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Antique lady 06-07-2020 04:36 PM

Nearly the same percentage of white who kill whites persist. People tend to kill those who look like and are in close proximity to them. The issue of Black Lives Matter, as you know relates to unchecked killers of unarmed people of color by police officers.

According to FBI table of homicides, white on white murder rate is 81.6%

Byte1 06-07-2020 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1778886)
The police DID kill him. It wasn't "the angry mob" or "the protesters" or "the pedestrians" or "the passersby" or "the people crossing the street." And everyone would know, if you had used any of those phrases, that it wasn't ALL angry mobs, and it wouldn't have been ALL protesters, or ALL pedestrians, or ALL passersby, or ALL the people crossing the street. In any other situation, you would know that she was referring to the specific police who were there at the time. It wasn't just one police officer. It was four police officers. So the use of the plural form of "police" was accurate and appropriate.

The police DID kill him. Four police officers, to be specific. "THE" (meaning - something other than ALL) police did kill George Floyd.

Are you not using the word "police" as a plural? If I said "THE" crowd broke into the store, would I be referring to one or many? Nice Michael Jackson moon walk though.

Swoop 06-07-2020 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosemary May (Post 1779055)
He still did not deserve to be snuffed out like an insect under that officer's knee. How can you be so cruel? How can you keep doing that when the person is telling you he can't breathe and that you are killing him? He is heartless. Plus, his wife filed for divorce right away. Could he have been abusive towards her also?

Would you be less outraged if the officer was black or if Floyd was white?

tedquick 06-07-2020 05:00 PM

Evidence, please
 
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1778031)
She's assuming he was high because he had the presence of methamphetamines and fentanyl in his bloodstream. Either that or she understands full well that the amount in his bloodstream indicates that he wasn't high, and she's lying on purpose to prove a point that she isn't able to make without lying.

Not surprising for her, she does this often.

I have never know her to lie, or for that matter, stretch the truth. Please site examples. If you have solid evidence then I'll reconsider my position regarding her. I think she is one extremely bright young lady and a lady she is.

Antique lady 06-07-2020 05:01 PM

Mr. Floyd's criminal background does not absolve the officer who murdered him. Let's stop looking for reasons to say he derserved to be murdered. He did not....He may have been high, he may have been a large person but he was murdered while restrained. No way to say that's OK...

Youtube is an amazing platform. Many successful people, in popular culture, were discovered via youtube. I think several people on this thread are simply pointing out that in this tribal environment deciding what sells can boost ones prominence... This young woman is clearly aware of the impact her words will have on the group she is appealing to.

All done for me. I hope some of you will watch Netflix documentary 13, and the History Channel's documentary, Black Wall Street Massacre. No one can undo our past. No one can justify the murder of a person because they have a rap sheet. We can not absolve those few bad apples in uniform who kill unarmed people on the streets of this country.

It has been interesting to read the thoughts posted here...

Byte1 06-07-2020 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Antique lady (Post 1779444)
Nearly the same percentage of white who kill whites persist. People tend to kill those who look like and are in close proximity to them. The issue of Black Lives Matter, as you know relates to unchecked killers of unarmed people of color by police officers.

According to FBI table of homicides, white on white murder rate is 81.6%

The FBI also says that through out the past years that there is reporting on it, there were more whites EVERY year killed by blacks than blacks killed by whites. Not that this matters on this subject. It also says that more whites are killed every year than blacks by law enforcement. It is interesting how some folks WISH to make everything about "color." If Floyd was white, it would not have been made a big deal and there would have been NO protests or rioting. If the reporting was colorless, and there was no video then this whole thing would not be even discussed.

I am more concerned about the retired police Capt that was shot and killed by looters. And I think that Ms. Owens probably feels the same way. I have heard Owens speak on many occasions, either on TV or on the Internet and I find her very refreshing. She speaks with common sense and I have NEVER heard her speak in any manner that would indicate "hate."

manaboutown 06-07-2020 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Antique lady (Post 1779444)
Nearly the same percentage of white who kill whites persist. People tend to kill those who look like and are in close proximity to them. The issue of Black Lives Matter, as you know relates to unchecked killers of unarmed people of color by police officers.

According to FBI table of homicides, white on white murder rate is 81.6%

‪Interracial Violent Victimizations (Excluding Homicide) Between Blacks And Whites (2018)‬
‪Total: 593,598‬
‪Committed By Blacks Against Whites: 537,204 (approx. 90%)‬
‪Committed By Whites Against Blacks: 56,394 (less than 10%)‬
‪--Bureau of Justice Statistics‬
From Larry Elder on FB

And remember blacks are only 13% of the population; whites 60%.

eyc234 06-07-2020 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1779331)

Well stated!

The sad fact is that she, like so many others, have no clue as to what her ancestors had to suffer and go through, just so she can even just publicly express her views...regardless of how wrong-headed they are. :ohdear:

Just as so many have never stopped to even comprehend, that at the beginning of this nation, African-Americans were the ONLY immigrants...brought here in ropes and chains.
:mad:


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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1779351)

Why don't you address the subject of the thread, by using generic responses, instead of throwing out specific personal attacks...at those you don't like? :oops:

If you took personal umbrage at one of my generic statements, because you thought it applied to you...that's not my problem. :rolleyes:

Thank you.
:ho:


Okay, here are the quotes that I read. Thought I quoted your statements that are in the thread. I do not even know you, how could you think I have a feeling either way about you? I did not take that you were talking about me, just that there is a lot of assumptions and accusations on both sides being said about Ms Owens, whom no one on this forum know personally ( I would venture), that do nothing to help any situation.

Bethwill 06-07-2020 06:09 PM

His rap sheet is for real no matter the drug level in his body. Look it up.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-07-2020 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1779445)
Are you not using the word "police" as a plural? If I said "THE" crowd broke into the store, would I be referring to one or many? Nice Michael Jackson moon walk though.

Yes of course I'm using it as plural. That's the point. It wasn't just one police officer there. There were four of them, three of whom were actively restraining Floyd while he died. One of them had a knee on his neck. His spine and his legs were also being knelt on by the other two officers. Only one of the four officers was not physically restraining George Floyd. That was the Tao guy, who turned to watch the other three doing it, and made sure to prevent the people on the sidewalk from getting around the side to get a better video of what was going on.

John_W 06-07-2020 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Antique lady (Post 1779438)
Just meant that people in Tulsa that know the history of the Black Wall Street Massacre are determined to not see that horrific chapter repeat itself...

History Channel's documentary, Black Wall Street Massacre. No one can undo our past. No one can justify the murder of a person because they have a rap sheet. We can not absolve those few bad apples in uniform who kill unarmed people on the streets of this country.

I'm glad you're getting your money's worth for the History Channel. Because something happened in Tulsa 100 years ago, every white person in Tulsa walks around everyday thinking to themselves, I'm got to do better toward black folk because of the Tulsa Massacre of 1921!!!!

Does that also happen to white people in Richmond? Vicksburg?? How about black people, do they go around everyday thinking, I've got to do better toward white people because of a black man raped and killed a white woman!!!


Love2Swim 06-07-2020 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Antique lady (Post 1779457)
Mr. Floyd's criminal background does not absolve the officer who murdered him. Let's stop looking for reasons to say he derserved to be murdered. He did not....He may have been high, he may have been a large person but he was murdered while restrained. No way to say that's OK...

Youtube is an amazing platform. Many successful people, in popular culture, were discovered via youtube. I think several people on this thread are simply pointing out that in this tribal environment deciding what sells can boost ones prominence... This young woman is clearly aware of the impact her words will have on the group she is appealing to.

All done for me. I hope some of you will watch Netflix documentary 13, and the History Channel's documentary, Black Wall Street Massacre. No one can undo our past. No one can justify the murder of a person because they have a rap sheet. We can not absolve those few bad apples in uniform who kill unarmed people on the streets of this country.

It has been interesting to read the thoughts posted here...

I found some of the thoughts rather sickening, that people can be so ignorant. I'd be willing to bet most won't watch any of the documentaries because they will hear facts that do not coincide with their way of thinking and do not jive with the drivel they hear on Fox news.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-07-2020 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tedquick (Post 1779456)
I have never know her to lie, or for that matter, stretch the truth. Please site examples. If you have solid evidence then I'll reconsider my position regarding her. I think she is one extremely bright young lady and a lady she is.

This isn't any secret, it's not even new news. It made national headlines and even involved celebrities. Do a google search for "Candace Owens + Kanye West + merchandise + Blexit."

That's one. Next, look up "Candace Owens Mollie Tibbetts."

There is nothing ladylike about her. She "proudly" presents herself as an Uncle Tom. Her words. She's basically a white supremacist covered in a black woman's skin. This is also not news, most of the black community don't want to be associated with her.

manaboutown 06-07-2020 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1779499)
This isn't any secret, it's not even new news. It made national headlines and even involved celebrities. Do a google search for "Candace Owens + Kanye West + merchandise + Blexit."

That's one. Next, look up "Candace Owens Mollie Tibbetts."

There is nothing ladylike about her. She "proudly" presents herself as an Uncle Tom. Her words. She's basically a white supremacist covered in a black woman's skin. This is also not news, most of the black community don't want to be associated with her.

Candace Owens is a brave and beautiful critically thinking young lady who tells it like it is. She does not buy into all the urban myth, PC lock step brainwashing drivel that comes from the so called mainstream media. Kudos to her!

anothersteve 06-07-2020 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1779499)
This isn't any secret, it's not even new news. It made national headlines and even involved celebrities. Do a google search for "Candace Owens + Kanye West + merchandise + Blexit."

That's one. Next, look up "Candace Owens Mollie Tibbetts."

There is nothing ladylike about her. She "proudly" presents herself as an Uncle Tom. Her words. She's basically a white supremacist covered in a black woman's skin. This is also not news, most of the black community don't want to be associated with her.

Being an "Uncle Tom" then and now are two completely different beasts.
She calls out the black Liberals....NOW.........that's what she means, that's what they hate. That's why she calls herself an "Uncle Tom". I commend her for that, especially during these times.
As for the "Blexit" thing KW isn't so clean himself.

Steve


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