Okay, you can think of Two examples. I said in my reply some have attempted to. I can provide literally thousands of examples of scientists that have not been politicized so, what does that prove?

My understanding with these mRNA vaccines is that they train the immune system to recognize the pathogen, this being the Covid virus spike protein. Even if antibodies have waned to an undetectable level, the body's immune system T Cells and B Cells will spring into action and neutralize the virus, thus stopping the infectious process in its tracks. That is where the protection is derived from the vaccine.

GE.......any comments? I think you already told me that this is a correct understanding of how these mRNA vaccines work. Do I have that right?

This gives no T cell immunity......not a sterilizing vaccine, just B cell. To go full T Cell immunity an actual virus (dead) needs to be used, not a shape protein. It is impossible to have T cell immunity....vaccine is just a band aid, no different from Tylenol....gives protection of symptoms only and not the virus . :MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

If someone REALLY wants to see the anti-vaxxer movement in operation. Just watch the 1st 5 minutes of the wonderful "Tuckums" show every night at 8 PM on conTV (con for conspiracy)!

That post "cuts to the core". And drives away the clouds of MISINFORMATION that are sweeping through the US from the dark sections of the web.

Fauci's resume is impeccable. He is a legend in his field. History will remember him, not that self-promoting VETERINARIAN!

We need a vaccine against conspiracy theories and misinformation Then maybe we could get a normal America back?

It is not going to end well for Fauci....He is a phony hack.

The US blew a BIG opportunity to finish off or nearly finish off CV in the US in April and May. We could have then worked to help out the world by opening up more vaccine-producing facilities in the US and worldwide. US citizens worked basically toward one goal in WW2 - to save the world from tyranny. Now in World War CV (WWCV), as a country, we have NOT been EVEN able to SAVE ourselves (from ourselves). Today, we do NOT seem like The United States - we seem united in CHAOS only - multiple different factions and tribes are pulling the US apart, not together. How does this movie end? I wonder if the Roman Empire felt like this as it began to crumble. If a VIRUS were smart enough to laugh, it would mock our feeble attempts to irradicate it.

Oh, you mean the knuckle-dragging white supremacist hillbillies who call it a "plandemic" and think George Soros, Bill Gates and Obama are behind the whole thing at China's direction?

Well, you'd be wrong. Those refusing to get vaccinated are not right wing nutjobs nor Tucker Carlson/Fox News lovers but minorities - black and Latinos - who distrust the government that takes care of them, cradle to grave. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you!

These are supposed to be their peeps and they have pooped on their vaccination agenda! They've offered them money, incentives, in California the idiot governor is on TV spinning the lottery wheel where newly vaccinated folks are entered, they've done outreach, special vaccine clinics at parks and shopping malls. Latino men, still full of the old-school machismo, think it will make them impotent or sterile. Blacks think it's another Tuskegee experiment at their expense. And then there's the young. Well, they're supposed to be stupid, right? Full of bravado, thinking they're invincible and nothing can hurt them.

Maybe you shouldn't be so self-righteous, judgmental, sneering, and stereotyping, and realize this pandemic is all about FEAR. Fear of the virus, which I see plenty of on this forum, and fear of an experimental vaccine and its possible, unknown side effects. Both reactions are normal and human so stop trivializing and mocking other people's pain and anxiety.

After almost 2 years , nobody really knows

I would read a link on that!

It is still possible to be "objective". For example, 97% of all medical Doctors have received CV shots. That fact makes a BIG impression on me. Still, in today's strange, dark media mess, some are still shilling for no vaccines and no masks. Yes, I am looking at you........Tuckums.

According to this article, mRNA vaccines do induce memory T Cell response.......

Do mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines induce memory T cell response similar to natural infection?

That's good news, if correct but it said the article hasn't been peer-reviewed yet.