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Bill Fox 08-22-2020 07:46 AM

One of the reasons people get all up in arms ....are due to the rumors that get started on sites like this. The developer will NEED the golf course as a draw for high end renters...They are not taking any of the golf course away.

JoMar 08-22-2020 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by vagent711 (Post 1818496)
Directly from leadership in the Districts Management office, after meetings with the Developer

And the persons name is??

CanTho 08-22-2020 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1819016)
NO GOLF COURSE IN THE VILLAGES HAS BEEN BUILT OVER. A Country Club restaurant building has been removed. Period. AMEN.

I do appreciate your comments they are well written, direct and better still you make your point crystal clear atleast to me.

But for the others take a guess % wise who just don't get it .... well fill in _______ I bet it's over 75%.

PS: This AM ( Saturday 8/22 ) about a dozen or so people were protesting in front of Panera Bread @Spanish Springs. A complete total waste of time.

Parking Garage or Apartments with all the modern convivences take your pick.

tophcfa 08-22-2020 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CanTho (Post 1821362)
I do appreciate your comments they are well written, direct and better still you make your point crystal clear atleast to me.

But for the others take a guess % wise who just don't get it .... well fill in _______ I bet it's over 75%.

PS: This AM ( Saturday 8/22 ) about a dozen or so people were protesting in front of Panera Bread @Spanish Springs. A complete total waste of time.

Parking Garage or Apartments with all the modern convivences take your pick.

I will pick the parking garage. I don't have to compete with parked cars for a t time at an executive golf course or a lane in a sports pool to swim laps in.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 08-23-2020 07:28 AM

Eventually, everything in the The Villages will be turned into apartments. There will be no rec centers, no pools, no golf courses, no tennis courts, no parks and no single family homes. The goal is to turn it into The Bronx of Florida. šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

Dana1963 08-23-2020 10:21 AM

They aren’t Country Clubs they are golf courses with restaurants! Some good some not so good.

Windguy 08-25-2020 06:08 AM

I’m rather shocked by the comments about the developer here. I thought the vast majority of people in TV were conservatives and that most (all?) conservatives were pro business. Here’s a company that has produced this wonderful community and they are constantly being criticized as being greedy. I don’t get it.

A business that doesn’t make money dies. It cannot afford to fund an operation that doesn’t return a profit. This country club and Katy Belle’s were here to make money for the developer and were, apparently, failing at that. They were not amenities here just for our enjoyment. The developer is not a government.

The ā€œgreedyā€ developer sees that there is a huge demand for living the active lifestyle we have here in TV and they are trying to meet it. The Boomers are retiring in huge numbers. Do you think the ā€œgreedyā€ developers should stop building houses and stop turning unprofitable land into land that can help meet that demand?

Not everyone can afford to own a large home on a lot. Not everyone wants to maintain a yard. Some of us are getting too old to deal with all the maintenance issues associated with living in a single-family home and would like to sell their houses to a younger family and move into a maintenance-free apartment. Do you want to force them to move out of TV where their friends are? Apartments are a benefit to the community. Yes, building them on top of a single-family neighborhood is unfortunate, but what else do you think they should do with that land that can actually turn a profit.

Instead of whining about this, how about making suggestions of things they can do with that land that is actually profitable.

jacksonbrown 08-25-2020 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Fox (Post 1821035)
One of the reasons people get all up in arms ....are due to the rumors that get started on sites like this. The developer will NEED the golf course as a draw for high end renters...They are not taking any of the golf course away.

Interesting first post.

Or, one might opine that the oligarchs engage in monopolistic practices in direct violation of the Interstate Commerce and Sherman Anti-trust Acts.

In any case, see Big Yellow Taxi sung by Joni Mitchell

listening for "They paved paradise to put up a parking lot".

Little did she know then, that she was singing about the Hacienda GC.

Buckeye Bob 08-27-2020 09:19 AM

And what about parking, the suggested pool available to all Villagers, and the restaurant? Really, can anyone imagine what else will go missing?[/QUOTE]

There is nothing in the agreement about a restaurant.

Buttrcp123 08-28-2020 10:32 AM

Was there something so wrong with Hacianda that it couldn't be fixed, but tore down?

graciegirl 08-28-2020 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Buttrcp123 (Post 1824243)
Was there something so wrong with Hacianda that it couldn't be fixed, but tore down?

I see a lot of posts from new posters and they are either stirring the pot or are negative which makes me wonder if we missed a meeting somewhere that was negative toward either The Villages, the CDD form of government or the developer or all of those things and that someone wants another "power" to lead here.

I feel a movement forming somewhere that feels very controversial and contrary to all of the good things I have seen for fourteen years owning here in The Villages.

I am a woman and I sense it and I smell it and I feel it.

mcmanirog 08-28-2020 11:46 AM

I think residents of The Villages should have "Protest Marches" daily in front of town square sales offices regarding what's happening to Hacienda Hills C.C., Katy Belles, and who knowes what else in the future. It would certainly blemish their image as "Florida's Friendliest Home Town". it's become quite clear they are not interested in what is happening, especially to residents north 466.

justjim 08-28-2020 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mcmanirog (Post 1824287)
I think residents of The Villages should have "Protest Marches" daily in front of town square sales offices regarding what's happening to Hacienda Hills C.C., Katy Belles, and who knowes what else in the future. It would certainly blemish their image as "Florida's Friendliest Home Town". it's become quite clear they are not interested in what is happening, especially to residents north 466.

Welcome to TOTV. I’m wondering how many negative posts regarding the proposed apartments and the Developer are from residents north of 466. Counting Orange Blossom there are five championship golf courses north of 466. Three are 27 holes and two are eighteen holes. That is a lot of championship golf. The owner and Developer is making decisions based on supply and demand which changes over time. Apparently there is a demand for apartments and less demand for championship golf and Country Club restaurants north of 466. Just a thought.

jacksonbrown 08-28-2020 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1824310)
Apparently there is a demand for apartments and less demand for championship golf and Country Club restaurants north of 466. Just a thought.

Apparent? And you know that how?

graciegirl 08-28-2020 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jacksonbrown (Post 1824439)
Apparent? And you know that how?

He knows that because he has been living here since 2012. He knows that because he is a very aware and up on things person. Usually after people live here for awhile they relax and see there is no hidden agenda. This is a mighty fine place to live. In eight years it may well be apparent to you.


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