Woman's dead body found

[bkcunningham1]

I don't know anything officially, so what I'm writing is just from neighbors who were interviewed by police this morning. A woman's body was found near the green at the third hole of the Orange Blossom Country Club Golf Course early this morning, Monday 3-12, by a golf course maintainence worker.

The course was eventually opened but traffic was diverted around the area. Neighbors were asked if they heard gunshots, so we are assuming she was shot. That's all I know. I looked on the online scanner feed to see if there was anything there, but it wasn't up-to-date.

[graciegirl]

omg BK!

[orgunvs]

I love a good mystery. Never missed a CSI. I feel terrible for the poor lady. Does anyone know how old she was or where on her body was she shot? Please keep us updated on this. Want to bet that someone has blood in their golf cart?

[graciegirl]

I love a good mystery. Never missed a CSI. I feel terrible for the poor lady. Does anyone know how old she was or where on her body was she shot? Please keep us updated on this. Want to bet that someone has blood in their golf cart?

We aren't watching TV here. This is a person dead and probably a villager!

[paulandjean]

Wait and see.to early to say"she probably a villager".

[Taltarzac725]

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[Pathel]

Wait and see.to early to say"she probably a villager".

Of course, logic and common sense says she is probably a villager.

And orgunvs, to say you love a good mystery and never miss CSI, sounds like you are making light of a very serious and tragic situation.

[missypie]

Does not mean victim is a Villager just because she was found there. Could have been "dropped off".

[Pathel]

Does not mean victim is a Villager just because she was found there. Could have been "dropped off".

Thought the word "PROBABLY" was used.

Need to know the facts.

[Taltarzac725]

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[Bogie Shooter]

Wait and see.to early to say"she probably a villager".

What possible difference does this make??

[missypie]

Thought the word "PROBABLY" was used.

Need to know the facts.

Yes, probably should.:boxing2:

[graciegirl]

Tal, Help me here. I can't find anything that talks about this.

If you can, will you summarize?

[Taltarzac725]

Tal, Help me here. I can't find anything that talks about this.

If you can, will you summarize?

I cannot find anything either. There was a death today along the railroad tracks. A train hit a pick-up truck on the railroad tracks in unincorporated Lake/Sumter County at about 9:30 this morning.

"LAKE/SUMTER EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES ON SCENE TRAIN VS PICKUP TRUCK, DRIVER DEAD ON ARRIVAL/DECEASED, NO DERAILMENT [NCA043] "

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=375

[Happinow]

Talk about a twisted story.....

[paulandjean]

"The difference it can possiby make" Maybe some people on this site just jump to early conclusions. Have you heard she is from the villages. I have not heard that. Could it be someone from outside the villages maybe. Why not wait to we get some facts.I do not think the police will say,found on the third hole golf course in the villages,sooooo-she must live here.Relax

[bkcunningham1]

I know Gracie. OMG. I live on the second hole and she was found just behind the third green. My little cul-de-sac is all abuzz. I may have to send a tip to the Daily Commercial newspaper. We haven't heard anything else. I'll keep you posted if I hear anything.

The only facts I do know are, 1)the police were called, 2)a dead female was discovered, 3) neighbors were questioned and asked if they heard (a) gunshot(s). (I don't know if they were asked if they heard a shot or shots. Either way, we assumed she was shot or maybe even shot herself.)

[graciegirl]

I know Gracie. OMG. I live on the second hole and she was found just behind the third green. My little cul-de-sac is all abuzz. I may have to send a tip to the Daily Commercial newspaper. We haven't heard anything else. I'll keep you posted if I hear anything.

The only facts I do know are, 1)the police were called, 2)a dead female was discovered, 3) neighbors were questioned and asked if they heard (a) gunshot(s). (I don't know if they were asked if they heard a shot or shots. Either way, we assumed she was shot or maybe even shot herself.)

One thing I know BK, when you type something, it is NOT speculation. It is not rumor. You are the journalist you have been all of your life.

I am sure you have heard gossip about who it might be but would not say until you knew more, as to whether it was a villager or not.

One's mind jumps to all kinds of conclusions.

It is sad. I have to think it is a villager. Her body would have had to be brought through someone's yard to place her in the middle of the golf course. Or...Maybe not. Is this part of the course surrounded by homes, BK?

[Happinow]

This is off the charts! My God. The facts will come out and I feel freaked out by this.

[memason]

We played OB today and the starter told us about the dead woman, before we headed out on number 1. Said she was found behind the green. He didn't have any information other than what has been reported here...woman and a gun found at the scene. I walked around the back of the green, but didn't see evidence of anything happening there.

I'm sure there'll be something in tomorrow's Daily Sun about it.

[chuckinca]

Looking at the Google maps I believe the third green of Orange Blossom is near the portion of Schwartz Blvd that is parallel with the Lake/Marion county line and about a block West of the entrance of Hibiscus Dr (which should be called a court as it has no other inlet/outlet). The third green is surrounded by houses on three sides.

My aunt and uncle live at the East end of Hibiscus about a block from Schwartz. I just called them and they hadn't heard of any police activity on Schwartz near Hibiscus today - two blocks away. My uncle said he went to Paradise Center in the morning and drove there mainly on Schwartz.


Should be on the front page of the Daily Sun tomorrow!


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[bkcunningham1]

One thing I know BK, when you type something, it is NOT speculation. It is not rumor. You are the journalist you have been all of your life.

I am sure you have heard gossip about who it might be but would not say until you knew more, as to whether it was a villager or not.

One's mind jumps to all kinds of conclusions.

It is sad. I have to think it is a villager. Her body would have had to be brought through someone's yard to place her in the middle of the golf course. Or...Maybe not. Is this part of the course surrounded by homes, BK?

Yes, Gracie, this part of the course is surrounded by homes. There is a cart crossing for the course across Kaufman Circle between holes three and four. The body was found fairly close to this crossing point. Kaufman Circle is off of Schwartz, which is a main road on this side of TV. But the cart path goes all around the course behind our homes here too.

[golf2140]

Remember, as we get older and lose our life time partner, things happen. If this is true, may she rest in peace.

[Tweety Bird]

What a way to go. In your golf cart!!

[elevatorman]

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[Taltarzac725]

If it was a suicide they may not report it in the newspaper. I had heard that its usually policy not to report suicides in some papers so as not to encourage them through attention. Not sure if this is the policy at the Villages Daily Sun.

http://www.poynter.org/uncategorized/18183/reporting-on-suicide/

There were some suicides on my street when we lived in Reno, NV and I never saw them reported in the newspaper. There would be an obituary but it would not mention the suicide.

[Skybo]

Perhaps we should resist our natural instinct to speculate and gossip. And please remember that this person might have family members who might end up reading our postings here.

[Barefoot]

Perhaps we should resist our natural instinct to speculate and gossip. And please remember that this person might have family members who might end up reading our postings here.

Thanks Skybo.

[Penguin]

Perhaps we should resist our natural instinct to speculate and gossip. And please remember that this person might have family members who might end up reading our postings here.

Well said.:bigbow: I'll wait for the facts

[SALYBOW]

In the Village of Buttonwood we are starting an AED external defibrillator program in the Queen Palm section so that if a person is out for a walk or on the courses and experienced cardiac or pulmonary arrest a set of trained res ponders will be contacted by the 911 operators and they will respond to the emergency, I imagine ti reason we are doing this is because the demographics and the climate of the area have made us aware that there might be a real need for a person to have their heart started before EMTS can get there.
:BigApplause::BigApplause:

I say Bravo.

The reason for saying this is that any person out walking can collapse and need resuscitation , Possibly this was the case there but help didn't come fast enough. I would like to say prayers of commendation for her so that her soul is lifted up in the way she dreamed it would be and that she is enjoying her eternal reward.

[villages07]

Nothing in today's Daily Sun.... a little surprising, but, we'll give it another day. As someone noted earlier, if it was a suicide, it would not get the same "news" coverage.

[graciegirl]

Nothing in today's Daily Sun.... a little surprising, but, we'll give it another day. As someone noted earlier, if it was a suicide, it would not get the same "news" coverage.

And, if it were more sinister the police report may not yet be available to the press. Something like an "ongoing investigation". Our Sun doesn't seem to want to send their reporters out to interview neighbors in a situation like this. There weren't any comments from neighbors in the paper when that woman shot her husband. Just that it happened.

I guess we will hear in time.

Nothing on the TV stations either. Anything in the commercial or the Sentinel?

[Graytop]

And, if it were more sinister the police report may not yet be available to the press. Something like an "ongoing investigation". Our Sun doesn't seem to want to send their reporters out to interview neighbors in a situation like this. There weren't any comments from neighbors in the paper when that woman shot her husband. Just that it happened.

I guess we will hear in time.

Nothing on the TV stations either. Anything in the commercial or the Sentinel?

Local reporters,....You mean Daisy Mooooon,....or Jessica Schuuuumakeeeerrrrrr? :)

[bluedog103]

This morning's Daily Commercial says an unidentified woman was found dead on the third hole of a golf course in The Villages. Lady Lake police call it a suicide, saying "there's nothing suspicious".

[memason]

Here's the link to the story in the Daily Commercial.

Daily Commercial - <p>Body found on golf course</p> (http://www.dailycommercial.com/News/LakeCounty/031312BodyFound-)

Mike

[Taltarzac725]

Here's the link to the story in the Daily Commercial.

Daily Commercial - <p>Body found on golf course</p> (http://www.dailycommercial.com/News/LakeCounty/031312BodyFound-)

Mike

Thanks for the link, memason. That's a sad story. Did not see anything in today's Villages Daily Sun about the person killed on the railroad tracks in the pick-up yesterday morning.

[Bill-n-Brillo]

Sad stuff - thanks for the updates.

Bill :)

[pooh]

Prayers for this poor woman and all who know and love her, as well as the woman who lost her life in an auto/train accident, are offered.

[CarGuys]

This morning's Daily Commercial says an unidentified woman was found dead on the third hole of a golf course in The Villages. Lady Lake police call it a suicide, saying "there's nothing suspicious".

Sad for the woman and those that stumbled upon her. :pray:

[Taltarzac725]

Prayers for this poor woman and all who know and love her, as well as the woman who lost her life in an auto/train accident, are offered.

Not sure if this was a woman in the pick-up truck on the train tracks. The source I got just said "driver".

[daca55]

Perhaps we should resist our natural instinct to speculate and gossip. And please remember that this person might have family members who might end up reading our postings here.


:agree:

[pooh]

Not sure is this was a woman in the pick-up truck on the train tracks. The source I got just said "driver".

It was the wife of a Sumter County deputy sheriff....train/auto crash in Bushnell.

Sumter train crash: Sumter deputy's wife killed in train crash - Orlando Sentinel (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-12/news/os-lk-sumter-train-accident-20120312_1_train-crash-gary-brannen-sheriff-s-office)

[Taltarzac725]

It was the wife of a Sumter County deputy sheriff....train/auto crash in Bushnell.

Sumter train crash: Sumter deputy's wife killed in train crash - Orlando Sentinel (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-12/news/os-lk-sumter-train-accident-20120312_1_train-crash-gary-brannen-sheriff-s-office)

Thanks for the information. That's sad.

[1978tbird]

Looks like there are two different incidents here:

Daily Commercial - <p>Body found on golf course</p> (http://www.dailycommercial.com/News/LakeCounty/031312BodyFound-)

Sumter train crash: Sumter deputy's wife killed in train crash - Orlando Sentinel (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-12/news/os-lk-sumter-train-accident-20120312_1_train-crash-gary-brannen-sheriff-s-office)


Both are very tragic and sad . . . . . .

[caseylou5]

Wait and see.to early to say"she probably a villager".

What difference does it make if she was a villager or not. she was a human being and that is all that counts.

[pooh]

Looks like there are two different incidents here:

Daily Commercial - <p>Body found on golf course</p> (http://www.dailycommercial.com/News/LakeCounty/031312BodyFound-)

Sumter train crash: Sumter deputy's wife killed in train crash - Orlando Sentinel (http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-12/news/os-lk-sumter-train-accident-20120312_1_train-crash-gary-brannen-sheriff-s-office)


Both are very tragic and sad . . . . . .

They are two tragic incidents, indeed.

[buggyone]

I have never understood how a car is involved in a crash with a train. The driver of the car basically has to either stop on the track or is racing to cross the track before the train. All the crossings around here have the crossing guard rails that come down well before the train arrives. There can be no accident. It is either suicide or alcohol related.

Of course, I do feel much sorrow for the officer.

[paulandjean]

Or the car stalled on the tracks. I have seen this happen.

[pooh]

I have never understood how a car is involved in a crash with a train. The driver of the car basically has to either stop on the track or is racing to cross the track before the train. All the crossings around here have the crossing guard rails that come down well before the train arrives. There can be no accident. It is either suicide or alcohol related.

Of course, I do feel much sorrow for the officer.

I do, also, especially because he arrived at the scene not knowing it was his wife involved in the crash. Other officers sent him back to the station before he became aware of what had happened.

Prayers for him and his family are offered.

[RichieB]

Or the car stalled on the tracks. I have seen this happen.

Or downright stupidity.

Several years ago, we had two cases of people listening too closely to their GPS devices. In both cases, the GPS told the driver to make a turn, and the drivers both turned onto railroad tracks, resulting in collisions with passenger commuter trains.

NO JOKE !!

[mfp509]

Not long ago, I was sitting at a railroad crossing with the gates down and in my sideview mirror I saw a car coming - then I watched in disbelief as the guy zig zagged through the downed gates. If he had stalled or been hit by the train, I was a "sitting duck" because he probably would have been pushed into me. That's how innocent people get killed - stupidity of others sometimes. :cus:

[kentucky blue]

Or the car stalled on the tracks. I have seen this happen.

Or............... like in Lexington over a year ago, a college student was on her cell phone texting her sister and did not see the train.

[bkcunningham1]

Perhaps we should resist our natural instinct to speculate and gossip. And please remember that this person might have family members who might end up reading our postings here.

You are right. I debated whether or not to make the original post. I let the sensational, thrill seeking, nosey part of me come out. But you are absolutely correct. I feel like a heel. God bless her family and others whose lives were touched by this.

[Barefoot]

I have never understood how a car is involved in a crash with a train. The driver of the car basically has to either stop on the track or is racing to cross the track before the train. All the crossings around here have the crossing guard rails that come down well before the train arrives. There can be no accident. It is either suicide or alcohol related.

Or downright stupidity.

Hey guys, please, have a heart. :cry:

[RichieB]

Hey guys, please, have a heart. :cry:

I do have a heart, Barefoot, but I was pointing out an act of stupidity that could have gotten someone killed.

Sometimes, bad things happen out of acts of stupidity. In the two posts that you highlighted, a - crossing gates were placed for a reason, and, b - one should pay attention to what his GPS unit "says." They are very accurate, but they are a little "off."

"Just saying," and no disrespect meant to the suicide victim.

[islandgal]

on Page C-1:

"A 64-year-old woman found dead on a Villages golf course Monday died of an apparent suicide, according to the Lady Lake Police Dept.
Orange Blossom Hills golf course employees found the woman's body at about 7 a.m. and reported it to Lady Lake police."

[hedoman]

This thread was about a woman found dead at OB. Speculation and guesses were offered until the actual facts were known. Question answered but NOOOOOOO this thread has to continue with inane comments. This is why TOTV is being reduced to no more than an adult chat forum.

Again the truth of a previous post that too much misinformation is being offered because people want us to think they "Know" when in actuality they are making it up as they go....

It's killing the credibility of those posters who actually do know what's going on around here becuse there ARE here and have a thumb on the pulse.

Moving on.........

[Taltarzac725]

on Page C-1:

"A 64-year-old woman found dead on a Villages golf course Monday died of an apparent suicide, according to the Lady Lake Police Dept.
Orange Blossom Hills golf course employees found the woman's body at about 7 a.m. and reported it to Lady Lake police."

Thanks for the information, islandgal.

[nitehawk]

:BigApplause:This thread was about a woman found dead at OB. Speculation and guesses were offered until the actual facts were known. Question answered but NOOOOOOO this thread has to continue with inane comments. This is why TOTV is being reduced to no more than an adult chat forum.

Again the truth of a previous post that too much misinformation is being offered because people want us to think they "Know" when in actuality they are making it up as they go....

It's killing the credibility of those posters who actually do know what's going on around here becuse there ARE here and have a thumb on the pulse.

Moving on.........

[Bogie Shooter]

I have never understood how a car is involved in a crash with a train. The driver of the car basically has to either stop on the track or is racing to cross the track before the train. All the crossings around here have the crossing guard rails that come down well before the train arrives. There can be no accident. It is either suicide or alcohol related.

Of course, I do feel much sorrow for the officer.

Today's Daily Sun has an article on the accident. There were no arms or lights at this crossing. So this statement is not true......what was the source of your information about guard rails??

[De Lis]

I love a good mystery. Never missed a CSI. I feel terrible for the poor lady. Does anyone know how old she was or where on her body was she shot? Please keep us updated on this. Want to bet that someone has blood in their golf cart?

My God, how utterly insensitive! I am disgusted by your comment. I hope the woman can find peace now.

[jblum315]

I love a good mystery. Never missed a CSI. I feel terrible for the poor lady. Does anyone know how old she was or where on her body was she shot? Please keep us updated on this. Want to bet that someone has blood in their golf cart?

I have seen some mean and insensitive comments on TOTV but nothing to equal this one. For shame!

[redwitch]

As many of you know, I have Asperger's Syndrome (high-functioning autism). That means I have a wonderful tendency to put my foot in my mouth on a very regular basis since I will blurt out the first thing I think regardless of the pain it might cause another. Even at my worst, I would never make (or even think of) some of the comments I've seen in this thread. Some of you judged and condemned without facts (maybe the woman who had died in the train accident got distracted for one second, her foot slipped, she had a foot cramp, she had a seizure or a stroke or .... -- who knows); you made jokes about someone dying.

Imagine being only 64 years of age and feeling life is so meaningless there is nothing left. How much pain this poor woman must have been in. Imagine the pain her family and friends are feeling right now.

Imagine you're the husband or children of the woman who died in an accident. Their pain is incredible.

This is not the people of The Villages I've come to admire and, yes, love. Shame on those of you who made these comments.

[gerryann]

I was shocked by the original comment stating that a body had been found on a golf course......however, I was even more shocked at the insensitive postings that followed. very sad.....

[rubicon]

I was a pall bearer for my best friend ,as close to me as my brother, whom at the age of 34 committed suicide. My initial thought was that he had other choices and that this was a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

This poor woman obviouly believed there was no other choice. God rest her soul and may He provide for them comfort, understanding ,acceptances and closure for those she left behind.

There are a number of reasons vehicles and trains collide. Too often it is because a vehicle tries to beat the gates before they are lowered or because they like to play chicken. It appears since this was the wife of a law enforcement officer that the likely reason was inattention. God rest her soul and may He proivde for them the comfort undertstanding and closure this family will need.

[islandgal]

This is not the people of The Villages I've come to admire and, yes, love. Shame on those of you who made these comments.

:agree:......That things have changed quite a bit since we began posting in the newly-formed TOTV in 2007.
Perhaps it is the sign of the times, rapidly increasing population???? :shrug:

[graciegirl]

You are right. I debated whether or not to make the original post. I let the sensational, thrill seeking, nosey part of me come out. But you are absolutely correct. I feel like a heel. God bless her family and others whose lives were touched by this.

I do not see any of those things in your post and because I know you, that wouldn't be possible. You reported what you knew of sad and tragic news that happened in our small town.

You are a good person BK.

I feel sad for her family and I am sure, so does everyone. Sometimes typed words sound insensitive. She was one of us and she has gone. God rest her soul.

[duffysmom]

May she find the peace she didn't have on this earth. There but for the grace of God go any one of us.

BK you were reporting an incident that happened in your own backyard; the fact that it turned out to be a suicide had nothing to do with your reporting.
Rest easy.....

[RichieB]

May she find the peace she didn't have on this earth. There but for the grace of God go any one of us.

BK you were reporting an incident that happened in your own backyard; the fact that it turned out to be a suicide had nothing to do with your reporting.
Rest easy.....

Very well said.......


:agree:

[swimdawg]

May she find the peace she didn't have on this earth. There but for the grace of God go any one of us.

BK you were reporting an incident that happened in your own backyard; the fact that it turned out to be a suicide had nothing to do with your reporting.
Rest easy.....

I agree....

And may she....finally...RIP.

Very sad.

[ToolGirl624]

Yes this is a very sad incident..but..doesn't anyone think it's odd that 5 hrs after body found, that everything was cleared and ready for business? I live in OBG and its kinda scarry, usually there is yellow tape and lots of inquires...Is GOLF that great??

[pooh]

Yes this is a very sad incident..but..doesn't anyone think it's odd that 5 hrs after body found, that everything was cleared and ready for business? I live in OBG and its kinda scarry, usually there is yellow tape and lots of inquires...Is GOLF that great??

No, I don't think it's odd. The woman's body was removed. It was determined that she took her own life. I'm sure that conclusion was supported by evidence at the scene. Once it was determined that foul play was not involved in this instance, things should be back to what is normal for the area.

[Skybo]

You are right. I debated whether or not to make the original post. I let the sensational, thrill seeking, nosey part of me come out. But you are absolutely correct. I feel like a heel. God bless her family and others whose lives were touched by this.

bk, my post was not in response to anything that you wrote. It was partially in response to some other posts which I found in bad taste, and partially as a hopeful plea that future postings would be respectful. You have nothing to be sorry for.