Middleton vs TV

[BPRICE1234]

Just looking at new homes, prices, and lots. It seems middleton is a much better value?

You can still golf at the championship courses and visit all the town centers. You have pools and parks.

So what is the negative?

I need a fence and Middleton allows them, looking for any advice.

[Kelevision]

Just looking at new homes, prices, and lots. It seems middleton is a much better value?

You can still golf at the championship courses and visit all the town centers. You have pools and parks.

So what is the negative?

I need a fence and Middleton allows them, looking for any advice.

I’m confused by your constant fence posts. Why don’t you just buy a place with a fence? There are plenty for sale in TV with a fence. Middleton is for Families. For example, my friend bought a house in Middleton, not to live but for his son who attends the charter high school so after games and whatnot they have a place to party.

[Papa_lecki]

Just looking at new homes, prices, and lots. It seems middleton is a much better value?

You can still golf at the championship courses and visit all the town centers. You have pools and parks.

So what is the negative?

I need a fence and Middleton allows them, looking for any advice.

Let us know how it is?

[Papa_lecki]

I’m confused by your constant fence posts. Why don’t you just buy a place with a fence? There are plenty for sale in TV with a fence. Middleton is for Families. For example, my friend bought a house in Middleton, not to live but for his son who attends the charter high school so after games and whatnot they have a place to party.

So your friend bought a house in Middleton so his high school aged kids and their friends can party after 4 home football games and 15 home basketball games? And freshmen’s and sophomores aren’t really partying, so for 2 years.
Makes total sense.

If your friend has that kind of cash, his kid is not going to the charter school, his kid is attending some private school someplace

[Altavia]

Just looking at new homes, prices, and lots. It seems middleton is a much better value?

You can still golf at the championship courses and visit all the town centers. You have pools and parks.

So what is the negative?

I need a fence and Middleton allows them, looking for any advice.

I know of 55+ who moved there to be within walking distance of Grands.

Biggest difference as you probably know is no access to the Lifestyle amenities but they are family focused.

Neighborhood social life is mostly through the children so a 55+ with no family there may feel a little isolated.

Walking distance to Middleton Downtown will be a big plus once it goes on over the next 5+ years.

It's mandatory parents be involved with the schools and you can see it in the children. The groups of young people at from the encounter have always been polite and respectful.

Sales and Rental properties seem to be doing well there.

[Kelevision]

So your friend bought a house in Middleton so his high school aged kids and their friends can party after 4 home football games and 15 home basketball games? And freshmen’s and sophomores aren’t really partying, so for 2 years.
Makes total sense.

If your friend has that kind of cash, his kid is not going to the charter school, his kid is attending some private school someplace

200K for a brand new house isn’t “that kind of cash” lol it’s a steal….He’s a doctor here in TV and his kids absolutely go to the charter school and when they don’t need the house anymore, they’ll sell it and make a profit.

[BPRICE1234]

I’m confused by your constant fence posts. Why don’t you just buy a place with a fence? There are plenty for sale in TV with a fence. Middleton is for Families. For example, my friend bought a house in Middleton, not to live but for his son who attends the charter high school so after games and whatnot they have a place to party.

I have an issue with fences because I would like a new home and the same home with a fence and without can be 30k to 50k more! Sorry, I don't have that much to spend for a fence.

[graciegirl]

Just looking at new homes, prices, and lots. It seems middleton is a much better value?

You can still golf at the championship courses and visit all the town centers. You have pools and parks.

So what is the negative?

I need a fence and Middleton allows them, looking for any advice.

This is what I found on my first try looking for homes for sale with a fence. I don't know what your price perimeter is; Pardon Our Interruption (https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1600-Punta-Rassa-Ln_The-Villages_FL_32163_M92723-57518?from=srp-list-card)

I am sure there are those that are less expensive. I think that you would find it better to live "IN" The Villages instead in a family community.

I am not a realtor and have never sold any homes but a couple that we lived in.

I am sure you can find a home with a fence in The Villages. It would be wise for you to come and spend a month or so here renting and taking your time to access with your boots on the ground ...in my opinion.

At any rate, I am sure you will find the perfect place and we can all......

Welcome you home.

[Normal]

It is kind of far from everything and you can’t golf on any executive courses without paying? Also the houses are stick construction and not built with block or concrete slab.

[Kelevision]

This is what I found on my first try looking for homes for sale with a fence. I don't know what your price perimeter is; Pardon Our Interruption (https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1600-Punta-Rassa-Ln_The-Villages_FL_32163_M92723-57518?from=srp-list-card)

I am sure there are those that are less expensive. I think that you would find it better to live "IN" The Villages instead in a family community.

I am not a realtor and have never sold any homes but a couple that we lived in.

I am sure you can find a home with a fence in The Villages. It would be wise for you to come and spend a month or so here renting and taking your time to access with your boots on the ground ...in my opinion.

At any rate, I am sure you will find the perfect place and we can all......

Welcome you home.

No, they want a brand new home with a fence. Not pre-owned. Has to be brand new but not a spec. They want to build. Because there are Courtyard Villas on sale at this very moment. I’d snatch one up if I was looking for a new fenced home here.

[margaretmattson]

Watch the new build construction carefully. Price reductions are given once the developer moves on to a new area. In Lake Denham and Dabney over 250 homes saw price reductions. Many of the homes had fences. Most likely, there will be discounted homes in the Eastport area.

[BPRICE1234]

This is what I found on my first try looking for homes for sale with a fence. I don't know what your price perimeter is; Pardon Our Interruption (https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1600-Punta-Rassa-Ln_The-Villages_FL_32163_M92723-57518?from=srp-list-card)

I am sure there are those that are less expensive. I think that you would find it better to live "IN" The Villages instead in a family community.

I am not a realtor and have never sold any homes but a couple that we lived in.

I am sure you can find a home with a fence in The Villages. It would be wise for you to come and spend a month or so here renting and taking your time to access with your boots on the ground ...in my opinion.

At any rate, I am sure you will find the perfect place and we can all......

Welcome you home.

That's the top of my budget and I have found a few. We were wanting new but open to suggestions. I am coming for a visit but we are not retired yet so a month is out.
Thanks for the suggestions.

[tophcfa]

Very different, family versus retirement community. Totally different target markets/demographics and lifestyles. Middleton might have been great for us 35 years ago, but no thanks today.

[Rainger99]

It is kind of far from everything and you can’t golf on any executive courses without paying? Also the houses are stick construction and not built with block or concrete slab.

I thought you couldn't play the executive courses at all if you didn't live in the Villages unless you had a guest ID card. And if you live in Lake, Sumter, or Marion counties you can't get a guest ID card unless you are a child or grandchild of a Villages resident. I don't think living in Middleton provides any access to the executive courses. If it does, the courses will really be crowded next winter!

[Bogie Shooter]

It is kind of far from everything and you can’t golf on any executive courses without paying? Also the houses are stick construction and not built with block or concrete slab.

What replaced the concrete slab??

[MrChip72]

You will have no access to any events/parties run by Villagers in the Rec Centers. You can't join any of the clubs. You can't use the executive golf courses except as a guest. You can't use any of the pools, pickleball courts, bocce courts, etc in TV except as a guest. You won't get discounted pricing on Championship golf.

It's not the same at all as being in "The Villages". The only thing you really get is golf cart access to The Villages.

[Normal]

What replaced the concrete slab??

Construction slabs….Slabs are poured, transported and tilted into position for homes. They are strong, but less than ideal for repairs on electrical circuits and any other integrated components. They are also less than ideal if seismic activity occurs in an area. They are a cheaper way to build homes than using blocks though and less likely to have water leaks.

[JMintzer]

Construction slabs….Slabs are poured, transported and tilted into position for homes. They are strong, but less than ideal for repairs on electrical circuits and any other integrated components. They are also less than ideal if seismic activity occurs in an area. They are a cheaper way to build homes than using blocks though and less likely to have water leaks.

You're talking about "tilt wall" construction.

It has no bearing on whether a concrete slab is used.

Concrete slabs are use in stick built, block built and tilt wall construction. They all use the same basic foundation of concrete being poured on the ground.

[Mleeja]

You're talking about "tilt wall" construction.

It has no bearing on whether a concrete slab is used.

Concrete slabs are use in stick built, block built and tilt wall construction. They all use the same basic foundation of concrete being poured on the ground.

Technically, tilt wall construction are concrete slabs tilted up vertically.

[JoMar]

I thought you couldn't play the executive courses at all if you didn't live in the Villages unless you had a guest ID card. And if you live in Lake, Sumter, or Marion counties you can't get a guest ID card unless you are a child or grandchild of a Villages resident. I don't think living in Middleton provides any access to the executive courses. If it does, the courses will really be crowded next winter!

You can only play an exec with a resident ID or a guest pass and they are only good for 30 days. I guess they can play Championships but at a non-resident price which, in season, I suspect would be prohibitive. I also don't believe that Villages residents can use the Middleton amenities.

[John Mayes]

Technically, tilt wall construction are concrete slabs tilted up vertically.

Sorry to be “that guy” but the process that TV’s uses is not tilt wall.

Tilt wall is built on-site tilted/lift up into place.

TV’s use a precast wall process that’s fabricated by DZ precast off-site in a factory using molds and brought to the build site and lifted into place by a crane.

[Pairadocs]

Just looking at new homes, prices, and lots. It seems middleton is a much better value?

You can still golf at the championship courses and visit all the town centers. You have pools and parks.

So what is the negative?

I need a fence and Middleton allows them, looking for any advice.

You're looking for a range of opinions, and you will certainly get them on this site, but... don't you think those kinds of questions are best addressed to your villages sales rep rather than get misleading advice from others who may not be up on the latest ? As for could you play the championship courses if you purchase a home there; I'd not know why you couldn't since they are open to the public as are the "country club" restaurants. You might want to check on the "bonds", in some cases that is a reason to consider a previously owned home. The town squares are like any town square in any town, they are public and any entertainment that happens there is public and free.

[asianthree]

You're looking for a range of opinions, and you will certainly get them on this site, but... don't you think those kinds of questions are best addressed to your villages sales rep rather than get misleading advice from others who may not be up on the latest ? As for could you play the championship courses if you purchase a home there; I'd not know why you couldn't since they are open to the public.

Championships are definitely open to the public, rates for non resident is really outrageous

[Pairadocs]

spWhat replaced the concrete slab??

As meatloaf once sang back in the 80's "you took the words right out of my mouth"....LOL... I read that and thought WHAT ???? Now they are building right ON THE DIRT, or have they stated to dig basements (or better called indoor swimming pools) now ?

[Bogie Shooter]

sp

As meatloaf once sang back in the 80's "you took the words right out of my mouth"....LOL... I read that and thought WHAT ???? Now they are building right ON THE DIRT, or have they stated to dig basements (or better called indoor swimming pools) now ?

Some posters are in such a hurry to criticize the developer…..they don’t stop to think how stupid some comments are.

[barbara828]

You're looking for a range of opinions, and you will certainly get them on this site, but... don't you think those kinds of questions are best addressed to your villages sales rep rather than get misleading advice from others who may not be up on the latest ? As for could you play the championship courses if you purchase a home there; I'd not know why you couldn't since they are open to the public as are the "country club" restaurants. You might want to check on the "bonds", in some cases that is a reason to consider a previously owned home. The town squares are like any town square in any town, they are public and any entertainment that happens there is public and free.
We know how good the sales reps are ! LOL

[MrChip72]

You're looking for a range of opinions, and you will certainly get them on this site, but... don't you think those kinds of questions are best addressed to your villages sales rep rather than get misleading advice from others who may not be up on the latest ?

From our experience buying 2 years ago, and what we've heard from a few others, I no longer assume that most of the Villages sales reps have much knowledge on most of these types of things. We were given incorrect information on several things and it was more likely a lack of knowledge from the sales agent than deception. We got more accurate information talking to people at the squares that have lived here for awhile than from the sales agent.

[Mleeja]

Sorry to be “that guy” but the process that TV’s uses is not tilt wall.

Tilt wall is built on-site tilted/lift up into place.

TV’s use a precast wall process that’s fabricated by DZ precast off-site in a factory using molds and brought to the build site and lifted into place by a crane.

Tilt wall is a generic construction term for concrete walls being “tilted” into place by a crane. My point is, it is still a “concrete slab” regardless if it was precast at a factory or poured on-site.

[Normal]

Tilt wall is a generic construction term for concrete walls being “tilted” into place by a crane. My point is, it is still a “concrete slab” regardless if it was precast at a factory or poured on-site.

Correct

[Normal]

Some posters are in such a hurry to criticize the developer…..they don’t stop to think how stupid some comments are.

I’m not sure where the critical portion of the developer is on this OPs thread, but have at it if it makes you feel better to be so negative.

[rsmurano]

I rented an airbnb place in Spanish springs before we bought almost 4 years ago and I got guest cards so we could use the amenities.
Middleton doesn’t and shouldn’t get to use TV amenities. Middleton is like Oxford Oaks, so close but so far away from what TV has to offer.
Also, if you are a guest trying to make a tee time in the winter, forget it. Anytime you put guest in as part of your foursome, you go to the bottom of the list. Plus Middleton is way too close to the schools: lights, noise, and hundreds of kids.

[bowlingal]

make sure your lanai faces north. Any lanai facing west is in for a "hot" time

[Windguy]

So what is the negative?

The big negative for me would be the same reason why I moved to TV instead of a typical suburban neighborhood: Your neighbors will most likely have jobs and won’t be around during the day to do things with you. It’ll be more lonely.

[Bogie Shooter]

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[Bogie Shooter]

I’m not sure where the critical portion of the developer is on this OPs thread, but have at it if it makes you feel better to be so negative.

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[BlueStarAirlines]

It sounds like the OP is fairly constrained with their house budget and a fence is just adding to that.

I don't say this disrespectfully, but TV is not for everyone. There are many other communities that offer houses with fences that are closer to their price point. This shouldn't be an issue because if OP was willing to give up all the TV benefits and amenities to move to Middleton, then other communities should be a consideration.

[Danth1980]

At least one person in each house in Middleton must work for TV, so if you are retired, forget about moving there.

[John Mayes]

At least one person in each house in Middleton must work for TV, so if you are retired, forget about moving there.

This is not true. Anyone can live in Middleton. If though you have a child and want them to go to the charter school then one parent must work for TV’s or an authorized business supporting TV’s.

[Bogie Shooter]

At least one person in each house in Middleton must work for TV, so if you are retired, forget about moving there.

Doesn’t that requirement only apply to charter school attendance?

[zmannscz]

Sorry to be “that guy” but the process that TV’s uses is not tilt wall.

Tilt wall is built on-site tilted/lift up into place.

TV’s use a precast wall process that’s fabricated by DZ precast off-site in a factory using molds and brought to the build site and lifted into place by a crane.

I had a tour of the DZ factory. Very impressive process for the precast walls.

[asianthree]

Construction slabs….Slabs are poured, transported and tilted into position for homes. They are strong, but less than ideal for repairs on electrical circuits and any other integrated components. They are also less than ideal if seismic activity occurs in an area. They are a cheaper way to build homes than using blocks though and less likely to have water leaks.

Aren’t the precast walls transported on trailers and lifted up with cranes placed on traditional concrete slab. No tilting involved, since it’s precast offsite? Family block business started in 40s, eventually moving to block and solid pour onsite walls not just for basements. Today 3 of the 11 sites have now converted to precast, one still producing block, the rest just plain old pour.

The retired sons still believe block is an art and a better build. Grandsons believe precast is the way to go. None have cast onsite for tilt, due to amount of space. It’s a heated discussion at every family event, although the sons are now late eighties, grands will eventually win.

[asianthree]

Doesn’t that requirement only apply to charter school attendance?

Very true, anybody can live in Middle, but if you have kids somebody has to work for TV or TV business. Even the VA clinic has that privilege for their children

[BPRICE1234]

Great advice

[kingofbeer]

Just looking at new homes, prices, and lots. It seems middleton is a much better value?

You can still golf at the championship courses and visit all the town centers. You have pools and parks.

So what is the negative?

I need a fence and Middleton allows them, looking for any advice.
I don't think they pay the amenity fee. So golf would not be included.

[Ptmcbriz]

You should buy a house in Moultrie Creek Village which is right across the street from the high school. Best of both worlds. Access to Middleton and access to all of TV.

[Rodneysblue]

It’s more or set up for families that work in TV.

[Normal]

Aren’t the precast walls transported on trailers and lifted up with cranes placed on traditional concrete slab. No tilting involved, since it’s precast offsite? Family block business started in 40s, eventually moving to block and solid pour onsite walls not just for basements. Today 3 of the 11 sites have now converted to precast, one still producing block, the rest just plain old pour.

The retired sons still believe block is an art and a better build. Grandsons believe precast is the way to go. None have cast onsite for tilt, due to amount of space. It’s a heated discussion at every family event, although the sons are now late eighties, grands will eventually win.

Correct. They are marketed as “tilt wall”, but are precast slab with wiring etc already incorporated.

[Robojo]

Just looking at new homes, prices, and lots. It seems middleton is a much better value?

You can still golf at the championship courses and visit all the town centers. You have pools and parks.

So what is the negative?

I need a fence and Middleton allows them, looking for any advice.

Where are these properties advertised? I don't see Middleton on the app.

[John Mayes]

Where are these properties advertised? I don't see Middleton on the app.

Middleton | A great place to call home - Middleton (https://mymiddleton.com/)

[maistocars]

Watch the new build construction carefully. Price reductions are given once the developer moves on to a new area. In Lake Denham and Dabney over 250 homes saw price reductions. Many of the homes had fences. Most likely, there will be discounted homes in the Eastport area.
That's a stretch. Dabney and Lake Denham had price reductions because of the location. You won't see that in the Villages by Eastport, except maybe those lining Marsh Bend with the electric poles and substation, traffic, cement plant, etc.

[jmaccallum]

It is kind of far from everything and you can’t golf on any executive courses without paying? Also the houses are stick construction and not built with block or concrete slab.

All the houses are built on slabs. You can do tilt-wall (formed concrete walls) or block and stucco on a build but yes, most are wood frame.

[jmaccallum]

I thought you couldn't play the executive courses at all if you didn't live in the Villages unless you had a guest ID card. And if you live in Lake, Sumter, or Marion counties you can't get a guest ID card unless you are a child or grandchild of a Villages resident. I don't think living in Middleton provides any access to the executive courses. If it does, the courses will really be crowded next winter!

You are correct. Can not play on executive courses. Can play championship courses as they now have a new designation EG/MM - Enhanced Guest or Middleton Member. Slightly more than RM - Resident Member.

[jmaccallum]

At least one person in each house in Middleton must work for TV, so if you are retired, forget about moving there.

That is not true. You must work for TV or TV related business ONLY if you want you kids to go to the Charter School.

[Bogie Shooter]

That is not true. You must work for TV or TV related business ONLY if you want you kids to go to the Charter School.

As pointed out previous times………

[kansasr]

As pointed out previous times………

But I heard it from my neighbor's hair dresser's cousin....it must be true.....

[MidWestIA]

Get a cart and go to middleton and time your drive to what you would go to. Then go above hwy 44 like at least hillsborough and do the same . Feels like you spend most your time on your cart going to these things and preowned is great if you like that style

[4$ALE]

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:BigApplause: Thanks for taking the high road and remember.....“Never have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.”
― Mark Twain :1rotfl:

[Batman]

A good portion of the Middleton houses are block or prefab

[JMintzer]

Technically, tilt wall construction are concrete slabs tilted up vertically.

Technically, that is irrelevant to the point I was making...

[JMintzer]

We know how good the sales reps are ! LOL

Out of curiosity, when was the last time you used the service of a VLS Sales Rep?

[JMintzer]

I’m not sure where the critical portion of the developer is on this OPs thread, but have at it if it makes you feel better to be so negative.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[JMintzer]

This is not true. Anyone can live in Middleton. If though you have a child and want them to go to the charter school then one parent must work for TV’s or an authorized business supporting TV’s.

Correct...

Doesn’t that requirement only apply to charter school attendance?

And Correct...

[JMintzer]

Very true, anybody can live in Middle, but if you have kids somebody has to work for TV or TV business. Even the VA clinic has that privilege for their children

Only in reference the The Charter School attendance...

You can have kids and live in Middleton and not use the Charter school option...

[JMintzer]

As pointed out previous times………

Yet people still get it wrong...

[Bogie Shooter]

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