This thread is shocking in its ignorance
 

I'm not. just referring to this post but all those that criticize the removal of the glorification of men who were traitors and fought against the United States of America.

This comment is exactly what causes issues. Jumping to conclusions without knowing what the poster meant. How about it meaning that some people are just jumping into the crowd and have no clue whats going on. Its called the mob mentality

how sad to hear this

I don't watch NASCAR...never have, never will...that's not even as much fun as watching grass grow...

I agree with you about some of this. I believe in showing things as they were or as people thought they were, even if wrong. (From what I hear, much of what Margaret Mitchell wrote about race relations was highly romanticized.) I loved “Song of the South” and the singing crows in “Dumbo.”

However, as a vet, you might like to consider this thought about the statues and military bases. Most of the Confederate generals went to West Point, and when they entered the U.S. Army, they swore solemn oaths to uphold and protect the United States of America. Then they broke their oaths, turned traitor, and took up arms against the country they had promised to protect and tried to destroy it. Why should we have these generals celebrated on our town squares? Why should traitors like Bragg and Pickett and Beauregard have their names on military bases? (And is it significant that there is no Camp Longstreet, given that he repented, became friends with Grant, and led African-American troops?)

Robert E. Lee is a distant relative of mine (through his wife), and I was born in Virginia, and some of my ancestors fought and even died for the South (though one was a captain under Sherman when they rode through Georgia). Even so, I think this is worth considering, on the basis of whether oaths matter.

What sort term memory you'll must have, have you forgotten the constant stream of news clips depicting ISIS, destroying artifacts, temples etc.--because they deemed them unfit for the way they wanted things to be.

Agree....because those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat.

Exactly! :thumbup:

Tones of IsIs

It's About Control
 

Think about it, we're being told what "to think." The controllers are trying to change history by removing the statues and mouments recording it. As it is most millennial know little about anything prior to the Vietnam war, to them even that it ancient history. Live PD and Cops have been removed from our TV screens. Why, is someone afraid we will see life as it really is? This whole effort is how Stalin, Hitler, Castro and every other dictator came to power. It's like the Taliban blasting religious icons from the mountains in Afghanistan. That was bad THERE but it's okay to do it here. You can't change history by trying to erase it, it's still history.

It really doesn't matter. IT REALLY doesn't, in the context of today and it's issues. To me what matters is lack of personal responsibility. AND empathy. Does anyone ever not smile back at you because you like or dislike Christopher Columbus? Does anyone ever not smile back at you because of your color? That began to happen to me after Trayvon Martin was killed. I didn't do anything wrong but people are mad at me.

People are using propaganda to rile up people as if it isn't bad enough. People are ignoring important stuff in order to get all het up. People are looking to get mad. You cannot legislate morality and you can't make lazy people work, but you can pass laws that at least on the face of things makes thing equal. People are gonna be grungy awful and bully weaker people and make fun of people with less and those with handicaps, and people are going to continue to talk down to nice people who worked hard and never did anything wrong but get a speeding ticket when they were 17.

People see what they want to see. Patience goes a long way to solve the problems of the world and also working for a living and saving some money for when things go down the drain so you don't have to have your hand out to the "gubmunt" or pass a fake twenty.....let alone, all should try to stay off the sauce. No matter if the sauce is too many martini's or Fentynal.

Choro&Swing, I also am a Vet and I totally agree with your comment about honoring oaths/pledges/commitments.

I wonder how many of today's demonstrators would actually 'answer the call' like our forefathers did in WWII and Korea and so many of us did during the Viet Nam era on our own or when our number was called?

I'm guessing that these protestors have all made the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag at some point during their young lives.

My hope is that they are never 'tested'...

It amazes me the people opposed to the destruction of history will not start to protest. The squeaky wheel gets oiled and the people who yell the loudest get their way. We are all Americans and history cannot be changed why do we want to change it now!

As a former teacher, it is not that they do a poor job teaching history in school. When you are taught at home by parents who teach you these issues it is bound to be ingrained in you. Students will usually learn the information for the test but it does not mean that they really believe those things. Speaking from many years of experience…

Cecil John Rhodes has a statue at Oxford University, and he too has fallen foul of the PC protest.
His statue is to be removed.
However, no one is giving up their Rhodes Scholarships, the oldest, and most prestigeous scholarship at the university in protest, and I am pretty sure, refusing one in the future!!