The Department of Energy also says that, if you install solar panels on your roof, it will increase the value of your house. Totally not true.

Truth Press ?????huh?????? When I see an EV comparison put out by the NY Times or the Wall Street Journal, then I will believe it. Why should ANY government stimulus money be added to the cost of owning and operating an EV? The government's job is to PUSH SOCIETY in the CORRECT direction and they are doing that because operating gasoline vehicles is causing Global Warming and South Pole glaciers to melt into the sea (raising sea level and threatening cities like Miami, NY, and even Washington.
......We complain when the government does NOT do its job. Here people are complaining because the Government is doing its job.....go figure!
........The US has 8% sales of Electric new car vehicles - Europe has 20% - because their gas prices are so high.
.........That article reflects what the RICH automotive executives and oil executives want YOU the common man to think. It is propaganda designed to keep the gas auto industry BELCHING along, belching out poisonous gases, poisonous to humans and the planet Earth.
......Eventually, the gasoline vehicle will be replaced by an electric vehicle and maybe (possibly) a hydrogen energy cell.

Interesting about icebergs melting and cities being threatened. When I fill a glass with ice and water the ice will melt, but the level of water stays the same. Got to figure if that compares to melting icebergs raising the sea level how many feet.

For an in depth review look at EV vs. Gas: Which Cars Are Cheaper to Own?

Wrong thread and this has been covered several times.

Melting icebergs floating in the sea will not raise the sea level due to the water in the iceberg but it will raise the level very slightly as as that water warms. The water in your glass does rise very slightly due to the water expanding as it warms but this is too little to measure.

Glaciers on land *do* raise the sea level when they break off and become icebergs. Try putting the ice in a strainer above your glass and see what happens then when it melts.

it really isn't all that confusing, however the part I am looking for the is cost of the recharge, it's not free.

The part though that everyone has completely missed on this topic is this.

If somehow you can 'drown' aka bankrupt all the car manufacturers in this country, (just like groceries in Chicago) you are then forced to have a government created and run auto manufacturer. It's just that simple.

The electric motor in an E-vehicle is almost unbreakable and does NOT almost ever need repair. It is much more dependable than a piston flopper engine. So, what if your gas vehicle overheats and throws a piston or the automatic transmission starts slipping? How do you put a price on the lesser reliability of the gas engine vehicle?
.......We are in the equivalent of 1900 in the development of the E-vehicle. In a few years, there will be NO COMPARISON with the E-vehicle being VASTLY superior!

Excellent post!

There it IS. Straight talk from a REAL owner!

Not sure about the cost quoted but if you consider all the factors owning an EV is probably close to 3 time that of a gas vehicle. And don’t forget about resale of an EV… no one will want an old EV unless you are selling dirt cheap. Let’s also consider the huge hassle of driving an EV anywhere other than local. The cost of the public fast chargers is very high (double or triple) the cost of gas.

All these claims, other than the resale which few if any have experienced, have been disputed by those who actually own an EV. Do you have anything to back up your claims and prove them wrong?

Sounds like you may have never seen an actual iceberg or understand what they are.

They are literally massive chunks of snow and ice that are floating on top of the oceans with a weight usually ranging from 100k tonnes to 10 million tons each. Average size is around the equivalent of a 15 foot skyscraper. There are several millions of these icebergs, so it's not hard to do the math and understand that it will raise the water levels.

An iceberg is nothing like an ice cube. Ice cubes don't float on top of the liquid in your glass.

You do know that these figures include many things, not just charging costs which can vary depending on what the local utility charges per kWh and how much the charging station wants to charge you. As for Ford losing a lot of $$$$ on their EV’s, check this out:
https://www.auto123.com/en/news/ford...-32000/70571/#

Also, each state will be assessing each EV owner some kind of mileage tax since we pay for roads thru the sale of gasoline. This will be a new expense for EV owners.
How about the battery disposal cost for the EV owner?
The Costs and Potential Benefits of Investing in Sustainable Electric Car Battery Disposal Practices

Ev’s don’t need maintenance or servicing? Wrong. If you look at the Kelley blue book website, you will see this:

Our experts found that over five years, the owner of a Tesla Model 3 can expect to spend an estimated $3,115 on maintenance, or $623 annually. That’s slightly higher than many gas-powered competitors. For example, maintenance for the Genesis G70 costs $2,621 over five years.

Maintaining Your Tesla: Everything You Need To Know - Kelley Blue Book

The largest maintenance cost is the replacement of the battery. In so many years, the owner will have to pay for a new battery which will cost many thousands of $$$$ plus disposal fee. This cost alone is greater than the cost of a gas powered engine rebuild, if 1 is needed in this short period of time. I know of Porsches and Mercedes with engines over 300,000 miles that haven’t had anything major done to their engines, and then you have diesel engines that can go double those miles before a major overhaul.

The article is completely ridiculous and just more propaganda from the "I hate electric vehicles people" who also hate anything remotely beneficial to the environment, deny climate change, don't believe in science, & think coal & oil will last forever.

It amazes me that so many still are talking about the cost of replacing a battery. IT DOESN'T HAPPEN. With a warranty of eight years or more, any replacement cost will be covered. And you know companies are not going broke replacing batteries.

Battery disposal cost? If all these batteries are being replaced by the owners then there would be some information on this cost. There is no information, likely because the cost does not exist but few would even know since batteries are not being replaced.

Mileage charge? WHEN it happens it will be something to think about. IF it happens it will likely be about $200 per year. Remember, states are currently paying people to purchase EVs, it might be some time before they turn that around and start charging them.

Maintenance costs? It would be interesting to hear from some owners just what their maintenance costs are. For example, do Teslas truly require two wheel alignments every year and do Tesla owners really have that work done?

Clearly, there are dozens of articles on how expensive owning an EV ought to be or how much experts calculate maintenance should cost or how much a replacement battery might set you back. What there doesn't seem to be are dozens of articles from regretful Tesla owners with sticker shock. I wonder why.