Gun Banning

[Guest]

This election will determine our Second Amendment freedoms. If Obama wins he will put another liberal on the Supreme Court and that will mean they will ban guns.

We must defeat Obama because once they ban guns, government will be out of control. The Second Amendment protects us from the complete control of government.

Wake up people!!!!!!

http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/11/michelle-obamas-warning-to-gun-owners/

Michelle Obama (The Bitter Half) has warned us.

[Guest]

No politican is dumb enough to completely ban firearms and mess with the 2d Amendment, just yet. They (the government) are just a couple generations to soon for that to happen. The government needs to dumb down the population before banning all firearms and taking control of every aspect of your life. The government is now in the process of dumbing down furture generations of Americans to believe that the government has the right to control everything that you do.

Will this work, maybe maybe not, just hope that I never have to find out.

[Guest]

No politican is dumb enough to completely ban firearms and mess with the 2d Amendment, just yet. They (the government) are just a couple generations to soon for that to happen. The government needs to dumb down the population before banning all firearms and taking control of every aspect of your life. The government is now in the process of dumbing down furture generations of Americans to believe that the government has the right to control everything that you do.

Will this work, maybe maybe not, just hope that I never have to find out.

The Second Amendment is clinging to life because the Supreme Court needs just one more vote.

Did you go to my link?

[Guest]

Good luck getting my guns.

[Guest]

VG, sure did. You have to remember the Surpreme Court is not the final word in laws. That belongs to the Constitution and We The People. Just because 9 fools in black robes say something that does not mean its law. That is a mistake that lots of folks make. The Constitution is the final word in law, but seems that many have forgotten that and we, again, We The People, have let our law makers get away with stuff that should have been kick back by the States for being in violation of the Constitution. That is why it is important to watch not only Federal elections, but who we put into office in local and state elections. We The People have more control of local and state criminals than we do Federal. Nulificiation by the states can do wonders to control the Federal Government criminals. More states need to be pushed into using that control, and We The People can force, by ballot, our local and state governments to do just that.

So, again no politican will be stupid enough, well they might, but it will be way to early for that to happen. We need more dumbing down before the elite take total control of our lowly, useless way of life.

[Guest]

Good luck getting my guns.

Quick, to the bunker. :boom:

[Guest]

Pat RI, well if they, the government, want your guns bad enough they, the government goons, will be prying them from your cold dead hands. Hopefully, We The People, will, through the ballot and not the bullet will change our government in 2012 and none of this will happen. Words are easy to say, but if you have never been shot at before, let me tell you, its a live changing experience, and one that I hope that I will never experience again.

So let's look over each candidate very carefully, chose wisely and hope for the change that will head this country in the right direction once again.

[Guest]

Pat RI, well if they, the government, want your guns bad enough they, the government goons, will be prying them from your cold dead hands. Hopefully, We The People, will, through the ballot and not the bullet will change our government in 2012 and none of this will happen. Words are easy to say, but if you have never been shot at before, let me tell you, its a live changing experience, and one that I hope that I will never experience again.

So let's look over each candidate very carefully, chose wisely and hope for the change that will head this country in the right direction once again.

Amen :beer3:

[Guest]

Good luck getting my guns.

I'm sure the guns owners used to say that in Australia. We know how that turned out.

[Guest]

Criminals will always have guns, and I strongly recommend you have a few in your home for your own protection.

[Guest]

Pat RI, well if they, the government, want your guns bad enough they, the government goons, will be prying them from your cold dead hands. Hopefully, We The People, will, through the ballot and not the bullet will change our government in 2012 and none of this will happen. Words are easy to say, but if you have never been shot at before, let me tell you, its a live changing experience, and one that I hope that I will never experience again.

So let's look over each candidate very carefully, chose wisely and hope for the change that will head this country in the right direction once again.

I totally agree with what you say but it will be from my cold dead hands. What is funny is they are discussing a national right to carry bill as we talk about this.

[Guest]

Where were you gun totin' jocks last Saturday night when the crime of the year occured at Lake Sumter Landing? I understand through 3rd hand information that someone jumped out of a car, dragged someone else out of another car and beat the crap out of him with a lead pipe in front of witnesses - and then drove off. Supposedly it happened around 9 pm with a town square full of people - and no one with a gun to bring truth, justice, and the American way to the bad dudes.

[Guest]

Where were you gun totin' jocks last Saturday night when the crime of the year occured at Lake Sumter Landing? I understand through 3rd hand information that someone jumped out of a car, dragged someone else out of another car and beat the crap out of him with a lead pipe in front of witnesses - and then drove off. Supposedly it happened around 9 pm with a town square full of people - and no one with a gun to bring truth, justice, and the American way to the bad dudes.


Ya got it all wrong...It was a Mustard colored car and the weapon was a candlestick, but it was in Spanish Springs and there were no witnesses!

[Guest]

Criminals will always have guns, and I strongly recommend you have a few in your home for your own protection.

Every American should have an automatic weapon....it's as American as apple pie, Mom, Chevrolet & machoism. :boom:

[Guest]

Where were you gun totin' jocks last Saturday night when the crime of the year occured at Lake Sumter Landing? I understand through 3rd hand information that someone jumped out of a car, dragged someone else out of another car and beat the crap out of him with a lead pipe in front of witnesses - and then drove off. Supposedly it happened around 9 pm with a town square full of people - and no one with a gun to bring truth, justice, and the American way to the bad dudes.

Well, let's see where to start on the above statement. Just because you, as an individual decides to get permission from the state, any state where it is legal, to carry a concealed weapon does not give you police powers. The best police powers that you have is that expensive cell phone with the camera and the right to call 911 as quickly as you can.

Now, being that it was in a crowded Town Square, lots of innocent folks standing around, sipping their favorite beverage, it is not a good idea to cut lose and shot a few rounds off. The best and most likely the fastest way to stop what was going on was to shout at the individual doing the beating to get him to look up into the camera so that you get a good shoot of his face for the soon to arrive police officers, then get a shoot of the license plate of the car and try to remember as much of the details of what you saw to help with the investigation of the incident. Let the officers know that you have a recording on your phone of what you saw. It will help them a lot.

Since the vast majority of CCW holders never get any training on how to react in an emergency situation and most likely would not hit the target anyway due to excitement and stress, please go for the cellphone camera and 911 and leave the rest to the trained soon to arrive officers of the law.

That is the best way to bring truth, justice, and the American way to the bad dudes, keep yourself out of a civil suit and maybe even out of a criminal charge. Using deadly force is a life changing situation, make sure you are ready for the change.

Oh, by the way, I have carried for all most all my adult life and the last time I fired a shot in anger was TET 1968 and everyday I hope that I never have to do it again. Would I if I had to, yes, would I ever want to NO. That is why I believe in: advoidance, awareness and and de-escalation.

[Guest]

Figmo says "Since the vast majority of CCW holders never get any training on how to react in an emergency situation and most likely would not hit the target anyway due to excitement and stress, please go for the cellphone camera and 911 and leave the rest to the trained soon to arrive officers of the law."

This sounds as though the concealed weapons permits are freely given out with little regard to how to use the weapon in an emergency situation. I would think the only reason to carry a weapon would be for an emergency situation. Figmo gives good advice here and makes a good arguement for NOT carrying a weapon in public places such as Lake Sumter Landing or Spanish Springs.

[Guest]

I do not carry but am relieved that there are people who do carry. If some drug crazed kid or adult was to start shooting people at random, I would like an armed person to put an end to the carnage.

[Guest]

I do not carry but am relieved that there are people who do carry. If some drug crazed kid or adult was to start shooting people at random, I would like an armed person to put an end to the carnage.

If most who carry guns can't hit their target anyway it may just increase the carnage. But hell, it's worth a try. :boom:

[Guest]

I still say that having people carrying guns is a deterrent. People outside of The Villages know that many here are carrying. I could be wrong but I do know that thieves will avoid places that have a hint of danger or even a large dog.

[Guest]

This sounds as though the concealed weapons permits are freely given out with little regard to how to use the weapon in an emergency situation. I would think the only reason to carry a weapon would be for an emergency situation. Figmo gives good advice here and makes a good arguement for NOT carrying a weapon in public places such as Lake Sumter Landing or Spanish Springs.

I have said from the beginnning, those that chose to carry should get the necessary training of what to do in an emergency and how to hit the target that you are aiming at unstress. Sadly, not many do. But according to the Second Amendment everyone, other than those whose with mental problems, felons, etc., who have lost the right to own a firearm, can get a permit to carry in most of the states. They don't get the necessary training to use one under stress. The same as most of the police officers in this nation. You would be surprised at how many can not shoot or want to learn to shoot. Did you know that cops have killed more innocent bystanders that holders of CCWs. That is a sad note on the part of our law enforcement personnel. Never did I say NOT to carry in LSL or SS or anyplace that it is legal to carry. That is each persons responsibility to determine that for themselves. What you have to know is when and how and where to use lethal force if you are forced into that situation.

If someone started shooting on the squares, I would diffenently want to have my firearm with me. As in the vast majority of these situations, at the first sign of resistance the shooter, eithers, retreats or takes their own life, therefore saving a bunch of lives.

So in closing, don't ever state something that I have not stated. I did not make a point to NOT carry on the squares, I just stated what I would have done, not what could have been done or what was done by someone else.

I keep my training up todate, I shot under stress and I practice. That is what an instructor does, as well as a competitive shooter. Would I have done anything different that I said in my last post, nope, still the best weapon that you have in this case, is your cellphone camera and 911, your life nor your loved ones are in danger at this time.

Anyone who wants to learn to shoot should contact a qualified instructor, get good training, starting with the basics because what you do in training is what you will do under stress.

[Guest]

No politican is dumb enough to completely ban firearms and mess with the 2d Amendment, just yet. They (the government) are just a couple generations to soon for that to happen. The government needs to dumb down the population before banning all firearms and taking control of every aspect of your life. The government is now in the process of dumbing down furture generations of Americans to believe that the government has the right to control everything that you do.

Will this work, maybe maybe not, just hope that I never have to find out.

FB You could not have been monitoring our 535 members since 2008 or you would not have started your post with "No politician would be dumb enough"

[Guest]

Good post Fig,

See, we can agree again.:beer3:

[Guest]

FB You could not have been monitoring our 535 members since 2008 or you would not have started your post with "No politician would be dumb enough"

Oh, but we (NRA, GOA, other Gun Rights People) have. Some will talk a good anti-gun game, but have you seen any bills come to the floor. Some of the pol criminals need to go home and say see "I tried, but could not get it done. Please send me back so I can keep trying." There are to many good ole libs, who hunt deer with dear ole dad's old 30-30 for them to mess with. But some need to say they are trying to keep coming back to the public trough that they feed at.