Really?? Never heard that one.

I need to Phone a Friend.

Littleton shooters lived with both parents

Smoking cut in half in less than 20 years. As this relates to this thread, if we cut the mass shootings in half that would be 100 less mass shootings this year alone.

While we may not completely 100% solve a problem, that doesn't mean we shouldn't do what we can.

Friendly reminder, Hunter obtained the gun legally, and his wife threw it away. But other than that your post is accurate.

I’m sorry but that is way to simplistic which has now become an incredibly
Complex issue. Part
Of problem is that it is in our founding culture, add
To that, very little mental awareness or help. Yes licensing and restriction of AR rifles would help but we are so past that as a possible solution. Hope that our
Society finds more answers as now everyone expects it to
Become even more rampant. Certainly open carry with no
Restrictions cannot help the problem.

Growing up see war movies and cowboy movies and we all carried pocket knives and cap pistols.

How come the older generation has not killed itself off?

Do not know the answer but taken guns from law abiding citizens is not it.

And an 18 year old with no criminal background passed, and walked out with almost 400 rounds and 2 ar15s.

So, if I understand you, there are NO mentally unstable people in the rest of the world?

Absolutely!

Back in the day, the "day" in question being 1965, guns in school was nothing out of the ordinary. Gun safety training was offered at the high school I attended and on the range days seeing kids with guns on buses was totally normal. We had to store them at the Principal's office until range time but the ammo we just carried loose in our pockets. Oh--and no self-respecting lad at my school would EVER be caught without his trusty Barlow pocket knife. Saw a teacher borrow one from a kid one time when the pencil sharpener was on the fritz.

The three biggest behavior problems were talking in class, chewing gum and running in the halls. And even then, you didn't want your parents knowing. Mom and Dad had a talk with each of us at a young age: "never get in trouble at school and complain to us about it, because you'll be in twice as much trouble when you get home". And they meant it.

Oh--just about all of came from two married parents households, raised to take responsibility for our actions, respect hard work, and to take pride in academic accomplishments. One of the proudest days of my high-school life was when I was invited to join the National Honor Society. School was a privilege, not an obligation.

Guns were as deadly back then as they are now. But being raised in the right circumstances, with the right values, meant that we respected guns much as would respect any other tool. Blaming the guns for today's ills is on the same par as blaming the fork because you gained ten pounds. Want to fix the problem? Fix the FAMILY.

Questioning the "need" for a gun or guns is just another way of avoiding discussing the real problems behind the violence of today. It is on a par with questioning the "need" for so many pairs of shoes.

And yes. You can hunt with them. My grandson shot his first deer with one, a 10-point buck.

There are certainly steps we can take.

Texas has the right idea. Armed teachers may not be able to eradicate gun violence in their schools but it certainly can (and will) minimize the damage. It certainly beats all the public squalling about the guns.

School shootings seem to have two components..... The first is a weird kid who has been bullied. The second is semi automatic AR-15s, the mass shooters'' weapon of choice. Both those things are almost always present.

Schools have to pay more attention to bullying...... parents have to watch for signs that their kid is being bullied too, and parents need to teach their kids not to bully other kids.

As for the AR-15s..... this country is so obsessed with guns, and misinterpreting the 2nd amendment, I guess thoughts and prayers is the only action that will be taken.

The US has about 23% single parent families. And Great Britain has about 21%. The last school shooting in GB was in 1996, and a law was passed banning some guns and there has not been another since.

I am NOT saying banning guns would solve the problem here. I am saying there is a tendency to blame mental illness (people are mentally ill all love rate world), single parent homes, (we are not alone), Social Media (there entire world uses it), video games, (everyone plays them all over the world),violent movies (everyone watches them all over the world).

And yet, school shootings like this ONLY happen in the US. The single factor I have found consistently is we are the only country with 400 million guns in circulation.

What is an "assault" rifle?

A call to arms
 

i believe there are enough active reservists in each state who could be assigned to all schools to man a central entrance with metal detectors to protect the children
this is a low cost solution since the reservists are already being paid.
If you are waiting for gun control laws to be passed be prepared to wait decades if then.

US single parent homes - 23%, Great Britain single parent homes - 21%.

Care to guess how many school shootings GB has had since the last school shooting in 1996 after which they banned most guns?

Not really, in those days you knew there were life or death consequences. Today the whacko’s actually get away with murder. Just saying.

Please show me any post here that someone claimed GUN KILL PEOPLE. Absolutely, people kill people, and EVERY school mass killing involves the USE of guns. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Guns facilitate killing - you know, maybe that is why they are used in WARS. SO people can kill more people faster and easier.

That OLD NRA sloan is well worn out.

Oh those liberals with their rose-colored glasses (and blinders)
 

So, this dude thinks that taking away firearms from law-abiding citizens will make us safer? Does he/she think that the bad guys will turn in their guns? What a bunch of liberal/theoretical nonsense.

In the 1930s, Germany took away all firearms from citizens. How did that turn out?
Ditto Russia and North Korea.

Washington DC, Baltimore, MD and Chicago, IL have the most restrictive handgun laws in the country, yet among the very highest incidents of handgun violence.

If the bad guys breaking into my house know that I am certainly unarmed, who has the advantage?

C'mon man -- take off those liberal rose-colored glasses and THINK.

My thought is that GB for the most part has been able to retain the values that existed back in 1965.

I used to love cap pistols and firecrackers. Gone.

But, there seems to be more guns on television now than there were when I was growing up.

Why? If we put flags at half mast every time there was a death, then we would have to have them at half mast ALL the time. How about half mast when there is an abortion, car accident death, Covid death, etc.? Respect? PC? Ethics? Morality? Manners? All gone! Chipped away by banning prayer in public, law enforcement, common sense, and making excuses for plain old bad behavior.

Sorry, but PEOPLE are the problem, not guns. Take away the bad people and you have no problems. Take away the tools, and you still have the bad people and you still have the same problem, only a different method. When a child hits another child with a toy fire truck and you take the toy away from him, he will just find some other means to bully the other child. Take away the bad child (or correct him in such manner that makes him too scared of the consequences) and you eliminate the problem. Taking away the tool of the crime does not eliminate the causation.

You can stop a shooter with another shooter. If the bad guy uses a bomb instead, you cannot stop him with another bomb. If he uses a knife, do you stop him with another knife? If you outlaw all means of violence, someone will just invent a new method. The answer is to eliminate the cause of the violence. If you cannot fix the person then you must eliminate his ability to perpetrate violence. You lock him up, or in extreme cases you put him down.

I agree with your statement. Young children are playing these games and have no idea of reality. These games make them feel powerful and in control. Violent video games need to he taken off the market.

False
 

The UK is NUMBER ONE in violent crimes in the World.

There is no point in taking any action, this is the new normal. The only way to stop is to take away all guns but that will not happen, too many 2nd amendment lovers. Just get used to it, Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, south Fla., Colorado, Texas. Got a bunch of states it hasn't happened yet, but it will. It's old news. Not going to change.

when these killings happen, everyone is talking about guns, but i rarely her anyone mention SECURITY. as in Sandy Hook, this guy just walked right into the school, no checks or balances. Chris Murphy said we needed better security, but it never happened, except for the occasional unarmed patrol greeting parents.
the killings are horrific, but look how it brings out the SAME PEOPLE who've been arguing for gun control for years! it's obscene the way they turn out time after time, preaching but offering no real solutions. they use the dead children as a tool to enforce stricter laws & it hasn't worked yet, so i get the feeling nothing is sacred when it comes to manipulation

How that work out? People still smoke.

Video Games
 

If you have ever seen these video games like Call of Duty, the character you play in the game is exactly like this last grocery store killing. He had his camera mount on his chest so it would look just like it does in the video game, all the way down to the way he reloaded the gun.
Businesses put millions of dollars in 30 second advertising like commercials and radio because it works. Now think about kids playing these games for hours everyday. It is actually driven in the brain. These video games are way more to blame than the guns. But, it also falls back on the parents, discipline & the way they raise them.
I know many of you will argue that the guns are the problems but we have guns protecting our politicians, our money (banks), celebrities, special events, college sports, and much more. But NO security officers with guns in schools. If you ask me, teachers should have to go through a yearly gun course and carry to protect our children. Have fingers print access to the guns so the kids can’t take them and stop these killers in their tracks.

AR-15’s?

Please get some facts. All states must follow the EXISTING Federal background checks before allowing a gun to be sold. This is a requirement (LAW) for any FFL dealer. The check must clear with the FBI and other federal databases.

An AR-15 is not a military weapon. Think of a .22 rifle with an ammo clip.

And would you also like others to take away your 1st amendment right to state your opinion? Much violence is being caused by the 1st amendment fermenting anger

People need to go back to church, put God back in schools, and teach their children right from wrong. Moral values and caring for others can help stop the violence.

Please, all, stay focused
 

1. There is one goal and that is to protect our children from being murdered in school rooms
2. We must guard our children like a bank guards its money with armed personnel
3. Businesses that guard their product do not get caught up in political , social or constitutional arguements .you enter their store with criminal intent you may not walk out vertically.
4 as i said before in pp. Arm our paid national guard to deploy to schools with metal detectors.
This is a solution. Not a philosophical menagerie of aimless and pointless debates
5. Protect our children not your points of views.

Reply not directed at creator of post, but more to gun-control people: Chicago has some of the most constraining gun law in the country...and they rack up more dead in a month than in this recent TX elementary school shooting. How is more gun control going to help? Criminal will continue to get the guns while law-abiding citizens will be limited or even disarmed.
*Caveat-why does no one care that Chicago has, normally, about 20+ killed every month in shootings but everyone goes ape over a mass shooting? Incongruous.

Nicely stated in a simple to understand statement.!!
:BigApplause:

And what would have come back if a background check was done?

“A .22 with an ammo clip”?

Most recent descriptions describe the AR-15 as the most destructive rifle against human flesh ever used in armed combat. A .22? Like what kids use to shoot squirrels?

Wow
 

I would say it’s the PARENTS job to teach them not to kill a perdon