What religions are people in the Villages?

[Taltarzac]

There are a lot of churches of various denominations in the Villages. Wondering what religion(s) TOTV people have. :dontknow: I was raised a Lutheran but also went to various other kinds of churches to see what they were like. I had minored in Religious Studies at the University of Nevada, Reno while getting my dual BAs in Philosophy and History. (1980/1981) I know minoring in religion in a minor league Sin City like Reno, Nevada is ironic. People probably get more religious when they are losing all their money in the casinos. :bow:

[chuckster]

personally, I don't see a reason for such a poll. I also disagree with the poll regarding Hillary supposedly done at Spanish Springs by an administrator of this chat line. I assume that most of us are the same age and by now are set in our political views. So to stir up a hornets nest regarding political affiliations/beliefs is inappropriate for a chat line that bills itself as an informative site to research the villages as regards housing, services, available rec. facilities.

Can't we omit intense discussions of religion and politics.

We are here in retirement to make new friends, enjoy ourselves and just have fun. Please omit the religion/politics discussions. This will only lead to separation not a joining together of us all.

[superecho]

Chuckster, you have made the best comment I have read yet!

[Hancle704]

Does the choice of OTHER on your list include Golfers? I note that many of them are out on the courses on Sunday praying as they shout, "Oh God"
:dontknow: :dontknow: :dontknow:

[Barefoot]

Can't we omit intense discussions of religion and politics. We are here in retirement to make new friends, enjoy ourselves and just have fun. Please omit the religion/politics discussions. This will only lead to separation not a joining together of us all.


Hey, I think we are having fun on TOTV, I know I am. ;D I think it is great to have a diverse range of subjects and nothing "forbidden". Free speech and all that. I think the political discussions are extremely interesting .. I don't think we're going to start disliking people because of their religious or political viewpoints. I look at all poll results (thanks Taltarzac) with interest, be they about number of pets, favourite musical groups or religion.

[gfmucci]

The neat thing about a forum of this nature is that it has readily discernable categories of topics with clear titles. The reader can choose to avoid or partake any of these categories. He or she need not get engaged in or troubled by the comments of others on topics that may cause blood pressure to rise. They are easily avoided by having the self control not to click on the topic. I clicked on this "Relgion" topic because I was interested in "What religions are people in the Villages." It turns out that the sample is too small to really tell for sure, except that most are probably Catholic and Protestant. Gee, a cross-section of America! ;D

[nONIE]

I would never judge anyone according to their political or religious viewpoint. It is a personal choice, (the great advantage of living in this country). However I did find the poll interesting and completely agree with barefoot. Great post barefoot :bigthumbsup:

[JohnZ]

I find open discussion about politics not only interesting, but beneficial as well. It is our duty to question the decisions of those in office and to evaluate, through open discourse, those who we would have lead us. If we remain silent on the political and social issues of the day, regardless of the reason, we would be inviting dangerous times upon us. If you don't like the program....change the channel....all it takes is a single click.

I also enjoy stimpulating discussions on philosophy, metaphysics, contemporary organized religions and non-organized belief systems, mysticism, agnostic or athiestic arguments, ancient religions.....heck, you name it. But this forum has not evolved to that level....but I'm hoping. Those with closed minds are usually uninformed or worse...misinformed.

Good idea posting the poll Taltarzac. :bigthumbsup:

[punkpup]

Thanx Taltarzac,

By the way I am a Quaker, but then again you knew that Tal lol

I for one am for lots of discussion about varied topics. "A mind is like a parachute, it only works when open" Author Unknown, (by me at least lol)


I find open discussion about politics not only interesting, but beneficial as well. It is our duty to question the decisions of those in office and to evaluate, through open discourse, those who we would have lead us. If we remain silent on the political and social issues of the day, regardless of the reason, we would be inviting dangerous times upon us. If you don't like the program....change the channel....all it takes is a single click.

I also enjoy stimulating discussions on philosophy, metaphysics, contemporary organized religions and non-organized belief systems, mysticism, agnostic or atheistic arguments, ancient religions.....heck, you name it. But this forum has not evolved to that level....but I'm hoping. Those with closed minds are usually uninformed or worse...misinformed.

Good idea posting the poll Taltarzac. :bigthumbsup:





The neat thing about a forum of this nature is that it has readily discernable categories of topics with clear titles. The reader can choose to avoid or partake any of these categories. He or she need not get engaged in or troubled by the comments of others on topics that may cause blood pressure to rise. They are easily avoided by having the self control not to click on the topic. I clicked on this "Religion" topic because I was interested in "What religions are people in the Villages." It turns out that the sample is too small to really tell for sure, except that most are probably Catholic and Protestant. Gee, a cross-section of America! ;D

[diskman]

Taltarzac!
some people have thanked you for posting this poll!
I AM GREATLY DISTURBED BY THE FACT THAT ONE OF THE RELIGIONS IN THE LIST IS IN
BOLDTYPE.
What is your agenda for this?
Larry >:(

[another Linda]

Taltarzac!
some people have thanked you for posting this poll!
I AM GREATLY DISTURBED BY THE FACT THAT ONE OF THE RELIGIONS IN THE LIST IS IN
BOLDTYPE.
What is your agenda for this?
Larry >:(

Isn't it just the software that makes the most frequent response bold?

[jjdees]

Turn him over to the Sudanese!

[Avista]

Great Poll, but would have like to seen a breakdown of Protestants.

[Taltarzac]

Great Poll, but would have like to seen a breakdown of Protestants.


There are too many versions of Protestants I believe to fit in a poll. :joke:

[diskman]

Most frequent response was Catholic but, it is not bold? :dontknow:
larry

[Muncle]

Taltarzac!
some people have thanked you for posting this poll!
I AM GREATLY DISTURBED BY THE FACT THAT ONE OF THE RELIGIONS IN THE LIST IS IN
BOLDTYPE.
What is your agenda for this?
Larry >:(



The one you select is shown in Bold Type, albeit not in all caps.

[another Linda]

The one you select is shown in Bold Type, albeit not in all caps.


Duh. I get it.

[diskman]

NO, that is not it I have not made any choice as I do not live in the villages at this time
larry

[jtdraig]

You need to add Pantheist to the mix.

[Taltarzac]

You need to add Pantheist to the mix.


What is a Pantheist? There is a guy at the Doggie Doo Run Run would seemed to have this set of beliefs and he tried to explain in to me but all I could really think is... hmmmmmmmmm. :joke: He seemed to say that God was in all things??

I added "Pantheist" to the poll.

[Taltarzac]

Taltarzac!
some people have thanked you for posting this poll!
I AM GREATLY DISTURBED BY THE FACT THAT ONE OF THE RELIGIONS IN THE LIST IS IN
BOLDTYPE.
What is your agenda for this?
Larry >:(


I have no control over what the computer program boldfaces. I thought that just showed what I clicked on but that this was different with everyone who has made a click on something. I do not know what it would do if no "religion" had been clicked on.

I have no agenda of trying to convert people to my religion. I did click on Protestant for my own religion and had thought it just showed me what I had clicked on? :dontknow:

[Barefoot]

Taltarzac! Some people have thanked you for posting this poll! I AM GREATLY DISTURBED BY THE FACT THAT ONE OF THE RELIGIONS IN THE LIST IS IN
BOLDTYPE. What is your agenda for this? Larry >:(

Diskman, I think anyone who has read Tal's 500+ posts 024 would agree that this survey doesn't have any hidden agenda. He is just providing a survey which many of us find interesting. :clap2:

[Taltarzac]

Diskman, I think anyone who has read Tal's 500+ posts 024 would agree that this survey doesn't have any hidden agenda. He is just providing a survey which many of us find interesting. :clap2:


I do have an agenda with respect to my fight for victims' rights which I have mentioned in some posts on TOTV but the various polls and most of my almost 700 messages on TOTV have absolutely nothing to do with this struggle.

As to my agenda, I did kind of get ****ed off my how much the media talks about the December 5, 2007 shooter in Omaha rather than focusing on the victims. They should be the main story not some cowardly :edit: who wants to be famous by piling up innocent bodies.

I have used the numbers 2 2 4 and 6 1 3 to tell people about why I have been working on this so long now about 17 years even though my interest in this stems from events starting on February 24, 1976 (2 -24) in Reno, Nevada. It is merely a co-incidence that John 3:16 is also a very important part of the core beliefs in Christianity.

I had tried to get public health people interested in empowering victims through providing access to practical information accessible through libraries after I was subject 6 1 3 in a 17 week study at the Medical School at the University of CA San Francisco in late 1992-1993.

I sent probably 3 million e-mails out over the past nine years trying to improve what's out there accessible over the Internet and elsewhere for survivors of crimes but so far have not had a significant impact on many libraries' holdings in the US. Got to some of them with my message but not that many.

I have tried to get churches and other religious organizations; Hollywood; educational associations; sports leaders, and the like interested in this cause too again using these two numbers (2 2 4 and 6 1 3) to describe why this cause is important.

[JohnZ]

What's significant about Feb 24, 1976, Reno?

[diskman]

My daughters favorite line "whatever"

[Taltarzac]

What's significant about Feb 24, 1976, Reno?


Date (2-24-1976) of a murder of a young woman near the University of Nevada, Reno campus-- Michelle Mitchell-- who was the daughter of two English teachers from two different Reno area high schools. The murder was solved in 1979 after one of the conspirators bragged to his cellmate in jail in Louisiana about getting away with this murder. These conspirators had murdered Michelle Mitchell as a ploy to try to collect on some kind of insurance interest they had had on a casino employee they had murdered around the same day of February 24. They wanted to make it appear a Ted Bundy like serial killer was in the Reno-Sparks community and had just picked Michelle Mitchell at random on the University of Nevada, Reno campus. She was a nursing student there.

This is a well known murder to the people of this area because it was in the news so often from February 25, 1976 through at least 1985. Appeals and the like. It was again not solved until 1979.

Mills Lane was one of the prosecutors in this case. He was also the TV judge and the boxing referee for the Tyson/Holyfeld ear biting match. He had in addition been a bridge partner of my parents before 1976.

I was a teacher's pet of the mother of Michelle Mitchell at Earl Wooster High School. I graduated high school in 3 years in 1976.

I went back to Reno, Nevada in the Summer of 1989 having just graduated from the U of MN Law School in May 1989 for a law librarian convention where I was introduced as the cataloger of about 2600 ? computer files on Westlaw. This was a national project to make library users able to see what was WESTLAW from a library catalog. The project failed soon after 1991 because of how quickly WESTLAW changes.

[JohnZ]

Thanks T. And I'm curious about your comment regarding 3:16 as well.

[Taltarzac]

Thanks T. And I'm curious about your comment regarding 3:16 as well.


In 1991, the U of MN Law Library pushed my interest in doing something about a niche I had seen in libraries for survivors of crimes back on me-- i.e. you need mental health counseling for bringing this up. Or something like that.

I had tried to get the UC San Francisco Medical School researchers interested in this cause. I was subject 6 1 3 in a study they had had on stress on the unemployed. The study was in late 1992-1993.

The annual law librarian convention in 1992-- which I went to but was pretty much just laughed at-- was in San Francisco, CA in the Summer of 1992.

The UC SF researcher had told me I had a good cause. She said that after the research was done though I suppose not to affect the various tests they were doing on chemicals in my blood over the 17 weeks of I so I was in this study in late 1992-1993.

[JohnZ]

T, thanks. I presume that you may be referring to PTSD and the subsequent effect of biochemical changes on neuroanatomy with concurrent influences on long-term emotional memory. A pet project of mine (long ago) focused on studying how moderate stressors effect cortisol/norephinephrine ratios in blood plasma and correlated to disturbances in individual circadian rhythms, inter alia.

I'm curious about the legal aspect to which you allude. Feel free to email me as we have strayed way off topic.

[Hyacinth Bucket]

Barefoot, :agree: with what you wrote.

These threads make the forum more interesting.

HB

[JohnZ]

There are over 600 topic views and about 40 votes counted on this poll. Is it so difficult to vote on this poll or other polls?

[Taltarzac]

T, thanks. I presume that you may be referring to PTSD and the subsequent effect of biochemical changes on neuroanatomy with concurrent influences on long-term emotional memory. A pet project of mine (long ago) focused on studying how moderate stressors effect cortisol/norephinephrine ratios in blood plasma and correlated to disturbances in individual circadian rhythyms, inter alia.

I'm curious about the legal aspect to which you allude. Feel free to email me as we have strayed way off topic.


I am not sure what the 1992-1993 UCSF study was actual on as to which chemicals were being tested. From the papers I got from the study, it looks like they were measuring white blood cells -- CD4 (helper/inducer) T cells, CD8 (suppressor/cytotoxic) T cells, b cells, NK cells-- in my blood. The study was by Dr. Frances Cohen, Dr. Margaret Kemeny, Dr. Leonard Zegans, Dr. Kathleen Kearney, and Wendy Berland.

The thrust of the study seems to be how well NK cells were functioning???

If you can use WESTLAW, the cases involving the conspirators and stuff should come up if you use the search term Michelle Mitchell.

I threw away the Reno newspaper articles and my various copies of these cases a long time ago.

[JohnZ]

Interesting. NK cells are usually associated with cytokines and immune response to microbial insults i.e. spec. viral infections. There is a lot of research going on with regard to the elevation of specific cytokines and the abatement of autism in children during febrile episodes. There appears to be a nexus. But, I don't see the nexus between cytokine production, NK cell activation and the disorders experienced by victims of crime vis-a-vis PTSD. My daughter did her doctoral dissertation on the crystallization and characterization of the molecular structure of specific cytokine protein structures. I might touch base with her next time we speak.

Weird talk for a poll on religion.

[Taltarzac]

Interesting. NK cells are usually associated with cytokines and immune response to microbial insults i.e. spec. viral infections. There is a lot of research going on with regard to the elevation of specific cytokines and the abatement of autism in children during febrile episodes. There appears to be a nexus. But, I don't see the nexus between cytokine production, NK cell activation and the disorders experienced by victims of crime vis-a-vis PTSD. My daughter did her doctoral dissertation on the crystallization and characterization of the molecular structure of specific cytokine protein structures. I might touch base with her next time we speak.

Weird talk for a poll on religion.


I was just one of what I gather many subjects. I was subject 613 out of probably thousands or so of people in this USCF Medical School study. At the time, the study had nothing to do with victims of crime just on stress levels and such on the unemployed. They could have become unemployed for any number of reasons.

I used 6 1 3 just to note that a researcher at UCSF Medical School had told me that I had had a good cause in my correspondence-- then snail mail-- with many victims organizations I was writing from a list of 8000 or so such groups who were in the 1991 Directory of Victim Assistance Programs and Resources put out by the National Organization for Victim Assistance (NOVA). Some of these were church affiliated as it seems that in the early days of the victim rights movement-- churches and other religious organizations were the only place that survivors of crimes could turn. Of course, in this snail mail I also used 2 2 4 because I had been checking libraries from February 1976 onward off and on looking for materials that would help survivors and victims of crime. Did not find much of anything actually until I ordered the 1991 NOVA Directory of Victim Assistance Programs and Resources. I checked a lot of libraries for this NOVA resource but very few libraries in 1992 and later had this resource.

There is a very important religious angle to this mainly because I had been trying to get these religious organizations involved with persuading libraries to meet the needs of people affected by crime. These were religious organizations of many faiths-- Jewish, Catholic, Baptist, Mormon, Muslim, Buddhist, Scientologist, etc.

[Barefoot]

There are over 600 topic views and about 40 votes counted on this poll. Is it so difficult to vote on this poll or other polls?

Johnz, there have now been 763 topic views and only 36 votes. I wonder why people are viewing and not voting?? :dontknow:
Oh I know ..... 500 of the views were from me checking back to see if more Wiccans had voted. ;)