Even Maureen Dowd??; is the bloom off the rose??

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Noted solid liberal columnist Maureen Dowd's column in today's New York Times tells a tale of her burgeoning disillusionment with the President of the United States who she previously fawned over.

It's really worth a read. It may have been written with a tear in her eye, but brought a smile to me.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/03/opinion/sunday/dowd-dreaming-of-a-superhero.html?_r=1&ref=opinion

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how does that old saying go?

You can fool some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time.

This election Obama has his past 3 1/2 years to measure him by and many are and have been concluding they have been fooled.

What I look forward to is when the main stream media gets to a point where there is no percentage in running cover for him....it will happen.

btk

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Obama had nothing to run on during the 2008 campaign and I am afraid that the old saw may not apply because you can always fool a fool and apparently there are a lot of them out there especially those feeding at the government trough.

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Maureen Dowd - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maureen_Dowd)

She pokes fun at either party with abandon.

Maureen Dowd Columnist Page - The New York Times (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/opinion/editorialsandoped/oped/columnists/maureendowd/index.html)

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I can't believe that posters on this forum are reading and quoting Maureen Dowd. Is Ann Coulter on vacation?

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I can't believe that posters on this forum are reading and quoting Maureen Dowd. Is Ann Coulter on vacation?

Ann Coulter hardly ever takes pot shots at Republicans though. All her diatribes are against liberals.

Maureen Dowd Rehashes the "Presidential Candidate X is a Wuss" Construct | Mother Jones (http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2007/11/maureen-dowd-rehashes-presidential-candidate-x-wuss-construct)

Who's Obambi now though??

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I've found another article about liberal New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd illustrating her disillusionment with BHO.

Maureen Dowd: Obama Is 'Maddeningly Naïve' - His Presidency Has 'All the Joy of a Root Canal' | NewsBusters.org (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/01/22/maureen-dowd-obama-maddeningly-na-ve-his-presidency-has-all-joy-root)

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Maureen Dowd - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maureen_Dowd)

She pokes fun at either party with abandon.

Maureen Dowd Columnist Page - The New York Times (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/opinion/editorialsandoped/oped/columnists/maureendowd/index.html)

You can find numerous articles online where folks from all quarters refer to Ms. Dowd as a "liberal columnist". It's no secret.

She's even referred to as the "liberal queen of snark".

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Obama had nothing to run on during the 2008 campaign and I am afraid that the old saw may not apply because you can always fool a fool and apparently there are a lot of them out there especially those feeding at the government trough.

rubicon - as a retired state employee who lives on the sole income of an early social security check [for which i contributed various amounts while working from age 16 to 62] and a state retirement pension [for which i worked 24 years and made bi-weekly contributions], i STRONGLY RESENT that you would consider me as 'feeding at the government trough'.

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I checked some of the 2008 Maureen Dowd columns and she hardly sounds like a fan of Obama. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/13/opinion/13dowd.html?_r=1

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rubicon - as a retired state employee who lives on the sole income of an early social security check [for which i contributed various amounts while working from age 16 to 62] and a state retirement pension [for which i worked 24 years and made bi-weekly contributions], i STRONGLY RESENT that you would consider me as 'feeding at the government trough'.

njbchbum: you mistake my post. I am referring to those career medicaid/food stamps individuals who pass that right of entitlement from one generation to another. I certainly would not include folks like you..unless you consider what you are getting as "Obama money" See the difference?????

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It has been a surreal 3 year experience for me to know but finally read an accounting as such Maureen Dowd's Superhero. What was it that prevented so many, otherwise intelligent, people to miscalculate and to misread Obama. His failings have always been there for people to see. Perhaps the Democrats had rigged spray guns filled with Love Portion #9 at each and every voting both and it has taken three years to wear off.

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It has been a surreal 3 year experience for me to know but finally read an accounting as such Maureen Dowd's Superhero. What was it that prevented so many, otherwise intelligent, people to miscalculate and to misread Obama. His failings have always been there for people to see. Perhaps the Democrats had rigged spray guns filled with Love Portion #9 at each and every voting both and it has taken three years to wear off.

Maureen Dowd hardly looks like she ever had a bloom for any President. She seems to like Hillary Clinton but I do not see her really supporting anyone. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/08/opinion/08dowd.html

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Noted solid liberal columnist Maureen Dowd's column in today's New York Times tells a tale of her burgeoning disillusionment with the President of the United States who she previously fawned over.

It's really worth a read. It may have been written with a tear in her eye, but brought a smile to me.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/03/opinion/sunday/dowd-dreaming-of-a-superhero.html?_r=1&ref=opinion
Hey, Richie, with Dowd's column today we don't even have to spend fifteen bucks buying Klein's book, The Amateur.

I think all Dowd finally said is what a lot of people, myself included, have been thinking for awhile. I hoped it wouldn't happen when I voted for Obama as "the lesser of two evils" in 2008. But I knew I could change my mind and my vote in 2012, which is what I'll do.

The only thing that bothers me is another article I read in today's NYT, quoting a guy--it might have been a faculty member--regarding what both Obama and Romney were like when they attended Harvard. He pretty much described two peas in a pod--both extremely analytical, slow to make a decision, unwilling to be confrontational, not terribly good at getting others to see their way of thinking, personally self-centered to a fault, introverted. The writer was surprised that either of them had chosen politics, particularly national politics at a high level, for their life's work.

I've thought for awhile now that the differences between Romney and Obama are paper thin when it comes to the ability to maneuver the Congress and lead the country. Romney will get my vote, and I hope I'm wrong. But I also know that if he doesn't work out, we can go to yet another "plan" in 2016.

I looked and looked for the NYT article, but couldn't find it again to provide a reference or link. I can't even remember what section it was in. Maybe someone else read the same thing who can point us to it.

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Hey, Richie, with Dowd's column today we don't even have to spend fifteen bucks buying Klein's book, The Amateur.

I think all Dowd finally said is what a lot of people, myself included, have been thinking for awhile. I hoped it wouldn't happen when I voted for Obama as "the lesser of two evils" in 2008. But I knew I could change my mind and my vote in 2012, which is what I'll do.

The only thing that bothers me is another article I read in today's NYT, quoting a guy--it might have been a faculty member--regarding what both Obama and Romney were like when they attended Harvard. He pretty much described two peas in a pod--both extremely analytical, slow to make a decision, unwilling to be confrontational, not terribly good at getting others to see their way of thinking, personally self-centered to a fault, introverted. The writer was surprised that either of them had chosen politics, particularly national politics at a high level, for their life's work.

I've thought for awhile now that the differences between Romney and Obama are paper thin when it comes to the ability to maneuver the Congress and lead the country. Romney will get my vote, and I hope I'm wrong. But I also know that if he doesn't work out, we can go to yet another "plan" in 2016.

I looked and looked for the NYT article, but couldn't find it again to provide a reference or link. I can't even remember what section it was in. Maybe someone else read the same thing who can point us to it.

Obama, Romney: More in common than you think (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/06/obama-romney-more-in-common-than-you-think/1)

Actual NYT article-- http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/03/us/politics/intersecting-worlds-of-romney-and-obama.html?ref=markleibovich

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njbchbum: you mistake my post. I am referring to those career medicaid/food stamps individuals who pass that right of entitlement from one generation to another. I certainly would not include folks like you..unless you consider what you are getting as "Obama money" See the difference?????

perhaps i am overly sensitive, rubicon. but as benefactor of federal $ and state $ - i am reminded constantly by members of the private sector that i am living off the govt trough AND that they are the ones who are filling it! am often reminded by the same folks that my work for state govt was not a job that generated a product from which profit was generated, as is common in their sector. they TOTALLY discount the fact that what i did produce for them was a service that they had whined for and demanded of their elected officials! had that service not been instituted there would have been no need for my postition...so i just thank them for their whining and demanding! ;)

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Obama, Romney: More in common than you think (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/06/obama-romney-more-in-common-than-you-think/1)

Actual NYT article-- http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/03/us/politics/intersecting-worlds-of-romney-and-obama.html?ref=markleibovichHow could I forget the article was in the middle of the front page? I rustled thru all the sections, knowing I had read the article, but never thought to look on the front page!

Thanks. It's a good article.

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How could I forget the article was in the middle of the front page? I rustled thru all the sections, knowing I had read the article, but never thought to look on the front page!

Thanks. It's a good article.

You are welcome. Putting in the link again. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/03/us/politics/intersecting-worlds-of-romney-and-obama.html?ref=markleibovich

I still cannot see the surprize about Maureen Dowd criticizing Barack Obama with her using the name Obambi for him in some 2008 columns. She looks like an Ann Coulter like columnist who has little or no regard for politicians of either party.

Here she takes on Romney, Al Gore, Jr., and Mormon baptisms of the dead -- http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/18/opinion/sunday/dowd-is-elvis-a-mormon.html?_r=1

"There’s a certain pathos to Romney. His manner is so inauthentic, you can’t find him anywhere. Is he the guy he was on Wednesday or the guy he was on Thursday?

He has the same problem that diminished the equally animatronic Al Gore. Gore kept mum on the one thing that made him come alive, the environment, fearing he’d be cast, as W. liked to say, as 'a green, green lima bean.'” from above linked Dowd NYT Column.

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"There’s a certain pathos to Romney. His manner is so inauthentic, you can’t find him anywhere. Is he the guy he was on Wednesday or the guy he was on Thursday?" (Maureen Dowd, NYT, June 3, 2012)Romney will get my vote. But this sentence from Dowd's column today pretty much describes my feeling of discomfort for the guy.

I wish I knew more about his platform and specific plans to address important issues. Then it would be easier to compare and contrast him with Obama's actual performance. But other than his stump speech criticsms of Obama, he never seems to say anything specific about what he would do.

Like what he thinks should be done regarding the $7 trillion in tax increases and destructive cuts to spending that will happen automatically at the end of the year? "Wait until there's a new POTUS and Congress; let them handle the problems." Really? Does he realize how destructive those things will be to our economy, to our military, and how difficult it will be to get Congress to act in a bi-partisan way to address what should be done?

Or his criticism that Obama isn't addressing the Syrian situation properly. But he dosen't ever say what he thinks he U.S. should do--what he would do if he were POTUS.

This may be another "lesser of two evils" election. But so far, I have even less confidence in Romney than I did in Obama five months before the 2008 election. "Inauthentic, animatronic"? Yeah, those are descriptions that seem to apply.

My goodness, are these the best two guys a country of over 300 million people could come up with? That's pretty sad, don't you think?