Support Chick-fil-a Day

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All the Chick-fil-a stores here are being overwhelmed with support. Here is a photo from just one of our 4 stores in Montgomery.

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[COLOR="Red"]GREAT !

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Or, choose NOT to support hatred and bigotry.:)

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My wife and I dropped by Chick-fil-a on 441 and people were standing in line under their umbrellas.

Thursday is suppose to bring the protesters think I'll stop by after my work out

Supporting Chick-fil-a is supporting everyone's Constitutional rights

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Sorry, no support here, what's wrong with everyone just learning to accept all people, enough is enough! I could care less what Cathy believes in, and his beliefs should just be that...his...NOT imposed on others to create such drama. Clearly he forgets the part in the Bible about loving one another. Sad Cathy that you wish to use your business to speak out against others, shame on you frankly!

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BIGOTRY Unwelcome in 5 Major Cities
This week, mayors of Boston, Chicago and San Francisco warned Chick-fil-A and its CEO Dan Cathy, who’s been an outspoken opponent of same-sex marriage, not to pursue new franchises in their cities. Pittsburgh Mayor Luke Ravenstahl said he shares his fellow mayors’ concerns and would consider trying to block the chain as well. Philadelphia City Councilman James Kenney sent a letter to Cathy, telling him to "take a hike and take your intolerance with you" and vowing to introduce a resolution at the next council meeting condemning the company.

Excellent Article:
With Chick-fil-A fight, progressive mayors get their ‘Ground Zero Mosque’ moment - Guest Voices - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/guest-voices/post/with-chick-fil-a-fight-progressive-mayors-get-their-ground-zero-mosque-moment/2012/07/31/gJQAEqTiLX_blog.html)

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Or, choose NOT to support hatred and bigotry.:)

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Or, choose NOT to support hatred and bigotry.:)

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BIGOTRY Unwelcome in 4 Major Cities
This week, mayors of Boston, Chicago and San Francisco warned Chick-fil-A and its CEO Dan Cathy, who’s been an outspoken opponent of same-sex marriage, not to pursue new franchises in their cities. Pittsburgh Mayor Luke Ravenstahl said he shares his fellow mayors’ concerns and would consider trying to block the chain as well.

Excellent Article:
With Chick-fil-A fight, progressive mayors get their ‘Ground Zero Mosque’ moment - Guest Voices - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/guest-voices/post/with-chick-fil-a-fight-progressive-mayors-get-their-ground-zero-mosque-moment/2012/07/31/gJQAEqTiLX_blog.html)



In a letter to the editor of an Illinois newspaper the following was written today: "Regarding the Chick- fil-A uproar: As someone who has been discriminated against because of my orientation, it would be hypocritical to support discrimination against a company for the sole reason of expressing a position based on belief. As long as Chick-fil-A has open hiring practices and honors legislation that recognizes laws honoring gay rights, we absolutely should not keep them from doing business or withhold building permits."

"Our country honors freedom of faith. It goes against everything our country was built upon. How can any of us learn from one another and grow if we are discouraged to express our beliefs in a public venue?"

The letter to the editor concludes by saying: "I appreciate the sentiment of these actions, but not the action. Let us fight this battle fairly and honestly without discrimination. Haven't we had enough of that?"

Another perspective on the Chick-fil-A issue. Personally, I wonder just who these mayors think they are??? Dictator's??? :boxing2:

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So now I have to worry about the religious or political affiliation of my food! I wonder if my Big Mac is pro gun or anti gun. Is my Wendy's classic double for Obamacare? (If it gets supersized, maybe it should be). How about 5 guys hamburgers....that sounds pretty gay! I have another suggestion.....why doesn't everyone just hush!

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Justjim's comments are profound.

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Sorry, no support here, what's wrong with everyone just learning to accept all people, enough is enough! I could care less what Cathy believes in, and his beliefs should just be that...his...NOT imposed on others to create such drama. Clearly he forgets the part in the Bible about loving one another. Sad Cathy that you wish to use your business to speak out against others, shame on you frankly!

taking the gay/lesbian/etc/marriage issues out of the equation - do you care that others are trying to stomp on cathy's freedom of religious belief? could yours or one of your other freedoms be next? what would you support then?

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taking the gay/lesbian/etc/marriage issues out of the equation - do you care that others are trying to stomp on cathy's freedom of religious belief? could yours or one of your other freedoms be next? what would you support then?
I respectfully disagree. Cathy has an absolute right to live his beliefs. I have always respected his company for their beliefs, even if I couldn't get a sandwich from them on Sunday. He hasn't lost a single freedom he had last week. He is still free to believe, to pray, and to state his opinion on whatever subject he wants. However, others are also free to disagree with him.

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BIGOTRY Unwelcome in 5 Major Cities
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Excellent Article:
With Chick-fil-A fight, progressive mayors get their ‘Ground Zero Mosque’ moment - Guest Voices - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/guest-voices/post/with-chick-fil-a-fight-progressive-mayors-get-their-ground-zero-mosque-moment/2012/07/31/gJQAEqTiLX_blog.html)

great article. makes me have to question whether these mayors could now claim that they subscribe to obama's philosophy that small business owners do not do it on their own. it seems one could believe that the mayors have no intention to help anyone start up a business UNLESS they conform to the mayor's beliefs. is that not discrimination in its ultimate form?

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"Which part of the First Amendment does (Boston Mayor) Menino not understand? A business owner’s political or religious beliefs should not be a test for the worthiness of his or her application for a business license," the Boston Globe complained in a July 25 editorial. "History will render judgment on the views of Chick-fil-A executives. City Hall doesn’t have to," the editorial board concluding, having noted that there's no evidence that Chick-fil-A breaks any anti-discrimination laws.....

Read more: Liberal Papers Boston Globe, Chicago Sun-Times Slam Their Mayors for Bullying Chick-fil-A | NewsBusters.org (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2012/07/27/liberal-papers-boston-globe-chicago-sun-times-attack-their-mayors-bull#ixzz22KjdDir1)

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So now I have to worry about the religious or political affiliation of my food! I wonder if my Big Mac is pro gun or anti gun. Is my Wendy's classic double for Obamacare? (If it gets supersized, maybe it should be). How about 5 guys hamburgers....that sounds pretty gay! I have another suggestion.....why doesn't everyone just hush!

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What again does Obama have to do with this issue? This is a slippery slope right to the political forum.

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I did request that this be moved to the political forum earlier this afternoon but it didn't happen, so I jumped in. But I agree it does belong there.

I always like to hear people defending everyone's first amendment rights. I think of people like the owner of Chick Fil A as I think of the KKK. Although their beliefs are based on hate and bigotry, they have the same basic rights as everyone else. But in situations where people have a legal option to allow or disallow bigotry, I can understand people pursuing legal avenues to disallow it.

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taking the gay/lesbian/etc/marriage issues out of the equation - do you care that others are trying to stomp on cathy's freedom of religious belief? could yours or one of your other freedoms be next? what would you support then?

I respectfully disagree. Cathy has an absolute right to live his beliefs. I have always respected his company for their beliefs, even if I couldn't get a sandwich from them on Sunday. He hasn't lost a single freedom he had last week. He is still free to believe, to pray, and to state his opinion on whatever subject he wants. However, others are also free to disagree with him.

barryrx - how do you disagree with a question? where did i say/imply cathy is not entitled to live his belief? he might not have lost a right - but don't you think some folks are trying to stomp on some? do you think the '5 mayors' are simply disagreeing by telling cathy not to even try to open a franchise in their citits?

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I supported and posted under the political forum just so as to be "politically correct" Great job by Chick fil a Nice to see so many Americans who still believe in Traditional marriage, family values, God and Country!!! BRAVO chick fil a !!! We love you!!

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I did request that this be moved to the political forum earlier this afternoon but it didn't happen, so I jumped in. But I agree it does belong there.

I always like to hear people defending everyone's first amendment rights. I think of people like the owner of Chick Fil A as I think of the KKK....

What???!!? W-H-A-T???? The owner of Chick Fil A HIRES gays, he doesn't hang them!

Good Lord, get a grip!

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Don't twist my words around or take them out of context. I see the owner of chick fil a as I see the KKK in that their beliefs are based on hatred and bigotry. That is what I said, and what I meant. I can see why people don't want to be in the political forum. Such exaggeration.

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I did request that this be moved to the political forum earlier this afternoon but it didn't happen, so I jumped in. But I agree it does belong there.

I always like to hear people defending everyone's first amendment rights. I think of people like the owner of Chick Fil A as I think of the KKK. Although their beliefs are based on hate and bigotry, they have the same basic rights as everyone else. But in situations where people have a legal option to allow or disallow bigotry, I can understand people pursuing legal avenues to disallow it.

Quirky, I didn't start this thread as a political issue. I am not asking any TOTV folks to support the events happening today. I was just sharing what was going on outside TV.

WOW, for comments like "hatred and bigotry" (from another post) and especially "KKK" tells how far we need to come as a people to express an issue or a view without such bitterness. If I want a red golf cart and you hate red. . . does that mean you hate me for liking red? Where's the logic?

My apologies to all for starting this mess. :ohdear:

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Yes, let's end it. Glad that you do not want it to be political. As for logic - if a couple wants the right to legally marry and you don't want that, does that make you a bigot? I would say yes. Just MHO.

Some may have interpreted the title of your Thread "Support Chick Fil A Day" as a request to do just that.

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Yes, let's end it. Glad that you do not want it to be political. As for logic - if a couple wants the right to legally marry and you don't want that, does that make you a bigot? I would say yes. Just MHO.

If someone believes something based on personal religious principles and you compare them to the KKK for it, does that make you a religious bigot?

Just wonderin'....

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Not playing the "Political Forum" game

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Don't twist my words around or take them out of context. I see the owner of chick fil a as I see the KKK in that their beliefs are based on hatred and bigotry. That is what I said, and what I meant. I can see why people don't want to be in the political forum. Such exaggeration.

Quirky, Mr. Cathy is a devout Christian as are millions in this country. I think his refusal to compromise his values is heroic. How many people would have the guts to refuse to be bullied by those who oppose his devotion.

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Sorry folks, this is being moved to political forum. Content and tone are not appropriate for the general forum.

Moderator

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It does not appear that Mr. Cathy is the bigot here.

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All the Chick-fil-a stores here are being overwhelmed with support. Here is a photo from just one of our 4 stores in Montgomery.

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4471/30683644933644164301179.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/30683644933644164301179.jpg/)

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If a company owner wants to take a political stance on some issue using his or her company as the medium, that seems well within his/her First Amendment rights.

That being said-- more cows are happy with this decision.

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"Which part of the First Amendment does (Boston Mayor) Menino not understand? A business owner’s political or religious beliefs should not be a test for the worthiness of his or her application for a business license," the Boston Globe complained in a July 25 editorial. "History will render judgment on the views of Chick-fil-A executives. City Hall doesn’t have to," the editorial board concluding, having noted that there's no evidence that Chick-fil-A breaks any anti-discrimination laws.....

Read more: Liberal Papers Boston Globe, Chicago Sun-Times Slam Their Mayors for Bullying Chick-fil-A | NewsBusters.org (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2012/07/27/liberal-papers-boston-globe-chicago-sun-times-attack-their-mayors-bull#ixzz22KjdDir1)



This is where I think the media & many people are missing the point.

It's not about gay or guns or religion or vegan or body piercings or abortion !!

It's about the freedon to believe what you want, and to do your business without what you believe being interfered with by politicians.

We're all running around with little thoughts in our heads and it shouldn't matter to you, me or the next guy where I live, what I buy or do business.

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This is where I think the media & many people are missing the point.

It's not about gay or guns or religion or vegan or body piercings or abortion !!

It's about the freedon to believe what you want, and to do your business without what you believe being interfered with by politicians.

We're all running around with little thoughts in our heads and it shouldn't matter to you, me or the next guy where I live, what I buy or do business.

Or who is married to who.

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Or who is married to who.

That's true. Or who on earth speaks for God. Unless you have come back from the dead AND had a long conversation, who knows what God is thinking?

Why is it that some of the worst people in world history though were the loudest proclaimers that they knew what God was saying?


The owner of Chick-Fil-a must think he has a personal conduit to God that none of us others do.

One thing I like about both Obama and Romney, neither of them seems to think they have God's ear. Or, at least, that they are the only ones who can hear him.

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The owner of Chick-Fil-a must think he has a personal conduit to God that none of us others do.

Quite simply untrue. There is no evidence that supports such a statement.

Let's look at some facts about Chick-Fil-a:
It's the least expensive yet hardest franchise to obtain. To become a new franchise operator costs only $5,000. This is a major contrast to the $500,000 to several million for most fast food franchises.No betting the family fortune and an income is guaranteed.

Less than one percent of the franchise applicants are accepted. The screening process is rigorous.

Total number of franchises and franchise annual income growth are above industry average.

Sales per square foot are among industry highest despite the closed on Sunday policy.

Turnover of staff - one of the best indicators of a company's overall quality, are the lowest in the industry. Franchise operators have a turnover of less than 5% per year. Hourly employees have a turnover of 60% per year which is approximately half the industry average. Pay and benefits are slightly better than other companies in the industry, but the big difference is the closed on Sundays policy. The people like knowing they will be able to plan for activities on one day each week and scheduling will not interfere.

In summary, Chick-Fil-a is a highly successful company with very high charitable givings, a good product and a great place to work. Seems like everything one could ask of a good corporate citizen.

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That's true. Or who on earth speaks for God. Unless you have come back from the dead AND had a long conversation, who knows what God is thinking?

Why is it that some of the worst people in world history though were the loudest proclaimers that they knew what God was saying?


The owner of Chick-Fil-a must think he has a personal conduit to God that none of us others do.

One thing I like about both Obama and Romney, neither of them seems to think they have God's ear. Or, at least, that they are the only ones who can hear him.

but don't those who believe in the bible and follow its scripture, as mr. cathy seems to, also believe that the bible is the word of god as written by its authors - some of whom knew his son, jesus, and shared a close relationship with him?

i have never been a student of the bible, so i can't say that for sure; but it is what i was led to believe by others who have studied the bible.

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Quite simply untrue. There is no evidence that supports such a statement.

Let's look at some facts about Chick-Fil-a:
It's the least expensive yet hardest franchise to obtain. To become a new franchise operator costs only $5,000. This is a major contrast to the $500,000 to several million for most fast food franchises.No betting the family fortune and an income is guaranteed.

Less than one percent of the franchise applicants are accepted. The screening process is rigorous.

Total number of franchises and franchise annual income growth are above industry average.

Sales per square foot are among industry highest despite the closed on Sunday policy.

Turnover of staff - one of the best indicators of a company's overall quality, are the lowest in the industry. Franchise operators have a turnover of less than 5% per year. Hourly employees have a turnover of 60% per year which is approximately half the industry average. Pay and benefits are slightly better than other companies in the industry, but the big difference is the closed on Sundays policy. The people like knowing they will be able to plan for activities on one day each week and scheduling will not interfere.

In summary, Chick-Fil-a is a highly successful company with very high charitable givings, a good product and a great place to work. Seems like everything one could ask of a good corporate citizen.
Make no difference when you don.t agree with the far left demakooks.

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but don't those who believe in the bible and follow its scripture, as mr. cathy seems to, also believe that the bible is the word of god as written by its authors - some of whom knew his son, jesus, and shared a close relationship with him?

i have never been a student of the bible, so i can't say that for sure; but it is what i was led to believe by others who have studied the bible.

The Bible is full of contradictory messages. Who is to say what Jesus would tell a gay couple wanting to be married? Render onto what is Caesar's....

Matthew, Mark, Luke and John also give different versions of Jesus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel


How about this very different picture of Judas?
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/04/0406_060406_judas.html

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The Bible is full of contradictory messages. Who is to say what Jesus would tell a gay couple wanting to be married? Render onto what is Caesar's....

Matthew, Mark, Luke and John also give different versions of Jesus. Gospel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel)

thanx! contradiction or opinion? we'll never know. sorta like the contradictory messages on totv! ;)

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thanx! contradiction or opinion? we'll never know. sorta like the contradictory messages on totv! ;)

That's true. Just kind of bugs me when someone preaches that they speak for God. Maybe the Pope does speak for God...if you are Catholic though.

I cannot see some CEO/owner of Chick-Fil-A speaking for what God wants with respect to gay marriage. And, this has nothing to do with Chick-Fil-A's accounting practices, franchising, profitability margin, patents, management style, etc.

Good article on the gay re-action to Cathy's statement. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/walt-hawkins/dont-have-a-cow-over-chic_b_1728617.html?flv=1