Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 1822387)

I’m rather shocked by the comments about the developer here. I thought the vast majority of people in TV were conservatives and that most (all?) conservatives were pro business. Here’s a company that has produced this wonderful community and they are constantly being criticized as being greedy. I don’t get it.

A business that doesn’t make money dies. It cannot afford to fund an operation that doesn’t return a profit. This country club and Katy Belle’s were here to make money for the developer and were, apparently, failing at that. They were not amenities here just for our enjoyment. The developer is not a government.

The “greedy” developer sees that there is a huge demand for living the active lifestyle we have here in TV and they are trying to meet it. The Boomers are retiring in huge numbers. Do you think the “greedy” developers should stop building houses and stop turning unprofitable land into land that can help meet that demand?

Not everyone can afford to own a large home on a lot. Not everyone wants to maintain a yard. Some of us are getting too old to deal with all the maintenance issues associated with living in a single-family home and would like to sell their houses to a younger family and move into a maintenance-free apartment. Do you want to force them to move out of TV where their friends are? Apartments are a benefit to the community. Yes, building them on top of a single-family neighborhood is unfortunate, but what else do you think they should do with that land that can actually turn a profit.

Instead of whining about this, how about making suggestions of things they can do with that land that is actually profitable.

Originally Posted by Buckeye Bob (Post 1820061)

There is absolutely nothing in writing with the developer about a restaurant.

Originally Posted by rtrav711 (Post 1824697)

Many States required a "Property Report" to be prepared by Florida developers due to a 1985 Florida property case. The Villages ..."IN WRITING"...promised many things including the Hacienda CC to have a pool..pro shop..tennis courts..etc. They also laid out the development to HAVE ONLY homes and villas....no multi dwellings as proposed at Hacienda. They can be held accountable for their written commitments via "class action" suit that several groups are now investigating. There are also some Villages Our Hometown pamphlets produced around 2004 that contain similar information and promises. All in writing. Depreciated home values around HHCC can be substantial . Will be interesting to watch this play out.

Originally Posted by rtrav711 (Post 1824781)

States like NY, Ct , Mass., etc ....had required them for anyone considering buying property in Florida due to the Johnson v. Davis, 480 So.2d 625, 629 (Fla. 1985) case that involved a piece of Florida property. This is just info I've picked up from various people. Perhaps if you contact the controlling department in an individual State they will be able to get you a copy or advise you of where to locate it. Possibly...someone reading this note can better direct you..

Originally Posted by Nick Kelly (Post 1824828)

I'm a snow bird and behind the times.
One simple question.
Are they building apartments near Hacienda GC ?
Is it too complicated to be answered on this forum ?

Originally Posted by rtrav711 (Post 1824840)

I probably still have the report among other older stuff in the attic. Suggest if you need a copy, check with the State of Florida, they may have a copy..

Originally Posted by Patzy (Post 1827448)

the developer can take any championship course, county club, square, developer open/owned anytime they want.

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1827634)

I was wondering how long it would take before the residents that would be directly effected by the HH apartments started to push back. If this directly effected our property, I would not go away quietly. Everyone who owns, or is considering owning, a home in proximity to land owned by the developer (including all Championship golf courses), should be watching how this plays out very closely. It could happen to you!