Katie belles-yuk

[Brooklynqueen]

Went to Katie Belles for an event with 6 people. EVERYONE left their food on their plate the food was so awful

[graciegirl]

boy howdy.

And welcome to the forum.

[Golfingnut]

But wasn't the atmosphere wonderful with all the Oak designed wood etc. We love it and go quite often. Katie Belles is a real treat with the live entertainment. We have had some good, not great food there, but never awful. You must have caught them on the cooks day off. I recommend you carry a bottle of hot sauce whenever you dine out and if the food is bad, just splash some on and go for it.

[mulligan]

And what did the manager say when you discussed it with him ?

[eremite06]

I can't stand going there. I flash back to my single days, then get smacked back into reality.
Wow, these people are my age and older! Just can't get into it.

[Bonny]

All 6 had bad meals, paid for them & then left them ? :confused: Did you talk to anyone about it ?

[sandybill2]

The only thing I have had at Katie Belles is their fried fish sandwich at lunch---it is really good, Their french fries are also the best. I go for entertainment---atmosphere--- Always take company there at lunch and so far everyone has followed our advice and gotten the fish sandwich with no complaints

[swrinfla]

I may well have posted similar comments before. I think, however, that an initial impression, no matter how old it may be, is worth keeping in view!

Shortly after I closed here in January 2005, my brother and his family demanded that I take them to Katie Belle's considering that I was now a Villager and could do so! We were so disappointed in the experience that we have never gone again!

The decibel level was unbelievably horrible! No accommodations were met for my wheel-chair-bound sister-in-law. Rude staff. Marginal food. Unbearably crowded seating!

Yes, that's years ago, but my family never even suggested that I use my privileges as a Villager ever again!

And, frankly, to this day, I will not go there!

SWR
:beer3:

[paulandjean]

Overated................................

[rubicon]

There you go again. complaining about food orders 6 of 6. Yet you paid the billt and never complained to the manager. why didn't you hunt down the manager and have him walk you through step by step of their process starting from when they order their product and for whom to the storing, cooking, distributing to customers. Don't they keep records of other people either praising them or complaining...and did they open their records to you
Shame on you for not channeling Sherlock Holmes. You get what you give:rant-rave:

Of course you did the right thing. Katie Belle's been around for a long time now and they know exactly what they are and where they make money and they could care less what you think. They have a monopoly

[blue72]

We have always enjoyed the music, people, and food. Never had a bad experience and have been going there for about 6 years.

[OldDave]

Boy this topic seems to come up quite often. We didn't get there this summer. We sort of want to when we come back. But a loud club atmosphere certainly wouldn't hold any interest for us. So, maybe we'll have to settle for the other 999 things to do. I do wonder why they don't improve the food. Even those of you who like the place describe the food as average.

[kimball]

Went to Katie Belles for an event with 6 people. EVERYONE left their food on their plate the food was so awful

Last time, ever, that I went to an event at KB, I would describe the food as worse than awful. Complaining is a lost cause because that's the regular crap they serve, especially at events. I agree, pay the bill, don't ever go back annd tell all your friend who might be smart enough to care and believe you.

[gomoho]

I've only enjoyed Sunday brunch and thought it was excellent - great price, good service, and an excellent variety!

[DougB]

Good! An unhappy customer. More room for when I go.

[PammyJ]

I love Katie Bells! A dining experience is more than just the food, sometimes it is the atmosphere! If the food is around the same quality as what I cook, I can stand it. ( I'm not that great of a cook sometimes, even though I love cooking) so good fries and ok food, great atmosphere and music..... I will keep going back!

[DougB]

I love Katie Bells! A dining experience is more than just the food, sometimes it is the atmosphere! If the food is around the same quality as what I cook, I can stand it. ( I'm not that great of a cook sometimes, even though I love cooking) so good fries and ok food, great atmosphere and music..... I will keep going back!

Do not believe her. PammyJ is an excellent cook!

[graciegirl]

I've only enjoyed Sunday brunch and thought it was excellent - great price, good service, and an excellent variety!

The best thing is the wonderful service and the bread pudding. And THE PRICE!!!

Not a Katie Belles goer much but the few times I went in the evening, I saw beautiful dancing duo's and don't remember eating any ummm "crap" . ;)

I don't recall it being an ultimate dining experience either.

If everyone liked the same thing..........they would only sell Rum Raisin ice cream...(MY fave)

Some people put more emphasis on dining experiences than others and if you are a wannabe, please come down and see if you like the grub before you move here.

[mickey100]

We like Katie Belles as a nightclub. A terrific place to go dance, listen to music, watch the people, order some drinks and perhaps munchies. As far as a place to consider for dinner - not a chance. Everyone has different tastes and standards, and being on the square, it will get patronage just because "its there". We have found many better restaurants off campus like Carrabas, Bonefish, etc. Food and atmosphere at Katie Belles, in our opinion, doesn't come close to those eating establishments.

[Taltarzac725]

We have always enjoyed the music, people, and food. Never had a bad experience and have been going there for about 6 years.

Have not been there for a while but the times we were there the food was OK and the entertainment was par for the Villages. The same acts seem to circulate at Katie Belles and then on the Squares.

Of course, there are much better places like Bonefish Grill to have a relatively quiet meal.

[memason]

I guess I see Katie Belle's as the ONLY Villages nightclub. We don't usually eat there, but we have and I don't consider the food to be "crap". It's bar food...

We only go there to dance and have a good time. It's also a nice venue to see some of your favorite bands or just have a good night out with friends.

[gocubsgo]

Go to KB's for the entertainment..not the food. There's a reason their steaks are $9.99..they wouldn't dare charge more for that cut of meat!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

We've been there a few times. The food has always been mediocre at best. The Sunday breakfast buffet is OK. Not great, but passable. The entertainment runs from bearable to simply awful. The whole "singles scene" is absurd. And if I never see anyone line dancing again, it will be too soon. What is with that? They look like a bunch of robots.

[graciegirl]

We've been there a few times. The food has always been mediocre at best. The entertainment runs from bearable to simply awful. The whole "singles scene" is absurd. And if I never see anyone line dancing again, it will be too soon. What is with that? They look like a bunch of robots.

Winston. Deep breaths.

I can't line dance either but you have to admit they are GOOD! I admit that I am jealous. I always go left when the rest are going right.

Why is the singles scene absurd? You aren't single and I'm not either. But a lot of people are. They probably think couples are absurd. A lot of hand holding and eye gazing going on here that you don't see other places.

I can't comment on the entertainment. But it always has been entertaining.

Come on fella. This isn't like you.

I know. It is literally freezing outside. You forgot your sweater.

[JoeC1947]

Back on topic......I have eaten there once and my pot roast was so salty I couldn't eat it and I like salt. No, I didn't complain to the manager I just won't go back. However, the entertainment was good.

[njbchbum]

do folks really go to kb's for the food? I thought it was just for the dancing and the singles action. matter of fact - I have rarely seen better entertainment than the singles action that goes on there! ;)

[2BNTV]

I went there once for a meal and it was vey good. I agree with the posters that KB's is more for entertaining than a place to eat a good meal. But then, I am very easy to please. :smiley:

[buggyone]

Gracie is the voice of reason once again.

Winston Boogie must not go to the town squares because you will see line dancing at all of them. Can he say that the Katie Belle's entertainers such as Mary Jo Vitale, Rocky & The Rollers, Norman Lee, and Cactus Jack & The Cadillacs are no good? All of them are excellent!

Sure the food is not something to go wild about. If you want real good food, go to Glenview CC or to Lopez Legacy CC.

[De Lis]

We don't go to Kadie's for the food, we go for the entertainment and have never been disappointed. In fact, we have tickets for Tuesday night!

[DottieL]

We totally agree, Katie Belles food is terrible, the accoustics are bad and they really don't have any accomodations for the handicap! What kind of representation is this for a wonderful, active retirement community? Wake up people, you are not doing the right thing.

[graciegirl]

We totally agree, Katie Belles food is terrible, the accoustics are bad and they really don't have any accomodations for the handicap! What kind of representation is this for a wonderful, active retirement community? Wake up people, you are not doing the right thing.

Boy howdy.

And Welcome to the forum.

[kimball]

Boy howdy.

And Welcome to the forum.

This is the second "Boy Howdy" in this thread and about the 300th I've seen in the last few months. Always seems to follow someone's first post on the forum. Is this a way of expressing displeasure because someone's first post is contrary to your opinion?

[justjim]

Maybe missing something here but isn't there two places----Katie Belle's down and Cattle Baron Club upstairs? We have always Gone upstairs. With the right balcony table upstairs you can view the entertainment and enjoy your food and it's a bit quieter. The only place reserved for Villager's and guests----enjoyable occasionally and it is what it is.

[billethkid]

is there still a Cattle Baron's upstairs KB??

Last time there 2-4 years ago....seemed like the CB was an attempt at trying to be a better dining experience. They never attained that from our limited experience.

They are part of a long list of too many restaurants that rank no better than an OK.

Everybody's taste is different as well as their opinion regarding food. I for one have said there is no real "fine" dining in TV. There are a few good places to eat that are way above the rest like Bonefish Grille. Then the many OK ones and then far too many wannabes.

Fine dining aside....there is no magic to a successful restaurant here in TV (or anywhere else for that matter)...
clean
excellent service
excellent food
reasonable pricing
excellent service

(like Bonefish Grille!!!)

yet how many have come and gone in the 9 years we have been here.

btk

[justjim]

This is the second "Boy Howdy" in this thread and about the 300th I've seen in the last few months. Always seems to follow someone's first post on the forum. Is this a way of expressing displeasure because someone's first post is contrary to your opinion?

Kimball: Of course "boy howdy" is a good old' southern slang term that has multiple meanings. I've heard it most of my life. In looking at what somebody has posted, it could mean---surprised at the "harshness"of your post. Like I said it has a number of meanings. Gracie, I'm sure will fill you in! Boy Howdy.

[franzschmidt]

This is my first ever reply but why can't a person make a comment about an experience in the Villages without being subtly attacked for it.

"Did you contact the manager" - implies that if you didn't your observation/standing as an upright citizen is questionable.

"Good more room for me" -needs no explanation.

The apologists in this forum always make you feel welcome, Not!

[graciegirl]

This is the second "Boy Howdy" in this thread and about the 300th I've seen in the last few months. Always seems to follow someone's first post on the forum. Is this a way of expressing displeasure because someone's first post is contrary to your opinion?

No. It is a dialect spoken in the midwest.

[graciegirl]

This is my first ever reply but why can't a person make a comment about an experience in the Villages without being subtly attacked for it.

"Did you contact the manager" - implies that if you didn't your observation/standing as an upright citizen is questionable.

"Good more room for me" -needs no explanation.

The apologists in this forum always make you feel welcome, Not!

Franzel,

Ja. But what would we do with our time when it's kinda cold to play golf or swim?

And...people who live here for awhile take a little ownership and pride in things. Not that all things are perfect but most of us are about as happy as we have ever been and sometimes are surprised at what we think are ...well.

You are right. We should just agree.

I am the worst.

Welkommen. My brothers name is Franz.

I hope you enjoy the give and take. I don't think anyone really means to attack anyone. Some of us are far more defensive of this wonderful place than others. I am frequently thought to work for the developers.

I ain't right.

Hang around, you will see.

Kindest wishes,
Gracie

[OldDave]

Franz, I would invite you to look at a couple of thread about this topic. Please add your thoughts if you like.

How do you go about being non-judgemental.

and

Do we have to be so intolerant.

I'm sorry I don't know how to put the link to those threads in, maybe so one will help me out.

They are both in the main TV discussion list.

As to your two examples, I guess I'm OK with someone asking if you complained. Although one of those was kind of harshly worded. The "good more room for me" comments and "well don't move here if you don't like it" stuff is just rude by anyone's measure.

[JoeC1947]

This is the second "Boy Howdy" in this thread and about the 300th I've seen in the last few months. Always seems to follow someone's first post on the forum. Is this a way of expressing displeasure because someone's first post is contrary to your opinion?

I tend to agree that in the context it was used, I take it as an expression of non-approval. Here is the meaning I found...

Boy howdy” is another Southernism, usually attributed to Texas and evidently popular in that state. It’s a simple combination of the exclamation “Boy!” (indicating surprise) and our friend “Howdy,” together used to mean “Wow!” or to indicate strong agreement with a statement or question (“Was your mom mad at you?” “Boy howdy! I’m grounded for a month.”). The phrase seems to have been popularized in the years after World War I, when returning soldiers who had heard it from Texans in the service brought it back to civilian life. A related form, “boy hidy,” is a fairly weird but nonetheless popular variation. Texas, land of mystery.

Anyway...off topic again.

[graciegirl]

I tend to agree that in the context it was used, I take it as an expression of non-approval. Here is the meaning I found...

Boy howdy” is another Southernism, usually attributed to Texas and evidently popular in that state. It’s a simple combination of the exclamation “Boy!” (indicating surprise) and our friend “Howdy,” together used to mean “Wow!” or to indicate strong agreement with a statement or question (“Was your mom mad at you?” “Boy howdy! I’m grounded for a month.”). The phrase seems to have been popularized in the years after World War I, when returning soldiers who had heard it from Texans in the service brought it back to civilian life. A related form, “boy hidy,” is a fairly weird but nonetheless popular variation. Texas, land of mystery.

Anyway...off topic again.

Thank you. It is kind of like the VERY old joke about the girl who went to charm school and learned to say FANTASTIC instead of....... lllll

I said Boy Howdy because I am ALWAYS surprised when someone's first post is negative. There are so many positive things to say about just about everything here in this wonderful place for seniors to live. And if you don't like Katie Belles...well. You may be right....and you may be wrong.

Who gives ME the right to be positive? The same nobody who gives anybody the right to be negative.

We just have to be who we are.

[justjim]

Hey folks---we need to "lighten up" a bit and not be so sensitive. If a post says something is bad that is their opinion. If a post says something is good that is their opinion. Reasonable people will disagree. "I'm a man of fixed and unbending principle, the first is to be flexible at all times.". Anonymous I like that----could have said----Boy Howdy!

[mickey100]

I tend to agree that in the context it was used, I take it as an expression of non-approval. Here is the meaning I found...

Boy howdy” is another Southernism, usually attributed to Texas and evidently popular in that state. It’s a simple combination of the exclamation “Boy!” (indicating surprise) and our friend “Howdy,” together used to mean “Wow!” or to indicate strong agreement with a statement or question (“Was your mom mad at you?” “Boy howdy! I’m grounded for a month.”). The phrase seems to have been popularized in the years after World War I, when returning soldiers who had heard it from Texans in the service brought it back to civilian life. A related form, “boy hidy,” is a fairly weird but nonetheless popular variation. Texas, land of mystery.

Anyway...off topic again.

I agree, it generally seems to be used as an expression of displeasure. Anytime something less that stellar is posted about The Villages, some people get very defensive. Most of us just ignore it.

[Bonny]

Cattle Baron is one of our favorite places to go. We have been here 12 1/2/ years and have seen a lot of changes to Katie Belles / Cattle Baron. I love sitting on the balcony having a drink & always enjoy dinner there.
Katie Belles doesn't have the greatest food, but there are several things on the menu that I like. I'm pretty easy to please.
I remember going on Tuesdays for the $1.00 burger then going upstairs to shoot pool.
Ya gotta LOVE the Villages. There is something for everyone !!!

[OldDave]

I seem to be talking a lot about civility lately, and if you're sick of hearing it from me, I do apologize.

Gracie, as I've said many times, I respect you greatly and do understand how much you love this place. Boy Howdy, is a pretty darn mild response. But I would point out this thread is "Katie Belles-Yuk". That really invites other negatives by it's very name. So it's not like the poster was going out of their way to be negative, just piling on. I guess I see that a bit different than a first post that is negative out of the clear blue.

Jim, I would point to what the Admin said the other. We should talk about the subject, not the posters. And here I go addressing you and Gracie directly (I probably shouldn't but you both have good points.) The Katie Belle discussion has been pretty frank and strong. But nearly all the posts are, "I hate the place", or "I love the place". I think these are fine. It's when the posts are personal people get a bit put off, and rightly so in my opinion. "Good more for me" and even "Boy howdy" when you don't know how it's meant could be off putting.

Again, I know I've been talking about this for awhile now. But I would like to tell you all, I continue to get frequent PMs from people saying either they never post or they used to post and stopped because of the rude comments. It's all well and good to say to lighten up, and I agree. But when comments seemed to be personal, most people are not going to take those well.

I know I seem to be going crazy with the "play nice" statements. I do want to point out these are not always my first reaction. There are occassional times here that I really want to get in people's faces and tell them what jerks they are being. I just try to listen to my better angels and resist doing so.

OK, feel free to tell me to shut the hell up.

[graciegirl]

I seem to be talking a lot about civility lately, and if you're sick of hearing it from me, I do apologize.

Gracie, as I've said many times, I respect you greatly and do understand how much you love this place. Boy Howdy, is a pretty darn mild response. But I would point out this thread is "Katie Belles-Yuk". That really invites other negatives by it's very name. So it's not like the poster was going out of their way to be negative, just piling on. I guess I see that a bit different than a first post that is negative out of the clear blue.

Jim, I would point to what the Admin said the other. We should talk about the subject, not the posters. And here I go addressing you and Gracie directly (I probably shouldn't but you both have good points.) The Katie Belle discussion has been pretty frank and strong. But nearly all the posts are, "I hate the place", or "I love the place". I think these are fine. It's when the posts are personal people get a bit put off, and rightly so in my opinion. "Good more for me" and even "Boy howdy" when you don't know how it's meant could be off putting.

Again, I know I've been talking about this for awhile now. But I would like to tell you all, I continue to get frequent PMs from people saying either they never post or they used to post and stopped because of the rude comments. It's all well and good to say to lighten up, and I agree. But when comments seemed to be personal, most people are not going to take those well.

I know I seem to be going crazy with the "play nice" statements. I do want to point out these are not always my first reaction. There are occassional times here that I really want to get in people's faces and tell them what jerks they are being. I just try to listen to my better angels and resist doing so.



OK, feel free to tell me to shut the hell up.


you are right. I have taken what you said to heart and will try to do better.

boy howdy. ;)

[OldDave]

Gracie, boy howdy, I sure do love you! Hope your sweetie gets home safely.

[mickey100]

I seem to be talking a lot about civility lately, and if you're sick of hearing it from me, I do apologize.

Gracie, as I've said many times, I respect you greatly and do understand how much you love this place. Boy Howdy, is a pretty darn mild response. But I would point out this thread is "Katie Belles-Yuk". That really invites other negatives by it's very name. So it's not like the poster was going out of their way to be negative, just piling on. I guess I see that a bit different than a first post that is negative out of the clear blue.

Jim, I would point to what the Admin said the other. We should talk about the subject, not the posters. And here I go addressing you and Gracie directly (I probably shouldn't but you both have good points.) The Katie Belle discussion has been pretty frank and strong. But nearly all the posts are, "I hate the place", or "I love the place". I think these are fine. It's when the posts are personal people get a bit put off, and rightly so in my opinion. "Good more for me" and even "Boy howdy" when you don't know how it's meant could be off putting.

Again, I know I've been talking about this for awhile now. But I would like to tell you all, I continue to get frequent PMs from people saying either they never post or they used to post and stopped because of the rude comments. It's all well and good to say to lighten up, and I agree. But when comments seemed to be personal, most people are not going to take those well.

I know I seem to be going crazy with the "play nice" statements. I do want to point out these are not always my first reaction. There are occassional times here that I really want to get in people's faces and tell them what jerks they are being. I just try to listen to my better angels and resist doing so.

OK, feel free to tell me to shut the hell up.

Well said.

[2BNTV]

I seem to be talking a lot about civility lately, and if you're sick of hearing it from me, I do apologize.

Gracie, as I've said many times, I respect you greatly and do understand how much you love this place. Boy Howdy, is a pretty darn mild response. But I would point out this thread is "Katie Belles-Yuk". That really invites other negatives by it's very name. So it's not like the poster was going out of their way to be negative, just piling on. I guess I see that a bit different than a first post that is negative out of the clear blue.

Jim, I would point to what the Admin said the other. We should talk about the subject, not the posters. And here I go addressing you and Gracie directly (I probably shouldn't but you both have good points.) The Katie Belle discussion has been pretty frank and strong. But nearly all the posts are, "I hate the place", or "I love the place". I think these are fine. It's when the posts are personal people get a bit put off, and rightly so in my opinion. "Good more for me" and even "Boy howdy" when you don't know how it's meant could be off putting.

Again, I know I've been talking about this for awhile now. But I would like to tell you all, I continue to get frequent PMs from people saying either they never post or they used to post and stopped because of the rude comments. It's all well and good to say to lighten up, and I agree. But when comments seemed to be personal, most people are not going to take those well.

I know I seem to be going crazy with the "play nice" statements. I do want to point out these are not always my first reaction. There are occassional times here that I really want to get in people's faces and tell them what jerks they are being. I just try to listen to my better angels and resist doing so.

OK, feel free to tell me to shut the hell up.

:agree:

I find it's easier on me to err on the side of angels. :smiley:

[ugotme]

I think I like the Brooklyn way better -

ARE YOU _ _ _ KIDDING ME ????

Sorry - only trying to lighten the mood.

FUGEDABOUDIT !!!!

[janmcn]

We totally agree, Katie Belles food is terrible, the accoustics are bad and they really don't have any accomodations for the handicap! What kind of representation is this for a wonderful, active retirement community? Wake up people, you are not doing the right thing.

Hopefully there is a brand new nightclub-style restaurant on the drawing board for the Brownwood area...one that has state of the art accoustics, five-star dining, top-drawer entertainment, and accomodations for the handicap (which btw is federally mandated)...then newer residents won't have to travel so far to visit this heirloom.

This would be a good thing to talk to Mark Morse about when he presents his road show this spring.

[Bogie Shooter]

Hopefully there is a brand new nightclub-style restaurant on the drawing board for the Brownwood area...one that has state of the art accoustics, five-star dining, top-drawer entertainment, and accomodations for the handicap (which btw is federally mandated)...then newer residents won't have to travel so far to visit this heirloom.

This would be a good thing to talk to Mark Morse about when he presents his road show this spring.

Good Luck!

[Golfingnut]

Some folks try to bring sunshine into a dark world and others maybe because they are not doing so well themselves try to turn a smile into a frown. When I am sick or having pain, my wife says I am a grump, and maybe that is what helps me keep it at home and not to spread my own troubles to those trying to shed a little happiness. You should see my wife's eyes when someone asks her if I am always so funny and happy at home. Then we just smile at each other when she says sure he is.

[Madelaine Amee]

Hopefully there is a brand new nightclub-style restaurant on the drawing board for the Brownwood area...one that has state of the art accoustics, five-star dining, top-drawer entertainment, and accomodations for the handicap (which btw is federally mandated)...then newer residents won't have to travel so far to visit this heirloom.

This would be a good thing to talk to Mark Morse about when he presents his road show this spring.

Don't hold your breath waiting for that to happen!

And, while I am on the subject, we have always enjoyed K-Belles. It has great ambience, music is good, entertainment is acceptable. The food in the Cattle Baron Restaurant used to be excellent, have not been there for about a year so don't know what it is like now. It is very difficult to get tickets for their special shows, so it cannot be all bad!

[rhondac]

My hub and I have been going to KBs for 8 years and we absolutely love it. Sure some of the food is average, but we have never had a meal that we could not stand, never....Tonights band plays :bigbow: The Beatles, The Who, Pink Floyd, etc.....yes, they are loud and not for everyone, but a great, talented band in my opinion. To each his own!!...... :mmmm: and the Salmon special tonight, with a bit of lobster and fresh veggies over angel hair pasta, is DELICIOUS!! We love the reubin, fish sandwich, burgers, stuffed mahi mahi, prime rib, and many other items.....going to eat well AND rock and roll tonight!!!

[Bonny]

Well Said !! :agree: