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Number 10 GI 06-01-2022 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_W (Post 2101612)
I've posted at least 3 times about Southwestern High school in Indiana which spent $400k to secure their school from a mass shooter being able to carry out such an event. We can retrofit all 63,000 schools in our country for $20billion. It is a solution that would stop all mass school shootings. That seems the best solution to me.

Sarah, read my post, #837.

Sarah_W 06-01-2022 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2101616)
Sarah, read my post, #837.

Agreed.

It seems we have half our population who believe that majority rule should overrule minority rights. Our Founding Fathers were so much smarter than we are today. They created a system of self governance that didn't exist in their time. It was brilliant. Power Elites have been slowing dismantling it over generations. Remove one Liberty at a time and the People don't seem to notice. Franklin was correct.

Normal 06-01-2022 04:58 PM

If the question is actually “What percentage of criminals legally buy a gun and commit a crime with it,” the percentage is extremely small. The last data suggests that a fraction of one percent of those who commit a gun related crime will legally purchase a gun and then commit a crime with it. Most of those crimes are “crimes of domestic violence,” essentially crimes of passion, and the gun happened to be in the house. If no gun were present, some other weapon, knives, clubs, fists or something else, would have been used instead. While the overwhelming majority of professional criminals will use stolen “street guns” that are cheap but very definitely illegal.

However, if the question is “What percentage of crimes are committed with legally purchased guns” the answer is about six percent of murders – and very few other crimes. Amateurs buy guns at a dealers; which involves extensive paperwork, identification, FBI background checks, and so on. Pros buy guns on the street, where the only requirement is money – or other valuta.

The shooting in Uvalde was appalling. No one wants to see this repeated, but obviously the facts speak for themselves. The only solution is to harden soft targets like schools. I didn’t like the airport changes either, but I did get used to the TSA.

coralway 06-01-2022 05:00 PM

"Your dead kids don’t trump my constitutional rights" ............. .Joe the Plumber

Number 10 GI 06-01-2022 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by coralway (Post 2101673)
"Your dead kids don’t trump my constitutional rights" ............. .Joe the Plumber

An example of my post #837

jimbomaybe 06-01-2022 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2101614)
That would help ! The problem is to get ALL the PUBLIC school districts in ALL the US to be willing to INCREASE their property taxes enough to pay the costs of that "HARDENING" of schools. I would VOTE for that!

You seem very active on this subject, I have asked previously why years ago when you could buy semi auto rifles through the mail, no questions, mass shootings were very rare, what has changed?

Number 10 GI 06-01-2022 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2101311)
No, they were just greedy criminals acting spontaneously To take advantage of police not being able to be everywhere. Jan 6th was a PLANNED attempt at a US government TAKEOVER - a COMPLETELY different animal! In a few days, the Jan 6th Committee will PROVE that to all with a flexible, open mind.

Remember the movie, A Few Good Men? "You can't handle the truth!" Jack Nicholson's character Colonel Nathan R. Jessep. Antifa is an anarchist organization whose intent is the destruction of our system of government. Have you been paying attention to the news reports on BLM's leadership? Brother of the leader of the organization being given lucrative security contracts worth huge money. The mansions they have bought, huge salaries, and luxurious living for the leadership using money donated to the organization. Sounds like a lot of greedy criminals to me!

Number 10 GI 06-01-2022 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2101264)
So what are the things they are doing in these other countries? Please don't say gun bans stop violence, there are still knives, bludgeons, fists, feet and any number of potential weapons. What are their assault rates with these weapons? If those rates are lower than ours, how does a gun ban cause that?

I guess removing the evil talisman guns also removes the evil spirits that force a sane person to become evil.

(Tapping on my microphone) Testing, testing. Jim, Jim why haven't you answered my question?

billethkid 06-01-2022 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2101677)
You seem very active on this subject, I have asked previously why years ago when you could buy semi auto rifles through the mail, no questions, mass shootings were very rare, what has changed?

We have become the permissive society!!!

Thou shalt not do or say anything to might upset anybody....taking action to do what is right or correct is just shy of no longer permissible.....regardless the impact/results!

The current wave of lawlessness and the drive to do away with the police being prime examples!

jimjamuser 06-01-2022 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2101677)
You seem very active on this subject, I have asked previously why years ago when you could buy semi auto rifles through the mail, no questions, mass shootings were very rare, what has changed?

Life has changed. No one ever guaranteed us that everything would ALWAYS stay the same. When (maybe 1950 to 1970) you could buy mail-order guns the population of the US was about 150 million people. Today it is about 350 million. That is one big and powerful change. We did NOT outsource everything to China then. A lot of legal and illegal immigration has happened since then. Diversity is considered to be good, but when is diversity too much? When is population too much? When does too much population outgrow a nearly fixed road system? Just drive on I-75 anytime around Atlanta to answer that
.........Basically, ALL of society has changed since someone could buy a GUN with no questions asked by mail order. Around 1981 all federal mental health institutes were closed. That certainly didn't HELP keep society stable and mass murders down. It's hard to compare one time period that was 60 some years from today, with today, just NOT possible. Gang violence and drug violence barely existed in the era of mail-order guns. In 1981, public schools did NOT have 30 kids in one classroom. Today, the overcrowding prevents almost all of the teachers from keeping order and encouraging learning and success in their students. Most school districts won't raise property taxes to hire enough teachers and staff. The US had a strong middle class around the 1950s. Today the middle class barely exists.
.........There are MANY reasons why society has gotten MORE violent today. When you combine More violence with MORE AVAILABILITY OF guns, you get MORE mass murders. Society has changed and seems more WILLING to accept more Mass murders. I worry about this summer coming up!

jimbomaybe 06-01-2022 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2101679)
Remember the movie, A Few Good Men? "You can't handle the truth!" Jack Nicholson's character Colonel Nathan R. Jessep. Antifa is an anarchist organization whose intent is the destruction of our system of government. Have you been paying attention to the news reports on BLM's leadership? Brother of the leader of the organization being given lucrative security contracts worth huge money. The mansions they have bought, huge salaries, and luxurious living for the leadership using money donated to the organization. Sounds like a lot of greedy criminals to me!

If I remember right at one time Antifa's own web site ID themselves as Marxist, "the gulag archipelago" has a line in it We knew we (Marxist) won when the person in the street no longer supported the police. The 6th of Jan group was hardly all a bunch of revolutionaries , certainly a small benighted number thought they could some how change things in the streets of Washington, the greatest numbers by far were upset with the election, but blowing it out of proportion make a better story and fits the narrative

jimjamuser 06-01-2022 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2101679)
Remember the movie, A Few Good Men? "You can't handle the truth!" Jack Nicholson's character Colonel Nathan R. Jessep. Antifa is an anarchist organization whose intent is the destruction of our system of government. Have you been paying attention to the news reports on BLM's leadership? Brother of the leader of the organization being given lucrative security contracts worth huge money. The mansions they have bought, huge salaries, and luxurious living for the leadership using money donated to the organization. Sounds like a lot of greedy criminals to me!

Apparently, we watch different news channels. Remind me when BLM starts chanting "hang Mike Pense" and ALMOST succeeds in overthrowing the US government. Then, I will become seriously worried about BLM.

Number 10 GI 06-01-2022 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2101691)
If I remember right at one time Antifa's own web site ID themselves as Marxist, "the gulag archipelago" has a line in it We knew we (Marxist) won when the person in the street no longer supported the police. The 6th of Jan group was hardly all a bunch of revolutionaries , certainly a small benighted number thought they could some how change things in the streets of Washington, the greatest numbers by far were upset with the election, but blowing it out of proportion make a better story and fits the narrative

The goal of Marxism is the overthrow of governments and the installation of communism. That is not revolution, that is sedition and treason. Antifa is hardly a group of revolutionaries, they are thugs. BLM has become a criminal enterprise siphoning money donated by fools.

Reiver 06-01-2022 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2101418)
So? really, we are talking about a significant rise in school shootings in the past couple of years. Knives, bats, fists, and feet are NOT used in mass murders.

Thank god I don't have to worry about mass murder by fists imagine killing 20 people in a class by beating them to death.

Thank you for the "what aboutism"

What about this?

Mass Murder without Guns | National Review

Weapons That Are Most Commonly Used for Homicides

jimjamuser 06-01-2022 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2101702)
The goal of Marxism is the overthrow of governments and the installation of communism. That is not revolution, that is sedition and treason. Antifa is hardly a group of revolutionaries, they are thugs. BLM has become a criminal enterprise siphoning money donated by fools.

I don't see much difference between Fascists and Marxists. They BOTH end up in a Dictatorship and suck the blood out of the middle class. I am a middle-classist - BOTH the far right and the far left are sickos to me!


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