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senior citizen
11-02-2013, 08:14 AM
I hope this won't be perceived as "illegal" to comment on.

My husband thought that he heard that our country farmed out the job of creating the new health insurance website to computer techies in Canada, our great neighbor to the north of Vermont. Beautiful country; great folks.

If true, just wondering, why we didn't give the task to the huge amount of unemployed computer techs in the U.S.?

Perhaps he misunderstood or misheard that news?

njbchbum
11-02-2013, 08:49 AM
what's more - 'Michelle Obama's Princeton classmate is top executive at firm that that built disastrous Obamacare website after being awarded no-bid $93m contract' []Michelle O's Princeton classmate is exec at company that built Obamacare website | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2477403/Michelle-Os-Princeton-classmate-exec-company-built-Obamacare-website.html)

and then - it might be due to the cozy relationship with valerie jarrett's dgtr and cgi [http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-obama-care/102813-676947-jarrett-balkissoon-wedding-influenced-cgi-selection.htm]

and now - a campaign bundler's company has been hired to 'fix' the website! [and this company is a subsidiary of united health group!!!!!!!!]

it might be that none of these articles/this information have/has anything to do with obamacare - but then - just maybe they do! who's to tell?

blueash
11-02-2013, 08:50 AM
Meet CGI Federal, the company behind the botched launch of HealthCare.gov (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/16/meet-cgi-federal-the-company-behind-the-botched-launch-of-healthcare-gov/)

TicoTexan
11-02-2013, 08:52 AM
The parent company - CGI -is Canadian.

In 2010, CGI purchased Stanley, Inc., which, the company notes, “nearly doubled the size of CGI’s U.S. operations.” In addition, the company continues, “the combination of talent and capabilities created further opportunity for growth in the key U.S. federal market.” By purchasing an American company, this Canadian firm began federal government contracting in a big way at the right time.

senior citizen
11-02-2013, 09:12 AM
what's more - 'Michelle Obama's Princeton classmate is top executive at firm that that built disastrous Obamacare website after being awarded no-bid $93m contract' []Michelle O's Princeton classmate is exec at company that built Obamacare website | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2477403/Michelle-Os-Princeton-classmate-exec-company-built-Obamacare-website.html)

and then - it might be due to the cozy relationship with valerie jarrett's dgtr and cgi [http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-obama-care/102813-676947-jarrett-balkissoon-wedding-influenced-cgi-selection.htm]

and now - a campaign bundler's company has been hired to 'fix' the website! [and this company is a subsidiary of united health group!!!!!!!!]

it might be that none of these articles/this information have/has anything to do with obamacare - but then - just maybe they do! who's to tell?

You are definitely braver than I am.
Can we mention the name of our president?

senior citizen
11-02-2013, 09:14 AM
The parent company - CGI -is Canadian.

In 2010, CGI purchased Stanley, Inc., which, the company notes, “nearly doubled the size of CGI’s U.S. operations.” In addition, the company continues, “the combination of talent and capabilities created further opportunity for growth in the key U.S. federal market.” By purchasing an American company, this Canadian firm began federal government contracting in a big way at the right time.


Appreciate that. I'll pass on the information to hubby. Thank you.

senior citizen
11-02-2013, 09:41 AM
Meet CGI Federal, the company behind the botched launch of HealthCare.gov (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/16/meet-cgi-federal-the-company-behind-the-botched-launch-of-healthcare-gov/)

Thank you for this very very long article from the Washington Post.
I just read it to my husband...........it's mind boggling.

We both really appreciate this information......

Everyone should read it. I printed it out and also sent the link to our kids.

Hubby had only heard a "soundbite" , never realizing the full extent of all of these contracts.......thanks again.

senior citizen
11-02-2013, 09:43 AM
p.s.
He said for the massive amount of money they were paid, it should have been flawless.

ilovetv
11-02-2013, 10:28 AM
Does anyone else think about how much private insurance could have been bought outright for the uninsured people across the country for about $5,000/year each, with what has already been spent on this patchwork, hobbling with wheels-falling-off, reject monstrosity of a system?

Bogie Shooter
11-02-2013, 10:32 AM
Fox News...........fair and balanced.:D

jflynn1
11-02-2013, 12:37 PM
Does anyone else think about how much private insurance could have been bought outright for the uninsured people across the country for about $5,000/year each, with what has already been spent on this patchwork, hobbling with wheels-falling-off, reject monstrosity of a system?

Not much...

CFrance
11-02-2013, 12:42 PM
[QUOTE=Bogie Shooter;772829]Fox News...........fair and balanced.:D[/QUOTE

:clap2:

Bizdoc
11-02-2013, 04:00 PM
Realize that the large government contractors *all* have significant ties with both political parties. Booze Allen did billions of dollars of business during the Bush years as well as working on ObamaCare. (Included *billions* wasted and unreported on the FAA's "off the shelf" accounting system that was supposed to save taxpayer's money compared to one custom built).

The steady hollowing out of the federal government and movement from projects being done in house goes back to the Grace Commission and Reagan. As the result, everything is contracted out. The FAA, for example, has 2-3 times as many contractors as employees at FAA HQ.

If the public had any idea of the money wasted by all of the previous presidents during the past 40 years (and trust me, there is plenty of blame to go around to *all* of them) and to all of the members of Congress (both parties) who earmarkand direct projects to their favorite companies, there would be a multi-million taxpayer march to burn them all at the stake.

And before you get huffy about CGI, no foreign companies were supposed to be able to buy North Slope Oil. Before construction had even begun, BP bought out Sohio so that they could participate. No one said a word and foreign companies basically own and run that pipeline. Been happening for years.

CFrance
11-02-2013, 05:06 PM
Realize that the large government contractors *all* have significant ties with both political parties. Booze Allen did billions of dollars of business during the Bush years as well as working on ObamaCare. (Included *billions* wasted and unreported on the FAA's "off the shelf" accounting system that was supposed to save taxpayer's money compared to one custom built).

The steady hollowing out of the federal government and movement from projects being done in house goes back to the Grace Commission and Reagan. As the result, everything is contracted out. The FAA, for example, has 2-3 times as many contractors as employees at FAA HQ.

If the public had any idea of the money wasted by all of the previous presidents during the past 40 years (and trust me, there is plenty of blame to go around to *all* of them) and to all of the members of Congress (both parties) who earmarkand direct projects to their favorite companies, there would be a multi-million taxpayer march to burn them all at the stake.

And before you get huffy about CGI, no foreign companies were supposed to be able to buy North Slope Oil. Before construction had even begun, BP bought out Sohio so that they could participate. No one said a word and foreign companies basically own and run that pipeline. Been happening for years.

Thank you for that. They're all at fault. It's a big game, and we small citizens are on the sidelines.

Bucco
11-02-2013, 05:24 PM
p.s.
He said for the massive amount of money they were paid, it should have been flawless.

Lots that we cannot discuss once the IRS becomes involved. Buckle up

Bizdoc
11-02-2013, 07:55 PM
Lots that we cannot discuss once the IRS becomes involved. Buckle up

Why? The vast majority of the folks who work at IRS are honest, hard working Americans who do a job that few would want (collect taxes). Unless you are committing a crime (in which a special part of the IRS call Criminal Investigation will find you), they do what has to be done to enforce the tax laws even when faced with unwarranted insults.

Don't blame the IRS for the mess that is the Tax Code. Congress passed the laws and passes thousands of special provisions. Rather than fess up to the reality of the mess they created, they blame the folks at the IRS. Shame on Congress!

Know all of the credits that politicians like to criticize? Last spring, Congress could only manage to find something like *2* out of hundreds to actually get rid of.

Moderator
11-02-2013, 08:01 PM
The original topic was contracting development of the healthcare.gov website to a Canadian company.

Many posts have strayed into other topics and veered towards politics.

Please return to the original topic.

ilovetv
11-02-2013, 08:28 PM
To me and many others here, it's not the problem of a Canadian or other foreign company, so much as it is the cronyism in Washington.

kbace6
11-02-2013, 09:07 PM
Fox News...........fair and balanced.:D

:confused:

I don't get it? Is this an inside joke?

Warren Kiefer
11-02-2013, 09:22 PM
Fox News...........fair and balanced.:D

I just love a good joke !!!
:BigApplause:

wendyquat
11-02-2013, 10:01 PM
There's 314 million people in America and the federal government has spent $394 million thus far on ACA? Why didn't they just give each of us a million and we could pay for our own healthcare!:MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

CFrance
11-02-2013, 10:04 PM
There's 314 million people in America and the federal government has spent $394 million thus far on ACA? Why didn't they just give each of us a million and we could pay for our own healthcare!:MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

Great point!!!!!!!!!

senior citizen
11-02-2013, 10:27 PM
There's 314 million people in America and the federal government has spent $394 million thus far on ACA? Why didn't they just give each of us a million and we could pay for our own healthcare!:MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:


Great minds think alike. That's similar to what my husband said after I read the article to him.....instead of paying for that website, they could have given everyone of us the same health plan that Congress has....

Both of us, having been self employed prior to retirement two years ago, know the high cost of paying Blue Cross/Blue Shield, esp. when we were raising the children.

notlongnow
11-02-2013, 10:36 PM
I agree with your point but the math does not add up. 314 million people x $1000000 =
That would be $314000000000000 quadrillion dollars

wendyquat
11-02-2013, 11:04 PM
I agree with your point but the math does not add up. 314 million people x $1000000 =
That would be $314000000000000 quadrillion dollars

Nah, never good at math! Sounded good anyway! :1rotfl:

graciegirl
11-03-2013, 04:55 AM
Fox News...........fair and balanced.:D


NONE of the major network news are really fair and balanced.. They ALL have a political agenda and none of them coincide with mine which of course I think is fair and balanced.

Is no one a moderate? I am not an independent, but I do grow more conservative every day...just not sitting WAY over there on the right end. and not sitting way over on the left end either.

This way no one likes me and no one agrees with me.

Sweetie does. And Helene.

mulligan
11-03-2013, 06:16 AM
Gracie, we're 99% in agreement 100% of the time (except the adult beverage part).