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spd2918 05-26-2022 08:08 AM

I had police training about how to react to an "active shooter." I wish I kept my materials. I recall a high percentage of young adults who commit these crimes are actively on mental illness medication, some of which have warnings of homicidal/ suicidal idiations. Food for thought.

And I learned the first school shooting was in the 1800s. And nutballs that want soft victims go to schools and some have used knives. So do we ban those too? Or fertilizer and deisiel fuel?

Stu from NYC 05-26-2022 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2099025)
I used to love cap pistols and firecrackers. Gone.

But, there seems to be more guns on television now than there were when I was growing up.

I dont think so. Growing up there were series on TV about war (Combat) with lots of people getting shot and blown up every week. Remember all the war movies about WW II and Korea.

Lots of cowboy and indians shows and movies with people getting killed in the hundreds.

We used to play a game with knives called land where we took a pocket knife and threw it into the ground near our feet. Dumb of course but we all did it.

How the world has changed.

Two Bills 05-26-2022 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 2099038)
The UK is NUMBER ONE in violent crimes in the World.

BS!

Petersweeney 05-26-2022 08:16 AM

Other rates?
 
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2098795)
Almost correct.

Hunters in Japan can have guns.

The low murder rate is culture driven, not gun control driven.

Suicide rate is sky high, culture driven

airstreamingypsy 05-26-2022 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Speedie (Post 2099059)
And would you also like others to take away your 1st amendment right to state your opinion? Much violence is being caused by the 1st amendment fermenting anger

People need to go back to church, put God back in schools, and teach their children right from wrong. Moral values and caring for others can help stop the violence.

Whose god do you want in schools? Yours. I don't want my kid indoctrinated. Your god is banned from schools by the Constitution.

airstreamingypsy 05-26-2022 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by villager7591 (Post 2099057)
An AR-15 is not a military weapon. Think of a .22 rifle with an ammo clip.

Actually, it is. "ArmaLite first developed the AR-15 in the late 1950s as a military rifle, but had limited success in selling it. In 1959 the company sold the design to Colt.

In 1963, the U.S. military selected Colt to manufacture the automatic rifle that soon became standard issue for U.S. troops in the Vietnam War. It was known as the M-16.

Armed with that success, Colt ramped up production of a semiautomatic version of the M-16 that it sold to law enforcement and the public, marketed as the AR-15."

Topspinmo 05-26-2022 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2098816)
This country is going back to the wild west days.


Yep, 350 million plus hard core crazy killers and murderers. Now if want to come up with reasonable solutions? No semiautomatic hand guns, no semiautomatic rifles with magazines over 5 rounds or no semiautomatic rifles. No extended magazines. No guns will never happen, but limitations can work. No society is actually free so the free country argument out the window.

spd2918 05-26-2022 08:26 AM

Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile has killed more people than all my guns combined.

jimbomaybe 05-26-2022 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Villages Kahuna (Post 2099064)
“A .22 with an ammo clip”?

Most recent descriptions describe the AR-15 as the most destructive rifle against human flesh ever used in armed combat. A .22? Like what kids use to shoot squirrels?

Hype, my vote would be the AK47 originally chambered for 7.62X39, since then of course it has been manufactured from 223, on up

jimbomaybe 05-26-2022 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2099096)
Yep, 350 million plus hard core crazy killers and murderers. Now if want to come up with reasonable solutions? No semiautomatic hand guns, no semiautomatic rifles with magazines over 5 rounds or no semiautomatic rifles. No extended magazines. No guns will never happen, but limitations can work. No society is actually free so the free country argument out the window.

Police /military ok , everybody else muzzleloaders

Topspinmo 05-26-2022 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ScottGo (Post 2099043)
There is no point in taking any action, this is the new normal. The only way to stop is to take away all guns but that will not happen, too many 2nd amendment lovers. Just get used to it, Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, south Fla., Colorado, Texas. Got a bunch of states it hasn't happened yet, but it will. It's old news. Not going to change.

Too many guns and too many illegal untraceable guns entering country. No guns will NEVER happen even if you outlaw them, yes it will work with law bidding citizens, but what about the other 30% or higher? Limited gun laws where can go after manufacture an dealers might work legally, but illegal trade it won’t. laws in this country are not all enforced depending on who’s in charge at moment.

RatattacK79 05-26-2022 08:33 AM

Useless analogy… go live in Japan. Tell how you feel safer there. The real problem is we (USA) abandoned mental health in the 70’s. We abandoned God, family and morality starting in the 80’s and 90’s as a society. USA will reap what it sows if we do not make some serious changes to how we raise our children and how we ignore people with mental illness.

JeepsterGlenn 05-26-2022 08:34 AM

Start at the top
 
Our congressmen consume millions of dollars of taxpayer money each year and most of them are not willing to do anything about this huge issue. If our lawmakers are not doing their job, they need to be removed in the next election.

Every resident of this country has the ability to enforce change if they are willing to vote based on actual results instead of hot air and propaganda.

This is not meant to be political as it applies to everyone. Why do you allow these politicians to get re-elected when they are not solving problems like this?

Lindaws 05-26-2022 08:34 AM

That is a start! Taking away our guns is not the answer. Society, cultural ,
mental illness etc. he was on a mission! If no gun he would have found another
weapon.

Topspinmo 05-26-2022 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2099103)
Police /military ok , everybody else muzzleloaders

Actually I don’t want bunch of idiots with bags of black powder. Sooner or later they figure out they can make bombs 💣.


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