Everybody seems to love The Villages, I would like to hear what you hate beside

[diskman]

We keep hearing from the village lovers(people who are happy with their choice. Other than Jan and the people dealing with the train noise (Chatham) Are there any other villages we should stay away from and why? :dontknow:
Larry & Bev!

[mejahu]

I am wondering if anyone will answer this one since it's probably considered a "negative" and politically incorrect. If anyone really hated something, they' have likely left. Several people to post with a "tell it like it is attitude" and I think that's important. Those considering purchase need to make an informed decision.

[Talk Host]

I am wondering if anyone will answer this one since it's probably considered a "negative" and politically incorrect. If anyone really hated something, they' have likely left. Several people to post with a "tell it like it is attitude" and I think that's important. Those considering purchase need to make an informed decision.


We encourage people to be honest here. Honesty is not negativity. Although some people think it is. "Hate" is a strong word. It has been made even stronger since "hate" is now a federal crime when it comes to actions against people.

[LG]

::) JUST .... the newer the home the higher the BOND... All neighborhoods are laid out the same. You may find a younger group in the newer homes, but that is not a guarantee....

GREAT PLACE, GREAT CONCEPT..... JUST ENJOY

[Barefoot]

List prices can be very deceiving. Some purchasers pay off their bond immediately. Other houses have fairly large bonds. We bought a four-year old house with bond paid. Other houses on the same street have a $6000 bond.

[The Great Fumar]

DISKMAN
I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU GOT THE IDEA TO AVOID CHATHAM. TO DO SO YOU ARE MISSING PROBABLY THE MOST BEAUTIFUL NIEGHBORHOOD IN THE VILLAGES..THE HOMES HERE BY AMBERWOOD GOLF COURSE ARE GEORGEOUS ,THE NEIGHBORS ARE WONDERFUL, I LIVED IN ANOTHER VILLAGE FOR TWO YEARS THEN MOVED HERE FOR ANOTHER TWO YEARS AND NOW I WOULDN'T LIVE ANYWHERE ELSE..AFTER A MONTH YOU DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THE TRAINS..HAVING SAID THAT , I WILL ADMIT THAT I'M A LITTLE HARD OF HEARING .... ;D

THE ONLY DOWNSIDE IS IF YOU ARE A LOW HANDICAP GOLFER YOU WOULDN'T LIKE IT HERE, THESE PEOPLE IN CHATHAM ARE LOUSY GOLFERS. ;D

[jjdees]

Sounds like my kind of village. The Golfers that is.

[Villages Kahuna]

...because there's so darn few things I don't like about TV. Actually, there really aren't even a "few things". My wife and I like TV a whole lot more than we thought we ever would. We love our house, our neighbors, the lifestyle...basically, everything!

I feel bad posting what seems to be such a dumb answer to the question. But once you select your house, thereby getting past maybe the only negative thing about TV...lack of privacy caused by proximity to other houses, that's about it. If you're careful in choosing a house, even privacy won't be an issue.

Like our sales rep told us...sure there are grumps and grouches that move into TV. But they don't last long because they have such a hard time finding other grumpy people to associate with. They move out. Life is too short.

[LindaManson]

:agree: :agree: Villages Kahuna got it right. The only really negative things I have heard about the Villages is from people who don't live here, or did and moved! Like any area there are pros and cons. If you dwell on the cons, then the pros get overlooked. We have had a couple of issues that have been addressed and taken care of. I cannot imagine living anywhere else!!!

Like I have said before.....Someone has to live in Paradise and it might as well be us!

[diskman]

:agree: :agree: Villages Kahuna got it right. The only really negative things I have heard about the Villages is from people who don't live here, or did and moved! Like any area there are pros and cons. If you dwell on the cons, then the pros get overlooked. We have had a couple of issues that have been addressed and taken care of. I cannot imagine living anywhere else!!!

Like I have said before.....Someone has to live in Paradise and it might as well be us!

:) :) :) :)Thank you all for voicing an opinion, hopefully now my wife will accept that I have found paradise!!! :bigthumbsup: Larry

[darbyduff]

I love you guys...

I just posted the only negative post I have ever put on this site but someone wrote something negative about TV. He wanted to have his bass boat in the driveway, "tasteful art" in his yard and a fence around his property and is rethinking his wanting to move here because how dare TV not allow any of that. Anyway...got my dander up and I posted a negative comment! Then I came in here and read Kahunas post and now everything is back to being right with my world!!

[golfnut]

Sorry, can't think of anything I don't like, I'll have to think about it and get back to you.

[Frank2]

I've lived here for seven years and can tell you, if you're not happy here you'll be disappointed in heaven.

[Taltarzac]

Sounds like my kind of village. The Golfers that is.


I do not play golf; but if I did, I think my initial tries would approximate my high scores in Yahtzee. My highest score now in Yahtzee in my very questionable computer Yahtzee game is 522 :super:. Just think, I could set a whole new record on each Village golf course! :hot:

[dadspet]

;D Well heres a BIG one! In many of the newer areas the corner street signs have the intersecting streets on the same level (vs one up higher than the other) so its almost impossible to see the name of the intersecting street as you approach the sign.

Also sure wish there were Jacuzzis at the pools (besides the ones you had to have a membership in).

I sure don't think either if these would come close to the hate word (more like room for improvement) but if anyone from TV is listening I've heard from a good source that neither of these are a problem in heaven, so this will give you something to shoot for!

[Barefoot]

I've lived here for seven years and can tell you, if you're not happy here you'll be disappointed in heaven.


Frank2, What a great comment! ;D It is reassuring to hear that you've been there seven years and are still loving it.

I do NOT think TOTV is a negative site. But I've been reading about noise, trains, traffic jams, loud music from the town centers, grouchy neighbours, frogs in toilets, errant balls on golf course lots, noisy gas golf carts, mowing golf courses in early morning, ... and unbelievably, some people who feel dogs shouldn't go out in public! :dontknow: I was telling my husband over dinner that I've been getting a bit worried as we are starting our first occupancy in October. We have two dogs and bought Courtyard Villa in May (on a golf course).

We made up our mind in 5 days that we loved TV and bought a Villa. Now, having read all these great posts, I am reassured that we did the right thing. I can HARDLY WAIT until we get there in October!! :bigthumbsup: :bigthumbsup: :bigthumbsup:

[Frank2]

Barefoot. Thank you for the nice compliment. I hope you, too, will develop a lasting appreciation for an active life in the Villages.
Frank2, What a great comment! ;D It is reassuring to hear that you've been there seven years and are still loving it.

I do NOT think TOTV is a negative site. But I've been reading about noise, trains, traffic jams, loud music from the town centers, grouchy neighbours, frogs in toilets, errant balls on golf course lots, noisy gas golf carts, mowing golf courses in early morning, ... and unbelievably, some people who feel dogs shouldn't go out in public! :dontknow: I was telling my husband over dinner that I've been getting a bit worried as we are starting our first occupancy in October. We have two dogs and bought Courtyard Villa in May (on a golf course).

We made up our mind in 5 days that we loved TV and bought a Villa. Now, having read all these great posts, I am reassured that we did the right thing. I can HARDLY WAIT until we get there in October!! :bigthumbsup: :bigthumbsup: :bigthumbsup:

[darbyduff]

Hey Barefoot -

We will just be settling into TV in October!!!! We think a Villa south of Lake Sumpter.

I know Canada quite well- I'm from Northern Minnesota and canoed the Boundary Waters in Ely.

Love the smell of the pines, wood burning fireplaces (but not in TV), camping, picking blueberries and fighting off the bears. etc. Our cabin was almost to International Falls Canada. But, like you, as pleasant as that was, we are moving to Paradise!! Maybe we'll see you down there. We will be walking our Westie and Carin Terriers around the square some nights. (Emphasis on SOME) for those who have a problem with our 4 legged friends.

[golfnut]

I think the number of people who have issues with dogs are few, then again our Airedale does weigh 90 lbs, maybe they're afraid to say something.

[darbyduff]

Hey Golfnut-

I'd like to hire your dog as a guard and security dog when I take our little ones down to the square's!!! :joke:

[golfnut]

darby, No problem she's a real sweetheart, only problem is she doesn't realize she weighs 90 lbs if you know what I mean. You can check out Aerial in the pet discussion section under how about posting a picture.....

[Barefoot]

Darby, we are in a C. villa south of 466, that is where we wanted to live. Maybe we'll be neighbours, I hope so. One of my first activities when I arrive in October will be to take Brutus and Biggins to a dog park .. wonder if you can golf cart to DoggieDoRun .. probably not, I think it is a "regular" road outside of TV.

Then we'll be heading over to the Square for Happy Hour and some dancing. We have to buy a complete houseful of furniture. At least you're able to bring some stuff, we're coming over the Border so we have to start from scratch. Lots of work ahead. But we want to leave plenty of time for fun and socializing.

Golfnut, I've seen the picture of Aerial .. what a great looking dog.

[golfnut]

thanks barefoot, I'm sure you'll enjoy getting things set up, take your time eh, what's the rush, we're just across the border from you in southeast michigan, we have friends in Belmont Villas.

[Barefoot]

Golfnut: How exciting, our Villa is in Belmont Villas!! It would be so nice to know someone there.

[darbyduff]

Barefoot - I'd post my dog's pictures but your dogs would be jealous!!! (I am soooo just kidding)

Can't wait to meet all of you when we are all there together...... Won't that be fun!!????? :bigthumbsup:

Check my post about Minnesota vs Canada Barefoot. We have lot's in common!!!!! :bigthumbsup:

[villagerjudy]

And the best "negative" about the villages is one I heard at the square listening to Rockey and the Rollers......"and to think the government actually pays us to be here......". People who "hate" the Villages actually must hate life.....OH STOP!!!! I have been accused of having Pom Poms attached to my wrists for being such an Villager lover.

[Taltarzac]

Darby, we are in a C. villa south of 466, that is where we wanted to live. Maybe we'll be neighbours, I hope so. One of my first activities when I arrive in October will be to take Brutus and Biggins to a dog park .. wonder if you can golf cart to DoggieDoRun .. probably not, I think it is a "regular" road outside of TV.

Then we'll be heading over to the Square for Happy Hour and some dancing. We have to buy a complete houseful of furniture. At least you're able to bring some stuff, we're coming over the Border so we have to start from scratch. Lots of work ahead. But we want to leave plenty of time for fun and socializing.

Golfnut, I've seen the picture of Aerial .. what a great looking dog.


No, you are not supposed to golf cart to Doggie Doo Run Run. There are no golf cart paths that go to Doggie Doo Run Run even if it borders a golf course on one side for a bit as well as at the back. With many of the dogs, you sure can tell that they are in the car or truck as they come near the entrance to the Doggie Doo Run Run. There's quite a lot of barking going on.

[peepop]

There is only one thing that I "hate" about The Villages and that is all the whiners. This is as close to paradise as I have found and I am in myh 28th house. Enjoy the life style. The issues can be correct with patience.

Peepop

[Nursee]

The only thing I miss here is the great shopping I have always had living in major cities.

On the other hand, I consider TV "paradise" so I guess paradise isn't meant to have great malls.

Mary Ann

[MSNPA]

I so agree with the last post. This area has a lot more stores and restaurants then when we first visited in 2005. I do however miss large malls that have good quality department stores (Macys, Norstroms, Dillards). I wonder if a mall will ever be bulit in this area. While the plazas are nice they are bascially all the same. While I am at it I also wish TV had a sushi bar and a good bakery.

[Lil Dancer]

We were very disappointed in the condition of some of the championship golf courses last year. In particular, Cane Garden and Mallory were just awful. We didn't play them too much, went over to Glenfield and Tierra del Sol. But our house is near Mallory, so we hope things are going to be better this season, its so convenient.

[Taltarzac]

I so agree with the last post. This area has a lot more stores and restaurants then when we first visited in 2005. I do however miss large malls that have good quality department stores (Macys, Norstroms, Dillards). I wonder if a mall will ever be bulit in this area. While the plazas are nice they are bascially all the same. While I am at it I also wish TV had a sushi bar and a good bakery.


You can always go to Paddock Mall for Macy's. That's not too far away. http://www.macys.com/store/locator/index.ognc?action=locatorSearch&City=ENTER+CITY&State=NOSELECTION&ZipCode=32162 Dillards looks further http://kivera.dillards.com/select.jsp?place=32162 and Nordstrums maybe further? http://about.nordstrom.com/MapPoint/PrxResults.aspx?&LOC=28.9441936080201%3a-81.9961955897605&CT=28.9441936080201%3a-81.9961955897605%3a12.4688485908958%3a9.3516364431 7188&DSN=MapPoint.NA&GAD2=&GCITY=&GSTATE=&GZIP=32162&GAD3=+32162&GAD4=&IC=28.9441936080201%3a-81.9961955897605%3a32%3a+32162&DBR=75&FC=Nordstrom%2cSpa%2cRack%2cFaconnable

[Barefoot]

No, you are not supposed to golf cart to Doggie Doo Run Run. There are no golf cart paths that go to Doggie Doo Run Run even if it borders a golf course on one side for a bit as well as at the back. With many of the dogs, you sure can tell that they are in the car or truck as they come near the entrance to the Doggie Doo Run Run. There's quite a lot of barking going on.


Taltarzac .. Thanks for the info .. do you know if there are any Dog Parks within the Villages boundaries?

[butterfly sue]

Paradise it is. We did our homework and moved here. We have visited FL for over 30 yrs and traveled the state, but the hurricane thing bugged us. What better place than here where we are centrally located. Even a weatherman moved here!

Next we did have a friend in Belleview who picked his area and we kept going by THE BRIDGE wondering what was that? Finally we were getting closer to retiring and stopped in. We visited for 3 years and at different times of the year to experience different times of weather.

Then we did spend 2 weeks in AZ looking there. Now how to make up ones mind. Well, we compared Dell Webb there to here and found it to be $100,000 more. BUT the biggest thing here is the golf carts and all the clubs and activities. That is something we have NOT found anywhere else.

The only thing I can suggest is to be careful hiring contractors. If it doesn't seem right, then don't hire them no matter the price. The Villages will tell you who did the work on your house and if you like that, then get a bid from them.

Weather - well, yes it is HOT during summer. What better time to travel to a cooler location. Also, being from Wisconsin, the nine months of ice and snow was more than gladly swapped for the summer here.

So, do your research and don't rush!

[Casual Carol]

Just got back from three weeks in the villages. Moving van is coming on September 17. YEAH!!!! Tried my darndest to find something BAD about TV. I don't want to leave my kids! But we love the villages!!!!!! We will be living in Largo. I want to thank everybody for all the positive info about TV. It has reinforced our decision.

[rballruss]

Wonder what the responses would be like if someone posted "Tell me why you love living in The Villages?" I guess I just tend to be a person who is always looking at the positives. Hey...just call me naive. (sp). But I do agree with Dadspet....since I do a lot of travelling around TV (can't say why), the newer sections have intersecting street signs that are on the same level. Example: O'dell Circle and Stillwater. You actually have to slow to nearly a stop before being able to read the neame of the street (Stillwater) when coming up O'dell Circle. This just seems to be unsafe and a design flaw.

Now saying that....there is my negative. But I will go on by relating what I say to my wife every morning when I wake up..."Honey, pinch me!" This lifestyle I'm living has to be a dream. If anyone has found a better place to spend their retirement years...please email me. I'd love to hear about it.

Russ

[diskman]

Wonder what the responses would be like if someone posted "Tell me why you love living in The Villages?" I guess I just tend to be a person who is always looking at the positives. Hey...just call me naive. (sp). But I do agree with Dadspet....since I do a lot of travelling around TV (can't say why), the newer sections have intersecting street signs that are on the same level. Example: O'dell Circle and Stillwater. You actually have to slow to nearly a stop before being able to read the neame of the street (Stillwater) when coming up O'dell Circle. This just seems to be unsafe and a design flaw.

Now saying that....there is my negative. But I will go on by relating what I say to my wife every morning when I wake up..."Honey, pinch me!" This lifestyle I'm living has to be a dream. If anyone has found a better place to spend their retirement years...please email me. I'd love to hear about it.
Russ

Russ, I already knew the answer to this"Tell me why you love living in The Villages?" Thats why I asked the current question. With all the positive statements I wanted to compare the negatives of which, there don't seem to be many. :bigthumbsup: :bigthumbsup:
larry

[ripwho]

I think this forum exchange is going the way of a favorite quote of mine - " A terrible day on the golf course is still better than anyday at the office!".... most appropriate for TV!

[kennyb]

For the most part my wife and I truly love the Villages, but what really upset us are all the inconsiderate and rude Villagers. We moved here about 5 years ago and it seems like back then, the attitude and atmosphere of the Villages was one of happy and carefree lifestyle that as retirees and semi-retired people should have. It is much easier to be friendly and nice to people than it is to be rude and inconsiderate. Just some comments for thought.

[ripwho]

kennyb - I see this is your first post (??) but do respect your opinion as a 5 year 'veteran' of TV!
Can I ask everyone a question - what is the 'year amount' that one needs to be a resident (full or part time) to be considered a 'veteran', long termer or a rookie? what is the average TV residency years??

[Taltarzac]

Taltarzac .. Thanks for the info .. do you know if there are any Dog Parks within the Villages boundaries?


I do not know of any "dog parks" per se within the boundaries of the Villages to which you can legally golf cart. Even though I have heard that people take their dogs to Lake Paradise http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?latlongtype=internal&addtohistory=&latitude=X1uy7BmxLb6Phe%2f27ri09A%3d%3d&longitude=xpc1KW6LO0N2S2K4rMJxJw%3d%3d&name=Chapel%20of%20All%20Faiths&country=US&address=1401%20Paradise%20Dr&city=Lady%20Lake&state=FL&zipcode=32159&phone=352%2d753%2d4144&spurl=0&&q=%28All%29%20Places%20Of%20Worship&qc=%28All%29%20Places%20Of%20Worship to meet and greet. Never actually taken my dog to that Lake as it is quite a distance from here by golf cart anyway but I could do it.

[Barefoot]

Taltarzac: Lake Paradise is now on my list of places to check out. Thanks. When I was on my Preview Visit, I saw lots of people walking dogs on hydro fields .. do you know if this is permitted? I think I need to see a good map of TV showing Parks, etc. Do you know where one can be found online?

[blueeagle65]

The worst thing for me are the people that haven't a clue how to negotiate the traffic circles. They enter on the left (inner circle) because the line of cars is shorter (I presume) then try to exit by cutting across the right (outer) lane thus cutting across and into the traffic trying to continue around the circle. I wish they would close the inner circle and force everyone to go around correctly. Oh yeah, apparently some northeast states don't require the use of turn signals to change lanes or turn because the relocated drivers sure don't use them here.

[Avista]

:agree: I have had so many people come from the left and cross in front of me to exit the circle. What a danger! I'm getting to the point I just expect those on the left to cut me off.

[Taltarzac]

Taltarzac: Lake Paradise is now on my list of places to check out. Thanks. When I was on my Preview Visit, I saw lots of people walking dogs on hydro fields .. do you know if this is permitted? I think I need to see a good map of TV showing Parks, etc. Do you know where one can be found online?


I am not sure what you mean by "hydro fields"? They do not like dogs on their golf courses. I believe it is even illegal to have your dog on the golf course, but I am not sure about that.

The online maps for the Villages leave a lot to be desired mainly probably because of how much the Villages change. The mapmakers cannot keep up! Mapquest http://www.mapquest.com/ sure has a lot of areas that are not filled in as yet.

[Taltarzac]

The worst thing for me are the people that haven't a clue how to negotiate the traffic circles. They enter on the left (inner circle) because the line of cars is shorter (I presume) then try to exit by cutting across the right (outer) lane thus cutting across and into the traffic trying to continue around the circle. I wish they would close the inner circle and force everyone to go around correctly. Oh yeah, apparently some northeast states don't require the use of turn signals to change lanes or turn because the relocated drivers sure don't use them here.


Sure agree about the traffic circles. I start praying when I near them.

[darbyduff]

Hey BUC -

Do you want to know why I can't wait to get down to TV with all the restrictions?

BECAUSE I'M WORTH IT!!!!

(And that should take care of any reference to the color of our hair! :-* )

[Barefoot]

[quote=Taltarzac ]
I am not sure what you mean by "hydro fields"? They do not like dogs on their golf courses. I believe it is even illegal to have your dog on the golf course, but I am not sure about that.

The online maps for the Villages leave a lot to be desired mainly probably because of how much the Villages change. The mapmakers cannot keep up! Mapquest http://www.mapquest.com/ sure has a lot of areas that are not filled in as yet.

Taltarzac, I didn't mean golf courses, I would NEVER NEVER walk my dogs on a golf course, they are sacred! We were driving around during our preview visit in March over by San Marino and noticed hydro fields with a lot of dog walkers. The areas seemed to be unused for anything else; so I was wondering whether it was permitted. Anyway, the hydro fields are quite far away from our Villa, so I'm sure I'll never go there anyway.

One of my pet peeves is dog walkers who don't pick up after their dogs. It ruins it for all the conscientious people.
I always pick up after my dogs and would never take them anywhere they aren't allowed to go.

[Taltarzac]

Taltarzac, I didn't mean golf courses, I would NEVER NEVER walk my dogs on a golf course, they are sacred! We were driving around during our preview visit in March over by San Marino and noticed hydro fields with a lot of dog walkers. The areas seemed to be unused for anything else; so I was wondering whether it was permitted. Anyway, the hydro fields are quite far away from our Villa, so I'm sure I'll never go there anyway.

One of my pet peeves is dog walkers who don't pick up after their dogs. It ruins it for all the conscientious people.
I always pick up after my dogs and would never take them anywhere they aren't allowed to go.



I assume that the "hydro fields" would be OK for dog walkers if you saw a lot as the Villages' administrators are quite diligent about rule enforcement. Just try putting a sign on the front yard-- or perhaps a gnome-- in one of the Village neighborhoods which forbids such things in front yards. From what I have seen, the rule enforcers will show up within the day or so.

Still better safe than sorry. You should probably contact someone in an official capacity in the Villages and double-check this.

[eujaynia]

Oh, I hate something!

hehehe ....

Getting chased off the golf course by a darn thunderstorm!!!

Hmm... that 'bout covers it.

[F16 1UB]

I hate TV because I'm not there. As for the circles, I'ver been going around in circles for years, hair color does make a huge difference to me. There seems to be less and less of it as time goes by and I'm very happy to have what I've got. And lastly..... Hell I forgot what I was gonna say. ;D

Steve

[darbyduff]

Oh Steve, You are a HOOT! Can't wait for both of us to get down there and have an adult beverage together....You ARE old enough aren't you????

[DDoug]

My wife and I lived where houses were alot more than they are here and all I have to say is thank God for deed restrictions. P.S. We didnt have any where we lived before

[KenMac]

The worst thing for me are the people that haven't a clue how to negotiate the traffic circles. They enter on the left (inner circle) because the line of cars is shorter (I presume) then try to exit by cutting across the right (outer) lane thus cutting across and into the traffic trying to continue around the circle. I wish they would close the inner circle and force everyone to go around correctly. Oh yeah, apparently some northeast states don't require the use of turn signals to change lanes or turn because the relocated drivers sure don't use them here.


:cop:I am a "newbee", but I thought that the outer circle was REQUIRED to exit at the next "outlet" in the circle, where the inner circle had the OPTION of either exiting at any of the outlets or continuing around. I believe that the lane markers support this - but I am going to check when I return on Thursday!

20 lashes if I'm wrong!

[golfnut]

Ken, that's the way I try to negotiate the roundabouts, if I'm in the center a want to exit and there's someone on the right and slightly behind I look for his turn signal and even still I try to slow down to watch him commit if I'm not sure of his intentions.

[zcaveman]

Would you ever turn from the left lane on a two lane street headed east across the right lane to make a right hand turn? Why would you even think that you could do that in a roundabout?

In foreign countries where the roundabout is actually a big traffic circle you negotiate yourself into the right hand lane and make the turn. The roundabouts here (especially north of 466) are not that big. Please get in the right lane and follow it around and exit at your desired street. If you are going to go at least two or three quarters around then try the inside lane but get into the outside lane before you exit.

AND keep your eye out for the construction and landscaping vehicles. They do not care.

[golfnut]

Z, 2 lanes in the roundabout exiting into 2 lanes, there's room for both, yes you can exit the roundabout from the center lane. Here is a link to an excellent video that explains it, they should give one of these to everyone who buys in TV. http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/eesc/CAE/designvisualization/video/Portfolio/Modern_Roundabouts/mpg_index.htm

[zcaveman]

Golfnut, I watched the video. Agree everyone should watch it - even though it is the state of Washington and not Florida it does tell the procedure. The important thing to remember from this video is to go slow and watch out for the other traffic. The inside lane does not have an automatic shot at exiting at exit number two, three, or four since he is on the inside and some one else could have entered from a later point.

For the most part, everyone does the roundabout correctly. Every once in a while you get some one shooting in from the left lane and whipping out from the left lane with out even looking to see if there is some one continuing around the circle.

Every annual survey I ask that the Daily Sun includes the rules of the roundabout in grey or color once a month so that newbies and us oldies can be made aware of roundabout rules in TV. It has yet to happen.

[Cliff]

I've read all the comments from people who think TV is paradise and I wonder why they respond to a subject that requests to hear any negative comments. We have been here for 6+ years. We have noticed that each new neighborhood that is built is constructed using the knowledge learned from the prior neighborhood. The older parts of TV have narrow streets and the newer neighborhoods are much wider and safer to drive on. The newer neighborhoods have more posted street signs and thought has been given to what speeds would be considered appropriate. A lot of people think that going to the town centers in the evenings with their pets in tow is fun. If you like to have dogs urinating on chairs, tables, people's legs, and if you enjoy being bumped around by intoxicated lugs holding a glass of beer in each hand - then you will be happy here. I have a puppy and we love him dearly. However, I would never take him to the town squares because he has no place there. Why impose on other people? The newer neighborhoods South of 466 are, indeed, more appropriate for the younger retirees coming to TV. They appear to have more money to spend (houses are much more expensive South of 466) and enjoy partying more than most of us older folks. Some of us who have been here for a while have feelings that the Developer is greedy. That is because we bought when advertising said you could play a championship course for a dollar a hole. Now it costs $54 to play 18 at the Palmer course. No problems getting a tee time there because few want to pay the higher price which has no place in a retirement community. Yet, the prices are not lowered even though they would get more players if the prices were adjusted. Doesn't seem to make much sense. Yes, there are negative things about TV. Few want to mention them because TV is, indeed, much better than most retirement communities. Not politically correct to be negative here. Just learn to smile and move aside when the newer residents want to pass you with their 20K golf carts. You would never hear any of them complain about the prices of golf in TV. Better quit my negative thoughts before I start talking about the Priority Golf system.

[tcrosegolf]

My wife and I are considering a move to The Villages. Can anyone tell me if the humidity/temp. in Florida is really as repressive as some say? I know every place has it's pro's and con's . We are native Minnesotan's ( very hot and very humid in summer ) now living in Tucson for the past year . We miss the GREEN landscape of Minnesota but not the white landscape. The red and brown landscaping in Tucson, we have found is also not our cup of tea. Sounds like form most postings you can SEE heaven from TV but wife is worried about the humidity. Should she be?

[Russ_Boston]

Cliff,

I hear you about the high fees at Palmer BUT...

Back here in MA I pay anywhere from $60 to $95 per round (with cart) on the weekend. Sure there are many others that might be around $45 to $50 but they are not the quality of the TV courses. Also Palmer is much higher than the other courses at TV. But i do hear you! Prices for golf are something i have to consider before moving to TV but it won't stop me!

[Avista]

Tell you wife the humidity will be very good for her skin. :)
If she is really uncomfortable in the summer, stay in the house just as you would stay in the house in the winter in Minnesota. It really isn't that bad. Also, breathing humid air is much better than breathing dry air. You won't wake up with a dry air sore throat.

[schotzyb]

I've read all the comments from people who think TV is paradise and I wonder why they respond to a subject that requests to hear any negative comments. We have been here for 6+ years. We have noticed that each new neighborhood that is built is constructed using the knowledge learned from the prior neighborhood. The older parts of TV have narrow streets and the newer neighborhoods are much wider and safer to drive on. The newer neighborhoods have more posted street signs and thought has been given to what speeds would be considered appropriate. A lot of people think that going to the town centers in the evenings with their pets in tow is fun. If you like to have dogs urinating on chairs, tables, people's legs, and if you enjoy being bumped around by intoxicated lugs holding a glass of beer in each hand - then you will be happy here. I have a puppy and we love him dearly. However, I would never take him to the town squares because he has no place there. Why impose on other people? The newer neighborhoods South of 466 are, indeed, more appropriate for the younger retirees coming to TV. They appear to have more money to spend (houses are much more expensive South of 466) and enjoy partying more than most of us older folks. Some of us who have been here for a while have feelings that the Developer is greedy. That is because we bought when advertising said you could play a championship course for a dollar a hole. Now it costs $54 to play 18 at the Palmer course. No problems getting a tee time there because few want to pay the higher price which has no place in a retirement community. Yet, the prices are not lowered even though they would get more players if the prices were adjusted. Doesn't seem to make much sense. Yes, there are negative things about TV. Few want to mention them because TV is, indeed, much better than most retirement communities. Not politically correct to be negative here. Just learn to smile and move aside when the newer residents want to pass you with their 20K golf carts. You would never hear any of them complain about the prices of golf in TV. Better quit my negative thoughts before I start talking about the Priority Golf system.



Green fees have skyrocketed while retirees incomes have not. $54 for 18 holes of golf is certainly outside my range. For that amount one should be able to play at least two rounds.I guess it means that for those that cannot or will not pay those rates, you either play elsewhere in the Villages or even outside the Villages and that is not the reason people move here; to play courses outside the community. There is always the Executive courses if you can get on them in the winter months.

[diskman]

bump its been a while

[Russ_Boston]

schotzyb - I love how some people on this site exagerate to make a point.

I just looked at the newly published green fees for the fall and winter and you can play on the lowest price championship courses for around $30 in the fall and around $40 in the winter. Still not cheap but not $54.

In fact the only course for a resident that is over $50 is Palmer during the Winter season.

New fees here: http://www.golfthevillages.com/tee-times/golfrates-winter08.asp

[drdodge]

greatest place in the world to retire

darrell

[diskman]

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[cabo35]

Hmmmm, let me think. I know, it's the wildlife on the golf courses that interupt concentration on my high handicap golf game.

When I stop my cart and and get ready to walk to the tee, those crazy monkey squirrels will hop into the cart next to me and rummage through the cubby looking for a snack. Than there was the episode at Cane Garden when my wife saw the cutest little pig in the fairway next to the rough. She started to walk toward it until I told her it was a baby boar and mama, who had to be nearby, probably wouldn't appreciate it. How about those big, beautiful sand hill cranes that will invariably strut in front of you as you play those spectacular lakeside holes at Palmer. You have to wait and admire them as it totally throws your rhythm off. Of course there's that cute baby alligator that occasionally crosses a fairway headed for the pond. The others in your foursome drop their clubs and grab their cameras. Triple bogie that hole. As if that isn't enough distraction, you have to look out for mama and papa when you retrieve the ball you just shanked next to the water.

If only I could train one of those monkey squirrels to retrieve my ball, or, ahem, the occasional errant ball that goes into the rough or out of bounds. If they would just drop it where it left the fairway. That wouldn't be considered a penalty, would it?

Well, there you have it. Our little secret. A walking wildlife tour of our golf courses. I mean, do Tiger or Phil have to deal with these distractions?

[F16 1UB]

I hate having to put the :edit: that we've accumulated over the years out for a garage sale. And it's because of TV that I'm doing this. It's definitely better than moving it to TV but.... Look out next week trash at the curb if it doesn't sell. Anyone wanna buy 1,218 episodes of Guiding Light? That's what I thought. (See 4th sentence)

Steve

[jjdees]

Cabo, Thanks for a fresh round of reasons. I've blamed my lumbar disks, toothaches, planes flying over, phones ringing, wet fairways, etc.etc.etc. I hadn't thought of the wildlife.

[zcaveman]

I hate having to put the :edit: that we've accumulated over the years out for a garage sale. And it's because of TV that I'm doing this. It's definitely better than moving it to TV but.... Look out next week trash at the curb if it doesn't sell. Anyone wanna buy 1,218 episodes of Guiding Light? That's what I thought. (See 4th sentence)

Steve


After the yard sale, you have a 1/2 price yard sale with a free table for those things you want to get rid of but don't want to throw away. Then you put it all by the curb and the yard sale ghouls who know you would do that will go through what you tossed and take what ever they want.

I made trips to the local charities and veteran clothes bins and the goodwill stores to get rid of some of the stuff. Then friends and the dump and finally the garbage.

[Button]

The one thing i dont like is, the rude people that allow there pet, to use my yard as there potty, there is one man in particular, that i have asked nicely, please dont let your dog use the yard as his potty, the man will walk his dog, everyday now, past my house, and let his dog do his business in my yard. I have even stood in my driveway, when i see him coming, and he will stare right at me, and still let his dog still use my yard for his potty, I am sure that he signed the same village agreement we did, and that is to curb your pet, any suggestions?

[Atlanta0744]

th6095

If that was my property I would spray him and the dog with pepper spray and if he was stupid enough to call the police I would say he attacked you when you confronted him about the dog going on your property. Or I would just knock him on his A_ _. Have a nice day....

[zcaveman]

I have told several dog walkers to not use my yard as it confuses my dog when he goes out. Most of them walk on the other side of the street now. I would not be averse to bringing out my hose and squirting their dog if they do not listen. I would not care what the cops say when they come over. Oops officer I was watering my lawn when I did not see the little varmint messing in my yard. Must have been an accident.

[Barefoot]

Why don't you collect the evidence, follow him home, and give it to his wife? Bet you won't see him again. Or follow him home, get his address and report him to the Villages Dog Poop Police. ;D

Don't spray the dog with water or pepper spray .. the dog isn't the one being rude and stupid .. but definitely the owner is being a total jerk. And giving other dog owners a bad name, I hate that.

[diskman]

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[GERALDINE]

Larry:

It's hard to be "negative" about TV, it does have a lot of amenities, etc...but be aware that if it looks too good to be true...it probably is. Everything is not really as it appears and once you live here you find that out...but by then it's too late. The concept is good, and for the most part the people are friendly and fun loving, but like any community there are a lot of "BRATS".

My main complaint is that, unless you can afford to live in a Premiere home...it gets really boring...really quick...to drive down your street and see the SAME house after house, after house. You begin to feel like you're living in a post WWII housing project. This gets very depressing. You can even begin to tell who used what landscaper because they replicate the same plan and the same plants. It's depressing after a few years because there's not much you can do to change your house or your neighborhood. Hope you're RICH and can afford a custom designed Premiere home!!!!

[jadebox]

I see the neighborhood I live in and the others in a different way. In each house I see a different personality in the way the landscaping is done. There are enough different styles and colors to make it attractive. The villas all look alike but that is how they are suppose to look.

[Peggy D]

th6095

If that was my property I would spray him and the dog with pepper spray and if he was stupid enough to call the police I would say he attacked you when you confronted him about the dog going on your property. Or I would just knock him on his A_ _. Have a nice day....


Just happen to be outside "watering" the flowers, and--OPPS--"the hose got away from me", or, "I didn't see you and your little doggie there" (wink, wink)

;D

[bestmickey]

The one thing i dont like is, the rude people that allow there pet, to use my yard as there potty, there is one man in particular, that i have asked nicely, please dont let your dog use the yard as his potty, the man will walk his dog, everyday now, past my house, and let his dog do his business in my yard. I have even stood in my driveway, when i see him coming, and he will stare right at me, and still let his dog still use my yard for his potty, I am sure that he signed the same village agreement we did, and that is to curb your pet, any suggestions?


I'd do a couple of things. I'd take a digital photo of the creep and the dog while the doggie is doing his business. Make sure to stand so that you also get your house in the photo, to prove it's on your property. Then I'd post the photo on TOTV, along with a closeup of the creep. I'd also submit the photos to, and file a complaint with, the "deed police". Then, I'd take the doggie's business, follow the creep home, and would deposit it at the creeps front door.

If necessary, I'd repeat the process a few times before resorting to filing a complaint with the real police. I'm not sure what the charge could be...perhaps "public nuisance"?

[diskman]

I'd do a couple of things. I'd take a digital photo of the creep and the dog while the doggie is doing his business. Make sure to stand so that you also get your house in the photo, to prove it's on your property. Then I'd post the photo on TOTV, along with a closeup of the creep. I'd also submit the photos to, and file a complaint with, the "deed police". Then, I'd take the doggie's business, follow the creep home, and would deposit it at the creeps front door.

If necessary, I'd repeat the process a few times before resorting to filing a complaint with the real police. I'm not sure what the charge could be...perhaps "public nuisance"?

:agree: :agree: now this is a great solution
i love it
larry

[GERALDINE]

Would you ever turn from the left lane on a two lane street headed east across the right lane to make a right hand turn? Why would you even think that you could do that in a roundabout?

In foreign countries where the roundabout is actually a big traffic circle you negotiate yourself into the right hand lane and make the turn. The roundabouts here (especially north of 466) are not that big. Please get in the right lane and follow it around and exit at your desired street. If you are going to go at least two or three quarters around then try the inside lane but get into the outside lane before you exit.

AND keep your eye out for the construction and landscaping vehicles. They do not care.



:agree: AMEN, Praise The Lord...you hit the proverbial nail on the head with our answer!!! I've asked everyone to think about it...would you make a right hand turn on US-27 from the left hand lane...well, some people would and do...but for the most of us, the answer is NO....so don't do it in a round-about!!! Thanks for sharing this info.

[diskman]

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[MarciaK]

My husband and I have been here 6 yrs. There's not much here that we don't like. If you really want a negative, I guess it would be Snow Bird Season. The traffic, the long lines at restaurants, and the people just seem to be alittle ruder. You'd think they'd be happy to be here in Paradise. If not, then why are they here??? During the summer months, we don't experience any of the above. But we grin and bear it, as we are well aware that this is the time of year that the businesses make their profits. I just wish these people would slow down and relax while they're here. Also. we could use a way to tighten up on the local outsiders from using our amenities. They don't want to live here, so why do they want to use them?? Go figure!

[jadebox]

Well said. Most of the Snowbirds I like but there are those few that are hard to take with their grouchy ways. True that Summer is SSSSOOO nice. We know that we love many of the snowbirds and the businesses need their money so we grin and stay home just a little more then we do in the summer.

[Marengo37]

What is there not to like living in the Villages? I have lived here four beautiful years and have yet to find anything negative. Where else can we golf nonstop, without paying the price of a country club? Where else can we join clubs for $5 annual fees? Where else can we drive golf carts all over a town the size of 65,000? My new automobile of three years has only 6,000 miles on it. Charging up golf carts surpasses filling up at the pumps. Where else can I join or attend every class for free? Anyone who thinks that there is anyplace else to live that is more affordable and fun, please let me know, as I believe we do live in Paradise every day we get up and are alive and well. If anyone doesn't like it here - I feel sorry for you.

[Frangyomory]

Love the place but you will have to learn to contend with the Florida drivers and some headless drivers!!! LOL !!!

Amazing thing we saw last week was a little lady in a new red vehicle making a LEFT turn on red!!!! Don't know where she lived before but I can't imagine it was legal there either.

You will also have to learn to contend with golf cart drivers who have NEVER driven a vehicle before. This is the first real freedom they have and they are NOT always cautious.

Other than that....come on down. This place is great for you!!!

[bargee]

First off I dislike the word hate,that being said my major annoyance are the "Full Timers"that have the impression that they own the place and the seasonal residents are one big pain in the a--.The seasonal residents pay taxes 12 months a year,they pay amenity fees 12 months a year,they pay for trash collection 12 months a year.Without the support of our seasonal friends we would not be able to afford this wonderful place we call home.So the next time you are annoyed because you can't get your favorite Tee time on your favorite course you might want thank the S---B----. for letting you use their facilitys all summer.Now quit whining!!!

[Frangyomory]

bargee....just a daggone second. Yes EVERYONE pays 12 months of all fees, etc....yes, snowbirds only use them part of the year....BUT...some snow birds act like we should defer to them in the Winter months because they are not here all year.

Sorry charlie but that tuna stinks!!!!!

I like all my neighbors regardless of how long they live here. We have some lovely Winter residents and some I am glad go back up North for a few months.

Don't care if snow birds pay for a full year and don't use it. THEY decided to live here part time and that's the cost of buying a residence in the Villages if you don't plan to be here all year long.

It is comments like yours that cause dislike and discontent between full time folks and part time folks. Give it a rest!!!!! I just relax in the Winter and leave for Church an hour before the Mass begins, just to get a parking place and a seat. Also, we eat dinner earlier in Winter, just to be sure to get a table. That's life for me.

Don't cry for me Argentina and I won't cry for you!!!!! :dontknow:

[jadebox]

Come on lighten up. We don't hate seasonal people (Snowbirds) we just adjust to their being here.We go to restaurants, stores etc earlier and know it will be harder to get a tee time. I for one realize we need you. The stores and restaurants hate it when the snowbirds are gone. We love summers but know when you all come back we need to be patient.

[octcr]

I was down in July...it was very nice...my question is what about the clubs? If there are lines for golf and places to eat do we have to look into signing up now for Jan-April to attend various clubs? That is when I will be down and want to sign up for beginners golf, computer classes to start...are you serious about leaving for church an hour early to get there and hope for a seat? I did not realize what winter was like with snow birds landing in for the winter...I better start laying out my game plan...need some insight fellow TV'ers.
What about tickets to Savannah Shows...do we need to buy now?

[jadebox]

I think clubs are OK. Pittsburgh culb quit taking members at 750 but now there is a second club. I think you should sign up for Savannah shows ASAP. Some OK to wait but many sell out. Golf--well when you make reservations be sure to leave a big window of time you want to play. Don't expect to put a one hour window at a popular time and expect to get it. We love The Villages no matter what time of the year it is.

[Frangyomory]

Clubs are ok. Our pinochle group is about 40 in Summer and extends to about 50 or so in Winter. Other clubs are about the same.

Yes, I leave at 8 am for 9 am Mass at St. Timothy Catholic Community. The church is quite crowded in Winter and since I can't stand for a full service due to back and leg medical problems, I leave home at 8 am to be sure of parking and a seat. There is standing room only at 9 and 11 am Masses and they add a 12:45 Mass in November, December, January and February.

I personally am not otherwise bothered by the beefing up of numbers in Winter. I just resent hearing how unfair it is for snowbirds who have to pay for trash, etc. when they are not here. We all make choices and that's the price of a free choice.

[Sandy222]

I don't like the bugs and snakes, I don't like the feel of walking through the thick St. Augustine grass, I don't like needing a water purifier, I don't like the fact that there is no curbside recycling, I don't like trying to think of things I don't like. These things are by no means just in The Villages. I love the fact I don't own a snowshovel, ice scraper or oil furnace.

[diskman]

BUMP

[jadebox]

I love not seeing those plastic recycle baskets along the street. I love the great tasting water we have in our part of The Villages. I just love The Villages.

[Midge538]

Roundabouts

[diskman]

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[Barefoot]

I've finally found something I hate in the Villages! Boys who use the golf cart tunnels for skate boarding! :edit: >:(

I am trying to get used to driving my new golf cart. I was going through the Belvedere tunnel and almost ran over some kid who came zooming up from the dark and cut in front of me on a skate board! There were several of them and they were completely oblivious to traffic.

Other than that, life in TV is perfect! I have to pinch myself every day to make sure I'm not dreaming. :bigthumbsup:

[chuckster]

Nattering Nabobs of Negativisim............Whiners

[gfmucci]

Barking dogs: By this I mean that when you get one whiner going (by inviting negative complaints) you get others to think about awful things, whether the complaint results from their own failures or not. This is the "barking dog syndrome." You get one started barking, they all start barking.

In other words, I agree with Chuckster.

Yes, we all have the right to b----, complain, moan, blame, accuse. Yes, learning about abuses or the mistakes of others can be helpful. But dwelling on such things makes a person a bit more miserable. Or to be more positive, a bit less happy.

[joe kaelin]

Barefoot: I wasn't aware that boys that young either lived in TV or close enough to skateboard in the community. Where are they coming from?

[joe kaelin]

You know, I'm sitting here laughing at the posts about full time resident complaints re the part time owners. I'm sure you would also find it funny and maybe informative, that we SB's complain about the many of the same things that you do. When we visit our home in TV "in season" as opposed to "off season", we complain about the traffic, the crowded restaurants and stores, the lack of parking spots and tee times, just as you do. But we've learned to roll with the punches and live in harmony with you full-timers as best we can. :bigthumbsup:

[RCT]

You know, I'm sitting here laughing at the posts about full time resident complaints re the part time owners. I'm sure you would also find it funny and maybe informative, that we SB's complain about the many of the same things that you do. When we visit our home in TV "in season" as opposed to "off season", we complain about the traffic, the crowded restaurants and stores, the lack of parking spots and tee times, just as you do. But we've learned to roll with the punches and live in harmony with you full-timers as best we can. :bigthumbsup:
For some reason, your post made the song from Oklahoma come into my head. you know, "oh, the farmers and the cowboys should be friends" :bigthumbsup:

[Taltarzac]

Barefoot: I wasn't aware that boys that young either lived in TV or close enough to skateboard in the community. Where are they coming from?


That Belvedere tunnel is near the Villages high school.

[diskman]

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[Cliff]

I believe that the idea of this thread was to give "negative" things about TV instead of just the positive things. So, some people respond accordingly. That only brings out the people who see things only through rose colored glasses and they think they have a God given right to complain about the negative remarks. There really is nothing wrong with people giving their HONEST opinions, when it is requested of them. If you don't feel that statement is true, then post on some other thread. :welcome:

[Taltarzac]

Wind blowing the mail back into the mail center when you open your mail box. This is a problem at least at our Villages mail box. Do not know if other Villagers have this same problem at their mail boxes? :dontknow:

[MarciaK]

There is no standard "time frame". We have people who have been residents since The Villages was born. Yes they are considered the vetern's, the newbies are the one's who have only been here a couple weeks. I think that everyone falls into this lifestyle so quickly, we become vetern's real quick. Oh and by the way are you from Hamburg, New York? We have family there, well actually they live in the Boston Hills.

[Cliff]

Marciak, maybe you should start to use the spell check. As a VETERAN, I take offense at your spelling of the word. :edit:

[samhass]

I dislike the new speed bumps on the cart path outside of Bridgeport at Lake Sumter. It's even more dangerous now. We almost hit a cart last night. He tried to make it past before the gate went up. This happens much more with the bumps in place. Carts pass over the bump, then try to rush past only to have to slow down again on the other side. We can't see the carts as we exit our village. I tend to stop half way thru the gate and look again so I don't hit anyone. Kids on carts don't seem to know that cars have the right of way. Please use caution at the Bridgeport entrance. It's scary!

[donbettyr]

Hate to join in the parade, but you get so much here for so little $. This is a really inexpensive place to live, compared to where we came from(northern Virginia), from housing, to movie costs, to price of haircuts. And really a deal when you compare the amenities relative to just a golf course community with 1 club house and 1 or 2 courses.

[diskman]

BUMP

[chuckster]

BUMP??? :dontknow:

[Taltarzac]

Bump.

[nanci2539]

What does Bump mean?

[golfnut]

It brings the topic back to the top of the listing so it is readily viewable again. Some people also put in ttt, which means to the top.

[The Gray Hog]

The round outs.........love 'em or hate 'em. Actually saw a guy in the left lane turning left going into a circle........yikes, wrong way Bud.

[Taltarzac]

The round outs.........love 'em or hate 'em. Actually saw a guy in the left lane turning left going into a circle........yikes, wrong way Bud.


Thank God I have not seen that! Saw a dump truck that tried to take the Tall Trees roundabout too fast and had turned over on its side. >:(

[diskman]

I am amazed that this subject i started many months ago is still going and now other people are doing the bump.
we do appreciate everybody's input.

[plexer]

I do have one thing I dont like about The Villages. My mailbox is in the lowest row. With arthritis in my spine it is very difficult to get my mail! Of course was just the luck of the draw, but how nice it must be to stand up straight and gaze into your mailbox. Murphy's law dictates that a shorter person probably has a mailbox on the top row! I have adapted, lol!

Plex

[lm01]

I was told to stay away from Living toooo close to the Commercial areas because of rodent problems. But, I have not seen anything of concern. I think the Villages are on top of the situation to keep things clean

[bamafan]

Plexer, You are correct. My mailbox is on the top row, and it is hard for my wife and I to get the mail out. Like you it was the luck of the draw.

[gfmucci]

Can tall and short people in this situation trade boxes and box numbers? :joke:

[Muncle]

I do have one thing I dont like about The Villages. My mailbox is in the lowest row. With arthritis in my spine it is very difficult to get my mail! Of course was just the luck of the draw, but how nice it must be to stand up straight and gaze into your mailbox. Murphy's law dictates that a shorter person probably has a mailbox on the top row! I have adapted, lol!

Plex


Have you contacted whomsoever is in charge of mailboxes, explained about your arthritis, and asked for a different box? I really doubt they knew about your spine or Bama's height when the boxes were assigned.

[Avista]

Actually, I prefer the mail bank to door to door mail delivery. We travel a lot--often for just a couple of days. Before we moved here, we were always starting and stopping our mail. It was a pain. Here we don't have to worry about it. Also, prior to moving here we would put our outgoing mail in our mailbox and put the little red flag up. Well, we all know this is not safe--either for outgoing or incoming mail. The whole world has access to ones mail box. Here everything is locked. The outgoing mail goes into a "deposit mail here box. Much safer.

[Hope2b]

My son lives in an upscale community in Orlando. When he moved in it was beautiful. Now the only eyesore is the mailboxes. They all match but some are crooked, some need a touchup of paint, among other things. They need and do correct these things but it seems like there are always several needing attention at one time.
I thought I would hate not having door to door mail but like Avista I enjoy all the pluses of the mail station.

[redwitch]

There are two things I truly don't like about TV. I'm one of those who wants the mail at my house, so the mail centers are a royal pain in the rear to me. Of course, it does give me a chance to socialize with some very nice people and I usually get to pet a dog or two when I get my mail so it's at least tolerable.

The other one is actually a complaint about Florida and the South in general but since I'm in TV, the complaint will be against TV. I hate, hate, hate the humidity. Who knows, I might get used to it in about 15 years. If I don't get used to it by then, I'm leaving TV. I'll have gotten the message this place is just not for me. ;)

[SteveZ]

Hmmm... 90 degrees and 90% humidity is what I prefer.

The "mail center" is now the standard scheme within USPS, and even the most upscale new developments are getting them nationwide. At least TV has combined the mail with social/entertaiment support systems.

When I first moved to FL in the early 80's (came from the Boston area), I can remember adjusting to the climate by going swimming 11 months the first year, then 10 months the next year, untiil eventually it was down to 3 weeks! The real notice of adjustment is the day you look in your closet and see nothing that is long-sleeved or containing wool.

My standard rapport to anyone who says they can't live without the 4 seasons is, "that's why I get Discovery Channel!"

[beady]

I hate that there is not enough hours in the day to do all the things I want to do.

[Muncle]

Have you contacted whomsoever is in charge of mailboxes, explained about your arthritis, and asked for a different box? I really doubt they knew about your spine or Bama's height when the boxes were assigned.


Okay, I'll now eat some crow. :bow: Apologies of sorts to Plexer and Bama. It evidently does no good to contact the USPS about the location of your mail box. I called Jane's Outpost re procedures to get your box relocated if you had a medical or altitudinal issue that caused problems with the present location, i.e., couldn't bend that low or reach that high. Thought I could get the procedures and relay them to anyone who might be in a similar situation. The helpful gentleman there explained that the USPS was in charge of this and that boxes were preassigned by address to facilitate mail sorting. He said that in 10 years dealing with the issue, he'd never seen a box location changed. This included the case of a wheelchair bound resident. Because of the sorting system, the USPS claims that to change one box would require changing all of them. :barf:

Sorry for the bad news.

[JohnN]

Muncle, so the govt has a disabilities act, but cannot accomodate,

why am I not surprised

[Peggy D]

I hate that there is not enough hours in the day to do all the things I want to do.


Not in TV yet, but understand exactly what you mean.

Now that I am retired, I can't figure out HOW I ever had time to work!!

[Taltarzac]

Okay, I'll now eat some crow. :bow: Apologies of sorts to Plexer and Bama. It evidently does no good to contact the USPS about the location of your mail box. I called Jane's Outpost re procedures to get your box relocated if you had a medical or altitudinal issue that caused problems with the present location, i.e., couldn't bend that low or reach that high. Thought I could get the procedures and relay them to anyone who might be in a similar situation. The helpful gentleman there explained that the USPS was in charge of this and that boxes were preassigned by address to facilitate mail sorting. He said that in 10 years dealing with the issue, he'd never seen a box location changed. This included the case of a wheelchair bound resident. Because of the sorting system, the USPS claims that to change one box would require changing all of them. :barf:

Sorry for the bad news.


That explains why my neighbors' boxes seem to be right around mine. ;D

[Irish Rover]

I wasn't sure if I should put this reply here or in the "lack of good manners post". We arrived here on Dec 30th after having skipped coming down last year (illness). The changes that have taken place in two years are big. Several things stand out more than others. There is a lot more traffic - car & cart - everywhere. I've read all the posts concerning speeding in TV on the roads and cart paths - all true. Once again this year, we have met some terrific people who enjoy TV like we do, but we have also met some of the rudest people ever. This place is paradise and a significant number of people are determined to make it purgatory. Pushy in lines at Publix, the movie theatres, restaurants, and if you can believe it even coming out of church. It seems no one wants to give way on the cart paths - carters or walkers.

We saw first hand an accident at the entrance to Calumet caused by someone who didn't know how to navigate the roundabout. That was a topic on an earlier post.

On the bright side, the golf courses are in good shape. El Santiago is back to being a good restaurant. We have had great service in restaurants at both town squares. The tee time system is working for us and the weather has been terrific.

Nonie - if you read this, the Flea Market at Marion is still going great guns.
To all - we might be getting older but let's not grow up. Enjoy this second shot at "being young". Maybe the crabby people will decide to move to Sanibel or Marco Is.

Aloha for TV

[diskman]

:) We love talk of the villages! How else would we know when choosing a home, we now know we need to check out the location of the mail slot!! thanks to you all your imput
:bigthumbsup:

[The Great Fumar]

Mail boxes are not luck of the draw....
They are assigned to an address and cannot be changed... Thats how they get the mail sorted so quickly., they have a system to place mail in your area....
Besides when it goes out, its secure and when it comes in its secure until you pick it up , great system, love it , If this creates a problem then the only thing you can do is , watch people pick up their mail, when you see someone who has a choice location , follow them home and buy a house in their area......only kidding , but many retirement communities have this system and it seems to work well for the majority.......

satisfied Fumar

[another Linda]

Not sure what I hate about The Villages, but what I hate about TOTV is posts like the one about what frost heaves could possibly be. Hard to explain why you are laughing when you are alone in a room. Husband thinks I've lost it.

[Hope2b]

:) We love talk of the villages! How else would we know when choosing a home, we now know we need to check out the location of the mail slot!! thanks to you all your imput
:bigthumbsup:

ROTFLMAO ;D That is a good one. Never thought of that!!!!!
When we sold our CYV to move to our ranch the closing agent asked what the mailbox number was for the CYV. I could not remember!!! I had been here 5 years and just went directly to the box without thinking about it. I could show them but tell the number--no way.

[BUC]

No Fences allowed on the property that I own.

[Villages Kahuna]

Just multiply this picture by the gazillions!

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj316/Villages_Kahuna/images.jpg

[nONIE]

eeeewwwwwwww! Cant stand even looking at the picture! What do they like to eat???

Ill make sure that I have none in the house. >:(

[pm10]

What IS that, exactly, Kahuna??? :o

[JohnN]

Nonie,
If I recall right, they don't eat anything, they have no digestive system and live only a day. It's sex sex sex and then die LOLOL short but great
They're here for a few weeks cuz they don't all hatch the same day

[nONIE]

Phew! (sigh of relief)

Thanks John I feel better now. ::) So they dont even stick around long enough to see their kids hu?

[Russ_Boston]

A little knowledge from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_bug

[blueeagle65]

I think it would be nice if the snow birds had functional kitchens and used them a couple days a week ;D

[Barefoot]

I think it would be nice if the snow birds had functional kitchens and used them a couple days a week ;D


Obviously you've never tasted my cooking. ;D

[MUSICIAN]

The lifestyle

[nanci2539]

Musician - can I ask you why you hate the lifestyle! This is a first; never read this before.

[Donna]

The lifestyle


Musician..
I have to ask too..What do you hate about the lifestyle?? :agree: with nanci..I never heard this before..Please explain if you would!!

[Russ_Boston]

Musician must have read the question wrong.

[jerseygirl008]

I'm with Russ. Read the question wrong . . . or ~ is being a lit-tle bit playful, in a cute way. Can't wait to hear Musician's answer.

[MUSICIAN]

No, I read the question correctly. I think my answer went away from popular opinion is all. Let me break the lifestyle down into two categories -- social and homestead.

Social: Most of you describe the lifestyle in a Disney World way. I like Disney, but I wouldn't want it on a day-to-day basis. When I sit on my back porch, I don't want to hear every other back porch conversation. I like quiet, private time in and out of the house.

Homestead: Contrary to popular thinking there, the homes are not very well built. Now I realize that in a warm State without the snow, etc., there need not be the kind of insulation and other hard weather design. But these houses will fall down in the rain. I exaggerate a bit but not much.

Also, riding around on public roads in a golf cart is not my idea of peaceful living. I love to play golf, but executive courses are not what I enjoy most. The management company or in some cases builders who control TV treat the residents like children to be managed instead of homeowners requiring them to meet the needs of keeping the property.

There are other things I could mention, but I think I have expanded on my one word description more than I should have.

I am not saying it's not just fine for some folks, just not to my idea of retirement.

[villages07]

Musician,

As I've said to 'up North' friends and family, The Villages is not for everyone. For someone whose idyllic lifestyle is living in a somewhat isolated cabin in the mountains or by a lake, the Villages would seem too close and too social. Others thrive on the social interactions here.

But, I have to ask the obvious question.... if you dislike (don't want to use the word "hate") some of the very fundamental features of The Villages, why spend time and effort on a Villages-oriented website and forum?

[MUSICIAN]

Education

[SteveFromNY]

Education


Ours or yours?

[Russ_Boston]

Could be just viral, I do it all the time in my job but I wouldn't spend personal time on a forum where i had no intention of using the information gathered. You are welcome, of course, but why bother anymore since your mind seems to be made up against this lifestyle?

[LovinItAtTheVillages]

I love it here..but of course nothing is perfect
my one "gripe" is that I live on "the other side" the original section
and it seems all the best rec centers and good things are over in the newer sections
My Hubby called to see if there is exercise equipment at Paradise Center here on our side, and they said no...Mallory and Laurel manor are closest
Just doesnt seem fair...we all pay same thing a month..( I assume?)
and we dont have the same things to enjoy here

[Barefoot]

But these houses will fall down in the rain. I exaggerate a bit but not much.

I think Musician's specious comment about houses falling down in the rain shows Musician isn't for real -- just someone trying to amuse themselves making waves. :dontknow:

[SteveZ]

The last time I checked the US Constitution, there is a 13th Amendment which, among other things, protects folk from being forcibly kept within TV against their will.

One thing about the Planet Earth - Eden went belly-up a long time ago, and Heaven isn't located on any continent. That being said, TV - despite some hiccups - sure beats a whole lot of other spots on this Blue Marble.

And Lord love the US Constitution and the 13th Amendment - no prisoners here!

[MUSICIAN]

I don't believe I insulted anyway. Just gave my opinion. If a different idea of what retirement community should be is received with rudeness, then the friendliest hometown is not.

I have many blogs. Be assured, I will not interrupt you again. I wish you all well truly.

[golfnut]

Good luck MUSICIAN.

[Donna]

Here we go again...http://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/rolleye.gif (http://www.millan.net)

[SteveFromNY]

I don't believe I insulted anyway. Just gave my opinion. If a different idea of what retirement community should be is received with rudeness, then the friendliest hometown is not.

I have many blogs. Be assured, I will not interrupt you again. I wish you all well truly.


Somebody comes to my house and tells me it's gonna fall down when it rains, and I'm rude?

Can't believe someone appearing so knowledgable could be so naive. I'm not sure how friendly anyone's going to be to someone who is this insulting.

I agree Musician has a right to his opinion, and can voice it here, but I have a right to mine. And if I'm feeling insulted, I have a right to not be overly friendly.

That said, I wish him the best as well in his search for a place that meets his needs.

[jjdees]

Hey Musician,

I have just the place for you in N. Atlanta. You'd love it. Privacy if you want it, lakes, not far from shopping, lots of room. Quality built all brick ranch with full basement. Priced right.

[JohnnyM]

I thought we were done with "Mak Attacks" :dontknow: :dontknow: :dontknow:

[richman]

I'm with you English -- I 2nd that emotion :agree:

[Lou Card]

Patti and I have been down a few times and like what we see. When the market improves enough to sell our home in Central Georgia, we will be joining ya'll.

Lou

[efrahin]

Musician: If you dont like it TV nobody is interested in your opinion, please go somewhere else. I cant wait to sell my property in NY to get out of here, but I will not bad mouth NY, it is a nice place for some people some time. I raised my family here and have no regrets. Now I just want do Disney World and enjoy it.

[sati]

A few things could be improved:

Lack of real cultural opportunities and excellent restaurants (but Gainesville is only about an hour away).

Hardly anyone signals as they leave a roundabout and many peel off from the left lane which is very dangerous if there's a car in the right lane who wants to continue on. To be fair, the roundabouts are not big enough to use the left lane properly --- they should only have a single lane.

Golf carts don't realize that bikers have the same rights as cars and should give way to them.

Other than the above, the Villages certainly is "Disneyland for Adults" and provides many opportunities to handle boredom.

Modification: I had not read the Musician's comments before I posted this but what he says seems to be a reasonable response to the question posed....

[chelsea24]

I just think Musician wanted to stir the waters. He really can't be that ignorant. Can he? :dontknow: I personally love it here and agree with all the others. But to each his own. We all create our own realities and I don't think Musician has a very pleasant one. His tone in his last posting was, indeed, rude. There are some people that just aren't happy wherever they are or whatever they're doing. I have a cousin like that and I call her Dinah the Whinah. I believe she's actually addicted to being miserable. Not me! Life is too short! Love all you fellow TV'ers. ;D

[MUSICIAN]

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[diskman]

I want to thank you all for posting your thought about this question i posted months ago and going 5 pages strong in opinions.
We have read them all and can't wait till we will become villagers.
;D
Larry & Beverly

[Taltarzac]

I just think Musician wanted to stir the waters. He really can't be that ignorant. Can he? :dontknow: I personally love it here and agree with all the others. But to each his own. We all create our own realities and I don't think Musician has a very pleasant one. His tone in his last posting was, indeed, rude. There are some people that just aren't happy wherever they are or whatever they're doing. I have a cousin like that and I call her Dinah the Whinah. I believe she's actually addicted to being miserable. Not me! Life is too short! Love all you fellow TV'ers. ;D


Maybe, he or she should read a few months' worth of stories from the Villages Daily Sun. :joke:

[beartrack1]

I personally do not like this thread. Not because it's wrong in anyway, you know the argument, freedom of speech etc. It's just that my wife and I have spent a lot of time and effort both at TV and doing research. We just love the place and find it very difficult to read negative comments while we are dying to move there and can not, because we just have to wait until we can sell our current home. It just makes me wonder, would the people that write negatively about your nearly perfect community with so many loving and happy people, would they be happy living anywhere ?

[Russ_Boston]

I think Beartrack is right on target. I personally like to read everything because I'm very aware that some people hate anything. But there have been many comments that will make me 'aware' of something as i buy. I don't think anyone who was really interested in TV (and who has visited already) would think differently based on anything on this thread.

My 2cs - Russ

[ConeyIsBabe]

I call myself an Outsider, a Newbie, and a Wannabee and I LOVE THIS THREAD ! I am in my "research mode" and am trying to evaluate TV prior to my first visit and don't know when that will be.

I find nothing wrong with anyone expressing their negative opinion, in fact those opinions might be my opinions also. Perhaps TV would be the best thing ever to happen in my life, if I moved there. OR, perhaps it would not be to my liking. Since my real estate investment will be the most important investment to me, I want to get it right.

THANK YOU ALL FOR contributing to this post and let's hear more !!!!!

[golfnut]

I agree with CIB, negative as well as positive comments are healthy, if you don't like a particular thread, ignore it, everyone sees things from a different point of view, doesn't make it right or wrong, just their perspective.

[The Great Fumar]

In my humble opinion , Beartrack does have a point , but
Russ , Coney and Golfnut also have a good point. It does make for some interesting reading ......Some folks like to find a weak spot somewhere and harp on it to make themselves heard , but all in all there have been some great points on this thread.......
fumar

[JohnnyM]

Nothing to hate in TV. Sixty thousand people, not many complaints. Don't forget everyone who partakes in this forum is a different personality in many respects. The greater majority of us can control our emotions and sound bites; others cannot. The ones that cannot will slowly disappear in the night and find another forum, someplace, somewhere to harass. Constructive criticism is always welcome but when it becomes a nasty and/or childish criticism lines have to be drawn, not so much by the Administrators but by the TOTV forum members. JohnnyM

[beartrack1]

Thanks Johnny, your reply says it all. You know we have friends and family living in community's all over Florida and it is the same story everywhere we go. A vast majority of the residents love where they are living and a small very vocal group just complain and complain and complain. We have spent months in TV, in rentals as well as one and two day visits at all times of the year. Each time we visit we encounter more nice people and we found it easy to make friends, sure we have met some complainers but, we expected that. It has been my experience after living in Florida for 20 years, that TV is the best run community That we have ever seen, as well as having more amenities then any other community that we know of. What I guess I'll never understand is why there is anyone that lives in TV that wouldn't agree that you lucky folks have found the best possible place to retire, bar none. I envy you all and "sorry", but I still find it difficult to read negative comments about a place that we are dying to live in. We just lowered the price, hoping to be with you all, sooner, rather then later.

[TVQueen]

Why is everybody so shocked and outraged over a negative opinion -- Read the question -- EVERYBODY SEEMS TO LOVE THE VILLAGES, i WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT YOU HATE BESIDE

That is asking for negative opinion. It's not an insult on the people who have made a decision to live in TV. Sounds to me like some protest too much !! :)

[redwitch]

I don't mind reading about negative things regarding TV. TV is truly an adult Disneyland and a great place to live. Heck, I'll even agree that at times it is paradise. However, even Eden had a snake. So, TV ain't perfect but it's dang close.

I do mind reading about mindless drivel. Knowing that golf cart tunnels are dangerous is a good thing. Understanding that twice a year we're going to be bugged by lovebugs is a thing worth noting. If you can't tolerate lizards, insects in general or humidity, TV obviously isn't the place for you. Personally, I'm terrified of lightning storms and every time we have one I question my sanity in living here (then the storm quits and I come to my senses). However, silly comments that houses will fall down in the rain, even if an admitted exaggeration, is an irritation and deserve to be treated as such.

[Russ_Boston]

I could not have drawn the words out of my brain that would sound any better than RED just stated.

There is a big difference between constructive negative comments that all of us (especially wannabes) can use and obvious viral comments. I would think the only opinions that would matter to me would be from current or former TV'ers. What can us outsiders say about what we hate in TV? We've never lived there.

[SteveFromNY]

I could not have drawn the words out of my brain that would sound any better than RED just stated.

There is a big difference between constructive negative comments that all of us (especially wannabes) can use and obvious viral comments. I would think the only opinions that would matter to me would be from current or former TV'ers. What can us outsiders say about what we hate in TV? We've never lived there.


Russ & Red - I Agree :agree:

That said, however, in all my experience, I've met very few people who would let knowledge influence an opinion!! Those who do are rare!

[The Great Fumar]

The most fun I had on this thread is CHELSEA24 telling us about DINAH THE WHINAH.........Broke me right up....
nice going chels......spilled coke on my keyboard....

doesn't take much to amuse fumar.... ;D ;D ;D

[diskman]

??? Well when I made this posting many months ago I erred.
This question should have been directed to people who already own and live in TV.

They are the only opinions my wife and I care about. Hoping to be more completely prepared once we hit that magic number and can retire. We have already decided it will be in TV. On our visits we only met people who loved TV and thought there must be something that displease's people and so the reason for our original question. :) :)

Larry & Bev

[Barefoot]

I do live in TV .... but I am in the first flush of love. We bought last April and have only lived here since October ... four short months!! Every day I wake up and thank the Divine Goddess that I am privileged to here.

You know what? You can always find something to bitch about!! But, I absolutely defy you to find anywhere more apppealing and affordable than TV.

Loving it in the Villages lovehorse lovehorse lovehorse

[MMC24]

Except for the hot and humid summers, we love it here. If the year round weather was like it is in Feb & March than TV would be paradise.

[diskman]

MMC24 you have hit on my one fear. We moved from N Y 13 years ago to Southern Calif for many reasons mainly employment. my secondary reason was humidity.

I love so much what I see in the Villages. My wife of 23 years lived in the Vero Beach area for 12 years in her first life and can't believe I want to move to Florida. She also is in love with what we see & read we visited last Feb after the tornado hit. As of right now we feel we will retire in TV after we do a months rental in a summer month.I think since i will be retired and not have to work in the humidity that we can deal with it.
We have 4 years to fret about it. Thanks for your input :dontknow: :bigthumbsup:
Larry & Bev

[REDCART]

Diskman, Last summer was one of the hottest in our experience. Others have been quite tolerable. If you happen to have visited last July, you would have made a bad call. George

[diskman]

we live in Southern Calif now.
2 grandkids in Florida, 2 in N Y The 1 in Calif will move to east coast when we do.
Usual story Grand Kids Rule neeed to be near them because they help keep you young! :bigthumbsup: :bigthumbsup:

[21345]

Katie Belle's is to easy for non Villagers to get in. The checker at the doorshould check all and if people don't have ID or their guest passes they should not be let in. Just maybe there will be room for us without Dancing Bob or the Robotman or our friends from up and down 441/27.

[diskman]

bump

[Muncle]

I just reread this entire thread. It was quite interesting and brought to mind several other discussions on individual topics (roundabouts, curbing dogs, etc) we're held in here. But one thought jumped out at me and I have to know. Was Musician at the Crispers get-together today???

[villages07]

Muncle....

No Musician....but lots of chatterers

[graciegirl]

I am trying so hard not to be pulled in. You are all so nice, bright, kind, articulate, and ..........Happy. My husband wants to move there. We are coming for an information gathering visit next month. Thanks for letting me listen in. GracieGirl.

[redwitch]

Gracie, if you responded, it's too late. We already sucked you in. Now when you come to TV itself, you'll have a hard time not falling in love with it. Hope you enjoy your visit.

[nONIE]

Gracie, dont fight so hard against the inevitable. You will love it here!

[ocalasmith]

I realise every dog owner feels as though their animal is the most precious thing in the world and I appreciate that.
The problem is they do not realise that there are many of use that are scared to death of dogs and would like you to keep your dog as far away from me as possible. I will cross the street but dog owners should not feel they have the right to follow me because their dog is leading them toward me, I crossed the street to get away.

So my problem with TV is dog owners!

[ocalasmith]

Dogs
I realise every dog owner feels as though their animal is the most precious thing in the world and I appreciate and respect that, I am deathly afraid of dogs

I like to walk and when a dog owner allows their dog to invade my space when I cross the street to avoid them they should not follow because their dog wants to lick a person, not me,please.

I know every dog owner wants to parade their dog around the square, so, we do not go to the square to avoid dogs.

Over a quarter of a million people are bit by dogs each year in Florida and less then 2000 are bit by snakes you figure it out. I have a right to be able to go to the square without dogs.

TV should put one of the two squares off limits to dogs.

[Hyacinth Bucket]

Graciegirl,

I read what you wrote very quickly,

"You are all so nice, bright, kind, articulate, and ..........Happy. My husband wants to move there. We are coming for an information gathering visit next month. Thanks for letting me listen in. GracieGirl."

And I thought, gee she knows us extremely well and I do not recall meeting her, then I reread what you wrote.

You will fit in perfectly. Looking forward to having you join the "chat pack".

Hyacinth Bucket

[JohnnyM]

Graciegirl you are now one of TOTV peeps. You have arrived in a matter of words. Enjoy, ask questions and begin to live your long awaited dream life. JohnnyM

[Rokinronda]

Katie Belle's is to easy for non Villagers to get in. The checker at the doorshould check all and if people don't have ID or their guest passes they should not be let in. Just maybe there will be room for us without Dancing Bob or the Robotman or our friends from up and down 441/27.
Suggestion, get there early(5pm, or after 9pm). A guest pass is not required, you just need to be with a Villager. We know Dancin Bob does not live here but comes in as a guest of a Villager. We have never seen robotman in KB's, not that we're there every night, but we do see him often on the square. Some of the folks that come in KB's work in the Villages and it is supposedly allowed. I know of some who LIVED here, and no longer do, but use their old ID to get in. I am always asked for my ID, even after 3+ years. I think a new date sticker with the current year should be given to residents EVERY YEAR to avoid old passes being used. Mine says 2004, and if 2008 was the only acceptable ID, many EX Villagers would lose that ability. Just a thought. I love KB's and have personally seen people turned away for not having a resident ID. Because of its popularity, they should build another. If there is not enough business in summer, it could be seasonal. (IMHO I think it is much too hot for outside entertainment in summer, inside entertainment is my personal preference). I support KB's year round (I eat, drink and TIP well) and know I must get there very early some nights to get a seat. Lastly, when it is extremely crowded please no swing dancing, or jitter bug. I stay in my square foot area and am tired of being knocked around and stepped on by show offs that need a quarter of the dance floor and ignorently ignore that they slammed into me! I'm sorry, but I love when the snowflakes leave! Everything is much quieter, happier, less lines and no complaints. ;D

[Barefoot]

I am deathly afraid of dogs. I have a right to be able to go to the square without dogs.
TV should put one of the two squares off limits to dogs.

Sorry Ocalasmith, don't agree with your suggestion! doh

I don't like gas golf carts. Does that mean they should be banned from any tunnel I might happen to want to use?

[redwitch]

Ocalasmith, you have my sympathies. Being afraid of something for whatever reason is no fun. Being fearful of something most love is difficult and frustrating. However, to ask that something be prohibited because of that fear is not fair nor reasonable. I'm deadly allergic to bee stings. If I see a bee, I have the urge to run fast and far. Even so, I would never dream of asking that all beehives be destroyed, the honey farms in or near TV be banned. I accept the risk when I'm out and about and refuse to let my fear stop me from having fun. Heck, I even go on picnics and camping in places where the wasp traps are very prevalent.

While I've seen many dogs at the Squares, I have only seen one or two come up to strangers without an invitation. Most dog owners are responsible and keep their dogs on a tight lead in public. I'm sure if you were to ask a dog owner to keep their dog away from you and explain (nicely) that you're terrified of dogs, they would be more than happy to accommodate you.

[chelsea24]

Ocalasmith, I have to agree with Barefoot and Red. We all have our fears. I'm afraid of water, so should all the swimming pools go? It's really up to the owners to be aware and you have to make them aware of your fear. I'm sure they will accommodate. I personally love dogs and really feel sorry for you. I'm not being sarcastic. They are so full of personality and love, I feel bad that you're missing that joy.

[chuckinca]

Ocalasmith:

Need more info on the 2000 snake bites - seems like maybe more then I want to be associated with. How many snake bites in Sumter county per year or per day?

[diskman]

:hot: :2excited: :beer3: :clap2: :2cool: 040 024 wav
WOW! over 10,000 views on this topic I posted several months ago.
Maybe the administrators want to give me 3 more stars now!

This was a great topic that I started which, i believe by now has covered every issue imaginable. thanks to you all for some great topic's

Larry & Bev

[redwitch]

lol Jim, oops, sorry Chuck. I think the reference to snake bites is nationwide, not local. Ditto dog bites.

[diskman]

bump

[nONIE]

Hate is a strong word. The only thing I hate about the Villages is Leaving them. I think that says it all!

[mfp509]

I wouldn't buy a villa close to Mulberry Rec center because of the pickleball noise. I can hear it at my house but barely - however I think if I was living in the Forsyth villas it would drive me crazy.

I'm extremely happy here - can't say anymore. :)

[Sidney Lanier]

The first house we had ever considered in TV was at the end of Hialeah Drive off Belvedere Blvd., pricey for a Patio Villa because it was an end unit with lots of privacy (back wall against the high school fields), with a larger lot than most and wonderful landscaping. Considering we were coming as snowbirds, we thought a Patio Villa would be the home affordable by us (though we ended up with a Designer for little more than that Patio Villa--a long story...). As with the Chatham train situation, we weren't seeing that house when the high school fields were being used.

The first time we attended a club meeting at Pimlico Rec Center further down Belvedere, when we walked out of there we could hear CLEARLY the screaming going on at an event at the school fields. That has to be a good half mile away! It's not that it was unruly or anything like that; it was a large crowd of young people having a good time at a school function. BUT IT WAS LOUD, even from that distance, which left us wondering how much LOUDER it was in those Patio Villas immediately adjacent to that wall. We later noticed the same thing one evening when we stopped to pick up the mail by the Belvedere pool. I wouldn't say that we would have "hated" it, but we sure would not have been thrilled living so close to it....

[diskman]

BUMP

[diskman]

bump it's been a while!

[mcelheny]

I was lied to big time 3 years ago when I bought on the spot but it was my fault. I trusted the Village real estate agent and I was naive. I just say this so all new buyers will do their research.

[njgranny]

Can you be more specific?

[Peggy]

I don't hate the Villages. I live in Calumet and I hear the trains -- but find the sound to be very soothing. I suppose the trains are a fine complaint since you can't "fix" them. (Consider this: trains are hundreds of times more fuel efficient than the huge trucks we dodge on the interstate) Still, if you have a problelm with the Villages, most of the time it is a problem you can work toward fixing. 8)

[mcelheny]

njgranny,
I will pm you :)

[nducette]

:joke:
Hi all,
I am new to this board but not new to TV. We have been there 7 times so I guess we have done our homework. We have traveled the entire state and there is nothing like TV. We will be full time in 2009 and can't wait.
The only thing I can say is that being there makes :bigthumbsup:. my heart happy.
I love the environment and like others have said.. the grouches can leave and all the happy people will remain.
Keep smiling everyone.....

[diskman]

bump

[firecracker05]

:bigthumbsup: :bigthumbsup: :bigthumbsup: I'm also from Northern Mn. Whoever said they were from there, I'm curious to know what city. Now, to answer the question of why we LOVE it here. Beside the year round climate, for us northerners' that was the #1 reason & secondly to be able to golf 365 days a year. Our surroundings are beautifully maintained. 95% of the villagers are very friendly, the golf carts & paths are one of a kind, & all the activities we can choose from, if anyone gets bored here, need I say anymore? I could go on & on about how great our earthly heaven is, but I think you get the picture. Sad to say though, I do have one complant & that is: the negative comments by the moaners & groaners. People like that won't be satisfied anywhere.

[njgranny]

Firecracker,

That's like people who go on a cruise and complain, complain, complain. To me, any cruise, going anywhere, at any time, any size is a GOOD cruise. :) :)

But, you still find the complainers. I just try to avoid them and be happy.

[graciegirl]

Firecracker,

That's like people who go on a cruise and complain, complain, complain. To me, any cruise, going anywhere, at any time, any size is a GOOD cruise. :) :)

But, you still find the complainers. I just try to avoid them and be happy.



Jan.

Sit here next to me. You're my kinda girl!

GracieGirl

[fizzbyn]

We've visited TV twice and last time we bought a house. We haven't lived in TV yet and my only concern is the humidity (and maybe the love bugs), but that didn't stop us because our living-in-Disneyland dream will come true. We visited last September and it was humid. People said the heat and humidity were unusually high for that time of year, but we found it tolerable. It was hot in the afternoon, but we just laid low and often went to the movies. The nights were beautiful... balmy. It reminded me of Hawaii. We grew up in Southern California where we just about froze to death at summer beach parties in Huntington Beach. We wore parkas and huddled around a fire pit. I'm sure Annette and Frankie got bundled up and given hot chocolate after each night scene.

[diskman]

carizona5 We loved reading your posting as I am the one who started topic string 12,121 hits ago and we presently live in southern california. Have been wondering about the humidity question even though we have already decided we will be purchasing a courtyard villa sometime in the next 41 months and counting.
Larry & Bev ;) :bigthumbsup: :hot: :2excited: :2cool: 040

[Russ_Boston]

Sounds like my timeframe Diskman. It's basically torture to talk to my new TV friends through this forum while I sit in unseasonably cold weather up here in MA. It's almost June and we have a freeze warning for tonight.

[diskman]

bump

[graciegirl]

I have finally found something I hate. I hate when these forums are talked to death and rehashed and picked apart until we start fighting and being mean and sarcastic and ugly.

My husband always says that is getting into a :edit: contest and he is right. No body wins, and really no one loses, we all just look like idiots.

[nONIE]

Gracie Girl,

I couldnt agree more, you are so right. I know i got a little carried away about the unruly kids post, thats not like me at all. It probably wont happen again for another 10 years.

I wish I could meet you too, I really enjoy reading your posts!
The :edit: posts make me crazy!!

[mcelheny]

I hate that all the pools are outdoors.(I know the wellness ceter has one but it is expensive.) I have white skin and it would be nice for some covered or indoor pools.

[diskman]

:agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree:
YES 100% even just one in spanish springs area and one in LSL area
I have been thinking about this myself. Seems strange that none exist anywhere?
:dontknow:

[Barefoot]

Marti, that is a very interesting idea, to have some covered pools. My dermatologist has been lecturing me about staying out of the sun. Hard to do if you want to swim every day. Even with a hat and sun block, I still get a lot of sun.

[Hyacinth Bucket]

:agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: with what you wrote Barefoot.

I hate that all the pools are outdoors.(I know the wellness ceter has one but it is expensive.) I have white skin and it would be nice for some covered or indoor pools.


mc people of all colors can get sunburn.


I hate that all the pools are outdoors.(I know the wellness ceter has one but it is expensive.) I have white skin and it would be nice for some covered or indoor pools.

HB

[mcelheny]

Good point!!I wasn't making any racist comment . My point is my skin is very senstive to sun and I have already had skin cancer so I have to be very careful. This is a doctor thing...not a racist thing.

[Hyacinth Bucket]

Hi mc, I definitely knew it WAS NOT a racist remark. I did not take it that way nor did I read it that way. I just wanted to encompass all of us.

My hubby had malignant melanoma - Clarks Level 3 so I know what you mean about the dangers of the sun.

HB

[Vic]

what I don't like is the people who use the post offices for their dogs dumping ground. I also don't like the medical situation here. Hard to understand the Dr.s here. I had to get three Dr's before one finally lasted long enough to stay here.

Alos do not like dogs walking around squares using every object to urinate on.

I am not a dog hater if you must know I just respect other people right to be not near them if they prefer not to be around dogs.

The golf cart trails on the north side.

Yes I have lived here many years and you wanted the things I disliked so you got them. Now don't criticize them because you don't agree with them.

[Russ_Boston]

Hard to criticize Vic - They seem like legit gripes to me assuming their veracity.

[redwitch]

I don't mind the dogs using the PO areas for their potties so long as the owners pick up after them. I know that is the case at my post office. Barring one or two, everything is nicely picked up. Given a choice between the PO greens and my yard, I much prefer they use the post office and, around here, there's really nothing else that is close enough for short walks, which is all some dogs and owners can manage.

No argument about the north end golf cart paths -- they are narrow and that's scary at times. To make it worse, some the bushes are right up to the paths to make it even a bit more harrowing when you're driving along and someone is coming the opposite direction.

I haven't the urination issues at the squares. I'm sure some dogs do that -- it's the nature of their beast. Most however, seem to just walk the squares with their masters and get petted. They rarely stop to hoist a leg. Guess the dogs I've seen are too busy getting those pets and giving those kisses to bother with something so mundane is marking their territory.

BTW -- covered pools or at least some area of the pool being covered would be nice. As it is, I can't go near a pool during the daytime and most close at sunset or earlier.

[KILLICKB]

After 4 years in the Villages I still haven't learnt to HATE anything but some people do make you wonder what planet they came from originally and why they have to bring their baggage from lives past to this community. I would have thought this was the perfect place to make a new start and be mellow!! Didn't we all fight City Hall in our previous lives? Such will it always be I guess. My major peeve is how abused Lake Sumter is becoming and how most nights it seems like any State Fairgrounds instead of a Downtown Square. I know that it has had to suck up the tremendous growth in the Villages but seems it has also become the defacto scource of entertainment for all who live outside the gates. It is just plain overcrowded with people and traffic both circling endlessly looking for a seat/parking spot. It also seems that every available piece of concrete or grass within 100 yards of the square proper is now used to park golf carts and/or cars. Is it possible that we are beginning to get on the backside of the ammenities keeping up with the population? Roll on build out when we be large enough to govern ourselves, support the infastructure and then make it a real gated community --- of course my kids might be the beneficiary, not me!!

[diskman]

With all the complaining I have read this week,
I thought it was time for a new bump

[renielarson]

I love it here!

I don't find the squares too crowded although finding parking can sometimes be an adventure in itself.

I enjoy watching people and I can't tell who is from TV and who is not.

I have no complaints about the lifestyle.

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[diskman]

Talzarac,
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what your posting means!

[Yoda]

Thank all of you for the information. My wife and I will be coming down to our second visit to TV next month. Essentially we are fact-finding and trying to gather information. This thread has been very helpful.

Thank you

[Lucko]

Most houses are still at a discount, come on down before housing recovers and you have to get in line to overpay. You will love The Villages if you just realize that you are also buying into a fantastic lifestyle. Part time or full time, it's great !

[graciegirl]

:agree::agree::agree:

Kahuna is so correct yet again!

I love the administrators of TOTV but I am NOT crazy about the new format and It has to be my virtual Villages until we get down there next month.

[Fourpar]

Diskman,

I recently asked the same question of a golfer I was paired with. His answer was short and sweet:
"The best thing is that it is owned by one family and they can do whatever they want. The worst thing is that it is owned by one family and they can do what they want."
I have to agree with him, but will add that I wouldn't live anywhere else!