I don't think either one is an idiot!

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After Rick Perry forgot something during the debate I was amazed at the press frenzy over such a minor thing.
Everyone in media on the left seems to think there is blood in the water and they are attacking beyond belief.
Now when Obama pointed out to us, to my surprise that we indeed had 57 states, I did not for a minute think he thought that or he was an idiot.
So why is it, really this is a question for the lefties on this forum, that Perry is unfit to run for office and is just a stupid Texan just like Bush because he forgot something under the pressure of the campaign?
I wonder if that is why Obama has EVERYTHING written for him and put on a teleprompter. Is it because he is an idiot? Probably not. So should we just allow teleprompters for everyone on the debates so they have the same advantage as the bully pulpit of the president?
It would be nice to see some real honesty from some of the dems on what they think about this instead of the party line.

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Up until that point I think Perry was doing very well in articulating his positions. The media is going to attempt to destroy any Republican; any conservative. The mainstream media has lost all control after their success with Bork. Politics has been a sewer ever since.

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BUT teleprompters are for speeches, when questioned by media on various subjects then you are on your own!!

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After Rick Perry forgot something during the debate I was amazed at the press frenzy over such a minor thing.
Everyone in media on the left seems to think there is blood in the water and they are attacking beyond belief.
Now when Obama pointed out to us, to my surprise that we indeed had 57 states, I did not for a minute think he thought that or he was an idiot.
So why is it, really this is a question for the lefties on this forum, that Perry is unfit to run for office and is just a stupid Texan just like Bush because he forgot something under the pressure of the campaign?
I wonder if that is why Obama has EVERYTHING written for him and put on a teleprompter. Is it because he is an idiot? Probably not. So should we just allow teleprompters for everyone on the debates so they have the same advantage as the bully pulpit of the president?
It would be nice to see some real honesty from some of the dems on what they think about this instead of the party line.

Perry has been wasting our air time from debate number one. Lets focus on Romney.

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Perry has been wasting our air time from debate number one. Lets focus on Romney.

No thanks, I'll keep on listening to all candidates on until the last one is standing, hopefully Cain.

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No thanks, I'll keep on listening to all candidates on until the last one is standing, hopefully Cain.

All the Dem's are hoping the same thing you are. I think I would go with Huntsman before Cain. I am afraid the non-Christian thing will hurt them.

Maybe Obama will do better in his second term.

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Wonder why he is not on the Republican hit parade!!




All the Dem's are hoping the same thing you are. I think I would go with Huntsman before Cain. I am afraid the non-Christian thing will hurt them.

Maybe Obama will do better in his second term.

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All the Dem's are hoping the same thing you are. I think I would go with Huntsman before Cain. I am afraid the non-Christian thing will hurt them.

Maybe Obama will do better in his second term.

Dems are played same game when we picked RINO McCain. Do not need a flip flop Romney.

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Does not matter who get picked. They are all cut from the same cloth. Nothing will change, the congress will keep ingoring the Constitution, the President, whomever, will keep making Czars and guess who will keep getting screwed.

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All the Dem's are hoping the same thing you are. I think I would go with Huntsman before Cain. I am afraid the non-Christian thing will hurt them.

Maybe Obama will do better in his second term.

Seriously?; He might do better in his second term? A lame duck socialist inclined President with nothing to lose?

Better for who?

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Perry has been wasting our air time from debate number one. Lets focus on Romney.

Romney is stagnant; Gingrich in on the rise. Stay tuned.

We may be able to do much much better than the "father of ObamaCare" if the trends hold for a while.

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Obama, the socialist and teleprompter reader, better hope that Gingrich doesn't win the nomination. Gingrich would wrap that twerp Obama around his little finger in a debate. It is not an urban myth that Gingrich is the smartest person when he steps into a room.

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Any of ya'll collecting Social Security yet? Maybe you refuse it because it would make you a socialist possibly? Just curious.

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Any of ya'll collecting Social Security yet? Maybe you refuse it because it would make you a socialist possibly? Just curious.

You are kidding...right?
Money is TAKEN from the working person under the ruse that it will be put aside for that person's retirement. Then to collect it makes said person a socialist?
Since I am not a socialist...can I opt out and keep my money? Oh, guess not since there are not icicles in hell yet.:oops:

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You are kidding...right?
Money is TAKEN from the working person under the ruse that it will be put aside for that person's retirement. Then to collect it makes said person a socialist?
Since I am not a socialist...can I opt out and keep my money? Oh, guess not since there are not icicles in hell yet.:oops:

Nope, just notice the "Socialist" name calling here and was curious who was truly a believer in that. I now that it will lead to name calling on me and frankly I don't mind since the source means nothing to me.

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Nope, just notice the "Socialist" name calling here and was curious who was truly a believer in that. I now that it will lead to name calling on me and frankly I don't mind since the source means nothing to me.

Well, if it means nothing to you, why should anyone bother to enter into a conversation with you? Peace comrade.

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Obama, the socialist and teleprompter reader, better hope that Gingrich doesn't win the nomination. Gingrich would wrap that twerp Obama around his little finger in a debate. It is not an urban myth that Gingrich is the smartest person when he steps into a room.



LOL - yeah, Newt the adulterer is the smartest person when he steps into a room, provided the room is full of Repubes and **********.

Newt.... Newt ..... mmmm ..... isn't he the same guy whose own Conference kicked him out?

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Well, if it means nothing to you, why should anyone bother to enter into a conversation with you? Peace comrade.

No, the name calling bothers me but not to me. So call me want you want. I'm curious about who is collecting from a "socialist" program. I'm going to.

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LOL - yeah, Newt the adulterer is the smartest person when he steps into a room, provided the room is full of Repubes and **********.

Newt.... Newt ..... mmmm ..... isn't he the same guy whose own Conference kicked him out?

Yep, where were his conservative values?

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Nope, just notice the "Socialist" name calling here and was curious who was truly a believer in that. I now that it will lead to name calling on me and frankly I don't mind since the source means nothing to me.

I'll take it one step further, since I personally haven't collected one red cent from Social Security...If someone takes a payment from you, promising to provide a service at a later date, then that someone renigs on the deal...I think that is THEFT and BREACH of CONTRACT. That kinda thing usually lands someone in JAIL, Brutha!
Looks like you haven't collected yet either, so don't count any chickens until they are hatched...we will either never collect or we will die in harness, since we will have to work until we are ancient history before we are eligible...

and as far as refusing it for fear of being labeled a socialist...it was my money to begin with! Had I been FREE to invest it on my own, things would be far different.

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I'll take it one step further...If someone takes a payment from you, promising to provide a service at a later date, then that someone renigs on the deal...I think that is THEFT and BREACH of CONTRACT. That kinda thing usually lands someone in JAIL, Brutha!

I agree. Worked all my life for it. Wasn't me that mismanaged it.

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No, the name calling bothers me but not to me. So call me want you want. I'm curious about who is collecting from a "socialist" program. I'm going to.

I didn't call you anything but "comrade", because your defining of Social Security as "socialist" and your arrogance in your question was a turn off.

If you want conversation, do you normally begin with provocation? Reread you earlier post and tell me I'm wrong. (don't worry "I don't care about the source" either)

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I didn't call you anything but "comrade", because your defining of Social Security as "socialist" and your arrogance in your question was a turn off.

If you want conversation, do you normally begin with provocation? Reread you earlier post and tell me I'm wrong. (don't worry "I don't care about the source" either)

I should like being called "comrade"? Anyway, a simple question here can get a person flamed so I was preempting that with the "I don't care"

Now what is your definition of a socialist?

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I agree. Worked all my life for it. Wasn't me that mismanaged it.

It is possible that you and I may never receive it, making this conversation totally moot:shrug:
...I think it was Al Gore who said our money was safe in "a lock box". :oops:

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It is possible that you and I may never receive it, making this conversation totally moot:shrug:
...I think it was Al Gore who said our money was safe in "a lock box". :oops:

As long as Congress can raid it, we may not see it. But then my home is not worth what it should be either. That's where I've been putting my nut through the years. Bad choice.

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Social Security was devised as a mandatory federal insurance program that was to be funded through payroll taxes called the Federal Insurance Contributions Act tax (FICA). The money is then handled by insurance trust funds.

Is "retirement insurance" a socialist program? It originally was supposed to be a fund that would grow with it own "trust" investments. Democrat administrations throughout the years raided these funds and now there is no actual "trust". It's paid out of General Fund monies as all payroll deduction that was to pay for this "insurance" is squandered on a daily basis by our government.

Still, the program is not optional. Money has been taken from me involuntarily for 45 years to provide this "retirement insurance".

So now if I collect on the government's promise I must march stiff legged at Red Square? I don't think so.

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:a040:fortunately my treasures are stored elsewhere...:a040:

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Social Security was devised as a mandatory federal insurance program that was to be funded through payroll taxes called the Federal Insurance Contributions Act tax (FICA). The money is then handled by insurance trust funds.

Is "retirement insurance" a socialist program? It originally was supposed to be a fund that would grow with it own "trust" investments. Democrat administrations throughout the years raided these funds and now there is no actual "trust". It's paid out of General Fund monies as all payroll deduction that was to pay for this "insurance" is squandered on a daily basis by our government.

Still, the program is not optional. Money has been taken from me involuntarily for 45 years to provide this "retirement insurance".

So now if I collect on the government's promise I must march stiff legged at Red Square? I don't think so.

:bigbow::bigbow:

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Social Security was devised as a mandatory federal insurance program that was to be funded through payroll taxes called the Federal Insurance Contributions Act tax (FICA). The money is then handled by insurance trust funds.

Is "retirement insurance" a socialist program? It originally was supposed to be a fund that would grow with it own "trust" investments. Democrat administrations throughout the years raided these funds and now there is no actual "trust". It's paid out of General Fund monies as all payroll deduction that was to pay for this "insurance" is squandered on a daily basis by our government.

Still, the program is not optional. Money has been taken from me involuntarily for 45 years to provide this "retirement insurance".

So now if I collect on the government's promise I must march stiff legged at Red Square? I don't think so.

Are you sure it was raided purely by Democrat administrations? OK, so Social Security isn't in your definition of socialist. Glad to hear that. I can now feel no guilt when I start collecting.

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Are you sure it was raided purely by Democrat administrations? OK, so Social Security isn't in your definition of socialist. Glad to hear that. I can now feel no guilt when I start collecting.
Start collecting?
Let's see, the house didn't pan out...may I venture to say, because of the government?!
Like I said...don't count chickens that haven't hatched yet either.

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Any of ya'll collecting Social Security yet? Maybe you refuse it because it would make you a socialist possibly? Just curious.

Just so you know, it's the Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics' and Cuba's socialism (equal distribution of misery) that we are against.

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Are you sure it was raided purely by Democrat administrations? OK, so Social Security isn't in your definition of socialist. Glad to hear that. I can now feel no guilt when I start collecting.

Yes, I'm sure that the democrats were the ones that opened the floodgates.

Does the expression The war on Poverty mean anything to you? You know, The Great Society? How about the VietNam war?
President Johnson started using the SS funds for his personal pet projects in the 60's.

So, how is that 46 years of war on poverty working out for us? It did give us our first Affirmative Action President. I rest my case.:oops:

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Start collecting?
Let's see, the house didn't pan out...may I venture to say, because of the government?!
Like I said...don't count chickens that haven't hatched yet either.

Oh my house will pan out, just not when I thought. Government fault? I fail to see what they have to do with it.

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Oh my house will pan out, just not when I thought. Government fault? I fail to see what they have to do with it.

A chicken in every pot...
Everyone has a right to own a home...
????

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Yes, I'm sure that the democrats were the ones that opened the floodgates.

Does the expression The war on Poverty mean anything to you? You know, The Great Society? How about the VietNam war?
President Johnson started using the SS funds for his personal pet projects in the 60's.

So, how is that 46 years of war on poverty working out for us? It did give us our first Affirmative Action President. I rest my case.:oops:

Glad it stopped from 2000 to 2008 and also those Nixon, Reagan and GHWB years.

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A chicken in every pot...
Everyone has a right to own a home...
????

Your right Katz, the government was pushing for everybody to buy a house. It was only a matter of time that the housing bubble would burst.

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A chicken in every pot...
Everyone has a right to own a home...
????

Oh, the American Dream.

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Your right Katz, the government was pushing for everybody to buy a house. It was only a matter of time that the housing bubble would burst.

I thought is was the mortgage brokers/bankers. A buck was to be made.

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Are you sure it was raided purely by Democrat administrations? OK, so Social Security isn't in your definition of socialist. Glad to hear that. I can now feel no guilt when I start collecting.

There is a "socialist" aspect of it. It definitely was devised for the "social good". But it was more of a "group insurance" plan than a "government payroll plan". Today since it's paid with the taxes collected and not actually from an "insurance trust fund", it's status is more socialism than ever.

Conservatives have been trying to "fix" this plan for years. They are deterred by the incessant caterwauling of the Democrats and their accomplices in the lamestream media that Grandma's going to be eating cat food.

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Glad it stopped from 2000 to 2008 and also those Nixon, Reagan and GHWB years.

Funny about government programs and taxes. Very easy to start and almost impossible to stop. Once the beast gets his daily fill, a diet is out of the equation.

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There is a "socialist" aspect of it. It definitely was devised for the "social good". But it was more of a "group insurance" plan than a "government payroll plan". Today since it's paid with the taxes collected and not actually from an "insurance trust fund", it's status is more socialism than ever.

Conservatives have been trying to "fix" this plan for years. They are deterred by the incessant caterwauling of the Democrats and their accomplices in the lamestream media that Grandma's going to be eating cat food.

I don't understand why folks that have, let's say a lung ailment, can collect from the social security fund (disability)?? and still smoke, drink and raise Hell. It really ****es me off.

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Funny about government programs and taxes. Very easy to start and almost impossible to stop. Once the beast gets his daily fill, a diet is out of the equation.

The problem is on The Hill. That's the change we need. All of them.

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Oh, the American Dream.


I believe that the American Dream is the Right to Life, Liberty and the pursute of Happiness.
I was always taught that meant that you could work and hard, enjoy the fruits of your own labor, and pretty much be master of your own destiny. The government didn't dumb down the loan officer that granted me a loan to buy a home. No banker in their right mind gives out a loan to someone who cannot pay it back...duh.
BTW, I'm starting to wonder what is being inhaled in Virginia this afternoon.

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Just so you know, it's the Union of Soviet SOCIALIST Republics' and Cuba's socialism (equal distribution of misery) that we are against.

OK, thought maybe it was Franklin's Democratic Republic.

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I believe that the American Dream is the Right to Life, Liberty and the pursute of Happiness.
I was always taught that meant that you could work and hard, enjoy the fruits of your own labor, and pretty much be master of your own destiny. The government didn't dumb down the loan officer that granted me a loan to buy a home. No banker in their right mind gives out a loan to someone who cannot pay it back...duh.
BTW, I'm starting to wonder what is being inhaled in Virginia this afternoon.

Your BS

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Your BS

Wow, I do not think that is proper protocol around here.:rant-rave:

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Wow, I do not think that is proper protocol around here.:rant-rave:

I never inhaled:p

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I guess you can't always judge a book by it's cover :shocked:

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Lets open a hunting season on the unemployed, grind up their bodies for dog food. That would cut down on the evil ones that don't pay into the TAX pool.

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I guess you can't always judge a book by it's cover :shocked:

Hahahahaha :jester:

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Lets open a hunting season on the unemployed, grind up their bodies for dog food. That would cut down on the evil ones that don't pay into the TAX pool.

Need a better plan...this one won't benefit me since I don't have a dog. Too busy logging miles on my Cannondale Synapse...870 miles so far this year!
:wave: Welcome back!

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I thought is was the mortgage brokers/bankers. A buck was to be made.

Even with the mortgage brokers/bankers being crooks, in the end, the home buyer/mortgagee signed the promissory note in light of their income and all other living expenses.

We've met people many times who told us that when they got pre-qualified to buy a home, they were told by lenders that they could afford a house tens and hundreds of thousands more than they KNEW they could afford. They had the sense and morals to not sign onto so much mortgage debt as the lenders were luring them into.

The old adage, "Buyer beware" still applies, in any lender/borrower transaction!

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Lets open a hunting season on the unemployed, grind up their bodies for dog food. That would cut down on the evil ones that don't pay into the TAX pool.

I love the smell of Soylent Green in the morning.:beer3:

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Need a better plan...this one won't benefit me since I don't have a dog :wave:

Ya caught me just as I was sending my permit request off to Washington. OH Well, I will come up with something else.

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Even with the mortgage brokers/bankers being crooks, in the end, the home buyer/mortgagee signed the promissory note in light of their income and all other living expenses.

We've met people many times who told us that when they got pre-qualified to buy a home, they were told by lenders that they could afford a house tens and hundreds of thousands more than they KNEW they could afford. They had the sense and morals to not sign onto so much mortgage debt as the lenders were luring them into.

The old adage, "Buyer beware" still applies, in any lender/borrower transaction!

Yes, so I was curious why folks said it was the Governments fault?

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Fannie Mae...Freddie Mac.

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I believe that the American Dream is the Right to Life, Liberty and the pursute of Happiness.
I was always taught that meant that you could work and hard, enjoy the fruits of your own labor, and pretty much be master of your own destiny. The government didn't dumb down the loan officer that granted me a loan to buy a home. No banker in their right mind gives out a loan to someone who cannot pay it back...duh.
BTW, I'm starting to wonder what is being inhaled in Virginia this afternoon.

so all those "toxic loans" I heard about came from where? Oh BTW, I didn't want ti imply that had built a home that I couldn't afford or a loan like that. My gripe is it's not worth what it was and I can't sell it and come down there and join the fun.

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That's right, the benevolent hand of the government got the better of a FEW people who aren't smart enough to know better...Kinda like most of the democratic social programs that have people suckered in.
How is much different from this-Uncle Sam takes my money to invest for my retirement, because it's soooo nice of the government to look out for little ole me who doesn't have sense to look out for myself. OH, that's right, that's not working out so well either...

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Lets open a hunting season on the unemployed, grind up their bodies for dog food. That would cut down on the evil ones that don't pay into the TAX pool.

Once again you are a dollar short and a day late. Season is already open, only the ones they are hunting are the working stuffs. :wave:

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so all those "toxic loans" I heard about came from where? Oh BTW, I didn't want ti imply that had built a home that I couldn't afford or a loan like that. My gripe is it's not worth what it was and I can't sell it and come down there and join the fun.


I hear ya! :wave:

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That's right, the benevolent hand of the government got the better of a FEW people who aren't smart enough to know better...Kinda like most of the democratic social programs that have people suckered in.
How is much different from this-Uncle Sam takes my money to invest for my retirement, because it's soooo nice of the government to look out for little ole me who doesn't have sense to look out for myself. OH, that's right, that's not working out so well either...

I put in 20 yrs with a "private sector" company chasing the pension. But wait, we are downsizing and you won't get your pensions. Geez, who was looking out for me then? Nobody. Now in the other sector chasing another pension. Could lose that too? :rant-rave:

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Once again you are a dollar short and a day late. Season is already open, only the ones they are hunting are the working stuffs. :wave:

Ain't that the truth!:shrug:

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I put in 20 yrs with a "private sector" company chasing the pension. But wait, we are downsizing and you won't get your pensions. Geez, who was looking out for me then? Nobody. Now in the other sector chasing another pension. Could lose that too? :rant-rave:

In all sincerity-I feel your pain and you have my sympathy :beer3: ... we hard working Americans need to stick together and CLEAN OUT WASHINGTON DC!

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In all sincerity-I feel your pain and you have my sympathy :beer3: ... we hard working Americans need to stick together and CLEAN OUT WASHINGTON DC!

Indeed! :agree: :ho:

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Gosh after reading this thread and all I can say is many of you seem a bit frisky. It would seem more productive to direct that energy, intellect and aggression toward the real source of the problem,,,,President and Congress

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Gosh after reading this thread and all I can say is many of you seem a bit frisky. It would seem more productive to direct that energy, intellect and aggression toward the real source of the problem,,,,President and Congress

Just getting a little workout. It's a long time til we get to pull the lever.

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As the original poster on this thread it has occurred to me that this thread has developed just like social security has and as most government programs have.
It started out as one thing and in just a few days it is a totally different thing all together.
It has been amusing!
I plan on collecting ss if it is there in about 5 years and I will not consider myself a socialist. I however will feel like I have been ripped off because I could have invested that money much better.
Now what was this thread about?? I forgot!

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As the original poster on this thread it has occurred to me that this thread has developed just like social security has and as most government programs have.
It started out as one thing and in just a few days it is a totally different thing all together.
It has been amusing!
I plan on collecting ss if it is there in about 5 years and I will not consider myself a socialist. I however will feel like I have been ripped off because I could have invested that money much better.
Now what was this thread about?? I forgot!

Hey, with us oldtimers all conversation eventually leads to Social Security, Medicare, doctors, medication, and some more things I'm having trouble remembering. It's inevitable.

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Thanks for being so gracious about us having pirated your thread...we did have alot of fun!:wave:

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As the original poster on this thread it has occurred to me that this thread has developed just like social security has and as most government programs have.
It started out as one thing and in just a few days it is a totally different thing all together.
It has been amusing!
I plan on collecting ss if it is there in about 5 years and I will not consider myself a socialist. I however will feel like I have been ripped off because I could have invested that money much better.
Now what was this thread about?? I forgot!

Tell me an investment that hasn't suffered. We were talking investments, right?

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Tell me an investment that hasn't suffered. We were talking investments, right?

My business!! I would have invested it in my business and made much more than the government ever did. as if they made anything for me with it.
Also my bonds aren't doing that bad!
I would have invested in real estate more. I don't know how it is where you live but it was a good deal here and never really did get bad like what we here in the media.
Or I guess I could give it all to a congressman and hope he takes care of it over the years!! I wonder how that would work out, Oh I guess I will find out soon.

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My business!! I would have invested it in my business and made much more than the government ever did. as if they made anything for me with it.
Also my bonds aren't doing that bad!
I would have invested in real estate more. I don't know how it is where you live but it was a good deal here and never really did get bad like what we here in the media.
Or I guess I could give it all to a congressman and hope he takes care of it over the years!! I wonder how that would work out, Oh I guess I will find out soon.

Well, my real estate went to hell in a hand basket. My Grand Father, long gone, told me way back when to forget real estate. I didn't listen.

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I don't think real estate is over. There will always be a need for housing and businesses expand. If they don't then all of this does not matter anyway. I don't plan for it all to go to hell, I plan on it getting better and it will.
I hope the biggest leap forward will be in 2012 with a new leader or should I say A LEADER.

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I don't think real estate is over. There will always be a need for housing and businesses expand. If they don't then all of this does not matter anyway. I don't plan for it all to go to hell, I plan on it getting better and it will.
I hope the biggest leap forward will be in 2012 with a new leader or should I say A LEADER.

Hoping along with you.
In the meantime, land is one thing that isn't being made any more, so it will always bounce back.

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Hoping along with you.
In the meantime, land is one thing that isn't being made any more, so it will always bounce back.

Whelp, that's what I'm banking on. If there are any old yuppies out there that want to and can afford to move to the country, were are waiting for them.

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Well, my real estate went to hell in a hand basket. My Grand Father, long gone, told me way back when to forget real estate. I didn't listen.

Your whining will not solve your problem.

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I put in 20 yrs with a "private sector" company chasing the pension. But wait, we are downsizing and you won't get your pensions. Geez, who was looking out for me then? Nobody. Now in the other sector chasing another pension. Could lose that too? :rant-rave:

Gee, life is tough, huh? Security isn't everything.

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so all those "toxic loans" I heard about came from where? Oh BTW, I didn't want ti imply that had built a home that I couldn't afford or a loan like that. My gripe is it's not worth what it was and I can't sell it and come down there and join the fun.
Lower your price to reasonable expectations?

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Your whining will not solve your problem.

I'm still working, not whining.

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I'm still working, not whining.

Gee, had me fooled. Must be my aluminum hat.

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Lower your price to reasonable expectations?

Not yet so foreign interest buy my million dollar view cheap. No way. Thats what the chinese want.

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Gee, life is tough, huh? Security isn't everything.

no silver spoons here.

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Gee, had me fooled. Must be my aluminum hat.

LOL:clap2: