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dewilson58
04-25-2025, 12:25 PM
It's been a great time to drive into the market.
Massive emotional sell-off...................came back nicely, now is it going to run???
Wait until June, might be too late for the easy gains.
:mmmm:
MrLonzo
04-25-2025, 01:08 PM
It's been a great time to drive into the market.
Massive emotional sell-off...................came back nicely, now is it going to run???
Wait until June, might be too late for the easy gains.
:mmmm:
Just 2 weeks ago, I was pounding the table telling anyone that would listen that this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to get into the stock market. It's a time when many future millionaires are made. Already coming back, and will continue -- but if there is another pullback, that's just another opportunity!
jimhoward
04-25-2025, 01:22 PM
If you have significant cash, then you haven't been fully invested in the market. If you cashed out more than a year ago, then the recent dip did not even reach your prior exit point.
Market timing is tough.
Now if somebody has some sort of new found cash windfall then its a different story. I guess that is what you are taking about.
It's Hot There
04-26-2025, 07:16 AM
I've kept the emotion and hype out of the last 60 days and the purchases have been quite rewarding.
Never seen a dip which did not come back, profitably.
NOT market timing.................just not "cash" holding.
justjim
04-26-2025, 06:57 PM
IRA’S have been in mutual funds since retirement. 60/40 has worked for me. My few personal stocks are in long term value dividend and a couple of growth ones. Not a trader since retirement. No worries. But each to their own.
Tyrone Shoelaces
04-27-2025, 06:33 AM
I'm in 25% cash waiting on DJIA 30K
CoachKandSportsguy
04-27-2025, 08:12 AM
It's been a great time to drive into the market.
Massive emotional sell-off...................came back nicely, now is it going to run???
Wait until June, might be too late for the easy gains.
:mmmm:
the future is uncertain, be nibble
Emotional NO!, earnings forecasts are coming down. Companies are not giving forecast guidance this quarter's calls. Easy scenario: zero earnings growth, average growth multiple, you have 4,000 SPX very easily.
GDP down, equities down, dollar down, oil down, bonds down, 10 year term premium rising, Fed playing the data waiting game -> -> this combo never an optimistic scenario. Technicals have a good couple of days and everyone is bullish?
Foreigners have stopped investing in the USA, but have yet to start selling. 401K month end salary systemic buying still happening, until employment falls, then emergency usage will cause 401K selling.
Other Bear Market not a good time to buy actual bear market rallies:
2022: 3/15/2022 - 3/29-2022 11% rally, by 5/12/2022 15+% percent selloff
2020: 7/31/2020 - 9/2/2020 10% rally by 9/23/2020 12+% selloff
2007-2008: had similar 8%+ rallies with 10% selloffs soon after
2000: 9/1/2000 -> 12/20/2000 20+% sell off, 8.6%% rally, by 3/22/2001 20% sell off
so the always recovered is true, but maybe not from the current levels
The only "good news" at the moment, is that Walmart, Target and Home Depot have resumed shipments from China after the WH meeting. In the latest week ships leaving China were 40% full, which means product scarcities will happen for a period of time. **Then expect a 10-15% price increase to absorb the tariffs and pass it along. ** info sourced from consumer goods P/E firm concerning tariff strategy
Tariff vs tax source comparison:
< $36,000 family 0% income tax earners: tariffs crushing, no relief even with tax relief
< 72,000 family 12% income tax earnings: tariffs crushing until tax relief given, then neutral, no change in spending, assuming tax free income
< 125,,000 family 22% income tax threshold: tariffs doable, but eats more than half of discretionary vacation / enjoyment surplus with tax relief
> $210,000 family, >22% income tax threshold, irritated beyond belief, but can easily survive
Project 2025 in full execution mode. . . will it work or tank the economy?
:censored::censored::censored:
RICH1
04-27-2025, 08:31 AM
But why is a Older Retiree taking a High Risk by investing in the market..This is "nuts"
Aces4
04-27-2025, 08:44 AM
IRA’S have been in mutual funds since retirement. 60/40 has worked for me. My few personal stocks are in long term value dividend and a couple of growth ones. Not a trader since retirement. No worries. But each to their own.
Exactly!
Aces4
04-27-2025, 08:49 AM
But why is a Older Retiree taking a High Risk by investing in the market..This is "nuts"
I consider it as if the oldsters are sitting in the casino and putting their cash on the table. Hard to feel sorry for them, they wanted to play the game. Much of it's greed.
Topspinmo
04-27-2025, 11:05 AM
I consider it as if the oldsters are sitting in the casino and putting their cash on the table. Hard to feel sorry for them, they wanted to play the game. Much of it's greed.
I was in casino once walked right pass all the pre-programmed games to auditorium, then walked right back out when event was over. IMO anybody that plays video slots are the biggest suckers walking face of earth. :faint:
bopat
04-27-2025, 03:02 PM
Buy low sell high
OrangeBlossomBaby
04-27-2025, 04:12 PM
But why is a Older Retiree taking a High Risk by investing in the market..This is "nuts"
Because they'll be dead soon and therefore it doesn't matter how much or little they have in the end? The Lord doesn't impose tariffs on imported souls to Heaven. Either you get in free, or you don't get in.
dewilson58
04-27-2025, 04:44 PM
But why is a Older Retiree taking a High Risk by investing in the market..This is "nuts"
"High Risk" is a degree and an opinion.
"nuts" is also an opinion.
:ho:
mrf6969
05-01-2025, 12:21 PM
So, who has a great stockbroker here in the TV area that has a great proven track record in the ups and downs?
dewilson58
05-01-2025, 12:36 PM
So, who has a great stockbroker here in the TV area that has a great proven track record in the ups and downs?
May want to start a new thread with an appropriate title to get responses.
Most don't use a stockbroker............but you have a better chance of more answers in a new thread.
:beer3:
jimhoward
05-01-2025, 01:34 PM
But why is a Older Retiree taking a High Risk by investing in the market..This is "nuts"
Perhaps because they still think long term and don't make the timeline for their portfolio ending when they die. Stocks are not risky in the long term. Stocks will for sure be higher in the future and so will be your portfolio even if its owned by your heirs and you aren't around to see it.
The only reason to go hyper conservative is if you are worried you may run out of money and need to tap into your equities during a down period.
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