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Coop63
03-16-2024, 09:20 AM
Anyone know how this ended?
A kidnapping suspect who barricaded himself in a home in The Villages on Friday had been arrested in 2023 after jealous harassment of a woman in the Village of Chatham.
James Savage, 54, was the subject of a manhunt on Friday after allegedly forcing a woman into a Mercedes in the Village of Monarch Grove. The woman was later found safe and Savage barricaded himself in a home on Belhaven Loop in the Village of Chatham, prompting a lengthy standoff with Marion County sheriff’s deputies.
Savage had been arrested last year after harassing a woman who lives on Belhaven Loop.
More on Villages news website
UsuallyLurking
03-16-2024, 09:24 AM
As of earlier this morning (around 9), it hadn't ended. Legacy Lane was still being blocked by Marion County sheriffs around this site of the barricaded house.
Two Bills
03-16-2024, 11:53 AM
""After nearly 24 hours of negotiations, a 54-year-old man accused of attacking and kidnapping a woman from a home in The Villages has “peacefully” surrendered to law enforcement authorities""
Source. The unmentionable site.
fdpaq0580
03-16-2024, 12:08 PM
Sounds like someone needs a hug ----- or a lobotomy.
🤕
Number 10 GI
03-16-2024, 12:25 PM
Sounds like someone needs a hug ----- or a lobotomy.
🤕
A lobotomy would guarantee no more problems.
margaretmattson
03-16-2024, 01:06 PM
A lobotomy would guarantee no more problems.Lobotomy? How about simple lessons on how to treat people you love? I saw the footage at the time of the kidnapping and instantly gave my wonderful hubby a hug. We then had a discussion regarding the age people should know better. I pray the woman is able to put this behind her and move on.
Dusty_Star
03-16-2024, 01:19 PM
Pleasant fellow. As the video warns: explicit language
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Dusty_Star
03-16-2024, 01:20 PM
Pleasant fellow. As the video warns: explicit language
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Ignore the 'logon to Facebook' message, it will give you a chance to X out of logon & see the video.
Good reason to get security cameras
kcrazorbackfan
03-16-2024, 01:28 PM
And it took MCSO 24hrs of peacefully negotiating to get the perp to surrender; our negotiations when I was a State Trooper rarely lasted 2 hrs; i guess it’s a newer, kinder way. 👎
Shipping up to Boston
03-16-2024, 01:34 PM
Sounds like someone needs a hug ----- or a lobotomy.
🤕
Thank you Mr. McMurphy
JMintzer
03-16-2024, 03:00 PM
Lobotomy? How about simple lessons on how to treat people you love? I saw the footage at the time of the kidnapping and instantly gave my wonderful hubby a hug. We then had a discussion regarding the age people should know better. I pray the woman is able to put this behind her and move on.
Maybe it's me, but the "gentleman" didn't seem to be in the mood for a "teachable moment"...
He's lucky none of the many former LEOs in TV saw what happened. He may have died from "acute lead poisoning"...
Dusty_Star
03-16-2024, 03:06 PM
Maybe it's me, but the "gentleman" didn't seem to be in the mood for a "teachable moment"...
He's lucky none of the many former LEOs in TV saw what happened. He may have died from "acute lead poisoning"...
He may be lucky, but as it seems he is a repeat abuser, I wouldn't say the women who date him (now & in the future) are so lucky.
Shipping up to Boston
03-16-2024, 03:11 PM
He may be lucky, but as it seems he is a repeat abuser, I wouldn't say the women who date him (now & in the future) are so lucky.
Exactly
Just shows that even in ‘Florida’s Friendliest Hometown’....we’re not immune to the underbelly of society!
Dusty_Star
03-16-2024, 03:15 PM
Exactly
Just shows that even in ‘Florida’s Friendliest Hometown’....we’re not immune to the underbelly of society!
Or in some cases (probably a tiny number), we are targeted by the underbelly, relatively well to do widows abound.
Shipping up to Boston
03-16-2024, 03:26 PM
Or in some cases (probably a tiny number), we are targeted by the underbelly, relatively well to do widows abound.
I thought ‘Pension Hunters’ was a reality show about women. I stand corrected! ;)
shut the front door
03-16-2024, 03:56 PM
I don't know who her "friend" is, but she was absolutely useless. She had every opportunity to call 911 or kick him in the jewels. I'm glad I've got friends who would have my back.
Randall55
03-16-2024, 04:12 PM
I don't know who her "friend" is, but she was absolutely useless. She had every opportunity to call 911 or kick him in the jewels. I'm glad I've got friends who would have my back.The only thing you can do in that scenario is call 911. Assault someone and you go to jail. Injure them, you could be sued. The friend should have screamed her head off. I also noticed the next door neighbors' lights did not come on. Maybe, not at home. If I were home, my lights would go on to give the security cameras a better chance of capturing the moment. Without hesitation, I would call 911.
GoRedSox!
03-16-2024, 04:24 PM
I am a tolerant individual, but not for a man who physically abuses a woman like this.
I note that he was Mr. Tough while roughing up a woman, not so much when dealing with the Sheriff. I hope Justice will be meted out.
Dusty_Star
03-16-2024, 04:34 PM
I am a tolerant individual, but not for a man who physically abuses a woman like this.
I note that he was Mr. Tough while roughing up a woman, not so much when dealing with the Sheriff. I hope Justice will be meted out.
Typical coward. Victimizes those less powerful, subservient when dealing with greater power.
Dusty_Star
03-16-2024, 04:38 PM
I don't know who her "friend" is, but she was absolutely useless. She had every opportunity to call 911 or kick him in the jewels. I'm glad I've got friends who would have my back.
1, it happened very fast
2, had she tried to call 911, she would have probably been punched or worse.
3, it was a hard choice, to call 911, she would have had to run away first, to protect herself, if she leaves then she isn't witnessing, & worse might happen.
4, engaging like a kick as you say, was never on the table.
Stu from NYC
03-16-2024, 04:57 PM
Since it had a happy ending can we expect to read about it in the happy paper?
Shipping up to Boston
03-16-2024, 05:18 PM
1, it happened very fast
2, had she tried to call 911, she would have probably been punched or worse.
3, it was a hard choice, to call 911, she would have had to run away first, to protect herself, if she leaves then she isn't witnessing, & worse might happen.
4, engaging like a kick as you say, was never on the table.
5. Never associate with a s*#t bag like that in the first place
shut the front door
03-16-2024, 05:24 PM
The only thing you can do in that scenario is call 911. Assault someone and you go to jail. Injure them, you could be sued. The friend should have screamed her head off. I also noticed the next door neighbors' lights did not come on. Maybe, not at home. If I were home, my lights would go on to give the security cameras a better chance of capturing the moment. Without hesitation, I would call 911.
It's totally understandable that you've never been in law enforcement, but anyone with a lick of sense knows that you can legally assault someone who is in the process of felony kidnapping. Sued? That's hilarious. Anyone can be sued for anything. Unlike many pearl clutchers around here, I don't live my life in fear of being sued, and I'm well aware of the laws here.
Dusty_Star
03-16-2024, 05:31 PM
5. Never associate with a s*#t bag like that in the first place
Absolutely!!!
But they are chameleons, charming at first & for a while.
Caymus
03-16-2024, 05:44 PM
Pleasant fellow. As the video warns: explicit language
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Looks like you can't trust anybody wearing a "wife beater" shirt.
Randall55
03-16-2024, 06:07 PM
It's totally understandable that you've never been in law enforcement, but anyone with a lick of sense knows that you can legally assault someone who is in the process of felony kidnapping. Sued? That's hilarious. Anyone can be sued for anything. Unlike many pearl clutchers around here, I don't live my life in fear of being sued, and I'm well aware of the laws here.I had a friend who stepped in to help a lady who was being pushed and shoved by a man. He grabbed the man by the shirt and pulled him away. The man sued him for medical bills. Attempted to get $$$$ for pain and suffering. It does happen.
My nephew is a police officer. His department would arrest all who made an assault. Cooling off period so the incident doesn't turn deadly hours later. When people are angry there is no telling what they will do. When they sit, locked up, their demeanor changes. Most are set free after seeing a judge the next day.
margaretmattson
03-16-2024, 06:40 PM
I had a friend who stepped in to help a lady who was being pushed and shoved by a man. He grabbed the man by the shirt and pulled him away. The man sued him for medical bills. Attempted to get $$$$ for pain and suffering. It does happen.
My nephew is a police officer. His department would arrest all who made an assault. Cooling off period so the incident doesn't turn deadly hours later. When people are angry there is no telling what they will do. When they sit, locked up, their demeanor changes. Most are set free after seeing a judge the next day.In sales, we were never allowed to stop a thief. If you attempted, you would be fired. Pretty much for the same reason. We were not allowed to commit a crime, such as an assault, to stop someone from doing a criminal act. The legality makes no sense to some. But, we were told NEVER attempt to stop a thief. Do not even follow them to the parking lot.
Shipping up to Boston
03-16-2024, 06:52 PM
In sales, we were never allowed to stop a thief. If you attempted, you would be fired. Pretty much for the same reason. We were not allowed to commit a crime, such as an assault, to stop someone from doing a criminal act. The legality makes no sense to some. But, we were told NEVER attempt to stop a thief. Do not even follow them to the parking lot.
Assuming, by sales, you mean retail? I think the major retailers see it as the product can be replaced but not an injured or deceased worker. It’s all about the bottom line $$$
margaretmattson
03-16-2024, 08:02 PM
Assuming, by sales, you mean retail? I think the major retailers see it as the product can be replaced but not an injured or deceased worker. It’s all about the bottom line $$$At different times, I sold cars, jewelry, and luxury brand items. Eventually,, I owned a business. We asked why we should not attempt to stop a thief. Your explanation was cited but the one I gave was a reason, as well. Committing a crime to stop a crime is not wise. If police catch the perp, the thief can point fingers and insist on your arrest for causing him real or made up injury. In my store, employees were told to stay away. Call 911 after the thief has left. It is crazy but criminals have rights.
OR! When caught, the thief can twist the story. Show their injury and insist they were simply shopping. The employee of the store grabbed me and I had to run for my life. ( or something similar)
John Mayes
03-16-2024, 08:25 PM
He may be lucky, but as it seems he is a repeat abuser, I wouldn't say the women who date him (now & in the future) are so lucky.
I somehow doubt he’ll be dating women in the foreseeable future.
John Mayes
03-16-2024, 08:36 PM
The only thing you can do in that scenario is call 911. Assault someone and you go to jail. Injure them, you could be sued. The friend should have screamed her head off. I also noticed the next door neighbors' lights did not come on. Maybe, not at home. If I were home, my lights would go on to give the security cameras a better chance of capturing the moment. Without hesitation, I would call 911.
Maybe you don’t know about the Stand Your Ground law in Florida. He should have looked at the business end of an Sig Sauer by a responsible neighbor.
badkarma318
03-17-2024, 01:12 AM
The only thing you can do in that scenario is call 911.
Incorrect.
elle123
03-17-2024, 04:36 AM
Anyone know how this ended?
A kidnapping suspect who barricaded himself in a home in The Villages on Friday had been arrested in 2023 after jealous harassment of a woman in the Village of Chatham.
James Savage, 54, was the subject of a manhunt on Friday after allegedly forcing a woman into a Mercedes in the Village of Monarch Grove. The woman was later found safe and Savage barricaded himself in a home on Belhaven Loop in the Village of Chatham, prompting a lengthy standoff with Marion County sheriff’s deputies.
Savage had been arrested last year after harassing a woman who lives on Belhaven Loop.
More on Villages news website
The video looked like an abduction and attempted murder when she refused to enter his car.
Chitown
03-17-2024, 05:10 AM
For those of you who do not know the kidnapping itself took place in the village of Monarch Grove. Then he proceeded down 301 to the village of Chatham.
Sabella
03-17-2024, 05:16 AM
I hope he was the owner of the house that got destroyed
westernrider75
03-17-2024, 05:27 AM
Anyone know how this ended?
A kidnapping suspect who barricaded himself in a home in The Villages on Friday had been arrested in 2023 after jealous harassment of a woman in the Village of Chatham.
James Savage, 54, was the subject of a manhunt on Friday after allegedly forcing a woman into a Mercedes in the Village of Monarch Grove. The woman was later found safe and Savage barricaded himself in a home on Belhaven Loop in the Village of Chatham, prompting a lengthy standoff with Marion County sheriff’s deputies.
Savage had been arrested last year after harassing a woman who lives on Belhaven Loop.
More on Villages news website
I’m not sure if the other woman in the video is a friend or not but I sure don’t want her as my back up. She was useless.
La lamy
03-17-2024, 05:28 AM
pleasant fellow. As the video warns: Explicit language
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unbelievable.
Sandabern
03-17-2024, 05:58 AM
He's a repeat offender and is (far more than) harassing women. This needs to be dealt with. Seriously... He should be on 24 hour watch if he's released. No one and especially women should not feel threatened in this community. "Justice should be served" whether in or out the courtroom for this garbage.
As of earlier this morning (around 9), it hadn't ended. Legacy Lane was still being blocked by Marion County sheriffs around this site of the barricaded house.
RoadToad
03-17-2024, 06:22 AM
I hope he was the owner of the house that got destroyed
He wasn't. Older woman "friend" owned it, he has a key. Was on WESH Tv Sat night.
Seems she was reluctant to tell LEOs the guy was there.
LuvNH
03-17-2024, 06:59 AM
5. Never associate with a s*#t bag like that in the first place
And that is the answer. I am a women, thankfully I have an A.H. antenna and I would never ever let a dirt bag like that near me. It would not take too long to see right through him as soon as he opened his filthy mouth.
Ladies, ladies, ladies, are you really that desperate that you would give this dirt bag five minutes of your time!
NotGolfer
03-17-2024, 07:24 AM
Google his name....he seems to have a history before coming to Florida plus also seems to work the system. Hopefully this time he'll be put away, if not for a very long time. He's dangerous!!
Dusty_Star
03-17-2024, 07:55 AM
It looks like the house he was holed up in in Chatham was damaged pretty severely. From The Villages News:
"An armored vehicle had been used to punch holes in the front door, garage and some windows. The tactical forklift was used to rip out the garage door, after it had been penetrated by the armored vehicle."
NoMo50
03-17-2024, 07:58 AM
In sales, we were never allowed to stop a thief. If you attempted, you would be fired. Pretty much for the same reason. We were not allowed to commit a crime, such as an assault, to stop someone from doing a criminal act. The legality makes no sense to some. But, we were told NEVER attempt to stop a thief. Do not even follow them to the parking lot.
There is a HUGE difference between trying to stop someone from stealing a pair of shoes, versus intervening to save a human life.
Switter
03-17-2024, 08:02 AM
1, it happened very fast
2, had she tried to call 911, she would have probably been punched or worse.
3, it was a hard choice, to call 911, she would have had to run away first, to protect herself, if she leaves then she isn't witnessing, & worse might happen.
4, engaging like a kick as you say, was never on the table.
Her friend absolutely should have run away and called 911. When this guy threw the victim across the ground like a ragdoll, that was enough to know that he was dangerous. There was no point in her sticking around to witness anymore-especially for her own safety-unless she was in a position to stop him.
4$ALE
03-17-2024, 09:01 AM
Since it had a happy ending can we expect to read about it in the happy paper?
:shrug: Don't know about any "happy paper" ...... but an article and picture were in yesterday's DAILY SUN. :oops:
BrianL99
03-17-2024, 09:19 AM
If this situation was in Polk County, Grady would have cleaned it all up, about 10 minutes after it started.
https://youtu.be/Kfiopm2EMhY
clossonjunk
03-17-2024, 09:56 AM
I don't know who her "friend" is, but she was absolutely useless. She had every opportunity to call 911 or kick him in the jewels. I'm glad I've got friends who would have my back.
That’s exactly what I said! I’m still baffled that there are those who think they can’t jump in or won’t jump in to help save her. That literally could have been her last moments on earth and that “friend” was like “oh well, see ya later.” She was a few steps from her garage, surely there was something in there she could have used to wack him with to pause him long enough for both women to run inside. Good grief.
flash4353
03-17-2024, 11:00 AM
After several hours we would have gassed the place - just to save all the overtime if for no other reason.
Pairadocs
03-17-2024, 11:14 AM
[QUOTE=Coop63;2311838]Anyone know how this ended?
A kidnapping suspect who barricaded himself in a home in The Villages on Friday had been arrested in 2023 after jealous harassment of a woman in the Village of Chatham.
James Savage, 54, was the subject of a manhunt on Friday after allegedly forcing a woman into a Mercedes in the Village of Monarch Grove. The woman was later found safe and Savage barricaded himself in a home on Belhaven Loop in the Village of Chatham, prompting a lengthy standoff with Marion County sheriff’s deputies.
Savage had been arrested last year after harassing a woman who lives on Belhaven Loop.
Just check the Daily Sun in the morning, I'm sure it will give you the details (sorry, just couldn't resist). Seriously, IMHO I think there is a GREAT deal more to this story, a great deal more. But of course I could be wrong ! We know that crime is out of control in the V's, and it's getting even worse everyday. Perhaps we have actually come to the point where we could be kidnapped, in broad daylight, while just taking a walk.... but I personally doubt it's gone that far....yet ! Still think a lot was not in the Villages News article. What we do know for sure, The Villages has become a magnet for criminals and ex-cons, and more seem to come everyday. Does not seem all are adult children of residents, seems many many landlords do not care who they rent to, that is another factor that adds to deterioration of the "friendly, caring, culture" the Villages was founded on, though there are still those of us who try to live up to that ideal, who still introduce ourselves to a new neighbor, who do still take home made cookies to greet a new resident, but it's an uphill "battle" to preserve this ambiance ! Who wants to take warm home backed cookies to a convicted child molester ? Not me these days ! No one is more hated than he/she who laments the "old days", but I sure do miss those days !
Pairadocs
03-17-2024, 11:21 AM
I am a tolerant individual, but not for a man who physically abuses a woman like this.
I note that he was Mr. Tough while roughing up a woman, not so much when dealing with the Sheriff. I hope Justice will be meted out.
Wonder if we could "borrow" Sheriff Grady of Polk county for at least a few months ? In six months he would be able to "discourage" any criminal types from coming to The Villages to hide out ! The Daily S. would not be able to keep ignoring what is happening to our community once he got to "work" on ferreting out the criminal element.
Pairadocs
03-17-2024, 11:25 AM
The video looked like an abduction and attempted murder when she refused to enter his car.
It certainly did !
Pairadocs
03-17-2024, 11:31 AM
Typical coward. Victimizes those less powerful, subservient when dealing with greater power.
It's called "sociopath", and in some cases "psychopath", Bundy, power, BTK killer Dennis Rader, etc. All proved to be extreme cowards when faced with equals (especially any males).
HORNET
03-17-2024, 12:00 PM
Orlando news had updates, over at around 5:00pm Saturday!
HORNET
03-17-2024, 12:03 PM
One of the other communities across has a resident’s son running around with a knife, threatening other residents. So why pick on The Villages!
margaretmattson
03-17-2024, 12:05 PM
I hope he was the owner of the house that got destroyedNo, he was visiting a friend. She was not able to get into her house for two days. Her car has broken windows, as well. She will be inconvenienced for some time. I can bet she is not going to help him with a bond to get out of jail.
jimjamuser
03-17-2024, 12:12 PM
Anyone know how this ended?
A kidnapping suspect who barricaded himself in a home in The Villages on Friday had been arrested in 2023 after jealous harassment of a woman in the Village of Chatham.
James Savage, 54, was the subject of a manhunt on Friday after allegedly forcing a woman into a Mercedes in the Village of Monarch Grove. The woman was later found safe and Savage barricaded himself in a home on Belhaven Loop in the Village of Chatham, prompting a lengthy standoff with Marion County sheriff’s deputies.
Savage had been arrested last year after harassing a woman who lives on Belhaven Loop.
More on Villages news website
Sounds like Mr. Savage is living up to his name. I think there is a psychology of names. Obviously he is no Saint. He is a disturbed individual. Judging by the extreme violence of his "throw-down" of that lady, he needs to be charged with attempted murder,
Decadeofdave
03-17-2024, 12:13 PM
His new address 546 NE 54th Terrace, Sumterville Fla 33521
jimjamuser
03-17-2024, 12:20 PM
I don't know who her "friend" is, but she was absolutely useless. She had every opportunity to call 911 or kick him in the jewels. I'm glad I've got friends who would have my back.
It looked like the "other woman" was trying to help. But, the guy, Mr Savage appeared like a deranged, large animal on crack.
jimjamuser
03-17-2024, 12:25 PM
5. Never associate with a s*#t bag like that in the first place
Unfortunately, some women are attracted to "s--m bags". And some men are good at hiding their real personalities when they 1st meet a lady.
AMB444
03-17-2024, 12:40 PM
And that is the answer. I am a women, thankfully I have an A.H. antenna and I would never ever let a dirt bag like that near me. It would not take too long to see right through him as soon as he opened his filthy mouth.
Ladies, ladies, ladies, are you really that desperate that you would give this dirt bag five minutes of your time!
I agree women need to be careful. But some of these men don't show who they really are until they are well into the relationship. If you read up on NPD you'll understand how these type of people work.
Escape Artist
03-17-2024, 01:17 PM
Methinks this story will add fuel to the fire regarding TV’s reputation for “seniors behaving badly” which has already tainted the image of TV (golf cart loofahs, swingers parties, THAT movie) This man is apparently some sort of professional Lothario so there’s also that…
bsloan1960
03-17-2024, 01:22 PM
And it took MCSO 24hrs of peacefully negotiating to get the perp to surrender; our negotiations when I was a State Trooper rarely lasted 2 hrs; i guess it’s a newer, kinder way. 👎 The "Peaceful surrender" happened after they gassed him and he decided he'd rather breathe than choke.
bsloan1960
03-17-2024, 01:27 PM
I don't know who her "friend" is, but she was absolutely useless. She had every opportunity to call 911 or kick him in the jewels. I'm glad I've got friends who would have my back. The initial report I read said he had a gun- No? Also, there are not TWO responses to danger: Fight or Flight- there are THREE: Fight, Flight, and FREEZE. For some reason the Freeze response doesn't get mentioned when saying this well known phrase.
bsloan1960
03-17-2024, 01:34 PM
Since it had a happy ending can we expect to read about it in the happy paper? Why do people criticize the Happy Paper. We've always considered it a Community News Letter. It is unapologetic in presenting helpful information and insight into navigating the complexities of the community and profiling the people in it. It serves a specific purpose and does a good job doing so. Anyone wanting stories on crime doesn't have to look far to get coverage on those stories.
birdawg
03-17-2024, 01:41 PM
I had a friend who stepped in to help a lady who was being pushed and shoved by a man. He grabbed the man by the shirt and pulled him away. The man sued him for medical bills. Attempted to get $$$$ for pain and suffering. It does happen.
My nephew is a police officer. His department would arrest all who made an assault. Cooling off period so the incident doesn't turn deadly hours later. When people are angry there is no telling what they will do. When they sit, locked up, their demeanor changes. Most are set free after seeing a judge the next day.. I had a friend who stoped a guy beating a woman in the street, when the cops got there the woman told the cops that my friend started the fight and hit both of them. He ended up in cuffs
Sandy and Ed
03-17-2024, 03:08 PM
Sounds like that fella has some mental deficiency and was off his med or needs to be put on meds. In any case get him off the streets and keep him off
JMintzer
03-17-2024, 03:25 PM
In sales, we were never allowed to stop a thief. If you attempted, you would be fired. Pretty much for the same reason. We were not allowed to commit a crime, such as an assault, to stop someone from doing a criminal act. The legality makes no sense to some. But, we were told NEVER attempt to stop a thief. Do not even follow them to the parking lot.
Completely different scenario...
Retail theft is in no way comparable to assault and kidnapping...
JMintzer
03-17-2024, 03:26 PM
I’m not sure if the other woman in the video is a friend or not but I sure don’t want her as my back up. She was useless.
Cut her some slack. Not everyone is trained in self defense...
AMB444
03-17-2024, 03:28 PM
Cut her some slack. Not everyone is trained in self defense...
Plus the guy could have had a knife which can be just as dangerous as a gun.
JMintzer
03-17-2024, 03:28 PM
And that is the answer. I am a women, thankfully I have an A.H. antenna and I would never ever let a dirt bag like that near me. It would not take too long to see right through him as soon as he opened his filthy mouth.
Ladies, ladies, ladies, are you really that desperate that you would give this dirt bag five minutes of your time!
Are we blaming the victim now? :ohdear:
AMB444
03-17-2024, 03:31 PM
Are we blaming the victim now? :ohdear:
Many people don't realize that sociopaths and NPD's will sneak their way into their victim's lives one way or another.
Dusty_Star
03-17-2024, 03:36 PM
Sounds like that fella has some mental deficiency and was off his med or needs to be put on meds. In any case get him off the streets and keep him off
Apparently this creep was a previously convicted felon.
LuvNH
03-17-2024, 04:09 PM
I agree women need to be careful. But some of these men don't show who they really are until they are well into the relationship. If you read up on NPD you'll understand how these type of people work.
I know I am hard on women, but it really is possible to see a snake looking for a lonely woman of means. There used to be a guy like this hanging around Glen View bar many years ago and he usually left with a lady. In this age of high tech it is so easy to look someone up on a computer.
I guess I am one of the lucky ones, I have a long time marriage with a great guy.
AMB444
03-17-2024, 04:33 PM
I know I am hard on women, but it really is possible to see a snake looking for a lonely woman of means. There used to be a guy like this hanging around Glen View bar many years ago and he usually left with a lady. In this age of high tech it is so easy to look someone up on a computer.
I guess I am one of the lucky ones, I have a long time marriage with a great guy.
Many sociopaths and NPD's may not necessarily be looking for money. Their motivation is to control and emotionally destroy their victims. They may not have "records" to look up as they may not have ever been arrested for their abuse.
And yes, it's tougher to understand for those that have never been in a situation like that. You are truly blessed. ;)
BrianL99
03-17-2024, 04:43 PM
Wonder if we could "borrow" Sheriff Grady of Polk county for at least a few months ? In six months he would be able to "discourage" any criminal types from coming to The Villages to hide out ! The Daily S. would not be able to keep ignoring what is happening to our community once he got to "work" on ferreting out the criminal element.
Sheriff Grady Judd is The Man, in Polk Country.
43 Inspiring Sheriff Grady Judd Quotes (https://quotestogetwiser.com/sheriff-grady-judd-quotes/)
When the press asked him why his Deputies fired 110 shots and hit Angilo Freeland (he had shot a Deputy & a K-9) with 68 of them, Grady responded with .... "we ran out of ammunition".
John Mayes
03-17-2024, 05:33 PM
sheriff grady judd is the man, in polk country.
43 inspiring sheriff grady judd quotes (https://quotestogetwiser.com/sheriff-grady-judd-quotes/)
when the press asked him why his deputies fired 110 shots and hit angilo freeland (he had shot a deputy & a k-9) with 68 of them, grady responded with .... "we ran out of ammunition".
lol!!!!!!
kkingston57
03-17-2024, 06:00 PM
And it took MCSO 24hrs of peacefully negotiating to get the perp to surrender; our negotiations when I was a State Trooper rarely lasted 2 hrs; i guess it’s a newer, kinder way. 👎
And the #1 worst police situation is a domestic situation. On this case, no injuries/deaths and he is in jail. Cost a few extra bucks up front and saved a lot of time money and expense if there were injuries/deaths.
BrianL99
03-17-2024, 06:36 PM
Sheriff Grady Judd is The Man, in Polk Country.
43 Inspiring Sheriff Grady Judd Quotes (https://quotestogetwiser.com/sheriff-grady-judd-quotes/)
When the press asked him why his Deputies fired 110 shots and hit Angilo Freeland (he had shot a Deputy & a K-9) with 68 of them, Grady responded with .... "we ran out of ammunition".
lol!!!!!!
I've asked about 10 people here in The Villages since the recent incident, if they knew who Grady Judd is. No one seemed to know. Do folks in The Villages not watch local TV News or doesn't the Tampa news get this far north?
Grady Judd is on the Tampa news, most every day. He's a Central Florida Folk Hero (& a little nuts). He's the Sheriff in lil' ol' Polk County. He's got TWO 40' Tractor Trailer Mobile Command Centers and probably the largest SWAT team in the USA, other than the FBI & NYC.
He's obsessed with sex. There's a sex arrest every day in Polk County and Brady is on TV, talking about it.
Polk County is home to Streamsong, the #1 golf resort in the East. There's nothing to do but golf, within 30 miles. I was looking at property there about 10 years ago, to open a Hooter's type restaurant (all those golfers away from home, with no adult supervision? It would have been a gold mine). As soon as I realized that was Judd country, I immediately folded my tent and went home.
Shipping up to Boston
03-17-2024, 06:42 PM
Sheriff Grady Judd is The Man, in Polk Country.
43 Inspiring Sheriff Grady Judd Quotes (https://quotestogetwiser.com/sheriff-grady-judd-quotes/)
When the press asked him why his Deputies fired 110 shots and hit Angilo Freeland (he had shot a Deputy & a K-9) with 68 of them, Grady responded with .... "we ran out of ammunition".
These toothless wonders forget about the Ring cam that they installed. Must’ve taken cues from Aaron Hernandez
Robojo
03-18-2024, 04:27 AM
Anyone know how this ended?
A kidnapping suspect who barricaded himself in a home in The Villages on Friday had been arrested in 2023 after jealous harassment of a woman in the Village of Chatham.
James Savage, 54, was the subject of a manhunt on Friday after allegedly forcing a woman into a Mercedes in the Village of Monarch Grove. The woman was later found safe and Savage barricaded himself in a home on Belhaven Loop in the Village of Chatham, prompting a lengthy standoff with Marion County sheriff’s deputies.
Savage had been arrested last year after harassing a woman who lives on Belhaven Loop.
More on Villages news website
I just saw the video of his crimes from December on youtube. His family name is correct.
Robojo
03-18-2024, 04:29 AM
I don't know who her "friend" is, but she was absolutely useless. She had every opportunity to call 911 or kick him in the jewels. I'm glad I've got friends who would have my back.
I agree. I was like, why is she just standing there?
huge-pigeons
03-18-2024, 05:34 AM
Lobotomy? Not harsh enough. This clown shows he’s not able to live amongst others and if up to me, he would not be able to do anything like this again
dcammel
03-18-2024, 06:04 AM
A lobotomy would guarantee no more problems.
Maybe a padded cell for a few years!
Jalane
03-18-2024, 07:46 AM
I hope he was the owner of the house that got destroyed
The Wesh2 news had a followup interview with the woman who owned the house the next day. The house was trashed inside, windows were broken, and garage door totally destroyed. It didn't look like a very peaceful ending.
Cliff Fr
03-18-2024, 09:27 AM
So: Has the scumbag been sentenced?
Shipping up to Boston
03-18-2024, 09:33 AM
So: Has the scumbag been sentenced?
Just got arrested. Gotta be arraigned first then his pony tailed, court appointed, no cost to the defendant bleed heart lawyer will push it out til all is forgotten and another one takes its place. Yada yada yada
Vermilion Villager
03-18-2024, 12:12 PM
I somehow doubt he’ll be dating women in the foreseeable future.
You can bank that one!!!
I'm sure this kidnapping will be elevated to "aggravated" kidnapping given the fact the woman was harmed during the act. The minimum sentence for aggravated kidnapping in Florida is 20 years and can go to life. Considering this guy is 55 years old I do not think we'll be seeing him until his late 70s or 80s. Prison in Florida......One heck of a way to spend the rest of what should have been your retirement years.
wamley
03-18-2024, 12:25 PM
Did your 2 hr way end peacefully?
TVTVTV
03-18-2024, 05:08 PM
The video looked like an abduction and attempted murder when she refused to enter his car.
She had a few opportunities to jump out of the car before he drove away, but didn't. Perhaps frozen in fear?
jimjamuser
03-18-2024, 05:57 PM
She had a few opportunities to jump out of the car before he drove away, but didn't. Perhaps frozen in fear?
She was in a daze. he face planted her into the concrete with crazed, insane force. Watch the BRUTAL video!
jimjamuser
03-18-2024, 06:05 PM
Many sociopaths and NPD's may not necessarily be looking for money. Their motivation is to control and emotionally destroy their victims. They may not have "records" to look up as they may not have ever been arrested for their abuse.
And yes, it's tougher to understand for those that have never been in a situation like that. You are truly blessed. ;)
Good points.
graciegirl
03-18-2024, 09:26 PM
She was in a daze. he face planted her into the concrete with crazed, insane force. Watch the BRUTAL video!
I'll say. It's a wonder that didn't kill her. AWFUL.
BigDawgInLakeDenham
03-18-2024, 11:29 PM
The mere fact that this didn’t end in an instant is beyond belief. I used to have respect for you ex law enforcement peoples in here but you dropped the ball years ago for a paycheck. You allowed the so called oppressed people take over to where you became afraid of the laws you espouse to believe in and did not want to speak up. You like to enforce laws on here on us here behind your keyboard but no one trusts the law anymore except those that are too naive to see that the criminals are in charge of the prison and us law binding folks are too afraid to defend ourselves. How many innocent people have to sacrifice themselves before you will realize that law enforcement has their hands tied and are only hand maidens to the liberal attorneys??? How many Peace Officers have to sacrifice themselves??? Just asking for a friend
simplesimonsaid
03-19-2024, 03:54 AM
With all the noise of the screaming and shouting, where were the neighbors, mainly the men when all this was going on. Not a soul came to help, and none of the gun owners came. Perhaps they only deal with paper targets.
JMintzer
03-19-2024, 02:43 PM
With all the noise of the screaming and shouting, where were the neighbors, mainly the men when all this was going on. Not a soul came to help, and none of the gun owners came. Perhaps they only deal with paper targets.
Were you there? Do you know what time it happened? Who was home nearby?
If you answered "No" to any of those questions, you should really sit this one out...
BrianL99
03-19-2024, 04:37 PM
So this story is getting better and better.
There was a story in a local newspaper this morning (the specifics of which can't be mentioned on this board).
Apparently, the Kidnapee was in the house where the SWAT team deployed.
The owner of the home, was also in that house. An 81 year old, recently widowed lady.
The owner had spoken to police, but didn't admit Savage was in her house. Apparently later, when the cops arrived, she admitted Savage was there ... and some time later, the kidnapee, also walked out the door.
Turns out, Savage was previously arrested for conning an elderly women with dementia.
Guess who his accomplice was in that adventure? No, not the current kidnapee, but another woman who lives on the same street! Savage had previously harassed her and been arrested for it. She of course, suddenly became "non-cooperative" and he never went to trial.
It looks like the woman's house was smacked up pretty good by the SWAT team. I wonder if insurance will cover such a thing? From the wording on the article, it seems like the owner may have been a friend of Savage.
Belhaven Loop is quite a neighborhood.
Shipping up to Boston
03-19-2024, 04:51 PM
So this story is getting better and better.
There was a story in a local newspaper this morning (the specifics of which can't be mentioned on this board).
Apparently, the Kidnapee was in the house where the SWAT team deployed.
The owner of the home, was also in that house. An 81 year old, recently widowed lady.
The owner had spoken to police, but didn't admit Savage was in her house. Apparently later, when the cops arrived, she admitted Savage was there ... and some time later, the kidnapee, also walked out the door.
Turns out, Savage was previously arrested for conning an elderly women with dementia.
Guess who his accomplice was in that adventure? No, not the current kidnapee, but another woman who lives on the same street! Savage had previously harassed her and been arrested for it. She of course, suddenly became "non-cooperative" and he never went to trial.
Belhaven Loop is quite a neighborhood.
" And now you know the rest of the story" - Paul Harvey RIP
Shipping up to Boston
03-19-2024, 04:53 PM
So this story is getting better and better.
There was a story in a local newspaper this morning (the specifics of which can't be mentioned on this board).
Apparently, the Kidnapee was in the house where the SWAT team deployed.
The owner of the home, was also in that house. An 81 year old, recently widowed lady.
The owner had spoken to police, but didn't admit Savage was in her house. Apparently later, when the cops arrived, she admitted Savage was there ... and some time later, the kidnapee, also walked out the door.
Turns out, Savage was previously arrested for conning an elderly women with dementia.
Guess who his accomplice was in that adventure? No, not the current kidnapee, but another woman who lives on the same street! Savage had previously harassed her and been arrested for it. She of course, suddenly became "non-cooperative" and he never went to trial.
Belhaven Loop is quite a neighborhood.
This perp has resting date rape face!
Dusty_Star
03-19-2024, 05:44 PM
I wonder if the jury will ever get to see that video?
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