Another Flip-Flop for Romney

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During the primary campaign, Mitt Romney said he would veto the DREAM Act if passed by Congress. Now that President Obama has a scaled down version of the DREAM Act in place with an Executive Order - and a brilliant move at that - Mr. Romney flip-flops to say it is a needed thing even though it was wrong to pass it like that.

On Face the Nation, Romney was clearly flummoxed with the wind taken out of the sails over this issue.

Well, Mitt, are you going to go along with it or what? We are listening - and so are your Tea Party handlers.Mitt Romney's Dream Act Response Highlights Political Peril | Swampland | TIME.com (http://swampland.time.com/2012/06/18/reading-romneys-dream-act-defense/)

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Willard has to check with Sheldon Adelson first to determine what his position will be. Willard is, after all, Adelson's stooge.

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I think we should all agree that measuring politicians flip flops is as useful and as accurate as measuring a passing cloud.

They all do it and to high light one more than another is only partisan tabulation satisfaction.

How about something of significance like whether the free pass to illegals is right? What good does it do the average American that all the politicians admit "are hurting"?

btk

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I agree. I am so focused on Romney putting the economy back on track, I refuse to be deterred by any other issue.

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I agree. I am so focused on Romney putting the economy back on track, I refuse to be deterred by any other issue.Don't get your hopes up too high. First, Romney has said that nothing should be done by the current Congress on fiscal issues until after the election. What, waste five months while staring down major cuts to defense spending, big whacks at other discretionary spending, and a major tax hike that will hit all of us. There's a good chance that such inaction will lead to another credit rating downgrade.

This is the guy who'll "get the economy back on track"? We know that's not Obama. But it's beginning to look like it's not Romney either.

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vk - so what is wrong with waiting another 5 mos for action if the action[s] the congress might take are anything like the action[s] they have taken so far?!? the fact that congress does not act allows the federal reserve and wall street to run things so that they can get the blame for whatever! let the tax hike hit - it might be what voters need to get rid of the bnch of clowns in dc - not much else has helped so far! besides, we all new that congress would remain in its stalemate after the last election thru the next election. inaction is nothing that was not expected.

just sayin, ya know?

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Mitt Romney is going to look like the Great Wallenda traversing Niagara Falls when he comes out with his immigration plan later this week. If he sticks with his hardline primary stance of self-deportation for all illegal immigrants to return to their native countries and get in line for immigration, he'll get very few hispanic votes meaning he'll lose the election. If he comes out in support of President Obama's new policy allowing some young illegal immigrants to stay in the US, he'll be doomed with his tea-party supporters.

Right now he is shaking the etch-a-sketch and talking jibberish. Yesterday, when asked whether he would overturn the executive order, he answered "It would be overtaken by events". What the heck does that mean?

Fastern your seat belts. This is going to get good.


http://www.tampabay.com/incoming/romney-wont-say-hell-overturn-immigration-order/1235951

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Think of the country as the apartment building you live in. In this made up world, you and the other tenants get to decide who your future landlord will be in November.

The apartment foundation is cracking, the roof and windows leak, the paint is peeling, your neighbors are parking cars in your driveway……

The current landlord buys a new pretty plant for the front entry and many tenants love the new plant. He smiles and says how good he feels about the new plant……

Do you really think that the focus of the landlord selection should be what the other landlord would do with the new plant if he took over?

I am losing hope that the general population can get past the shiny objects being held up to distract them during all of these campaigns.

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Think of the country as the apartment building you live in. In this made up world, you and the other tenants get to decide who your future landlord will be in November.

The apartment foundation is cracking, the roof and windows leak, the paint is peeling, your neighbors are parking cars in your driveway……

The current landlord buys a new pretty plant for the front entry and many tenants love the new plant. He smiles and says how good he feels about the new plant……

Do you really think that the focus of the landlord selection should be what the other landlord would do with the new plant if he took over?

I am losing hope that the general population cannot get past the shiny objects being held up to distract them during all of these campaigns.

This is quite a good and on target post. Have you noticed how folks play a game with this and could give a hoot what might happen to this country ?

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The most recent Rasmussen Poll states that 62% of Americans believe we are in a recession. Savings levels for us have dropped to pre 1994. McCain is adamant that Obama's deliberate avoidance of Syria is going to cost us big time down the road. I believe he is on to something because Russia" Putin feels his investments in siding with Syria dictator will pay off in big dividends given the amount of money and weapons he is pouring into Syria. Our unemployment rate is a disgrace. Our energy policy null and void. Obama is pouring billions into green energy projects that are folding up faster than most of the pro golfers did in the US Open. So what is Obama doing but pandering for votes by executing by fiat policies that will garner him votes like the Hispanic vote, the gay, vote the Hollywood vote ( and he loves Hollywood money) Policies which by the way are not beneficial to this nation

With all of this coming down on us I am continually amazed at the glowing chatter I hear from liberals about Obama.

I guess that liberals have adjusted their view concerning Obama's performance in the same manner I did about my golf game. I lowered my expectations and you know what I play so much better now.

This whole thing goes way beyond who is elected in November. This nation's existence is at stake and the American people should first understand and decide what policy(s) need to be enacted and then its leaders ...and not the reverse. We know Obama has failed miserably. We are not sure that Romney is the best prospect. so we need to focus ourselves on viable candidates for Congress. I am afraid that we do not have a sufficient enough number of voters who understand (sophicated enough)because they continue to act as if they are choosing a winner from one of these God awful reality shows.

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Think of the country as the apartment building you live in. In this made up world, you and the other tenants get to decide who your future landlord will be in November.

The apartment foundation is cracking, the roof and windows leak, the paint is peeling, your neighbors are parking cars in your driveway……

The current landlord buys a new pretty plant for the front entry and many tenants love the new plant. He smiles and says how good he feels about the new plant……

Do you really think that the focus of the landlord selection should be what the other landlord would do with the new plant if he took over?

I am losing hope that the general population can get past the shiny objects being held up to distract them during all of these campaigns.

Good analogy AJ. I would add that the current landlord is Mr. Smith, and the prospective landlord is Mr. Jones. 30% or so of the tenents will only vote for a Smith and 30% or so will only vote for a Jones. Most of the other 40% are debating the value of the new plant, while deciding which way to go.

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I cannot vote for Romney. I am a conservative. He is Not. On this immigration order of President Obama, Republicrats say it proves the President should not be president, yet Romney told CBS Sunday he would not stop the Executive Order when he takes office.. he will wait for a solution from Congress. How can Republicrats claim this latest Order of President Obama is a reason he should not be re elected when Romney will do the same thing?
Go away Mr. Romney. You have lost the Conservative Vote. Open up the convention for a Conservative. I will not vote for a candidate from any party who says he will violate his oath to enforce the laws (including immigration laws) of the United States.
JJ

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I totally disagree with your analogy.
Enforcing the laws of the US after your have taken a sworn oath to do so is the CORE of the character of the candidate. I would throw out the current landlord and tell the new one I will not pay him one red cent if he does not intend to do anything different than the last one.
I will not give Romney support of any kind. Those of you who vote for him deserve what you get.. another big spending military industrial complex budget busting flip flopping politician.
JJ

Think of the country as the apartment building you live in. In this made up world, you and the other tenants get to decide who your future landlord will be in November.

The apartment foundation is cracking, the roof and windows leak, the paint is peeling, your neighbors are parking cars in your driveway……

The current landlord buys a new pretty plant for the front entry and many tenants love the new plant. He smiles and says how good he feels about the new plant……

Do you really think that the focus of the landlord selection should be what the other landlord would do with the new plant if he took over?

I am losing hope that the general population can get past the shiny objects being held up to distract them during all of these campaigns.

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I totally disagree with your analogy.
Enforcing the laws of the US after your have taken a sworn oath to do so is the CORE of the character of the candidate. I would throw out the current landlord and tell the new one I will not pay him one red cent if he does not intend to do anything different than the last one.
I will not give Romney support of any kind. Those of you who vote for him deserve what you get.. another big spending military industrial complex budget busting flip flopping politician.
JJ

With all due respect, AJs analogy is real world, and points out the shallow nature of the electorate. Yours is an idealistic fantasy.

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With all due respect, AJs analogy is real world, and points out the shallow nature of the electorate. Yours is an idealistic fantasy.

Unfortunately, you are correct. I always believed that the middle core was above all the trinkets and they made good decisions, but today the voting process has no respect any more and thus you might have it nailed.

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I cannot vote for Romney. I am a conservative. He is Not. On this immigration order of President Obama, Republicrats say it proves the President should not be president, yet Romney told CBS Sunday he would not stop the Executive Order when he takes office.. he will wait for a solution from Congress. How can Republicrats claim this latest Order of President Obama is a reason he should not be re elected when Romney will do the same thing?
Go away Mr. Romney. You have lost the Conservative Vote. Open up the convention for a Conservative. I will not vote for a candidate from any party who says he will violate his oath to enforce the laws (including immigration laws) of the United States.
JJ

So you're going to sit on your hands? Great plan.

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sounds like somebody is committed to not vote....if Romney is not conservative enough one certainly could or would not vote for Obama....so be like too many millions who will sit home and not vote.....but that also means you are not entitled to talk about what you do not like in the outcome.

Some of us believe some folks maintain a public posture for what ever reasons...then when they get in the voting booth they will do what makes the most sense....NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA.

btk

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Rubio has said that if put in a similar position as those who are fleeing destitution, he would break the law, too.

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Rubio has said that if put in a similar position as those who are fleeing destitution, he would break the law, too.

Understandable feeling, but the United States is not under obligation to accept everyone running over our border in search of "milk and honey" just because they are unhappy at home.

By that measure, why don't you leave your door unlocked so that all who are in worse shape than you can enter your house without your permission and help themselves to the things you have in order to enrich their own miserable lives.

It would be understandable for those destitute people to do so, in the parameter of your post.

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Mitt Romney will be speaking at the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials on Thursday in Orlando, so we should know then what his immigration policy will be if elected. President Obama speaks to the same group on Friday.

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Understandable feeling, but the United States is not under obligation to accept everyone running over our border in search of "milk and honey" just because they are unhappy at home.

By that measure, why don't you leave your door unlocked so that all who are in worse shape than you can enter your house without your permission and help themselves to the things you have in order to enrich their own miserable lives.

It would be understandable for those destitute people to do so, in the parameter of your post.

Are you forgetting the hundreds of thousands that the Obama Administration has deported? It is a lot more than the Junior Bush Administration did during their time in office.

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Are you forgetting the hundreds of thousands that the Obama Administration has deported? It is a lot more than the Junior Bush Administration did during their time in office.

I'm not sure what your post, if indeed true, has do to with my post.

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Amazing that I have to explain things to you. After a couple of house brand bourbons at the watering hole, you are usually understandable but not here.

Anyhow, you had stated that just because this is the land of milk and honey, we are not obligated to let everyone who wants a better life to enter the US.

I replied by saying we do not allow that because as you should know, the Obama Administration has deported hundreds of thousands of illegals - much more than the Junior Bush administration did in their terms of office.

Do you understand now or do you need a watering house bar brand bourbon or two? Maybe we can take care of that later (if Mrs. Lion allows it.)

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Amazing that I have to explain things to you. After a couple of house brand bourbons at the watering hole, you are usually understandable but not here.

Anyhow, you had stated that just because this is the land of milk and honey, we are not obligated to let everyone who wants a better life to enter the US.

I replied by saying we do not allow that because as you should know, the Obama Administration has deported hundreds of thousands of illegals - much more than the Junior Bush administration did in their terms of office.

Do you understand now or do you need a watering house bar brand bourbon or two? Maybe we can take care of that later (if Mrs. Lion allows it.)

I was responding to Coralway's thinking and to his post and not to whatever you are referring to that I haven't vetted, and you haven't provided any source for.

Context is very important in a discussion. Tangental statements can be confusing in person and even more so in print.