I am absolutely stunned reading the comments here, these is no defense of what that POS cop did to Mr. Floyd, none whatsoever. We watched him calmly put his knee on a handcuffed man's neck and crush his windpipe for over 8 minutes, why he repeatedly said, "I can't breathe" If that's okay with anyone, it's because you are a sociopath. Why does The Villages attract so many racists? Do you have full page ads in White Nationalist magazine or something?

Looks like the ME did find traces of fentanyl and meth in his blood and that cardiac arrest caused his death according to an article in Newsweek. Here is the link which works for me even though it appears to block access. You have been blocked

and the Washington Times. George Floyd death a homicide, had drugs in his system, medical examiner says - Washington Times

this man was murdered by police caught on camera end of story he may of been a thug but that dose not give police permission to murder. Lets say it was your son who had a checkered past would you not be outraged if he was murdered ?

Nope.. Minneapolis Medical Examiner lists Floyd's death as a Homicide, that his heart stopped AS police restrained him and compressed his neck. They added he had hypertension and heart disease along with recent fentanyl and methamphetamine use..I've lost 2 young employee's in 2 years from drugs, both did some jail time and yet I would have trusted both with my wallet or my kids more than most I know, they were good kids just troubled.. I had hypertension and heart disease in my 40's and 50's and triple bypass last year at 63, never smoke, drank (much) or did drugs in my life..Fact...he was dead when they put him on the stretcher Paramedics tried reviving him with shock all the way to the hospital where he was pronounced, Freddie Lloyd died that day in the street like a dog because a cop went WAY to far. Who knows maybe he would have died from drugs in a week or a month, or maybe he would have turned it around but that day it was all decided for him by someone else, a stranger who also had some serious violence issues himself in the past and maybe even shouldn't have even been a cop himself and that was not right..

Sounds like you're happy to hear that

How can one done by the state be independent. However it makes no difference as the conclusion is the same. He would be alive now if that officer would not have killed him. So you are saying it’s ok to kill someone for the possibility they passed a 20$ bill which has never Been proven. What record?

So, according to your reasoning, his having had a "BIG DEAL FELONY" conviction in his past justifies his being killed by the police?

What a bunch of DS’s. If I hire u I am looking for a specific outcome. Call it whatever u want but it sure isn’t independent if u are working specifically for me!!!!!

Come on Man!
 

That method was not legal or taught where I worked nor am I familiar with any other department teaching it. We were taught you only go to the throat as a last resort to save your own life. I agree, do not judge until all the evidence is in, but come on man! We can all see that this man was incapable at that point to fight. We as law enforcement officer's active and retired have to look at this and realize that this cop was wrong. Whether the suspect was on anything or not, he was no longer a threat and this should have been handled different.

Of course not. I am just interested in learning about Floyd's character. The autopsy shows he did have traces of fentanyl and meth in his blood so he was not "clean". Too, in the video showing him being walked from the wall to the vehicle he appeared to me to be unsteady on his feet, walking in the manner those under the influence of such substances do.

The police used excessive force and killed him and need to be tried for their actions in a court of law. Not only Chauvin, but the other three who stood by and let it happen.

Floyd and Chauvin both worked security at the same club for fourteen years, Floyd inside, Chauvin outside. At this point I am considering the possibility Chauvin had a grudge against Floyd, that his killing Floyd (yes he did kill him) may have been personal. Of course it may also have been racial. BUT, the other three cops standing by and letting it happen really concerns me. They failed to intervene and stop Chauvin. That speaks of a poorly run police department at the least.

Imagine that Floyd is your white son or grandson with a black officer with his knee on their neck until dead!

That ex police officer is NOT the judge, jury and executioner!The charge should be upgraded to first degree murder.Up his bail and let the grand jury and court system sort it out.

Police are trained to kill people. They are also trained to protect and serve.

Best comment is by Tiger
 

Tiger Woods tweeted the best comment.....
“My heart goes out to George Floyd, his loved ones and all of us who are hurting right now,” Woods wrote. “I have always had the utmost respect for our law enforcement. They train so diligently to understand how, when and where to use force. This shocking tragedy clearly crossed that line. I remember the LA riots and learned that education is the best path forward. We can make our points without burning the very neighborhoods that we live in. I hope that through constructive, honest conversations, we can build a safer, unified society.”

We could have the best ten out of 12 autopsies. I see so many of things and wonder whether I am racist or not. In my constant viewing of LivePD I see many, many, people restrained with the knee on neck and they appear to have no color emphasis, just the fact that people are trying to not sit down, or are trying to hit the police man or woman, or kick him or her and some do break loose and run away. I see many police dogs biting people of all races for not following police orders. I see people of all colors being tazed. I have seen two officers on LivePD that I felt were a little tiny bit toward the "big guy in a uniform don't mess with me" sort of person. I am prejudiced by the big tall man in a uniform who raised me and who worked for the Columbus, Ohio police force for 34 years. I still have his uniform buttons in my jewelry box.

As a nursery school teacher I would invite community helpers to my classroom. Some were really good at talking to children and some were a little Barney Fifish. It takes all kinds for any job. We can't lose track of the fact that watching people who break the law almost always involves some mighty good and experienced liars about just about everything. How many times have I heard of LivePD……….These aren't my pants.

It is hard to not be biased by what happened to you in your many years of life. We are so foolish on here to argue and lose sight of the fact that it is wrong to kill and to steal and to harm and to hate.

No matter who does it.

It appeared to me that the sustained compression to his neck not only blocked his airway, it also compromised blood flow to his brain by compressing his carotid artery. That likely caused brain death. The reason he died is because a bad cop caused his death. My son was a police officer, he would never had stood by and allowed this to happen. If I am correct, there were two autopsies, one by the family and one by the state medical examiner. Regardless of the technical reason he died, this never should have happened.

Just wondering if anyone here knows why he has being arrested? It was all over a possible counterfeit $20 bill. He was obviously subdued and other officers were there. Think about that for a moment.

The police action has been harshly criticized by police officers and police forces throughout the country and the world, YET so many on here desperately with great vigor and hate look so hard to find an excuse. THAT effort is what is disconcerting to me and it appears to the world.

That attitude, in my opinion, meaning always finding an excuse and reason for bad behavior (its just so and so being so and so..etc) is what is tearing at the fiber of the country.

We are being led to believe here on the forum and throughout that perfection is never saying that a mistake was made.....I am tired of being lectured about my behavior when my behavior is not the problem.

Here is an episode on LivePD. Here an officer is leaning on this man's neck with his forearm. This happened in Pasco County, Florida in December of 2018. Listen and watch to the end.

I think I remember the statistics on death by drug overdose in 2019, as around 70,000 deaths. Sometimes drugs give people resisting arrest superhuman strength. Here it took three officers to get this man to allow them to put handcuffs on. And there was Cocaine.

I guess no matter which side you choose, you can always bring up that those weren't really HIS pants and the cops put the drugs on him.

I admit to being prejudiced toward law enforcement.

Watch this video.

Live PD - Resisting Arrest “I was eating a fu***** Apple fritter” - YouTube

Why does a poster think that The Villages attract so many racists. Right there in that statement shows they are racist themselves to post such a stupid statement. The whole picture here is that people are quick to judge both Mr. Floyd and the police. The policeman did an unthinkable act by killing Mr. Floyd and we all can only second guess why he chose to go down that path. Let the courts and a jury decide his fate and we should all grieve for the family of Mr. Floyd. Mr. Floyd's past should not be a factor in his murder. Wait until all the facts are out in the open and we should stop the speculating of what did and did not happen. What happened the last week with the rioting and looting is doing nothing to protest the murder of George Floyd

Corrupt
 

Biden is a corrupt medical examiner who was banned in many states! Nothing he does can be believed at all! The original unbiased medical examiner is the only one who can be believed!!!

Do you mean Dr. Baden? Perhaps this was a Freudian slip! Lol!

Do you have any proof of this?

:popcorn:

Nation'''s police widely condemn move used to restrain George Floyd

"Most of the nation's police departments have long cautioned their officers against putting pressure on the back or neck of someone lying face down during an arrest, as Minneapolis officers did to George Floyd.

There's widespread agreement in law enforcement that putting a knee on someone's neck — the move fired police Officer Derek Chauvin used to restrain Floyd — is especially dangerous.

"There hasn't been one person, one police chief, anyone I've talked to, who doesn't see this exactly the same way. The police officer and those who were there that day failed George Floyd," said Chuck Wexler, executive director of the Police Executive Research Forum, a law enforcement-oriented think tank based in Washington. "Every police officer that looked at that video who knows anything about tactics shook their head.


Nation'''s police widely condemn move used to restrain George Floyd


"A New Jersey police chief and several officers marched in solidarity with protesters in one of the state’s most violent cities on Saturday as part of a peaceful protest in the wake of George Floyd’s death.

The act was one of the latest shows of solidarity between law enforcement and those protesting in their communities nationwide."

New Jersey police officers help lead peaceful march for George Floyd in nation’s latest act of solidarity | Fox News

Every single person supports the police but some continue to chant....
How anyone who is horrified must hate the police. This response is getting old after a few years.

Whenever there is a trial, either criminal or civil, both sides will put expert witnesses on the stand who will provide evidence to support that side's case. You can find an expert to give any opinion you want if you pay them enough money. Baden is just another paid expert witness. If the jury has any common sense at all, they will just ignore the expert witnesses because their opposing opinions will cancel each other out.

Please point out who is justifying a murder? Semantics.

Why do we not see what led up to the incident? Were the cops in danger? Were they dealing a uncontrollable persons (drugs, etc)? Were they threatened? Our news does not show us any of that or report on that. If the answer is no to above, then the cop should be accountable. But until then, we should wait for a proper investigation.

Timeline: The impact of George Floyd'''s death in Minneapolis and beyond - ABC News

New security video shows events leading up to George Floyd'''s arrest

George Floyd protests: How did we get here?

What we know about the events surrounding George Floyd’s death and its aftermath: a timeline | MinnPost

George Floyd: What happened in the final moments of his life - BBC News

I am not sure WHAT news you see that is not reported, but when you read all the above, let me know....many more.

The usual suspects on here keep repeating that those of us who feel this was horrific.....

,,,,hate the police
....are bleeding heart liberals
....do not understand the issue
....need to be punished for not supporting police

on and on and on.........the justification is those who will never ever admit a serious and horrendous mistake was made

The WORLD sees it and undertands

Yes to all the above. I and many stated long ago in many posts that this was a disgusting and uncalled for act by tha ****head cop, I even went on to call him a pig, a word I despise relating to the Police.
Some hear think anyone that argues with them are all bigots and racists. Some always fan the flames, and they know they will with their posts. Very rarely if any time have I seen those few ever help anyone on this forum.
Yes I see and feel with all my heart,all the above, except the punishing for not supporting the Police. Everything else I agree with.
No we will see who comes back at me, those will be the ones.......
Steve

Does it matter that Mr. Floyd was in prison for felony armed burglary? Does it matter that Mr.Chauvin was sited several times for excessive force?? I think it does on both gentlemen. Doesn't anyone remember being told that "your permanent record will follow you"???

I think it does. It does matter in both situations. I would not want either one to marry my cousin. My cousin deserves better than both of them. It isn't that someone is right or wrong, It is that someone is VERY right or VERY wrong and they keep doing the same stuff. That is called a pattern, a history. What is the best predictor of future behavior? The Catholic Church had it right but they changed it. They used to have mortal AND venial sin.

Oh man...I am just asking for it. But let's talk about stuff. It was wrong to do WHAT? Who started out being the wrongest???

Because he is independent of political or governmental pressure. He performed the autopsy alongside the county medical examiner, who also concluded that it was murder.

He? Who? When? Can you link us to this information?? This Mr. Baden performed his independent autopsy along with the original person who did the autopsy for the State? AND the original autopsyer agreed with the independent one that it was murder???????????

I do believe that when one is first being arrested, as Mr. Floyd was being, the officers do not have your name, which means they do not have your record - clean or unclean. Once someone has served his/her time, it's done. This man had kept a clean record for a number of years. Let's get off Mr. Floyd and look at who caused all the unrest. One man, one police officer cause the cauldron of anger over racial inequality and racial injustice to boil over. Talk about Derek Chauvin and his previous use of excessive force. Chauvin is just one example of the many ways black men and women are treated unjustly, unfairly, and are killed needlessly by the white establishment.

1. I know you believe all the world is protesting ONLY the Floyd situation, but you are in error.. it is a build up of the hypocrisy of the USA recently.

2. Not sure what to make out of what you say. It is fine to act irresponsibility because this man has a record ?

I don't know. I do know this. If Mr. Floyd was a regular at this mini-mart. If indeed he did come in with two other people earlier and they tried to use a fake twenty dollar bill and the clerk caught it and returned it to them...…...And then he returned...………

And they called the police and gave his name, the police always try to run the name in their computer.

There is so much we don't know and we don't really know who to trust when we read something...……...Other than the usual reliable ones...; The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Guardian, AP Wire. etc.etc.and etc. Not Mother Jones are The Epoch Times...….

Absolutely never should have happened. I am still a bit confused as to how a man who can't breathe and has impaired circulation to his brain can talk. I'd like to see the full autopsy reports.

It isn't surprising to me what some people think. I just wonder why they do. People are acting so predictably on this Forum according to their mind set.

What if the highlighted part above sounds to a lot of people as if the writer doesn't really think the law enforcement community is fair for the most part??? I really don't know what percentage of L.E.O. are black or white or Hispanic or Asian or Native American. Most of them look like decent folks to me. I don't know how many are gay or bi....but assuredly some are. What difference does race have to do with almost anything, unless we have pre-conceived ideas about people? People who go to church. People who pay their Taxes. People who don't. We all do have them...ideas about people. All of us. There are some that think old white conservative ladies all pee their pants and they all drive Corvettes and they all have nice husbands and they all watch MSNBC a lot to catch a glimpse of kin. Anyone who thinks we all are this or that or not emotionally intelligent.

Yep..
 

That's true and the Minneapolis Medical Examiner listed it as a Homicide..Easy to google 100 different news outlets that confirm it was a Murder plain and simple..

You must know you can't breath and talk at the same time.. You ever been to a concert where the singer is holding a note for awhile and then is forced to stop and breathe? You heard the phrase stop and take a deep breath? That's probably going to be the cops idiot defense "Duh" I thought since he was talking he could breathe .. What a joke everyone knows you can't take air in (breathe) while you're expelling air out (talk)..