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TooColdNJ 08-25-2020 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrprez (Post 1822602)
He opened his door and was reaching inside. The police had no idea what he was going to do next..
Exactly the point.

Stu from NYC 08-25-2020 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TooColdNJ (Post 1822674)
You might be right. You think they would have acted any differently if the guy told them he had to check on his kids? If he would’ve told them the reason, which maybe he DID, they probably wouldn’t have believed him anyway.

No, his life shouldn’t be celebrated, but George Floyd said he couldn’t breathe. You see how well that worked. They didn’t care because he had a criminal record? That’s sad.
When you are stopped by the police you follow their directions. Why compare this to the Floyd case?

Wyseguy 08-25-2020 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1822013)
It seems to be very well covered in all media.

Always wonder the need to condemn those who report what is happening.
I have not seen his criminal record reported on CNN? First I am hearing of it. Not sure it should matter. His totally not following instructions and then reaching in a car would seem to make it justifiable.

Mrprez 08-25-2020 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TooColdNJ (Post 1822676)
Exactly the point.
So, you think the police should wait and possibly be shot? Why can’t people just cooperate?

retiredguy123 08-25-2020 04:08 PM
I just watched the news conference conducted by the family attorneys. Looked like a fundraiser to me. No mention by the lawyers that the police officers are innocent until proven guilty. No mention that there was a warrant for Blakes's arrest and that he was resisting arrest. But, to me, the important thing is that what these lawyers are doing will do nothing to improve race relations. Just the opposite. Where are the black people shot by police who don't have a criminal record and don't resist arrest?

MDLNB 08-25-2020 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TooColdNJ (Post 1822774)
Really??? Those kids are better of without a father because he was an embarrassment to them?? My father was an embarrassment to me... so I guess, according to you, that it’s best for me that he died. Those kids were lucky to have a dad, considering that there are many missing fathers in black communities. At least he took responsibility for them in some way. Maybe he changed his criminal ways. No criminals are ever rehabilitated?

No one knows his situation or the facts behind this incident, but many of you are pretty quick to judge that he was nothing more than another scumbag who didn’t listen and grabbed for a weapon— so he immediately deserved to die. If not, they didn’t have to put not one, but seven bullets in his back.

With all this said, maybe he did start to turn around with a weapon in his hand and it was a justified shooting. But for the police to assume that it was a weapon is not a reason to kill him. We just don’t have all the facts.

The kids have a chance to grow up with a better example now. He was a thug and a felon with a warrant out for his arrest. He brought the shooting on himself, so he got what he was due. Guess he got his rehabilitation, huh? Gonna be hard for him to commit crimes from a wheel chair.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-25-2020 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1822790)
The kids have a chance to grow up with a better example now. He was a thug and a felon with a warrant out for his arrest. He brought the shooting on himself, so he got what he was due. Guess he got his rehabilitation, huh? Gonna be hard for him to commit crimes from a wheel chair.
...and our tax dollars will be paying his medical, food, and shelter expenses for the rest of his life, because he is now disabled and unable to work. His family probably would've been better off if he had been killed, because now they have the burden of taking care of him. Which means THEY will have to not work, maybe not go to college. Medicaid doesn't cover life-long home-care 24/7.

The "better example" they have now, as opposed to last week, is that cops shoot daddies. Nice example.

Byte1 08-25-2020 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1822793)
...and our tax dollars will be paying his medical, food, and shelter expenses for the rest of his life, because he is now disabled and unable to work. His family probably would've been better off if he had been killed, because now they have the burden of taking care of him. Which means THEY will have to not work, maybe not go to college. Medicaid doesn't cover life-long home-care 24/7.

The "better example" they have now, as opposed to last week, is that cops shoot daddies. Nice example.
I'm sure that with a daddy like that, they probably already lived on welfare. At least the taxpayer's money will be going to keeping him off the street. Probably cheaper to keep him in jail though. At least we don't have to worry about him getting out of jail and starting another crime spree. Forced rehab.

jimjamuser 08-25-2020 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1822210)
In 99% of police shootings once all the facts are out it is clear why they shot and are found not guilty. The police tried to stop him getting into his car by nonviolent means first (grabbing his shirt) then when Blake bent down to grab a weapon the police had to defend themselves and shot. As regards the seven shots, in a tense situation one bullet or even several may not stop a determined criminal.
I see a rationalization in that post.

PugMom 08-25-2020 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1822252)
There just has to be more than what was seen on the video, or even reported as this started as a domestic dispute, so I'll wait to hear a lot more facts before judging what looks right now to me, like an out of control and scared officer trying to murder him. To justify 7 shots, point blank, into the back of an unarmed man however, it is going to take an awful lot to convince me to even imagine this being justified. As for whatever prior record he had, that has absolutely nothing to do with what the officer did (that's for a jury or judge at the time of any potential sentencing) and it's sad to think that anyone would feel otherwise. I am amazed that the guy is even still alive at this point, so I'm hoping for a full recovery so that our justice system can work like it's supposed to. I am also hoping that people allow the system to work and they don't start rioting, looting or setting things on fire. If they do, they need to be arrested and prosecuted fully.
there is more. the 'media' didnt show us the video moments before the man was shot. he was physically fighting with police.

PugMom 08-25-2020 06:30 PM
am not saying he deserved 7 shots, but to be fair, this time i'd go with the police. george floyd was a entirely different case. floyd was already cuffed before they threw him to the ground

Bonnevie 08-25-2020 07:07 PM
My father was a policeman until he retired. he always said never take out your gun unless you intend to shoot it....meaning be very careful about when you do.I have my father's old nightstick that he carried while walking a beat. can't help but wonder if the cops still carried nightsticks if one of them could have used it on the guy while he was walking away. it's very hard wood and the old cops would hit behind the knees with it...very effective. I just don't understand with all those police there why it escalated like that. and I can't condone firing 7 shots into a car with children in it. he may not be the poster child for his race, but he's still a human being.

jimjamuser 08-25-2020 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1822790)
The kids have a chance to grow up with a better example now. He was a thug and a felon with a warrant out for his arrest. He brought the shooting on himself, so he got what he was due. Guess he got his rehabilitation, huh? Gonna be hard for him to commit crimes from a wheel chair.
That's harsh. Nobody should EVER judge anyone else THAT harsh.

coffeebean 08-25-2020 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1822210)
In 99% of police shootings once all the facts are out it is clear why they shot and are found not guilty. The police tried to stop him getting into his car by nonviolent means first (grabbing his shirt) then when Blake bent down to grab a weapon the police had to defend themselves and shot. As regards the seven shots, in a tense situation one bullet or even several may not stop a determined criminal.
Has it been determined that Blake was reaching for a weapon in his car? In all the news reports I have seen, it has not been reported that he was reaching for a weapon in his car.

mamamia54 08-25-2020 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1822672)
Except, he didn't grab a gun. He didn't have a gun to grab. The policemen shot him anyway. Why are you okay with that?
The video shows him going into his car. How do they police know he wasn’t going to grab a gun. He should have just done what they requested. Now that we know his record and all the things he was arrested for and I think still has a warrant out for his arrest, I think it’s fair for the police to think he would be pulling a gun out.


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