That was sssssoooooo beautiful Zen doggie, dog and I like your cars. "putting the genie in the tub" was (I hope) pun intended. Either way, it is QUITE funny. Hope that genie does not drown in that tub! Needs a lifeguard.

Great post. Thanks for taking the trouble. Posts like that are illuminating.

Very well thought out and well written post and these views I have thought about for years. At one time University of Cincinnati was researching whether the measles virus could or does reemerge as MS. There is so much that we are learning as genetics is used more and more to unlock medical problems.

A Federal Department set up to prevent CV was working on a vaccine when its budget was scrapped 3 years ago.

Not true. The nursing homes managers in NY begged Cuomo not to put COVID positive in their nursing homes. They told him they did not have the facilities to handle regular nursing home patients and COVID patients too. He threatened to take away their nursing home license. Cuomo handled that, not the Feds.

The US has 4% of the world's population and 30% of the world's deaths due to covid 19
The US people spend by far the most for health cost.
Why is this?

I do not believe for one second that Governor Cuomo or the Federal Government or anyone wants to do harm. I think this damn bug has put us all over a barrel. It is less than six months and this new virus is cutting a caper and attacking us in a myriad of ways and it has not really allowed times for all the great minds of the world to know just what IS the best thing to do in many cases. ANYONE who thinks they have it all figured out enough to really be able to know what to do next has not emerged in the fray. We have liars, deniers, and criers. We have hoaxes and plots and conspiracies. We have everybody peddling as fast as they can, and it is not simple. It can destroy life and the economic structure that supports all of us. I am not a scholar but it does remind me of King Solomon in the bible who had two women who both said an infant was theirs and he said that the only thing he could think to do is to divide it with his sword. This is a problem much like that one.

Be safe. Don't kiss the UPS man. Take your vitamins and wouldn't hurt to find your rosary.

I guess any excuse will do to support your position. NY had enough ventilators but decided to auction them off in 2016. China purchased all of the PPE when Covid started there but decide to NOT close their airport to the outside world. Mixing Covid with non-Covid was the decision of the governors not the Fed.

I can suggest two possible reasons:

1) Mobility - as a %, there are far more people moving around in, and going into and out of, the USA than, say, India or China (each having 18% of the World's population) so the virus came into the US at many entry points and got quickly spread around; and

2) Accuracy of reporting - many deaths in the outlying regions of India and China may have not been recorded as Covid-related, and the reporting may not even have reached the national statistics yet. With 2.8bn people between them, it wouldn't take much of a change in their actual Covid-related death rate to send them rocketing past the US in terms of actual numbers of deaths.

Agreed with rate per million a better metric than raw numbers however still not an accurate picture. Somehow it needs to be combined with population density per sq mile or acre or something. For example about rate per million not a totally accurate picture is to say Antarctica has experienced 0 deaths per million.My seasonal home is near the border of Canada in New York State. Thus far in this county there is 0 deaths and 40 confirmed cases. Independent of population that is a death rate of 0 per million as compared to the 1665 per million published for all of New York State. So my intuition tells me you year rounders in TV think you are better off being in Florida than New York. Before you jump do you feel better off in TV than Miami - get the message ? Well you can't beat 0 death rate plus it's mid 70 degrees and low humidity here in the mountains. Also the people in this county are taking mask and social distancing to levels tens of times higher than that of TV when I left for the summer. And yes I voluntarily quarantined for 14 days when I arrived.

I don't know why any of you insist on looking at other countries for answers. To suggest that other countries pay less for health care is is like comparing Chinese laborers to our union workers. Why do we pay more? For one thing, socialist countries take about half of your pay check in payroll taxes to pay for state run health care. Do you want to halve your pay check? We also have more CT machines and other diagnostic machines than most of the world combined. Our doctors have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars per year in malpractice insurance. Lawyers in one country that I know of work as security guards for our embassy because we pay more than they can make. I know one pediatrician in another country that works as a receptionist in our health unit in our embassy. Why? Because they do not make any money in socialist countries and we pay better. Be careful of what you wish for. Do you really want to sacrifice your liberty/freedom just to give the gov. control of the most important aspects of your lives? Don't preach to others about how great other countries are until you have lived in those countries. Better yet, try living in those other countries as one of their citizens. And you wonder why we have millions that want to come and live here in America?

Mass hysteria is prevalent in America. Isn't it interesting to find out that you can't control EVERYTHING in life?

I remember when AIDS was the greatest scare. Children that were infected with HIV were sent home from school and not allowed to attend around other children. Workers were let go if it was discovered they were infected. The world as we know it was ending.

Remember SARS?
I'm old but not old enough to remember Small Pox. But that was a bad one too. I do remember the vaccinations though. Same with polio.
How about the plague? I do remember getting a plague shot in the military, as well as Typhus.

The point is that eventually someone will decide on how to modify our behavior so that we can live reasonably normal lives again.

I live in Sumter Co. Out of all those tested positive for COVID19 in The Villages, my understanding is that only 8 or 9 Villages residents have actually died from the virus (in Sumter Co). I do not wish to become infected to test my theory but it seems to me that the death rate to positive tests is less than a hundredth of a percent. Just a guesstimate, so I am sure someone with better knowledge and better math skills will come on here and correct me. Thank you in advance.

From what I understand, The Villages hospital is not over run yet.

Excellent post❗️ My son in NYC keeps beating me up with Florida’s recent uptick in cases - now I can fight back with your stats 🤪

Covid-19 Death Rate
 

The math here is very off- "the death rate to positive tests is less than a hundredth of a percent." The death rate for everyone getting Covid-19 is running around 5% world-wide. The death rate, if you are 70-79 is around 16%, as published by a link to the CDC by a previous poster. That is my age group. I do not like those odds, so my wife and I are taking every precaution. This is not PANICKING as some posters like to accuse, this is being realistic. This pandemic is not a hoax, this is not political, this is not a "scamdemic" as I have read here. This is a deadly health crises that severely affects older people more than younger ones. If everyone had taken this seriously back in March, we would be through this. It is the people who don't wear masks, who gather in large groups, who compare this to the flu, who don't take precautions- those are the people spreading this deadly virus and killing people who catch it.

Save this graph and email it to him.

NY deaths per million vs Florida Texas Arizona combined

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I keep track of the same figures each week.
You forgot a very important number:
China 3 (per million)

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