developer did a lot of research into who would be their “target” buyer within Middleton, and thus building homes they feel will sell to this audience, I was just thinking that Middleton will only offer housing to just a certain segment of the overall Villages workforce. Curious what is the size of that segment?
No, anyone can purchase in Middleton. If it was restricted to people who only work in the villages, they’d never be able to afford the homes.
JMintzer
08-06-2023, 06:35 AM
No, anyone can purchase in Middleton. If it was restricted to people who only work in the villages, they’d never be able to afford the homes.
Tell me you didn't read the thread without telling me you didn't read the thread...
mrf0151
08-06-2023, 08:28 AM
The houses look nice. However, the prices are quite high especially with the current interest rates.
If you add in taxes and insurance, most people in their 20s and 30s cannot afford buying there.
Is the Villages’ bank giving out preferred mortgages?
Not to mention the $40K bond price and monstrous lot premiums for open space.
Flyers999
08-06-2023, 02:13 PM
Our son moved to TV with us intending to buy his own house, so our sales agent helped him to a beautiful new home in Middleton. Moving in this month and many neighbors are moving in now as well. He tells his Ct friends, they built a town for me.
Will your son be able to play TV executive courses if he's not paying the amenity fee?
Flyers999
08-06-2023, 02:17 PM
I was down in Middleton as well today touring the models - gorgeous homes - quite a few young families looking as well - Middleton is a great community and a welcome addition to The Villages - If I was still working and under 55, I would move there in a heartbeat to get a “jump start” on a semi-Villages lifestyle.
But what would you do for recreation? You'd be living in the middle of nowhere unable to use any of TV amenities.
Michael 61
08-06-2023, 02:55 PM
But what would you do for recreation? You'd be living in the middle of nowhere unable to use any of TV amenities.
Well, won’t be the “middle of nowhere” in a few short years. There are lots of things planned for Middleton - true you wouldn’t have access to the golf courses, clubs and pickleball courts within The Villages, but you would have golf cart access to the town squares, walking trails, restaurants, plus performances at the Sharon and Savannah - that’s why I said “semi” Villages experience - would be a great “intro” to some of The Villages experiences before turning 55, and then later gaining access to everything, once you moved into the “regular” 55+ villages once you turned 55. I think Middleton is great for those in that target “demographic” - plus if they have school-aged kids that qualify to attend the charter schools, they’ll be getting an A+ education.
JSR22
08-06-2023, 03:27 PM
Well, won’t be the “middle of nowhere” in a few short years. There are lots of things planned for Middleton - true you wouldn’t have access to the golf courses, clubs and pickleball courts within The Villages, but you would have golf cart access to the town squares, walking trails, restaurants, plus performances at the Sharon and Savannah - that’s why I said “semi” Villages experience - would be a great “intro” to some of The Villages experiences before turning 55, and then later gaining access to everything, once you moved into the “regular” 55+ villages once you turned 55. I think Middleton is great for those in that target “demographic” - plus if they have school-aged kids that qualify to attend the charter schools, they’ll be getting an A+ education.
Moving into Middleton does not give access to the Charter School. One parent must work or own a business in TV.
Michael 61
08-06-2023, 03:47 PM
Moving into Middleton does not give access to the Charter School. One parent must work or own a business in TV.
Yep - that why I said “if”
Bogie Shooter
08-06-2023, 03:49 PM
Well, won’t be the “middle of nowhere” in a few short years. There are lots of things planned for Middleton - true you wouldn’t have access to the golf courses, clubs and pickleball courts within The Villages, but you would have golf cart access to the town squares, walking trails, restaurants, plus performances at the Sharon and Savannah - that’s why I said “semi” Villages experience - would be a great “intro” to some of The Villages experiences before turning 55, and then later gaining access to everything, once you moved into the “regular” 55+ villages once you turned 55. I think Middleton is great for those in that target “demographic” - plus if they have school-aged kids that qualify to attend the charter schools, they’ll be getting an A+ education.
Moving into Middleton does not give access to the Charter School. One parent must work or own a business in TV.
Reread the last sentence………
Flyers999
08-06-2023, 05:30 PM
Well, won’t be the “middle of nowhere” in a few short years. There are lots of things planned for Middleton - true you wouldn’t have access to the golf courses, clubs and pickleball courts within The Villages, but you would have golf cart access to the town squares, walking trails, restaurants, plus performances at the Sharon and Savannah - that’s why I said “semi” Villages experience - would be a great “intro” to some of The Villages experiences before turning 55, and then later gaining access to everything, once you moved into the “regular” 55+ villages once you turned 55. I think Middleton is great for those in that target “demographic” - plus if they have school-aged kids that qualify to attend the charter schools, they’ll be getting an A+ education.
True. You would also have access to the championship courses. In fact, if you plan to only play the championship, it almost makes sense to move there because most of the ametity fee goes toward maintaining the executives. Even if you are over 55. Hhhmmmmm
JMintzer
08-06-2023, 06:46 PM
Will your son be able to play TV executive courses if he's not paying the amenity fee?
No. Not even as a guest, as guests have to live a certain distance away in order to receive a guest pass...
"Guests of Villages’ residents whose home address is outside Lake, Sumter and Marion counties are eligible to use selected Villages’ resident amenity-supported recreational facilities. An original Villages guest ID card is required for all guests 1 year of age and older."
EDIT TO ADD: "A resident who has a son, daughter, grandchild or great grandchild (and their spouses) who reside in Lake, Marion or Sumter counties may apply for an in-area guest ID card.
The in-area guest ID card for qualified family members is valid for one year from date of issuance."
JMintzer
08-06-2023, 06:48 PM
But what would you do for recreation? You'd be living in the middle of nowhere unable to use any of TV amenities.
Championship courses are available, as are the local public courses...
Middleton with have it's own pools, tennis/pickleball courts, as well...
Bill14564
08-06-2023, 07:01 PM
No. Not even as a guest, as guests have to live a certain distance away in order to receive a guest pass...
"Guests of Villages’ residents whose home address is outside Lake, Sumter and Marion counties are eligible to use selected Villages’ resident amenity-supported recreational facilities. An original Villages guest ID card is required for all guests 1 year of age and older."
Family members can get an in-area guest pass
JMintzer
08-06-2023, 07:30 PM
Family members can get an in-area guest pass
You are correct. I missed that part. The "family member" passes are good for 1 year...
Thanks for the correction!
rogerk
08-06-2023, 09:22 PM
There are 4 other family friendly communities in The Villages, built by The Villages builders. This is definitely not the first!
Kelevision
08-07-2023, 05:36 AM
But what would you do for recreation? You'd be living in the middle of nowhere unable to use any of TV amenities.
Getting to disney world/MCO in under an hour is hardly the middle of nowhere. Lol Not to mention Middleton will have their own downtown area and will be really close to Eastport. I don’t think Middleton residents will care too much about no being able to play golf with the Villagers. They’ll have everything they need within walking distance. They’re young, remember.
Kelevision
08-07-2023, 05:39 AM
There are 4 other family friendly communities in The Villages, built by The Villages builders. This is definitely not the first!
Those are different. Employees of TV have areas they can build houses but they aren’t their own little towns.
vinricci
08-07-2023, 06:57 AM
If no amenity fees how are the pools main?
Bogie Shooter
08-07-2023, 07:06 AM
If no amenity fees how are the pools main?
Cake raffles!
asianthree
08-07-2023, 07:29 PM
2 of the homes in Middleton we wanted to look at are pending. Close to $800,000 so upper priced homes are selling.
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