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coffeebean 08-25-2020 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1822248)
Than their is the old police expression, Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

If these people would only follow the officers instructions we would all be in a better place.

Truer words have not been spoken!

coffeebean 08-25-2020 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1822249)
Don’t you think you should take your own advice and wait for results of the investigation before jumping to conclusions?
Domestic abuser stops to breakup domestic dispute? Not likely.
Went to check on his kids. Were they under the seat?

Has it been reported that Blake looked under the seat?

coffeebean 08-25-2020 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Northerner52 (Post 1822270)
And there is no outrage or protesting when blacks kill blacks by the thousands??????

Or when black man kills a 5 year old white child who was riding his bike on the wrong grass?

Bikeracer2009 08-25-2020 08:13 PM

Mr Blake is officially a millionaire according to his go fund me page. He will no doubt also get a substantial settlement from his civil case. Hopefully his children will grow up and become successful, law abiding citizens.

Hopefully this type of monetary gain doesn't inspire others to fight with the police. It seems that becoming a dead hero or rich survivor are real possibilities if you fight with the police. If you don't fight you just go to jail and take your chances in court. Mr Blake was looking at a prison sentence for the charges he had already racked up so this may have motivated him to fight with the police?


I'm still open minded and as the facts come in I'll adjust my opinion.

coffeebean 08-25-2020 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1822359)
I agree. I'm really shocked that people see a person's prior record as an excuse to shoot them, and we don't even know if the police were aware of his record at the time of the shooting. And speaking of records, supposed it was a white woman who was a prostitute, instead of a black man with a history of third degree spousal abuse? Should she be treated differently because of the type of crime she committed? Or are police going to treat a car thief differently? Or how about a businessman who committed fraud? If it was a white guy in a suit going back to check on his children would they have been so quick to pump 7 shots into his BACK? I think if we are honest we know the answer to that question.

A white guy in a suit would more than likely listen to the police and cooperate. Do not make the police feel threatened. That is they key to all these altercations with the police and it does not matter the color of the suspect's skin.

Northwoods 08-25-2020 08:40 PM

If you haven't seen Jacob Blake's mother speak at the press conference in Kenosha today, it's worth watching. She said that if her son saw the rioting and destruction of Kenosha, he would not approve. She said that all lives matter. She said we have to stop the hate, that no race is better than any other race. I was so impressed with her words, I wish I would have seen some of those healing words on the national news tonight:
Jacob Blake’s Mother Says Son Would be ‘Unpleased’ by Response to Kenosha Shooting – NBC Chicago

coffeebean 08-25-2020 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TooColdNJ (Post 1822603)
I just posted about this as well. DISGUSTING.
Watch the video, and listen to a witness describe the situation. WHY did they need to send 7 police officers in the first place?

Listen to the police or not, which none of us heard exactly what they said, there’s no excuse for this. It shouldn’t be, “listen to what we say or we’ll shoot you in the back, even though you don’t have a gun or knife.” The guy didn’t go anywhere, and he had THREE KIDS in the back of the car. So now you’re saying that it’s as simple as just listening, and has nothing to do with SOME, not all, trigger happy LEOs.

It is as simple as IMMEDIATELY put hands in the air with fingers splayed when LEOs are shouting at you. What is so difficult about that? Don't play with fire and you won't get burned.

TheWarriors 08-25-2020 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1822420)
What is pathetic is the lack of gun control in this country.

Gun control is only favored by those that want to dictate freedom, the government may not always defend freedom and we may be called upon as citizens to set them straight.

manaboutown 08-25-2020 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerry Azz (Post 1822287)
Wow what did George Floyd do wrong?
I guess the officer that had his knee on his neck for almost 9 minutes while he was cuffed up was in danger for his life!
Your comment speaks in volume as to what type of mindset you have!

Floyd could have died from a fentanyl overdose. Of course he was resisting arrest...

Two Bills 08-26-2020 03:32 AM

The man with the gun always has the 'right of way!'

Love2Swim 08-26-2020 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mamamia54 (Post 1822833)
The video shows him going into his car. How do they police know he wasn’t going to grab a gun. He should have just done what they requested. Now that we know his record and all the things he was arrested for and I think still has a warrant out for his arrest, I think it’s fair for the police to think he would be pulling a gun out.

Maybe he said to the police “I hear my three year old child crying and I need to check on her”. And he proceeded to the car. You and everyone else here doesn’t have all the facts. We need to see the results of an independent investigation.

Bikeracer2009 08-26-2020 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1822897)
Maybe he said to the police “I hear my three year old child crying and I need to check on her”. And he proceeded to the car. You and everyone else here doesn’t have all the facts. We need to see the results of an independent investigation.

I hear what you're saying and agree we need to wait on all of the facts to come in. I will be disappointed if it's proven that Mr Blake fought with the police and ignored their commands while pointing their guns at him so he could check on his kids. I would hope that a parent in that situation would comply with the police immediately instead of escalating things into a deadly situation.

I think those in support of Mr Blake are hoping for something more supportive of his need to do what he did. I also believe that some of his supporters don't need anything else.

I don't see people on this forum changing their minds on this unfortunate event on either side. You either believe a person should always cooperate with the police or you believe that they're situations in which a person can justify the opposite. There's not much chance in changing someone's mind on such a subject matter.

I'm not an expert and offer no studies or facts to support my opinions.

Stu from NYC 08-26-2020 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bikeracer2009 (Post 1822924)
I hear what you're saying and agree we need to wait on all of the facts to come in. I will be disappointed if it's proven that Mr Blake fought with the police and ignored their commands while pointing their guns at him so he could check on his kids. I would hope that a parent in that situation would comply with the police immediately instead of escalating things into a deadly situation.

I think those in support of Mr Blake are hoping for something more supportive of his need to do what he did. I also believe that some of his supporters don't need anything else.

I don't see people on this forum changing their minds on this unfortunate event on either side. You either believe a person should always cooperate with the police or you believe that they're situations in which a person can justify the opposite. There's not much chance in changing someone's mind on such a subject matter.

I'm not an expert and offer no studies or facts to support my opinions.

The investigation will determine what actually happened and the guilty party, but in these times with most of us staying home we do have more time for speculations.

Bay Kid 08-26-2020 06:49 AM

When the police say stop you stop. You don't walk away and reach into a car. I feel sorry for his parents, but they should have taught him respect.

Byte1 08-26-2020 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1822813)
"Best for the kids" - that's pretty judgemental.

Yes, it is. Isn't most of the posts on this blog, someone's opinion?


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