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Heartnsoul
02-07-2013, 08:17 AM
Gas up again 10 cents more. How can young couples AFFord to even go to work?? when does the madness stop?

Bogie Shooter
02-07-2013, 08:28 AM
Gas up again 10 cents more. How can young couples AFFord to even go to work?? when does the madness stop?

When the oil companies exceed their profit goals.

2BNTV
02-07-2013, 08:49 AM
I wish I knew as they have been overcharging for many years. IMHO

graciegirl
02-07-2013, 08:50 AM
Gas up again 10 cents more. How can young couples AFFord to even go to work?? when does the madness stop?

Some of them will have to start cooking at home?

JoeC1947
02-07-2013, 10:05 AM
Some of them will have to start cooking at home?

Good point. Most young people don't cut corners and don't start saving soon enough.

blueash
02-07-2013, 11:02 AM
Good point. Most young people don't cut corners and don't start saving soon enough.

Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachersOur youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers

or

I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on the frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words.

More on topic, here is the inflation corrected cost of gasoline from 1918 thru 2011. Inflation adjusted Gasoline Price Chart (http://inflationdata.com/Inflation/images/charts/Oil/Gasoline_inflation_chart.htm)
Not really a lot of change. But if you just plot the last five years, up 28% over the CPI increase. However, the average MPG of cars is up 22% in the same period which mostly offsets the cost of driving. Still, for many, the cost of commuting is significant. Tip your servers.

batman911
02-07-2013, 11:49 AM
Gas up again 10 cents more. How can young couples AFFord to even go to work?? when does the madness stop?

When everyone stops running up and down the road all day wasting fuel. Lower consumption equals lower prices.

2BNTV
02-07-2013, 12:00 PM
GasBuddy.com - Find Low Gas Prices in the USA and Canada (http://www.gasbuddy.com) is a site everyone should use as it give you all the prices in your zip code at a glance.

Keep in mind, some gas station charge 10 cents more for using your credit card and a surcharge if you are in one of those states that are affected.

Geewiz
02-07-2013, 12:31 PM
Gas price will continue to rise well above supply costs due to supply/demand. As the world economy improves, countries with less domestic oil resources than the US will drive the price higher. And we subsidize this via our tax code that gives domestic oil producers huge tax breaks no matter where they sell their product. The people of India and China thank you.

OldDave
02-07-2013, 01:44 PM
While I hate it when the price goes up, we are pretty darned lucky compared to the rest of the world. And if fracking doesn't destroy our country, which some think it might, it is going to put a lot of downward pressure on world oil prices. Not that I don't think the big oil companies are satan's spawn, because I do.

To Blueash: I disagree with your sweeping condemnation of today's youth. My two children are two of the politest, kind and generous people I've ever met. I would hasten to say they are much better people that I ever was, being raised by an insane bigot. (My mother, not me) I'm very proud of them and I suspect many others here are of their kids and grandkids too. Sure there are lots of problem youth, but there were when you and I were that age also. And even if it is worse today, it isn't everyone.

I started to write a smartass comment about the need to stand when you walk into the room, but my better angels said no. Plus, I've seen my son do it. Again he's a better person than I am.

2BNTV
02-07-2013, 01:49 PM
I refer to my son as the new and improved version. :smiley:

gustavo
02-07-2013, 07:12 PM
Gas up again 10 cents more. How can young couples AFFord to even go to work?? when does the madness stop?

You can always buy unleaded gas futures and lock in your gas prices if you're that concerned.

gustavo
02-07-2013, 07:14 PM
Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachersOur youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers

or

I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on the frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words.

More on topic, here is the inflation corrected cost of gasoline from 1918 thru 2011. Inflation adjusted Gasoline Price Chart (http://inflationdata.com/Inflation/images/charts/Oil/Gasoline_inflation_chart.htm)
Not really a lot of change. But if you just plot the last five years, up 28% over the CPI increase. However, the average MPG of cars is up 22% in the same period which mostly offsets the cost of driving. Still, for many, the cost of commuting is significant. Tip your servers.

You sound like your parents when they were describing your generation.

DougB
02-07-2013, 09:35 PM
Anyone know why gas in St. Cloud consistently runs about 20 cents a gallon cheaper?

blueash
02-07-2013, 09:38 PM
You sound like your parents when they were describing your generation.

Not my parents. ancient Greeks

blueash
02-07-2013, 09:41 PM
To Blueash: I disagree with your sweeping condemnation of today's youth. My two children are two of the politest, kind and generous people I've ever met. I would hasten to say they are much better people that I ever was, being raised by an insane bigot. (My mother, not me) I'm very proud of them and I suspect many others here are of their kids and grandkids too. Sure there are lots of problem youth, but there were when you and I were that age also. And even if it is worse today, it isn't everyone.

I started to write a smartass comment about the need to stand when you walk into the room, but my better angels said no. Plus, I've seen my son do it. Again he's a better person than I am.

Those are not my words, they are those of ancient Greeks about the youth of 2500 years ago. Just pointing out that complaints about lazy kids is nothing new.

George Bieniaszek
02-07-2013, 10:49 PM
If you can't beat them, join them!!!

Guess we all have to buy stock in Exxon/Mobil :)

OldDave
02-07-2013, 11:02 PM
Problem is no one said anything about lazy kids, other than you. The only other comment was that kids don't start cutting corners and saving early enough. I think that is a comment about not being able to see the future at a young age.

LndLocked
02-07-2013, 11:34 PM
Gas price will continue to rise well above supply costs due to supply/demand. As the world economy improves, countries with less domestic oil resources than the US will drive the price higher. And we subsidize this via our tax code that gives domestic oil producers huge tax breaks no matter where they sell their product. The people of India and China thank you.


While the long term price of fuel will rise on overall global demand, these current spikes in price we see have little to nothing to do with demand. If fact, current US consumption is lower now than 4-5 years ago and global demand is been pretty much a flat line over the same time period.

Speculation, emotion and "because they can" are the reason that gas rises at the pump .25 in two weeks.

Bavarian
02-08-2013, 01:22 PM
The profit tothe oil companies is much less than the Federal and State taxes on the fuel. And the oil companies have to do the work of finding the oil, extracting it, refining it, transporting it to market. As was said, the price is not bad adjusted for inflation.

And if you think it is bad here, go to Germany, close to an Euro/liter.

2BNTV
02-08-2013, 03:22 PM
While the long term price of fuel will rise on overall global demand, these current spikes in price we see have little to nothing to do with demand. If fact, current US consumption is lower now than 4-5 years ago and global demand is been pretty much a flat line over the same time period.

Speculation, emotion and "because they can" are the reason that gas rises at the pump .25 in two weeks.

:agree: I really think they have you by the cross hairs and can get away with anything attitude.

I don't like the price of gasoline but I don't have an alternative. It's pay the price or push your car. :smiley:

paulandjean
02-08-2013, 03:32 PM
Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachersOur youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers

or

I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on the frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words.

More on topic, here is the inflation corrected cost of gasoline from 1918 thru 2011. Inflation adjusted Gasoline Price Chart (http://inflationdata.com/Inflation/images/charts/Oil/Gasoline_inflation_chart.htm)
Not really a lot of change. But if you just plot the last five years, up 28% over the CPI increase. However, the average MPG of cars is up 22% in the same period which mostly offsets the cost of driving. Still, for many, the cost of commuting is significant. Tip your servers.

Think the first part on youth was published in 1967.

graciegirl
02-08-2013, 04:53 PM
Think the first part on youth was published in 1967.

Actually the quote is attributed to Socrates, a few years before that.

Quote by Socrates: Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manner... (http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/63219-our-youth-now-love-luxury-they-have-bad-manners-contempt)