5 Reasons to Go Vegan

[jimbo2012]

Bill Clinton did it.
So did Ellen DeGeneres.
In fact, millions of people around the nation have taken the pledge to go vegan. November is considered World Vegan Month, and it is a great time to take a look at what veganism is and why so many people are moving toward this lifestyle, which eschews using any animal products.

“Veganism is a diet based on living in peace and harmony with the natural world,” explains Louix Dor Dempriey, a spiritual master who started and leads events through the Louix Dor Dempriey Foundation. “There are many great reasons for being vegan, and people around the country are beginning to take notice, helping to increase the number of those who are either vegan or moving toward a vegan lifestyle.”

Many people are familiar with what a vegetarian is: someone who does not eat animals (e.g., no fish, flow, meat, etc.) but may or may not still consume dairy products and eggs. A vegan is a type of vegetarian who takes it one step farther and makes it a lifestyle, rather than just a diet. A vegan does not use or consume any type of animal products at all. This would include avoiding any foods that contain animal products, as well as not using animal products in their clothing or hygiene products. For example, vegans avoid using leather, silk, wool, and cosmetics that have been tested on animals or that contain animal ingredients.

Here are five reasons to go vegan:

1. Your health. Research indicates that those who eat a plant-based diet tend to reap many health benefits, from lower cholesterol and cancer rates to lower heart attack and obesity rates. Eating fruits and vegetables helps to keep your body healthy, as they are loaded with the fiber and antioxidants that the body needs. Vegan diets that contain plenty of fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and protein sources, such as beans, quinoa, tofu, and lentils, are healthy.

2. The planet. Raising animals for foods has been dubbed as one of the most destructive practices on the planet. It is leading to deforestation, an overuse of water, agricultural run-off, and an increase in greenhouse gases. A vegan diet is more environmentally friendly and better for caring for the planet. Vegan diets use a lot less water, land, and resources.

3. The animals. While out of sight often means out of mind, 10 billion land animals are raised and killed in America each year for food. The animals, by and large, live in deplorable conditions and suffer in many ways. Being vegan helps people to live a life that is more in tune with their ideals of being against animal cruelty.

4. Inner peace. By living without killing sentient creatures, we find that we live a more peaceful life. By choosing to dine on food that has not come from bloodshed, we can attain an inner peace that would be hard to find elsewhere.

5. Voting with your dollar. The meat industry is one that involves death, as animals are slaughtered by people trying to make a living. Slaughterhouse workers experience a much higher rate of injury than other factory workers. In addition, nobody should have to make their living by killing animals all day. Doing so often leads to psychological problems and a disconnect with nature.

“Some of the great philosophers and spiritual leaders throughout history have eaten a plant-based diet,” adds Louix, “Adopting a vegan diet will not only help you feel better, but it extends compassion to those at our mercy, and teaches others that they can live a life focused on peace and harmony.”

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[missypie]

Hubby started this plant based lifestyle and has lost 40 lbs in 2 1/2 months, I have dropped 28 lbs. Energy level soaring.

[jimbo2012]

That's what happens every time

Congrats, if we can answer any questions......

[missypie]

We have just started this. I still have some fish. Hubby is complete plant based. If it has a face he won't eat it. I am cooking lentils, beans and all sorts of vegie stir fry no oil recipes. Squash, vegies, salads, chili, and so on. Potatoes, sweet potatoes etc...really eating very well and filling up at all meals. I am learning.....

[Villages PL]

Notice there's no Junk Food Month, no Fast Food Month and no Animal Protein Month.

[Richard1366]

I've started grazing in the back yard, feel much better and I really save on the grass mowing fees...

[samptm]

I have been enjoying a plant based diet since the end of August... I had no health issues, just decided to try this and now.I have lost 15 lbs, eat very well, sleep much better and feel great. Does anyone know if there is a support group in TV ?

[Gerald]

I ate the cow who ate the grass does that count?

[KayakerNC]

I've started grazing in the back yard, feel much better and I really save on the grass mowing fees...

And with the Weed & Feed, you can reduce your salt intake too! :pepper2:

[jimbo2012]

I have been enjoying a plant based diet since the end of August... I had no health issues, just decided to try this and now.I have lost 15 lbs, eat very well, sleep much better and feel great. Does anyone know if there is a support group in TV ?

I was thinking about starting one next month, anyone interested or want help organize same?

By the way nice going on enjoying the diet.

[jimbo2012]

I've started grazing in the back yard, feel much better and I really save on the grass mowing fees...

I'm sure you'll feel better when those chemicals get into your bloodstream, wise guy.

I ate the cow who ate the grass does that count?

Yes, it does count to shortening your life.;)

[NIPAS K-9]

Bill Clinton did it.
So did Ellen DeGeneres.
In fact, millions of people around the nation have taken the pledge to go vegan. November is considered World Vegan Month, and it is a great time to take a look at what veganism is and why so many people are moving toward this lifestyle, which eschews using any animal products.

“Veganism is a diet based on living in peace and harmony with the natural world,” explains Louix Dor Dempriey, a spiritual master who started and leads events through the Louix Dor Dempriey Foundation. “There are many great reasons for being vegan, and people around the country are beginning to take notice, helping to increase the number of those who are either vegan or moving toward a vegan lifestyle.”

Many people are familiar with what a vegetarian is: someone who does not eat animals (e.g., no fish, flow, meat, etc.) but may or may not still consume dairy products and eggs. A vegan is a type of vegetarian who takes it one step farther and makes it a lifestyle, rather than just a diet. A vegan does not use or consume any type of animal products at all. This would include avoiding any foods that contain animal products, as well as not using animal products in their clothing or hygiene products. For example, vegans avoid using leather, silk, wool, and cosmetics that have been tested on animals or that contain animal ingredients.

Here are five reasons to go vegan:

1. Your health. Research indicates that those who eat a plant-based diet tend to reap many health benefits, from lower cholesterol and cancer rates to lower heart attack and obesity rates. Eating fruits and vegetables helps to keep your body healthy, as they are loaded with the fiber and antioxidants that the body needs. Vegan diets that contain plenty of fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and protein sources, such as beans, quinoa, tofu, and lentils, are healthy.

2. The planet. Raising animals for foods has been dubbed as one of the most destructive practices on the planet. It is leading to deforestation, an overuse of water, agricultural run-off, and an increase in greenhouse gases. A vegan diet is more environmentally friendly and better for caring for the planet. Vegan diets use a lot less water, land, and resources.

3. The animals. While out of sight often means out of mind, 10 billion land animals are raised and killed in America each year for food. The animals, by and large, live in deplorable conditions and suffer in many ways. Being vegan helps people to live a life that is more in tune with their ideals of being against animal cruelty.

4. Inner peace. By living without killing sentient creatures, we find that we live a more peaceful life. By choosing to dine on food that has not come from bloodshed, we can attain an inner peace that would be hard to find elsewhere.

5. Voting with your dollar. The meat industry is one that involves death, as animals are slaughtered by people trying to make a living. Slaughterhouse workers experience a much higher rate of injury than other factory workers. In addition, nobody should have to make their living by killing animals all day. Doing so often leads to psychological problems and a disconnect with nature.

“Some of the great philosophers and spiritual leaders throughout history have eaten a plant-based diet,” adds Louix, “Adopting a vegan diet will not only help you feel better, but it extends compassion to those at our mercy, and teaches others that they can live a life focused on peace and harmony.”

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If animals were not intended for us to eat, then GOD would not of put them on the earth. What other purpose do they have? Just another fad, why are people always loking for a new fad, diet or something to try to change the norm..................If you dont like it , fine but dont try to make everyone else nuts with it ...........:spoken:

[jimbo2012]

Two things

The fact is many species are on earth, do you eat them all, no.

Eat what ever you want! I really don't care if you chose to eat dead animals, that choice is yours.

If you don't like the idea why with the word vegan in the title are you getting yourself nuts reading it,

fad, no do some research it goes back further than you can ever imagine.

[Regor]

Lets see, you start life with mothers milk. The way life is intended. You have incisors and canine teeth which are intended for tearing and ripping flesh. Do I feel sorry for the animals that are raised for our consumption? Nope! I truly believe that we have evolved to the animals that we are by what we eat. Animals that live a total vegetable diet are some of the least intelligent creatures. Eat your greens, I'll have a chunk of cow! T bone preferable!

[Barefoot]

I was thinking about starting one next month, anyone interested or want help organize same? By the way nice going on enjoying the diet.

I am interested in a Vegetarian lifestyle. Simply from an animal slaughter point of view. I haven't eaten beef in six years, but i can't seem to progress further. Probably because I don't enjoy cooking, and I fear that Vegetarism involves a lot of time in the kitchen. Perhaps lazy cooks can't be vegetarian. I find that eating lentils gets really boring.

[jimbo2012]

I find that eating lentils gets really boring.

Nothing boring about the food, there R 100's of great dishes some simple if you're in hurry or hate to cook.

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[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

“Veganism is a diet based on living in peace and harmony with the natural world,”

Going vegan for health reasons is perfectly reasonable, but this a crock. The natural world includes a lion biting a monkey's head off and a snake eating a frog alive.

Isn't nature wonderful.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

4. Inner peace. By living without killing sentient creatures, we find that we live a more peaceful life. By choosing to dine on food that has not come from bloodshed, we can attain an inner peace that would be hard to find elsewhere.

Oh yeah. I know I'd live a much more peaceful life knowing that millions of deer and other animals starve to death, die of exposure or get eaten alive by other animals as opposed to being killed quickly by a hunter or at meat producing plant.

[Patty55]

I hear that Bill Clinton drives a car and Ellen DeGeneres wears shoes, so I suppose you will be walking barefoot? You don't have to be a vegan, but you don't have to be jerk either. Just trying to keep it real.

I only wear leather products derived from animals that died in the field from old age.

Hey, it works for me.

[graciegirl]

It is more than a diet choice it is a philosphy of life...and many don't share that way of thinking.


Many of us have ways and choices that differ from others but don't try to change another's mind about it.


When you share your private living choices in a public forum and others don't agree than....who is to call who a jerk?

Jerk isn't nice, but when you enter into a controversial subject, you are bound to stir up emotion and controversy...and RARELY change anyone's opinon.

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[Barefoot]

Bill Clinton did it.
So did Ellen DeGeneres.
In fact, millions of people around the nation have taken the pledge to go avoid using leather, silk, wool, and cosmetics that have been tested on animals or that contain animal ingredients.

Inner peace. By living without killing sentient creatures, we find that we live a more peaceful life. By choosing to dine on food that has not come from bloodshed, we can attain an inner peace that would be hard to find elsewhere.

The meat industry is one that involves death, as animals are slaughtered by people trying to make a living. Slaughterhouse workers experience a much higher rate of injury than other factory workers. In addition, nobody should have to make their living by killing animals all day. Doing so often leads to psychological problems and a disconnect with nature.

“Some of the great philosophers and spiritual leaders throughout history have
eaten a plant-based diet,” adds Louix, “Adopting a vegan diet will not only help you feel better, but it extends compassion to those at our mercy, and teaches
others that they can live a life focused on peace and harmony.”
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If some people achieve inner peace by becoming vegetarians, good for them. It's all about lifestyle choices ... Each to his own.

Going vegan for health reasons is perfectly reasonable, but this a crock. Isn't nature wonderful.

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[jimbo2012]

Just please keep in mind one thing, I didn't write that story, don't shoot the messenger.

:throwtomatoes:



ps: that is a tomato being thrown, as in vegiee :mmmm:

[graciegirl]

Is Monica Lewinsky a vegetarian?

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[jimbo2012]

Is Monica Lewinsky a vegetarian?



You are too much I just laughed so hard I spilled my coffee all over myself.:a20:

[senior citizen]

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[jimbo2012]

A drop of gas on a fire, is that done in moderation?

[Patty55]

Is Monica Lewinsky a vegetarian?

Don't know, but if I recall correctly she enjoyed a good cigar now and then.

[graciegirl]

oh my goodness. ;)

[jimbo2012]

Don't know, but if I recall correctly she enjoyed a good cigar now and then.

Your correct, foreplay

[Taltarzac725]

Veganism - TIME (http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1854996,00.html)

[graciegirl]

Veganism - TIME (http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1854996,00.html)

Interesting and informative article Tal.

But I'd rather bone up on Monica and Bill...:D

[tpop1]

After many years of farm life I'm wondering if we should just have pet pigs, cows, chickens

Can't wait for the "Pet poop posts" then!!!!

[rubicon]

Someone told me never to eat anything with eyes. I wonder if that includes potatoes

[tpop1]

I served in the military to preserve people's rights to being vegans, Jehovah Witnesses, Republicans or Democrats.

I also served in the military to preserve my right to disregard any opinions I want.

God bless America...what a country!

[Patty55]

Interesting and informative article Tal.

But I'd rather bone up on Monica and Bill...:D

You know she has a book coming out.

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[Villages PL]

Bill Clinton did it.
So did Ellen DeGeneres.
In fact, millions of people around the nation have taken the pledge to go vegan. November is considered World Vegan Month, and it is a great time to take a look at what veganism is and why so many people are moving toward this lifestyle, which eschews using any animal products.

“Veganism is a diet based on living in peace and harmony with the natural world,” explains Louix Dor Dempriey, a spiritual master who started and leads events through the Louix Dor Dempriey Foundation. “There are many great reasons for being vegan, and people around the country are beginning to take notice, helping to increase the number of those who are either vegan or moving toward a vegan lifestyle.”

Many people are familiar with what a vegetarian is: someone who does not eat animals (e.g., no fish, flow, meat, etc.) but may or may not still consume dairy products and eggs. A vegan is a type of vegetarian who takes it one step farther and makes it a lifestyle, rather than just a diet. A vegan does not use or consume any type of animal products at all. This would include avoiding any foods that contain animal products, as well as not using animal products in their clothing or hygiene products. For example, vegans avoid using leather, silk, wool, and cosmetics that have been tested on animals or that contain animal ingredients.

Here are five reasons to go vegan:

1. Your health. Research indicates that those who eat a plant-based diet tend to reap many health benefits, from lower cholesterol and cancer rates to lower heart attack and obesity rates. Eating fruits and vegetables helps to keep your body healthy, as they are loaded with the fiber and antioxidants that the body needs. Vegan diets that contain plenty of fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and protein sources, such as beans, quinoa, tofu, and lentils, are healthy.

2. The planet. Raising animals for foods has been dubbed as one of the most destructive practices on the planet. It is leading to deforestation, an overuse of water, agricultural run-off, and an increase in greenhouse gases. A vegan diet is more environmentally friendly and better for caring for the planet. Vegan diets use a lot less water, land, and resources.

3. The animals. While out of sight often means out of mind, 10 billion land animals are raised and killed in America each year for food. The animals, by and large, live in deplorable conditions and suffer in many ways. Being vegan helps people to live a life that is more in tune with their ideals of being against animal cruelty.

4. Inner peace. By living without killing sentient creatures, we find that we live a more peaceful life. By choosing to dine on food that has not come from bloodshed, we can attain an inner peace that would be hard to find elsewhere.

5. Voting with your dollar. The meat industry is one that involves death, as animals are slaughtered by people trying to make a living. Slaughterhouse workers experience a much higher rate of injury than other factory workers. In addition, nobody should have to make their living by killing animals all day. Doing so often leads to psychological problems and a disconnect with nature.

“Some of the great philosophers and spiritual leaders throughout history have eaten a plant-based diet,” adds Louix, “Adopting a vegan diet will not only help you feel better, but it extends compassion to those at our mercy, and teaches others that they can live a life focused on peace and harmony.”

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I call myself a vegan because it's the best way I know to describe my lifestyle, meaning the diet aspect of my lifestyle. But according to the above description of what a vegan is, I'm not a true vegan. I fail the test in many ways. I eat a vegan diet because I'm mainly interested in the health aspects of veganism. I enjoy good health and I aim to keep myself healthy for as long as possible. And this is the best way I know how to do it.

To be fair, I think the above description of a true vegan is simply that, a description of a true vegan. I believe it is an accurate description of someone who takes veganism all the way. But no where does it say that you must take it to that level. Obviously, no one can make anyone do anything.
So why all the paranoia?

As I see it, the five reasons to go vegan are simply five reasons and no one is compelled to adhere to all five reasons. Many people, like myself, call themselves vegans for reason #1. And that's it. Some people might choose reasons number 2 & 3 and not care about the others.

Again, as I see it, this thread, in the opening post, put forth suggestions for those who might be interested. Those who are not interested have the option of moving along to the next thread.

[jimbo2012]

Those who are not interested have the option of moving along to the next thread.

You bring up a great point, why when readers see threads that I've started knowing that it relates to Vegan (because I always put that word in the subject) rather than ignore the subject read and knock it having never researched it or tried it.

Strange.

I'm only posting this subject for those that care about their heath in the form of diet :mmmm: rather than pills meds and surgery.

but I'm certainly not twisting anyone's arm, eat as you wish if you don't care. (don't let your scripts expire)

But if you do I'll be happy to answer questions or refer to books etc.

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[Barefoot]

You bring up a great point, why when readers see threads that I've started knowing that it relates to Vegan (because I always put that word in the subject) rather than ignore the subject read and knock it having never researched it or tried it.
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I would like more information on a vegetarian lifestyle. I'm curious. If you were to hold an information meeting, I'd attend. I think that was your original question.

[kissmelatr]

I would be interested in a club for vegetarians. Would be great to get some good receips.

[philnpat]

Someone told me never to eat anything with eyes. I wonder if that includes potatoes

Does that include pIckles and onIons?

[jimbo2012]

Well I think they may have meant, nothing with a face or don't eat anything that had a mother.

Now if U know of a mother pickle, than that's a different story.:shrug:

[graciegirl]

Well I think they may have meant, nothing with a face or don't eat anything that had a mother.

Now if U know of a mother pickle, than that's a different story.:shrug:

There IS mother of vinegar.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_of_vinegar

but that's a sour subject.

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[Patty55]

You bring up a great point, why when readers see threads that I've started knowing that it relates to Vegan (because I always put that word in the subject) rather than ignore the subject read and knock it having never researched it or tried it.

Strange.

I'm only posting this subject for those that care about their heath in the form of diet :mmmm: rather than pills meds and surgery.

but I'm certainly not twisting anyone's arm, eat as you wish if you don't care. (don't let your scripts expire)

But if you do I'll be happy to answer questions or refer to books etc.

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How long are you doing the Vegan thing?

[jimbo2012]

We started April '11 so about 20 months

[Barefoot]

I was thinking about starting one next month, anyone interested?

I think you have some interested people .... some committed, some skeptical, some confused .... but wanting to learn more. When is the first meeting?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

As with most everything there are plenty of contradictory views as well.

There are plenty of contradictory views. In fact there are many cardiologists who have the exact opposite opinion. They believe that most heart, cardiovascular, and weight problems come from excess sugar mostly from carbohydrates. many recommend staying away from carbs and eating mostly low fat proteins in the form of chicken, fish and low fat beef and pork.

I'm not saying that one is right and one is wrong. In fact I am very confused because the evidence presented and results attained by both of these groups is impressive.

I've tried the vegan thing for about three months and I've put on about 10 pounds. I've probably been too much into carbs like rice and pasta, but I find it very difficult to follow the green leafy vegetable diet. It takes a lot of time to make meals and eating out, in spite of what they say is pretty much impossible.

I don't go to doctors anymore so I have no idea what my sugar and cholesterol numbers are. I'll probably go have them checked in January when my new insurance kicks in.

They also say that reasonable alcohol consumption is fine. What is that? Is 2-3 beers a day reasonable?

[jimbo2012]

I've tried the vegan thing for about three months and I've put on about 10 pounds. I've probably been too much into carbs like rice and pasta, but I find it very difficult to follow the green leafy vegetable diet. It takes a lot of time to make meals and eating out, in spite of what they say is pretty much impossible.



Winston I can say with authority, that it is virtually impossible to gain weight.

No one ever reported that unless they didn't realize something in their diet was wrong.

If I do set up a meeting you may want to attend, you are eating something very wrong.

[jimbo2012]

I think you have some interested people .... some committed, some skeptical, some confused .... but wanting to learn more. When is the first meeting?

Ok if there's interest we'll have a get together, I'll be there in two weeks.

Can someone that knows how to reserve a room in a rec center help arrange it?

Or where ever else may work.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Winston I can say with authority, that it is virtually impossible to gain weight.

No one ever reported that unless they didn't realize something in their diet was wrong.

If I do set up a meeting you may want to attend, you are eating something very wrong.


Like I said a lot of pasta, rice, quinoa with beans, corn and other vegetables. Lots of salad with lettuce, corn, beans, cucumber, celery, olives, beets, carrots and only balsamic vinegar as a dressing. Two or three beers a day. A bowl of very low sugar cereal with a banana and sometimes some blueberries and low fat, low sugar soy milk in the morning.

[jimbo2012]

What type of pasta?

What is on or in the pasta,

Where's the veggies?

I have beer, that isn't it.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I make my own pasta sauce with no oil. I put onions, peppers,olives and mushrooms in it.
Veggies? Did you read my post? I listed everything that I put in my salads which I eat every day.
I only buy whole wheat pasta and brown rice. Nothing enriched.
The other thing about this way of living is that I'm hungry all the time. I eat lunch and want to eat again within 15 minutes. Then I want to eat again a few hours later.

[jimbo2012]

Spoke to my other half, all sounds ok, the one she pointed out to ask is what is this, "very low sugar cereal".

Also you may need to cut back on the pasta, and go with more veggies.

I have other issues & questions but an open forum such as this is not the best place.

We would be happy to meet you for a drink & discuss in detail several things.
We don't mind taking our time for anyone that is truly interested as U seem to be in eating healthy.

You are on the right track and I think there is some adjustments needed or foods to be replaced. I have some ingredients and dishes to get you quick start.

I know this works, you will lose weight, you will decrease your soft plaque lower BP and have more energy, stick with it until we meet.

Everyone on a plant based diet loses weight until they reach their correct BMI, then the weight is stable.

I eat until I feel full, never hungry in 15 minutes, I bet I eat more than U.

Hang in there when the bugs are worked out of the diet you should love it and may drop some or all of your meds.

[Villages PL]

Like I said a lot of pasta, rice, quinoa with beans, corn and other vegetables. Lots of salad with lettuce, corn, beans, cucumber, celery, olives, beets, carrots and only balsamic vinegar as a dressing. Two or three beers a day. A bowl of very low sugar cereal with a banana and sometimes some blueberries and low fat, low sugar soy milk in the morning.

How many calories in a bottle of Budeiser? I looked it up on the internet. It said 129 calories. So three beers a day is nearly 400 calories. That's way too much. You can't just ignore that if you're trying to maintain an ideal healthy weight.

Then there's the pasta, rice and corn. It's not reasonable to think that you can just eat unlimited amounts of starches. I measure all starches so that I consume no more than one serving of one starch per meal. In other words, one slice of bread is one serving. So if you have one slice of bread in a meal you shouldn't have any pasta, rice, potatoes or corn in the same meal. If you choose pasta, make it one serving and don't have any other starch with it.

By the way, beer is a processed carbohydrate, is it not? So if you have a beer and lots of starchy carbs in one meal, you're asking for trouble. It's just not realistic to think that you can maintain a healthy weight this way.

[jimbo2012]

Not soo sure of that,

It may be something else, although you're not incorrect.

[Villages PL]

Not soo sure of that,

It may be something else, although you're not incorrect.

I just commented on what I know about his diet and I agree that I don't know everything about it. I guess my point would be that an overweight problem usually involves excess calorie consumption in relation to a person's activity level. Those with a very high activity level, like athletes, can consume more starchy carbs without having a weight problem. But most people are in the moderate category and need to watch carbs carefully.

Anyway, if you're looking for a weight gain culprit, where do you look? You look at foods that are calorie dense like fats and carbs and these should be measured for that reason. The only thing I know of that can be eaten in unlimited amounts is non-starchy vegetables. Not looking for an argument, just trying to put things in a better perspective.

[pooh]

Like I said a lot of pasta, rice, quinoa with beans, corn and other vegetables. Lots of salad with lettuce, corn, beans, cucumber, celery, olives, beets, carrots and only balsamic vinegar as a dressing. Two or three beers a day. A bowl of very low sugar cereal with a banana and sometimes some blueberries and low fat, low sugar soy milk in the morning.

You eat lots of carbs, are hungry....is there a possibility that you are diabetic or pre-diabetic? With this situation maybe you need to have your blood sugar levels checked. All sorts of things can be assumed, but it's probably better to have some tests to rule out things.

[manaboutown]

Oops. Misread the title. I thought it said 5 reasons to go to Vegas!

[Villages PL]

You eat lots of carbs, are hungry....is there a possibility that you are diabetic or pre-diabetic? With this situation maybe you need to have your blood sugar levels checked. All sorts of things can be assumed, but it's probably better to have some tests to rule out things.

:agree: And here are some other ideas that might explain the hunger.

How big is the "big salad"? Never assume you know how big big is when someone says big. Big to me is when I make a salad that fills up a whole salad bowl (not a cereal bowl). I would say my salad is about 10 half-cup servings and holds me until dinner time. Also, I use 1 teaspoon of olive oil and I suppose that helps keep me satisfied too. One cup of beans in the salad and a slice of Ezekiel bread with the salad.

Another idea: When people decide to become vegans they may understand that they need B vitamins like B12. What if they decide to buy B complex instead of just B12? B complex may cause a person to get very hungry. Too hungry! That's what happened to me when I tried B complex many years ago. I had to stop taking this supplement after a short period of time.

[jimbo2012]

Several have for a meeting to ask questions and exchange ideas about a vegan diet I've been in touch with a few people to try arrange a meeting room for January.

If anyone know the people to contact please PM me.

I was thinking about show first the movie Forks over Kneives, about 90 minutes, then have an open Q&A, those that have see the movie can come later.

I know one of the patients that appeared in the movie, he lives in Tampa and does meeting such as these.

Would anyone be interested in this?

[Villages PL]

Several have for a meeting to ask questions and exchange ideas about a vegan diet I've been in touch with a few people to try arrange a meeting room for January.

If anyone know the people to contact please PM me.

I was thinking about show first the movie Forks over Kneives, about 90 minutes, then have an open Q&A, those that have see the movie can come later.

I know one of the patients that appeared in the movie, he lives in Tampa and does meeting such as these.

Would anyone be interested in this?

A meeting room for a one-time meeting may not be possible. However, I'll try to remember to inquire about it on monday and I'll let you know. Rooms are usually reserved for clubs with a weekly, bi-weekly or monthly commitment for club meetings. The reason is that rooms are hard to come by; there's a big demand. But I'll inquire anyway and let you know.

[Villages PL]

Correction: I actually measured my last salad and it's not 8 half-cup servings. It's more like 10 to 11 half-cups. That includes the cup of beans.

Another idea to control weight: I only have a few ears of corn when corn is in season. I estimate about 6 to 8 ears of corn. I break them in half and only eat half an ear with a meal. Eating lots of corn is a fast way to gain weight.

When I was a kid I lived on a farm and my brother told me that he would feed starches to the cattle when it was time to fatten them up for market. The main starches were corn, potatoes, grain and bread (he sometimes bought a truckload of stale bread for that purpose).

Cattle can graze on pasture grass all day long, every day, and never fatten up. So think of a green (starch free) salad as being the grass. That's what you want to concentrate on.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

It is more than a diet choice it is a philosphy of life...and many don't share that way of thinking.


Many of us have ways and choices that differ from others but don't try to change another's mind about it.


When you share your private living choices in a public forum and others don't agree than....who is to call who a jerk?

Jerk isn't nice, but when you enter into a controversial subject, you are bound to stir up emotion and controversy...and RARELY change anyone's opinon.

I agree, Gracie, but when people start promoting their way of life by saying that others should feel guilty because they are killing "sentient" beings or destroying the atmosphere, they are insulting everyone that doesn't agree with those viewpoints. Even still name calling has no place on this or any other forum or in life in general for that matter.

[justjim]

For what it's worth! Just saw Hillary on news cable---obviously she is not on the same diet as Bill! I find the posts on this thread interesting but IMHO you should discuss major diet changes with your primary doctor BEFORE you participate in a diet that may or may not be beneficial to your overall health.

[jimbo2012]

Provided your doctor knows what the diet is, most don't or don't understand it.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Winston I can say with authority, that it is virtually impossible to gain weight.

No one ever reported that unless they didn't realize something in their diet was wrong.

If I do set up a meeting you may want to attend, you are eating something very wrong.

I can tell you WITH AUTHORITY, that I gave up all animal products and oils for a month and gained weight.

I think that what a lot of people have said on here about corn, sugar and other carbohydrates is true. In order to lose weight you have to basically eat lettuce.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

A drop of gas on a fire, is that done in moderation?

Cute little analogy from Dr Esselstyn who admits to eating a handful of peanut butter cups every New Years Eve. Why is he throwing gasoline on his fire?

Maybe a more realistic analogy might be if there was a fire being fed by a gasoline hose and you turned down the volume of the hose by 50% would that be good?

Why does Dr Esselstyn's friend and compatriot, Dr Ornish allow egg whites and certain oils in his program? Logically, Dr Esselstyn would think that Dr Ornish just doesn't care as much about people, animals and the environment as he does.

[jimbo2012]

Why does Dr Esselstyn's friend and compatriot, Dr Ornish allow egg whites and certain oils in his program? Logically, Dr Esselstyn would think that Dr Ornish just doesn't care as much about people, animals and the environment as he does.

I think Dr Ornish changed his position on that, check the date of your info.

I can tell you WITH AUTHORITY, that I gave up all animal products and oils for a month and gained weight.

I think that what a lot of people have said on here about corn, sugar and other carbohydrates is true. In order to lose weight you have to basically eat lettuce.

I offered to help you, I'll be there next week, we eat corn and plenty of carbs, no weight gain.

If you want to discuss this PM me and we can meet soon.

We believe there is something in your diet that you may be overlooking.

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[jimbo2012]

I'm working on a meeting for interested people sometime in January trying to block a 3 hour window at one of the rec centers.

Stay tuned

[certcoder_1]

Yes, I would agree. I went vegan due to health issues, it was the right thing for me to do. I feel 10 years younger, have lost 36 lbs since september. I never thought I could go w/o all the stuff, I actually enjoy it.

[jimbo2012]

Fantastic,

there is going to a big meeting soon in January about the diet, trying to arrange a special guest speaker now.

[looneycat]

Provided your doctor knows what the diet is, most don't or don't understand it.

let's see, are you a doctor or any kind of professional health provider?? if not I would take their advice way before yours, especially on a major diet change. Weight loss is will power, period. vegan, vegetarian and other diets that take extreme positions are just substitutes for true willpower because you are "following' someone else's 'will'. I recently found my weight had gotten out of hand so I went to a good breakfast, dried fruit and nuts during the day and a light dinner...I've lost 45 pounds in 3.5 months. I feel fine, for those 2 meals I eat WHATEVER I want.
So you wanna be vegan...good luck, you might not be heading down as healthy a diet trail as you believe, but that's an individual choice.

[Villages PL]

let's see, are you a doctor or any kind of professional health provider?? if not I would take their advice way before yours, especially on a major diet change. Weight loss is will power, period. vegan, vegetarian and other diets that take extreme positions are just substitutes for true willpower because you are "following' someone else's 'will'. I recently found my weight had gotten out of hand so I went to a good breakfast, dried fruit and nuts during the day and a light dinner...I've lost 45 pounds in 3.5 months. I feel fine, for those 2 meals I eat WHATEVER I want.
So you wanna be vegan...good luck, you might not be heading down as healthy a diet trail as you believe, but that's an individual choice.

Just the fact of losing weight for 3.5 months is not the only test of a healthy diet.

[jimbo2012]

Moreover, looneycat did not read any of Dr. Esseltyn, Dr. Campbell books or DVD.

Be ready for January 10th, I'm doing a seminar.