Makes it tough to run against

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someone when already the interpetation of what you do is considered racism...

From TODAY's news...

"President Obama‘s policies aren’t working, the Obama presidency isn’t working, President Obama…isn’t working, as in, doing any work. That’s not a nice thing to say about any president, but like it or not, it becomes a more loaded accusation when leveled at our first black president.

Just to be sure it wasn’t just me, though, I asked several friends about the banner, and four out of four pointed out, unprompted, the stereotype of the “lazy,” “shiftless” black man. One of the people I called was cable news fixture Goldie Taylor, who, upon hearing my description of the banner, said “Are you kidding me? You have got to be kidding me.”

She also noted the multiple meanings, and the unmistakable stereotype it evokes, but didn’t think it was intentional."

This was concerning a sign or banner at a recent Romney event that said..

OBAMA ISNT WORKING

Great start for this campaign...already....now the writer of the article "sort of thinks it might be" and suggests that "A side-by-side comparison of how the Romney team initially deployed the slogan is perhaps what's needed here to clarify things"

I suppose that it is all racist..any criticism

Is This Banner At A Romney Event Racist? (No.) (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/20/mitt-romney-racist_n_1441230.html)

By the way..not a single person saying this..google it

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Then of course from TODAY's as well.....First some background...

"Bachmann assailed President Obama’s economic record and when the subject of the President’s proposed crackdown on speculators manipulating the oil market and his blocking the Keystone XL pipeline came up, she said, “This is just about waving a tar baby in the air and saying that something else is a problem.”

This is part of the reaction...

"In most families or social groups there is one moron that is an embarrassment to human intelligence, and when they make absurd comments, the best course of action is to ignore them and attribute their remarks to stupidity. However, when their comments are intentionally racist, it is nearly impossible to discount them as uniquely stupid, because they are bigots. Over the past four years, Republicans have unleashed a bevy of excruciatingly awkward politicians who do not represent the collective intelligence or common decency of most Americans, and one of their stars emerged to remind the country why the GOP is loathsome and racist in discussions about President Obama"

So watch all euphemism's because you WILL be accused....and people will then make that a fact....

Michele Bachmann’s Tar Baby Obama Racism Masks the GOP’s Sticky Situation (http://www.politicususa.com/michele-bachmann-tar-baby/)

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The esteemed Congresswoman from Minnesota should just confess she is a racist. Confession is good for the soul.

Kinda reminds me of Senator Macacca. He didn't know it was a derogatory term, claimed he just "made it up".

See, the thing about the Cons is that ..... well .... they just aren't smart enough to even realize what they are saying. It's always ....."oh, I didn't mean it that way".


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The esteemed Congresswoman from Minnesota should just confess she is a racist. Confession is good for the soul.

Kinda reminds me of Senator Macacca. He didn't know it was a derogatory term, claimed he just "made it up".

See, the thing about the Cons is that ..... well .... they just aren't smart enough to even realize what they are saying. It's always ....."oh, I didn't mean it that way".


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I guess Bucco should thank you for validating his post. He might be too "polite" to do so, but...........

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Anybody can be offended or see racism in almost everything if they really try.

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I guess Bucco should thank you for validating his post. He might be too "polite" to do so, but...........


I am really not that polite but used to that poster TOTALLY MISSING THE POINT !!

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Anybody can be offended or see racism in almost everything if they really try.

Agreed...my point is that it is seen in almost everything. Does not matter how you criticize this administration, if you do, you stand a good chance of being labeled a racist !

Thats ok, EXCEPT...the media plays it and it goes on and on and all of sudden with no substance it has become a fact and trust me....on this forum, folks will say things like ....as we all know Republicans are racists....and that just keeps on going

By the way, welcome to the forum and TOTV !!

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When the facts are on your side argue the facts and when the law is on your side argue the law and when its neither call them a racist.

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One must remember that Michelle Bachman is a certified moron.

She once said, ""If we took away the minimum wage -- if conceivably it was gone -- we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level."

Don't forget, either, that many, many of these wubers on TOTV were ardent supporters of the Minnesota Moron.

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One must remember that Michelle Bachman is a certified moron.

She once said, ""If we took away the minimum wage -- if conceivably it was gone -- we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level."

Don't forget, either, that many, many of these wubers on TOTV were ardent supporters of the Minnesota Moron.

You also totally miss the very serious point and go for the name calling.

As with the other smart crack, no surprises. Points being made just escape you.

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Instead of copying and pasting some tripe and then trying to explain it, why not just say it in your own words and give a link. It is much easier to read if you use all the same size font. I really do not follow much of what you have written lately. It seems quite incoherent when compared to writings of a few weeks ago. Did something happen? That is a serious question.

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Instead of copying and pasting some tripe and then trying to explain it, why not just say it in your own words and give a link. It is much easier to read if you use all the same size font. I really do not follow much of what you have written lately. It seems quite incoherent when compared to writings of a few weeks ago. Did something happen? That is a serious question.

I dont even know how to respond to this.

Are you saying that you make these ridiculous insulting posts because you have trouble following my posts ?

Sorry if I have confused you.....perhaps if you thought more about the subject of the post and less on trying to find someone to insult it may go better for you.

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More from the Minnesota Moron -

"''I don't know how much God has to do to get the attention of the politicians. We've had an earthquake; we've had a hurricane. He said, 'Are you going to start listening to me here?"
—Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann, suggesting that the 2011 East Coast earthquake and hurricane was a message from God

Hope this does not get the wubers too upset to find out that the Minnesota Moron is not the messenger of God.

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more from the minnesota moron -

"''i don't know how much god has to do to get the attention of the politicians. We've had an earthquake; we've had a hurricane. He said, 'are you going to start listening to me here?"
—republican presidential candidate michele bachmann, suggesting that the 2011 east coast earthquake and hurricane was a message from god

hope this does not get the wubers too upset to find out that the minnesota moron is not the messenger of god.

this thread is not about any particular person and was not set up for you to insult and demean anyone, although it appears that it is something you cannot control.


You really have a tendency to ruin threads so I suppose you have a skill....one sought by most flamers....good bye

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One must remember that Michelle Bachman is a certified moron.

She once said, ""If we took away the minimum wage -- if conceivably it was gone -- we could potentially virtually wipe out unemployment completely because we would be able to offer jobs at whatever level."

Don't forget, either, that many, many of these wubers on TOTV were ardent supporters of the Minnesota Moron.

Thought for sure you meant to say. Michele Obama and Barry are morons then I would agree with you 100%

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Bucco, are you familiar with Derrick Bell, his critical race theory and Bell's role in Obama's life at Harvard? In light of what we are seeing with all the rhetoric and race baiting that has reemerged, I think it is something that is interesting to look at and understand.

I've often wondered where some liberals get their weekly senseless little quips and slogans. Is it spoon fed to them on some liberal websites where they gobble it up and then regurgitate at anyone attempting to have a discussion that might shed light on a real issue?

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this thread is not about any particular person and was not set up for you to insult and demean anyone, although it appears that it is something you cannot control.


You really have a tendency to ruin threads so I suppose you have a skill....one sought by most flamers....good bye

You know you've made your point when my buddy has to drag Bachmann or Palin out of storage for lack of a cogent counterpoint to your posting.

I'm enjoying all this, I must say. You do find some thought provoking items.

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Bucco, are you familiar with Derrick Bell, his critical race theory and Bell's role in Obama's life at Harvard? In light of what we are seeing with all the rhetoric and race baiting that has reemerged, I think it is something that is interesting to look at and understand.

I've often wondered where some liberals get their weekly senseless little quips and slogans. Is it spoon fed to them on some liberal websites where they gobble it up and then regurgitate at anyone attempting to have a discussion that might shed light on a real issue?

I really honestly try to ignore these people who are here to simply inflame with the little quips and ridicule but I am often unsuccessful and resort to saying something back, and that is on me.

However, it appears to be typical....NBC altering tapes in the Sanford tragedy...and just read tonight that R Maddow is being sued for 50 million....her show doctored a guys tape to make it say x and then their defense is that she then quickly said b after letting it air. That is such crap..why cant we just discuss what is needed to be discussed and let the chips fall where they may. In case you want to read the Maddow thing..
Rachel Maddow Demands Dismissal of $50 Million Defamation Lawsuit - Hollywood Reporter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/rachel-maddow-lawsuit-bradlee-dean-msnbc-314234)

Yeah, a poster on another thread just said it was BORING..his words to come on here and read criticism of Obama...this was on his visit to Latin America, so I gave him some headlines from all around to try and show I am not just looking for this stuff.

But, back to the thread...the race issue is becoming more and more a real problem. You cannot say anything negative about this administration without the race thing coming at you. There is just too much conformity in the messages for it not to be thought through. And IT WORKS...if you recall it has since been reported that folks wanted McCain to use somethings in the campaign....things that heretofore had been used, but they had a racial tone to them and thus he didnt use them. Not saying that is what cost him the election, but you cannot have legitimate discussions and campaigns with this damn race thing hanging over your head. If you have to watch everything you say just because the other guy is non white is in itself racist.

Who cares what color and I truely believe nobody cares BUT ARE SENSITIVE to the calls of racist....scary in this country right now and this guy said he would bring us together...along with a bunch of other things.

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Agreed...my point is that it is seen in almost everything. Does not matter how you criticize this administration, if you do, you stand a good chance of being labeled a racist...Therer's an easy solution, Bucco. Don't get your shorts in a knot coming up with criticisms of Obama. Just relax, enjoy life...and vote for Mitt Romney in November.

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Therer's an easy solution, Bucco. Don't get your shorts in a knot coming up with criticisms of Obama. Just relax, enjoy life...and vote for Mitt Romney in November.

VK...you make a very very good point, but I do not look for the criticisms....I love to read and only post what I read which never makes the MSM anyway which is frustrating.

You would think the President doing things he does would be news....but as you know if you watch the news, we have "more important" things to cover and talk about other than our future, which is getting dimmer and dimmer if we dont talk about it.

I come on here and see people who are going to vote say such outlandish things and adore the wrong things...frustrates me.

Listen, I enjoy life....lots of baseball, family and apple pie but does not stop me from reading and noticing things.

Actually, I have and have said so on here that what we should concentrate on here is the media....they are a major part of the problem, and if they had done their job in 2008 we could be on here going after President McCain, which as you know did not make me happy. Having a choice of just two is also frustrating...believe me I could vote Democratic with the right leader in place....have done it in the past and would not hesitate to do in the future.

As you know well, I have been consistent with my views on Obama....my fears of 2008 have proven to be 100% true and to re elect him and not have him to have to face the voters again intensifies my fears.

I do live in this country and care about this country.

BUT you are correct.....but it just scares me to see all the folks who like lemmings just follow the party line.......thanks for the good advice,

And post some of your excellent financial posts....been told by a poster recently that he cannot learn anything on this forum...he seems to know how to get it all, but do not want to give you a big head BUT over the years I have learned quite a bit either from your links or you making me look stuff up....did not always agree but have to admit I DID change my views a few times based on your posts.

PS...on the specific thread you made your comment to me....THIS RACE issue I think is extremely important and it is looming over this country and it has to be meant face on WITH NO FEAR OF THE POLITICALLY CORRECT tag and fear of being accused of anything