It is sad...

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It is very sad that Trayvon Martin is dead.

What is more sad is the fact that this will now become fodder for the usual race baiters and anti-gun nuts to load their cannons with.

Everybody complains that they did not automatically arrest the shooter. The purpose of the law was to protect shooters who were defending themselves legally and legitimately.

I've been watching the news, even on Fox news, they refer to neighborhood watchmen as the "assailant." I have heard many stories already on the news of how the assailant followed Trayvon Martin and shot him.

The assailant claims that when he was returning to his car he was attacked by Trayvon Martin. The neighborhood watchmen did have injuries consistent with that story. I don't know what the truth is but let me ask you a question. If you were involved in a self-defense situation where someone attacked you and you shot them dead, you believe that you should be arrested and thrown in jail even though you have injuries consistent with your story.

It may be that the neighborhood watchmen of the racist and out to kill any ****** he could find. Time will tell. Would you want to rot in jail until they figured it out?

Just some thoughts I

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why?

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It is sad. Justice must be served. However, what I am waiting for is the grand standing by Al Sharpton, Jessee Jackson, and Eric Holder...Watch the political hay they make of this incident. I am sad because Holder's/Sharpton'sJ/ackson's action will only continue to ensure there is a racial divide becaue they will make this racial.

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It is very sad that Trayvon Martin is dead.

What is more sad is the fact that this will now become fodder for the usual race baiters and anti-gun nuts to load their cannons with.

Everybody complains that they did not automatically arrest the shooter. The purpose of the law was to protect shooters who were defending themselves legally and legitimately.

I've been watching the news, even on Fox news, they refer to neighborhood watchmen as the "assailant." I have heard many stories already on the news of how the assailant followed Trayvon Martin and shot him.

The assailant claims that when he was returning to his car he was attacked by Trayvon Martin. The neighborhood watchmen did have injuries consistent with that story. I don't know what the truth is but let me ask you a question. If you were involved in a self-defense situation where someone attacked you and you shot them dead, you believe that you should be arrested and thrown in jail even though you have injuries consistent with your story.

It may be that the neighborhood watchmen of the racist and out to kill any ****** he could find. Time will tell. Would you want to rot in jail until they figured it out?

Just some thoughts I

I don't believe that I would ever be in this situation because if the police told me not to follow him I WOULD have listened rather than being empowered by a 9mm in my holster. His injuries are also consistent with someone who pulls a gun on someone and they fight to keep you from killing them.....so yes, I guess we will see.

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Fortunately the whole episode was caught on the 911 tapes, so George Zimmerman doesn't have much of a defense whenever he is found and charged. The police chief temporarily stepped down today, and the investigating officers shouldn't be far behind. Evidently, Sanford seems to have a history of these types of problems.

The state of Florida will be the loser, as more people hear about this incident and decide to boycott the state.

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Here we go again: Mass hysteria, making political hay and the beginning of the "Oxbow Incident.". Will people ever learn?

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Here we go again: Mass hysteria, making political hay and the beginning of the "Oxbow Incident.". Will people ever learn?

I promised myself not to comment on this but it is and WILL BE SUCH a large political issue.....they are already in town. Sad case for everyone and now the politicians make THEIR hay !

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I don't believe that I would ever be in this situation because if the police told me not to follow him I WOULD have listened rather than being empowered by a 9mm in my holster. His injuries are also consistent with someone who pulls a gun on someone and they fight to keep you from killing them.....so yes, I guess we will see.

That is not the situation I offered you. You inserted your own situation and answered my question. That is not an honest tactic.

Nice try

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what happened to innocent until proven guilty?

Speculation? That is all there is. Not one piece of evidence has been presented yet.

The racists are all in town that being the NAACP, Sharpton and any other black with a recognized name to get their 15 seconds of fame.

Al Sharpton...a legal trained what? Calling for arrest and conviction. What happened to the hearing on whether there is to be a trial?

Guilty by media hype and black racists with the peddle to the metal.

Trial by mass emotion. Disgusting!!

I will wait to see what evidence is provided....not some super blacks blowing hard!!. These are not racial comments....just facts.

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Innocent until proven guilty is for the trial - after you're arrested.

The 911 tape has him practically hunting this kid down.

I think the case will hinge, based on what's come out to date, on how believable the girlfriend who was on the phone with him is. Will her testimony in court be like what's been released in the news - and will it stand up?

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The only thing certain is that Sharpton and all the race baiting hustlers and politicians will make sure the conclusion is that it was "racially motivated".....whether it was or was not so.

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Innocent until proven guilty is for the trial - after you're arrested.

The 911 tape has him practically hunting this kid down.

I think the case will hinge, based on what's come out to date, on how believable the girlfriend who was on the phone with him is. Will her testimony in court be like what's been released in the news - and will it stand up?

You must have heard tapes that I didn't hear. Or, you are creating that which you assume happens when when a white man with a gun meets a black man.

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Innocent until proven guilty is for the trial - after you're arrested.

The 911 tape has him practically hunting this kid down.

I think the case will hinge, based on what's come out to date, on how believable the girlfriend who was on the phone with him is. Will her testimony in court be like what's been released in the news - and will it stand up?

You must have heard tapes that I didn't hear. Or, you are creating that which you assume happens when when a white man with a gun meets a black man.

DJ is just commenting on the latest news reports which are starting to slant against the "neighborhood watcher", but I have to admit I was starting to wonder about his actions.

Only now, that the Rev. Sharpton of the Tawana Brawley hoax fame. Rev. Sharpton who demonstrated at Freddie's Discount Mart in Harlem in which he denounced the Jewish owner as a "white interloper, and his inflaming of the demonstration lead to a killing he was never charged with. Rev. Sharpton of the Crown Heights riots fame in which he helped to inflame tensions in which jews were beaten in the streets, their stores looted and which culminated with the inevitable murder of Yankel Rosenbaum is more blood on the hands of the Rev. Sharpton.

I lived in NY and it's close vicinity during these times and remember all the racial invective spewed by this man in the name of "civil rights".

I hope this story doesn't end with more blood on the hands of this "Reverend"

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Sharpton's mother died early Thursday morning. I guess going to the rally Thursday evening was more important than going to take care of arrangements. Also, the shooter was hispanic. This is very seldom mentioned.

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.. but I did find this article very interesting.

Josh Sugarmann: Trayvon Martin's Life One of Hundreds Ended by Concealed Carry Killers (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-sugarmann/trayvon-martin_b_1373642.html)

I have not figured out just who is yelling for "help" in the 911 tapes. Wonder if they could do a speech recognition test on that tape or have??

On another related point--using your common sense, Trayvon Martin's supporters sound like the more logical about what happened.

As to racism, my brother is in a mixed marriage (white-black) and sometimes encountered racism from both blacks and whites about their mixed marriage. They visited the Villages a few times and this even happened in the Villages but not so often as elsewhere.

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The gist I got from the stories I've read is that the guy saw Martin and was suspicious. He followed him and the cops, on the 911 call, told him to leave it to THEM. He then complained that the cops always let these kids get away. From that, it sounded like he was determined to DO something.

Look, we're very protective of gun rights here in NH - but this sounds sketchy. It sounds like a proper trial is needed.

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.. but I did find this article very interesting.

Josh Sugarmann: Trayvon Martin's Life One of Hundreds Ended by Concealed Carry Killers (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-sugarmann/trayvon-martin_b_1373642.html)

I have not figured out just who is yelling for "help" in the 911 tapes. Wonder if they could do a speech recognition test on that tape or have??

On another related point--using your common sense, Trayvon Martin's supporters sound like the more logical about what happened.

As to racism, my brother is in a mixed marriage (white-black) and sometimes encountered racism from both blacks and whites about their mixed marriage. They visited the Villages a few times and this even happened in the Villages but not so often as elsewhere.

It's pretty apparent who was yelling for "help" since the yelling stopped once the shot was fired.

If Rev Sharpton and Charles Blow, of the New York Times, and others had not brought this case to the forefront, it would have been swept under the rug and not even investigated. Meanwhile, the alleged shooter roams the streets with his 9mm semi-automatic weapon even though he has commited crimes in the past.

How can you claim self-defense when you're the one in the vehicle and the victim is on foot?

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gun rights is not the issue here.
The problem is emotional public reaction without real evidence....what the media is espousing is not evidence....it is almost all hear say.

It is as stated earlier a 100% racist celebrity showing, led by the poster children of hypocracy.

And yes if the guard were white all we would hear about is white VS black which is almost all we are hearing when it is a latino that is involved. And is it not of interest to some why this fact is never pronounced in the rantings?

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and yet another politician speaking out of racial emotion by stating the boy was killed because of the color of his skin...

Martin's death "compromises the integrity of our legal system and sets a horrific precedent of vigilante justice," Congressional Black Caucus Chair Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.) said in a statement. "As a nation we cannot, should not, and will not ignore, Trayvon's brutal murder and the inconceivable fact that his killer remains free. ... Trayvon had a family, friends and a future all taken away because of the color of his skin."

100% racist based for her to make such an inflammatory personal racist opinion and using the visibility of her position to speak with implied authority....with only one objective to secure her black constituency.....NOTHING more.

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and yet another politician speaking out of racial emotion by stating the boy was killed because of the color of his skin...

Martin's death "compromises the integrity of our legal system and sets a horrific precedent of vigilante justice," Congressional Black Caucus Chair Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.) said in a statement. "As a nation we cannot, should not, and will not ignore, Trayvon's brutal murder and the inconceivable fact that his killer remains free. ... Trayvon had a family, friends and a future all taken away because of the color of his skin."

100% racist based for her to make such an inflammatory personal racist opinion and using the visibility of her position to speak with implied authority....with only one objective to secure her black constituency.....NOTHING more.

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Congressman Emanuel Cleaver (D-MO) is a man.

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I knew that when I was typing....musta been a brain fart...

Gender aside my comments are still appropriate for the racial statement HE made.

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What is going on in this country...

An MSNBC host is saying the the language of Rush Limbaugh, Rick Santorum and Newt Gingerich set the tone and stage for the death of this young man.

Farrakhan has said there will be retaliation.

Al Sharpton is at the scene stoking the fires.

Those that I have heard speak or read quotes are demanding arrest, trial AND CONVICTION...IMMEDIATELY.

The President of the United States, who said he would not comment is commenting at length.

Here, in The Villages, on the political forum the case is being discussed.

This is a tragic case and there are tragic cases each day in this country but what is being done here is just wrong...just plain wrong. How does justice ever get done in this country in an arena like this ? I have no idea what happened as I do not in almost all cases that occur in this country each day!

I do know that a number of innocent people are presently being used and will continue to be used.

And add this to the mix...

"Nation of Islam representatives were on scene in Sanford, too, peddling merchandise and trying to enlist new recruits. James Muhammad, the assistant regional minister of the Nation of Islam’s seventh region, told TheDC that he and others from his organization were on scene because of “injustice.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/23/trayvon-martin-merchandise-spreads-through-florida-town-before-during-sharpton-rally/#ixzz1pyR7yOZe

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I place the blame squarely on the shoulders of the media for all this excitement. They blow everything up to ridiculous proportions and cause every media hungry charlatan out there to want to get a piece of the media attention for themselves, and it doesn't even matter what 'slant' the particular reporting agency has because they will blow it up to suit their own needs anyway...:22yikes::loco::cus::shrug:

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My god!....What is wrong with all you people. A young man is dead...you get it, dead. It makes me sick.

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My god!....What is wrong with all you people. A young man is dead...you get it, dead. It makes me sick.

I get it....everybody gets it. Everybody mourns for him. I was in the Tampa area recently where I attended the funeral of a policeman shot to death by a teen. Nobody from the national press attended....no racial leaders where there even though there were two races involved..no President has anything to say about it. It was tragic also.

No posts on here that I have seen have expressed anything but agony over the young mans death....the impetus to post on here, lets say for me anyway, is the political circus being made of this young boys death and the message it is sending.

I said when I made my first post that I didnt want to and I am so sorry I did...it is becoming..no, it already is...a red versus blue kind of thing. NOW THAT MAKES ME SICK. The boys God is taking care of him and him memory is being used.

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yes indeed we do get it.

Do you not get that his death is being exploited by every black opportunist including Obama and that exploitation is being magnified beyond reason by the media.

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Now, let's not get racial on here. One young man was killed in a needless fashion by another young man. It never should have happened.

It is just wrong to get on a racial bent here over a tragedy for both parties.

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I get it....everybody gets it. Everybody mourns for him. I was in the Tampa area recently where I attended the funeral of a policeman shot to death by a teen. Nobody from the national press attended....no racial leaders where there even though there were two races involved..no President has anything to say about it. It was tragic also.

No posts on here that I have seen have expressed anything but agony over the young mans death....the impetus to post on here, lets say for me anyway, is the political circus being made of this young boys death and the message it is sending.

I said when I made my first post that I didnt want to and I am so sorry I did...it is becoming..no, it already is...a red versus blue kind of thing. NOW THAT MAKES ME SICK. The boys God is taking care of him and him memory is being used.

Was the teen arrested and charged? All that people are asking for in this case is for the shooter to be arrested and put on trial and be judged by a jury of his peers and let the evidence go where it will.

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Shooting of Trayvon Martin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin)

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Shooting of Trayvon Martin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin)

How the heck is there a Trayvon Martin page on Wiki already? Who investigates and reports a story like this and then uploads it to Wiki?

I'm not making a comment about content, and I only skimmed it because this is an ongoing story and to make any kind of conclusion based on this link is pointless, but many people don't take Wiki with the huge grain of salt that is needed.

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and what if.....JUST WHAT IF.....contrary to all the emotion....evidence, that nobody has yet.....does not warrant an arrest? a trial?? a conviction???

Let's all hope that select mob "justice" does not prevail....because you could be next.

Until you live through a near mistake created by emotion and lack of evidence some of you being duped by the media's representation of justice being sought (by racist opportunists) have no idea what you are pursuing when making up your mind without the facts.

How about the hundreds of thousands of crimes/murders happening every day that are not getting the media and racist opportunities spot light? Are they not entitled to the same mob representation? Only if and when the media decides it is worthy of their pursuit to suck in the sheeple who thrive on it.

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How the heck is there a Trayvon Martin page on Wiki already? Who investigates and reports a story like this and then uploads it to Wiki?

I'm not making a comment about content, and I only skimmed it because this is an ongoing story and to make any kind of conclusion based on this link is pointless, but many people don't take Wiki with the huge grain of salt that is needed.

Check the References at the bottom of this Wikipedia page on Trayvon Martin. It also says its is a current event and may change very quickly.

I do not see any problem with Wikipedia for current politics and the like. Especially, if there are a lot of References you can check up on via the web.

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Ok, I guess the mob says let's just drag the shooter out and hang him. There is no need for evidence, justice..It's just a waste of time..Let's lynch him now
and that can be our new way of handling justice. Why wait..Of course if
anyone get's picked up for a crime we will do the same. Look at the new
Black Panthers..They have put a $10,000 bount on his head. Doesn't that sound familar, (e.g. Tomestone, etc.). The mob don't need a lousy Sheriff..The mob can handle this, they can march on his home, or cell and just drag him out and hang him. Where are the domonstrations against this
type of mob justice. Who is marching for fair justice? I guess they are hiding 'out behind their windows and watching the mob go by. All these old
movies where the citizens stood up for justice was just hollywiood rubish.
It is not important that he get a fair trial. What is important is that a mob
can accuse him and hang him. How sad we have been reduced to this!!
Many don't remember but in the 60's a reporter was asking questions on the
LA docks and ran into a man by the name of Eric Hoffa. He went on to become a major speaker for democracy and justice. He became very famous
and originally was just a Long Shoreman in LA. One thing he said was that
we have to be careful not to become a nation of "cowards". What is mob
justice without a trial of your peers? Is that mob justice and being
corwards?:mad:

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Now, let's not get racial on here. One young man was killed in a needless fashion by another young man. It never should have happened.

It is just wrong to get on a racial bent here over a tragedy for both parties.

buggyone: You and I agree. However by manner and action Sharpton Obama, et al are making this racial. zimmerman is a miniority whatever that means in today's world and he has black family and friends.

It is not fair to anyone to have an emotional crowd creating an Oxbow Incident mentality. Look what happened in the Casey Anthony matter.
Recall how many cases of murder went unanswered or a number of years and for a number of reasons until a break in the case changed things and the party of interest then became the named suspect and then proceeded to indictment, trial etc. Just because the Sanford Police had not yet arrested Zimmerman doesn 't necessiate that they were in the wrong

Sharpton and Obama wouldserve their purpose better by speaking out against black on black crime rather than use events such as this to bolster their positions. ITS PLAIN TACKY. And these goings on only drive a deeper wedge between the races.

By the way I can't remember when I ever agreed with Geraldo Rivera. However, I actually believe there is truth to his allegations of the "hoodie" as a cause because wearing one especially in warm weather leaves me with the impression that ther person is hiding something in the same manner as a person who covers up his mouth when speaking. Hmmmmmmmm. I am going to get on his website right now and email him and tell him I wholeheartedly agree with his assessment.

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buggyone: You and I agree. However by manner and action Sharpton Obama, et al are making this racial. zimmerman is a miniority whatever that means in today's world and he has black family and friends.

It is not fair to anyone to have an emotional crowd creating an Oxbow Incident mentality. Look what happened in the Casey Anthony matter.

What happened in the Casey Anthony matter is that she got a fair trial of her peers and was acquitted, after the taxpayers of Florida paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for her defense since she was indigent.

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What happened in the Casey Anthony matter is that she got a fair trial of her peers and was acquitted, after the taxpayers of Florida paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for her defense since she was indigent.

janMcn: Okey dokey

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It's like arguing with my ex-wife all over again.

People demanding an arrest and a trial of the shooter.

So the reaction is that the 'mob' wants to haul him off and lynch him.

Ok, maybe I missed some of the more extreme rhetoric, but every story I've seen SO FAR has been calling for Zimmerman's ARREST. The "mob" doesn't want him to get off scot-free based on the admittedly un-sworn evidence that is continuing to pile up.

This is like when I argued with my ex-wife that maybe, sometimes, I might like to hear a "thank you" from time to time and she would go all hyperbolic about how I wanted her bowing down and lavishing praise 24/7.

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There is some logic here that should be understood. There are groups who
have a $10K reward just to tell them where he is, there is Sharpton marching around rable rousing, there are people wearing hoodies to demonstrate that although he was wearing a hoodie he was still a nice guy, there is the eye
witness who said it was the guard being attacked, (key word here is eye
witness), there are "citizen marches" against the guard, and many and many so ons. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE POLICE WHO HAVE HEARD THE FACTS AND HAVE, AS YET NOT FILED AN ARREST WARRANT. WHO DO YOU BELIEVE THE ONES WHO HEARD THE FACTS OR THE ONES RABLE ROUSING? THEY ARE THE MOB!!! 'ENOUGH SAID'..!!:popcorn:

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all one needs to do is acknowledge who the rable rousing leaders are.....enough said?

The death of a youth regardless the real cause is not the issue. It is nothing more than a media hyped, racist PERFORMANCE by the politicians who are doing NOTHING MORE than shining their political apple, including Obama.

Those with the higher the rank seem to have need to play the race card...how else can they get the black vote? It certainly is not based on what the blacks in political office have done for their following.

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New facts coming out point to the young man being suspended from school. Drug residue in his book bag.

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New facts coming out point to the young man being suspended from school. Drug residue in his book bag.

Also wondering why the only photos being shown are old photos of Martin. He was a big 6'2" guy. Where are these photo's?

I think the media is complicit in attempting to publicly portray him as a little kid.

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Also wondering why the only photos being shown are old photos of Martin. He was a big 6'2" guy. Where are these photo's?

I think the media is complicit in attempting to publicly portray him as a little kid.

Indeed! My searches for up to date photos have failed. Something wrong here.

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Indeed! My searches for up to date photos have failed. Something wrong here.

A boy is dead...that is sad. There surely needs to be investigation into this. A man admitted to shooting him. All details must be considered and hopefully whomever and whatever caused it comes to light.

Having said that I agree with you and I have been ranting on this media thing for years.

If, and I am not saying it will happen or should happen (my big mouth has been quiet on this, unlike many others, because I do not know anything)....but if we find to the contrary of what the nation is feeling now, this story will die overnight....just stop.

My problem on this is the media.

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"Former NAACP leader accuses Sharpton and Jackson of ‘exploiting’ Trayvon Martin"

“The epidemic is truly black on black crime,” Bryant said. “The greatest danger to the lives of young black men are young black men.”

“Why not be angry about the wholesale murder that goes on in the streets of Newark and Chicago?” he asked. “Why isn’t somebody angry about that six-year-old girl who was killed on her steps last weekend in a cross fire when two gang members in Chicago start shooting at each other? Why is there no outrage about that?”

Bryant said he worries that “people like Sharpton and those on the left” will make Martin’s death a campaign issue in the presidential race.

~Quotes from this link ~ Trayvon Martin | Jesse Jackson | Al Sharpton | The Daily Caller (http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/26/former-naacp-leader-accuses-sharpton-and-jackson-of-exploiting-trayvon-martin/#ixzz1qGblEqlG)