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Guest
07-27-2012, 08:07 AM
...to Great Britain. I wonder if Romney is related to the Griswolds??? Beginning to look like it with all the misguided adventures he has had in the past few days. We could call this National Lampoon's Olympic Vacation?
Mitt Romney's Olympics gaffe overshadows visit to London - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/mitt-romney/9431064/Mitt-Romneys-Olympics-gaffe-overshadows-visit-to-London.html)
Guest
07-27-2012, 08:12 AM
He may have horrible social skills, but he is good at budgeting.
Guest
07-27-2012, 08:30 AM
Oh, the Brits are unhappy that the man who saved the Olympics is skeptical of their logistical planning?
Oh, Boo Hoo.
They better hope he's not correct in his observations.
Will they print THAT story?
Guest
07-27-2012, 08:31 AM
I know the following will be sliced, diced and degenerated by the usual few, however.....whether it is Romney or anybody else, I much prefer spontaneous, real commentary that is open to honest, human error than a highly polished, practiced, scripted, not what the person really thinks or is type.
In my business dealings in Europe and the far east, what I admired most was how very openly candid they were in conversation. Totally and completely the opposite of the disgustingly, phony, disingenuous politically correct (barfbarf) approach.
So for me if they are knowledgeable, courteous, real and HONEST, that is a much more desirable person to deal with.
I view and respect a person who speaks what they think and believe.....not one who is practiced at parroting what he thinks wants to be heard.
If some are going to measure...how about comparing Obama when he is off the script/teleprompter to Romney. Seems those who compare have short memories that Obama did not do well on his first visit to the UK (and some others). To be fair go back and check out his performance.....if how Romney performed is a point for some....the counter point is obviously where Obama screwed up when he went to the UK....look it up.
Ahhhh....can't wait until we get to issues of substance.....some of us have been waiting for over 4 years!!
btk
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07-27-2012, 08:33 AM
It would be welcome to see some straight forward honesty from our politicians
Guest
07-27-2012, 08:33 AM
I don't remember President Obama being booed by 60,000 Londoners. Could you post a link to that?
Guest
07-27-2012, 08:41 AM
He was jusr REPEATING what all the British press were saying in their newspapers!!!!
Guest
07-27-2012, 08:48 AM
...from the Federal Government--of all things considering recent attacks on Obama and his business remark about how no small business does it alone--in shoring up the sinking Salt Lake City Olympic ship.
Romney reliance on federal money to save Olympics in focus | Sports | The Seattle Times (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2018784075_apusromneyolympics.html)
Guest
07-27-2012, 08:50 AM
This should clear up the London comments. Now, let Mitt get back to more important issues.
Romney: 'I'm convinced' London is ready for the Games - TODAY in London (http://todayinlondonblog.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/27/12989036-romney-im-convinced-london-is-ready-for-the-games?lite)
Guest
07-27-2012, 08:58 AM
This should clear up the London comments. Now, let Mitt get back to more important issues.
Romney: 'I'm convinced' London is ready for the Games - TODAY in London (http://todayinlondonblog.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/27/12989036-romney-im-convinced-london-is-ready-for-the-games?lite)
You are right that this foot in mouth instance of Romney at the Olympics is not all that important to the US elections in November.
Could be important though with how other countries view the US political process. I also see Romney as certainly the best of the Republicans who ran for their party's Presidential nomination.
Guest
07-27-2012, 09:00 AM
never disappointed by the predictable responses from the opposition....ever!
btk
Guest
07-27-2012, 09:03 AM
You are right that this foot in mouth instance of Romney at the Olympics is not all that important to the US elections in November.
Could be important though with how other countries view the US political process. Romney is certainly the best of the Republicans who ran for their party's Presidential nomination.
I can't argue with any of that.
Guest
07-27-2012, 10:33 AM
Romney is the more qualified candidate in 2012.....politics aside, the world recognizes that as well. Every civilized, thinking country acknowledges business based people are more solid than politicians....more truthful than politicians and certainly more capable.
I guess everybody around the world knows how phony and self centered career politicians are.
btk
Guest
07-27-2012, 10:41 AM
Do you really think the American people want to hold their breath every time their president opens his mouth while traveling the world? We had that for eight years with George W Bush. The gaffes yesterday hurt only Mitt Romney, but had he been on official business, he could have created real rifts between the US and Great Britain. Hopefully, he won't tell any Polish jokes while in Poland.
Guest
07-27-2012, 10:43 AM
Romney is the more qualified candidate in 2012.....politics aside, the world recognizes that as well. Every civilized, thinking country acknowledges business based people are more solid than politicians....more truthful than politicians and certainly more capable.
I guess everybody around the world knows how phony and self centered career politicians are.
btk
Not sure where you are getting this. President Barack Obama seemed beloved in many parts of the world in 2008 because he looked like a new kind of politician. Someone who cares about making his country a better place for more people.
Romney seems to be the epitome of the politician who will say anything and take any position to get elected by whatever group he sees as the most vocal voting block. Believe many people in foreign lands also see this.
He is great at making people money though. Sure the world sees how rich he is. Not sure if this qualifies him in any way with running a country.
Guest
07-27-2012, 11:04 AM
This should clear up the London comments. Now, let Mitt get back to more important issues.
Romney: 'I'm convinced' London is ready for the Games - TODAY in London (http://todayinlondonblog.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/27/12989036-romney-im-convinced-london-is-ready-for-the-games?lite)
Yes, that statement is part of Willards apology. He is on his own apology tour of the UK.
When they refer to you as "worse than Palin" ..... well ...........
Guest
07-27-2012, 11:58 AM
Why would you want the only person present--who has actually managed a safe, terrorism-free Olympics within a year of the horrific 9-11 attacks--to remain silent on the obvious, known security gaps in the London Olympics about to start?
It seems like the responsible thing to do with the event starting, instead of patting oneself on the back for having covered all the bases when they're not.
Better for some toes to be stepped on and for "heads to roll" in advance of a 911-scale terrorist attack, than for heads to literally roll out of burning, falling tons of concrete and steel.
Guest
07-27-2012, 12:13 PM
Do you really think the American people want to hold their breath every time their president opens his mouth while traveling the world? We had that for eight years with George W Bush. The gaffes yesterday hurt only Mitt Romney, but had he been on official business, he could have created real rifts between the US and Great Britain. Hopefully, he won't tell any Polish jokes while in Poland.
do you really think the american people don't hold their breath when obama goes to a meet and greet with foreign dignataries after he bowed to the king of saudi arabia and his wife shook hands with and hugged the queen of england, verbally alienates israel - one of our strongest allies and forgets that he is still miked when speaking to others? i know that i do!
i bet he won't refer to the nazi death camps as polish death camps while he is in poland.
Guest
07-27-2012, 12:49 PM
One poster wrote about President Obama, "...and forgets that he is still miked when speaking to others?"
Obviously she forgot about the FAMOUS gaffe by Ronnie Reagan when he was miked for the weekly radio broadcast and said, "We will begin bombing Russia in 5 minutes."
Reagan jokes about bombing Russia, August 11, 1984 - Andrew Glass - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/40921.html)
Guest
07-27-2012, 12:56 PM
it is so obvious the partisans have only one view, one memory, one message, one train of thought D= good no matter what and R = bad no matter what.
It certainly must be easier to communicate in that mode...no discrimination of good or bad or right or wrong required, just parrot the message....no matter what.
How many days have we been going now with none of the major issues facing this country being put up for discussion?
One hundred days until the election.....99 of them for dirt digging, mud slinging, name calling and just plain stupid stuff (all political tactics....some obviously much better at it than others as that is all they do....no matter what!!).
It is almost a waste of time looking to this forum for a discussion of ANYTHING that affects America or we the people. There isn't even any humor in any of it anymore.
If one takes into account those who have given up on the forum plus those that are blocked....pretty small group that is left.....what a pity...what a loss.
btk
Guest
07-27-2012, 01:09 PM
Fox News - Willard's gaffe "Unbelievable", "Beyond Human Understanding", "Incomprehensible".
Brits call Willard "worse than Palin" .........
Guest
07-27-2012, 01:15 PM
One poster wrote about President Obama, "...and forgets that he is still miked when speaking to others?"
Obviously she forgot about the FAMOUS gaffe by Ronnie Reagan when he was miked for the weekly radio broadcast and said, "We will begin bombing Russia in 5 minutes."
Reagan jokes about bombing Russia, August 11, 1984 - Andrew Glass - POLITICO.com (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/40921.html)
you can ONLY be referring to my post - and why cite that when my post was about obama's gaffes?
Guest
07-27-2012, 02:52 PM
you can ONLY be referring to my post - and why cite that when my post was about obama's gaffes?
http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad51/wakytimes/526618_365310423537655_1431978234_n.jpg
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07-27-2012, 03:59 PM
http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad51/wakytimes/526618_365310423537655_1431978234_n.jpg
Looks like a MSNBC talking head, RichieLion. Fox News would have a different take on this. And, then CNN would have yet another.
Guest
07-27-2012, 04:48 PM
you can ONLY be referring to my post - and why cite that when my post was about obama's gaffes?
I cited that to show that gaffes happen to every President. Ronnie Reagan was miked up when he joked around about bombing Russia. You had a problem with Pres. Obama being miked up when talking. Even your great Ronnie Reagan made mistakes. Don't be so critical of one President without being able to accept a criticism of another.
Guest
07-27-2012, 04:52 PM
I cited that to show that gaffes happen to every President. Ronnie Reagan was miked up when he joked around about bombing Russia. You had a problem with Pres. Obama being miked up when talking. Even your great Ronnie Reagan made mistakes. Don't be so critical of one President without being able to accept a criticism of another.
i didn't have the problem - obama DID! reagan is dead - i see no need to criticize him any more.
Guest
07-27-2012, 05:29 PM
Romney is in London because his wife is leading the American delegation, it's not a campaign stop. From what I understand he is not even staying for the competition because he doesn't want to draw attention away from the sport.
In my opinion the media should cut him a break and let Ann Romney enjoy her moment.
Guest
07-27-2012, 06:07 PM
Romney is in London because his wife is leading the American delegation, it's not a campaign stop. From what I understand he is not even staying for the competition because he doesn't want to draw attention away from the sport.
In my opinion the media should cut him a break and let Ann Romney enjoy her moment.
Not sure where you got Romney's wife as leading the US delegation. It is her partly owned horse which is in the Olympics in dressage. How the Romneys put USA Olympic equestrian team on the map | Sport | guardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jul/23/london-2012-equestrian-usa-romney)
The First Lady Michelle Obama is the leader of the US Olympic delegation which is customary at the Olympics to have a US sitting elected politician as the leader of the US delegation. http://www.startribune.com/sports/olympics/163984186.html?refer=y
"Other first ladies who have led recent U.S. Olympic delegations include Hillary Clinton at Lillehammer in 1994 and Laura Bush at Turin in 2006". From the Star-Tribune linked article.
Guest
07-27-2012, 06:19 PM
Not sure where you got Romney's wife as leading the US delegation. It is her partly owned horse which is in the Olympics in dressage. How the Romneys put USA Olympic equestrian team on the map | Sport | guardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jul/23/london-2012-equestrian-usa-romney)
Here you go...
Obama ‘loves’ the Olympics, might watch Romney’s horse compete – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/27/obama-loves-the-olympics-might-watch-romneys-horse-compete/)
Guest
07-27-2012, 06:29 PM
Here you go...
Obama ‘loves’ the Olympics, might watch Romney’s horse compete – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/27/obama-loves-the-olympics-might-watch-romneys-horse-compete/)
Having the US President at the Olympics would be a security headache to many involved unless his visit--if it happens--is kept on the down low. You have to give President Obama credit for putting the athletes and spectators ahead of politics. Romney-- Mitt Romney-- seems to be doing the same.
Guest
07-27-2012, 07:08 PM
Why would you want the only person present--who has actually managed a safe, terrorism-free Olympics within a year of the horrific 9-11 attacks--to remain silent on the obvious, known security gaps in the London Olympics about to start?
It seems like the responsible thing to do with the event starting, instead of patting oneself on the back for having covered all the bases when they're not.
Better for some toes to be stepped on and for "heads to roll" in advance of a 911-scale terrorist attack, than for heads to literally roll out of burning, falling tons of concrete and steel.
I'm going to ask this question again, quoted above in my earlier post.
Why would you want a person with Romney's Olympic management and security experience to remain silent when there are gaps that are open to another 9-11 or worse attack????
Guest
07-27-2012, 07:16 PM
I'm going to ask this question again, quoted above in my earlier post.
Why would you want a person with Romney's Olympic management and security experience to remain silent when there are gaps that are open to another 9-11 or worse attack????
Let's not forget 1972 Munich.
Guest
07-27-2012, 07:19 PM
I'm going to ask this question again, quoted above in my earlier post.
Why would you want a person with Romney's Olympic management and security experience to remain silent when there are gaps that are open to another 9-11 or worse attack????
If Mitt Romney has information about another 9-11 or worse attack, he should report it to the proper authorities, not discuss it on the evening news. If his expertise is so crucial, he should stay in London and advise, and not travel to Israel and Poland.
Guest
07-27-2012, 09:44 PM
The British press, not to mention London's mayor, also had concerns about security.
Guest
07-27-2012, 09:46 PM
arm chair politics is sooooooo easy....no involvement....no responsibility.....nothing personally invested....no risk.....just throw darts and guess a lot....just like real politicians.
btk
Guest
07-27-2012, 09:46 PM
if mitt romney has information about another 9-11 or worse attack, he should report it to the proper authorities, not discuss it on the evening news. If his expertise is so crucial, he should stay in london and advise, and not travel to israel and poland.
bingo!
Guest
07-27-2012, 11:28 PM
If Mitt Romney has information about another 9-11 or worse attack, he should report it to the proper authorities, not discuss it on the evening news. If his expertise is so crucial, he should stay in London and advise, and not travel to Israel and Poland.
You purposely miss the point in order to mock and ridicule according to the Alinsky Method, Rule #5.
Everyone here knows we are talking about known conditions that cause vulnerability to possible 9-11 type attacks, NOT specific "information about another 9-11 or worse attack" that you accuse Romney of being interested in keeping to himself.....while his own wife, family, friends and fellow citizens are present, no less.
Guest
07-28-2012, 07:00 AM
You purposely miss the point in order to mock and ridicule according to the Alinsky Method, Rule #5.
Everyone here knows we are talking about known conditions that cause vulnerability to possible 9-11 type attacks, NOT specific "information about another 9-11 or worse attack" that you accuse Romney of being interested in keeping to himself.....while his own wife, family, friends and fellow citizens are present, no less.
You miss my point. If Mitt Romney is the expert, having run the 2002 Olympics, he needs to advise the Olympic committee of his concerns not discuss it on the evening news. Most people don't go to another's home or country and insult them.
Guest
07-28-2012, 08:39 AM
You miss my point. If Mitt Romney is the expert, having run the 2002 Olympics, he needs to advise the Olympic committee of his concerns not discuss it on the evening news. Most people don't go to another's home or country and insult them.
Romney did play the Ugly American at the Olympics. Hope his wife's horse does better. I wonder who gets the medal if the horse wins??
I doubt if Romney was read into all that much of what was going on with respect to security at the Olympics. He was just parroting what he had heard in the news over the past few weeks.
Guest
07-28-2012, 08:55 AM
Romney did play the Ugly American at the Olympics. Hope his wife's horse does better. I wonder who gets the medal if the horse wins??
I doubt if Romney was read into all that much of what was going on with respect to security at the Olympics. He was just parroting what he had heard in the news over the past few weeks.
Whatever. There still is practically nobody else who has a greater knowledge and stature to make singular comments on the logistical concerns of an Olympics.
Come November (probably by next week, really) this will be a footnote, and unimportant to anyone except the most rabid Romney detractor.
Guest
07-28-2012, 09:01 AM
If by rabid Romney distractor, you mean Karl Rove and Charles Krauthammer, you are correct. Both criticized Mitt Romney for his remarks in London. Watch Krauthammer's remark here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/27/charles-krauthammer-romney-london-olympics_n_1709599.html
Guest
07-28-2012, 11:15 AM
Whatever. There still is practically nobody else who has a greater knowledge and stature to make singular comments on the logistical concerns of an Olympics.
Come November (probably by next week, really) this will be a footnote, and unimportant to anyone except the most rabid Romney detractor.
I just do not see the stature of Mitt Romney. He is hardly of more stature than many of the various Republican and Democratic candidates who have run for President over the past 60 years. He still has to win to get stature. I would rather hear what John McCain, Al Gore, Jr., John Kerry, or any other past candidate had to say about the London Olympics.
I also re-iterate that Mitt Romney probably has not seen any of the massive amount of paperwork done on the London Olympics. He is running for President of the United States and is probably concentrating on that.
Guest
07-28-2012, 11:48 AM
I just do not see the stature of Mitt Romney. He is hardly of more stature than many of the various Republican and Democratic candidates who have run for President over the past 60 years. He still has to win to get stature. I would rather hear what John McCain, Al Gore, Jr., John Kerry, or any other past candidate had to say about the London Olympics.
I also re-iterate that Mitt Romney probably has not seen any of the massive amount of paperwork done on the London Olympics. He is running for President of the United States and is probably concentrating on that.
None of the people you name has anywhere near the Olympic stature of Gov. Mitt Romney who is credited by all, except the most partisan leftists, with saving the Salt Lake Olympics and thus it cannot be denied that he has the inside track on reviewing the logistical planning of an Olympic event.
You've lost total focus here.
Guest
07-28-2012, 12:20 PM
Hope his wife's horse does better. I wonder who gets the medal if the horse wins??
WHOA, Google broke?
Generally, with the exception of equitation all awards go to the horse (horse's owner). The Olympics are the exception in that all awards go to the rider regardless of who owns the horse.
FWIW That horse is not winning.
Guest
07-30-2012, 07:06 AM
Martin Bashir: The Blunderer in Chief (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/martin-bashir/romney-trip-abroad_b_1717573.html)
Not sure how he fared in Jerusalem. http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/view/20120729romney_voices_aggressive_stance_toward_ira n/srvc=home&position=5
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