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jimjamuser 05-01-2021 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1935157)
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FINALLY! Perhaps some 'common sense'...
I would bet that public pressure and pushback from the continual draconian measures dictated by Fauci and CDC...

News>

Fauci acknowledges outdoor COVID-19 transmission 'low,' expects updated mask guidance
Fauci said the risk for infection in an outdoor setting is 'minuscule'


Dr. Anthony Fauci believes the Centers for Disease Control will soon provide updated COVID-19 guidance on using face masks in outdoor settings, calling it "common sense" to do so.

Face masks have taken an increasingly central role in debate lately as many question the continued and widespread use of masks even as vaccinations continue to soar nationwide. A Georgia mother went viral this week after she sounded off on her local school board continuing its mask mandate through next year.Fauci agrees with some of that thought, saying that the risk for people engaging in outdoor activities is "minuscule," especially for vaccinated individuals.
"What I believe you’re going to be hearing, what the country is going to be hearing soon, is updated guidelines from the CDC," Fauci told ABC’s "This Week." "The CDC is a science-based organization. They don’t want to make any guidelines unless they look at the data and the data backs it up."

"But when you look around at the common sense situation, the risk is really low, especially if you’re vaccinated," he said.

Hey, Dr. Fauci is my GOD! Be nice!

jimjamuser 05-01-2021 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1937844)
Perhaps SOME folks do not know any of the younger generation. Perhaps SOME folks think their OPINION is more valid than others and therefore accuse others of being "useless" for having their own opinion.
FACT: PA has a surplus of vaccine that may be destroyed because they cannot get folks to accept the FREE shots being given away. Just one point of evidence.
Interesting how some folks attempt to appeal to others by using a lack of religious knowledge in a desperate attempt to convince a weak argument.

An argument is NOT a person - therefore you can NOT "convince an argument"???????

jimjamuser 05-01-2021 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1937852)
Not exactly true. According to the CDC, about 1% of breakthroughs have resulted in death (based on 95 million full vaccinations). The good news is that it is 1% of an already very low number (0.008% of fully vaccinated people were breakthroughs, probably underreported however). Really amazing numbers.

COVID-19 Breakthrough Case Investigations and Reporting | CDC

OK, I rounded up a little. I doubt that I get sued.

stanley 05-01-2021 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1938185)
Hey, Dr. Fauci is my GOD! Be nice!

What would Jesus say?

tuccillo 05-02-2021 01:55 AM

Not rounding, just wrong. Yep, you won't be sued.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1938188)
OK, I rounded up a little. I doubt that I get sued.


MDLNB 05-02-2021 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1938190)
What would Jesus say?


:boom: :boom: and :boom:

MDLNB 05-02-2021 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1938223)
Not rounding, just wrong. Yep, you won't be sued.


Drop the mic on that one!! :boom:

MDLNB 05-02-2021 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1938187)
An argument is NOT a person - therefore you can NOT "convince an argument"???????


Interesting how you diverted that one. I am sure some of us would disagree.

MDLNB 05-02-2021 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1938185)
Hey, Dr. Fauci is my GOD! Be nice!


My GOD can perform miracles. When is the last time fauci even healed someone? He's about 50 years out of "practice" I believe. Not to disparage the lil guy, but if you are giving him your faith as Divinity, then I believe that you are in for an unpleasant surprise in the future.

jimjamuser 05-02-2021 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1938505)
Interesting how you diverted that one. I am sure some of us would disagree.

Just trying to be helpful with the English syntax!

Bay Kid 05-03-2021 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1938508)
My GOD can perform miracles. When is the last time fauci even healed someone? He's about 50 years out of "practice" I believe. Not to disparage the lil guy, but if you are giving him your faith as Divinity, then I believe that you are in for an unpleasant surprise in the future.

Fauci is an overpaid pollical pawn, used to control the people.

rustyp 05-03-2021 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1938185)
Hey, Dr. Fauci is my GOD! Be nice!

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Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1938190)
What would Jesus say?


Is that you Dad ?

DeanFL 05-03-2021 10:02 AM

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GrumpyOldMan 05-03-2021 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MSchad (Post 1932613)
If you've had your vaccinations and believe you are protected, why worry anymore if that person or that person may not have been vaccinated? Throw your mask away and enjoy life. Or are you not totally sold on the vaccinations actually working?

The "moving target" is normal science. It is how science works. It makes recommendations based on the best available information and when the information changes the advice changes.

Why worry?

Because some of us care about what happens to other people as a result of our personal choices and actions.

Because some of us care about our country and getting it back to work., and are willing to take a minimal risk to do our part to help.

Because some of us prefer to rely on the advice of experts in the field when making life or death decisions.

Lots of reasons, to worry. Especially since so many Americans feel compelled to argue about everything, and ignore science.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-03-2021 10:36 AM

What would jesus say? Well if I've learned anything from the new testament and the lessons it teaches about morality, ethics, spreading lies and manipulating facts in order to get a world's savior murdered...

I think jesus would say:

"forgive them for they know not what they do."

and at the same time, he would say "god why hast thou forsaken me?"

and he would also be thinking, "ffs smh"

Bucco 05-03-2021 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1938980)
What would jesus say? Well if I've learned anything from the new testament and the lessons it teaches about morality, ethics, spreading lies and manipulating facts in order to get a world's savior murdered...

I think jesus would say:

"forgive them for they know not what they do."

and at the same time, he would say "god why hast thou forsaken me?"

and he would also be thinking, "ffs smh"

Ok, I will gladly, as always, show my lack of intelligence...

What does "ffs smh" indicate ?

Just got a PM with an explanation. I got it and agree. Wondered how he handles the liars when they consistently say its them being picked on or refers HIM to a website of a questionable nature !

Tmarkwald 05-03-2021 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1938980)
What would jesus say? Well if I've learned anything from the new testament and the lessons it teaches about morality, ethics, spreading lies and manipulating facts in order to get a world's savior murdered...

I think jesus would say:

"forgive them for they know not what they do."

and at the same time, he would say "god why hast thou forsaken me?"

and he would also be thinking, "ffs smh"

right on!

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 05-03-2021 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MSchad (Post 1932613)
If you've had your vaccinations and believe you are protected, why worry anymore if that person or that person may not have been vaccinated? Throw your mask away and enjoy life. Or are you not totally sold on the vaccinations actually working?

I find that a bit inconsiderate of our fellow human beings.

I've been fully vaccinated but not everyone that wants to has been able to. Once you are vaccinated, you can still contact the virus and spread it. In light of that, I will continue to wear a mask and distance myself while indoors in public places. I do this not for me but for those around me.

I will not however fall for the hysteria that seems to be around about people outdoors. From the beginning Dr Fauci and other leading experts have agreed that the chances of contracting this virus outdoors is pretty close to zero. I think that there has been a big learning curve for Fauci and other experts but they have been consistent on this point from day one. Why they continue to insist on people wearing masks outdoors is beyond me. It's probably that they are trying to get people to be super, super careful and they want to cover their butts in the event that someone does catch it while outdoors.

I don't wear a mask out doors because it seems to me to be absurd. I know that a large number of people have gotten this virus and a large number have died from it but in terms of percentages the numbers are really very low. The chance of catching Covid is very low to begin with and the chance of catching it outdoors is very close to zero.

golfing eagles 05-03-2021 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1938994)
I find that a bit inconsiderate of our fellow human beings.

I've been fully vaccinated but not everyone that wants to has been able to. Once you are vaccinated, you can still contact the virus and spread it. In light of that, I will continue to wear a mask and distance myself while indoors in public places. I do this not for me but for those around me.

I will not however fall for the hysteria that seems to be around about people outdoors. From the beginning Dr Fauci and other leading experts have agreed that the chances of contracting this virus outdoors is pretty close to zero. I think that there has been a big learning curve for Fauci and other experts but they have been consistent on this point from day one. Why they continue to insist on people wearing masks outdoors is beyond me. It's probably that they are trying to get people to be super, super careful and they want to cover their butts in the event that someone does catch it while outdoors.

I don't wear a mask out doors because it seems to me to be absurd. I know that a large number of people have gotten this virus and a large number have died from it but in terms of percentages the numbers are really very low. The chance of catching Covid is very low to begin with and the chance of catching it outdoors is very close to zero.

For the last time (but I doubt it will be the last time), NO YOU CAN'T

Tmarkwald 05-03-2021 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1938994)

Not everyone has been able to get vaccinated.

At this point, with vaccines getting thrown away because they expire, Anyone who wanted to get vaccinated has been vaccinated.

I, as well, find it absurd that vaccinated people should wear masks to protect people who refuse the vaccination.

CDC wants Vaccinated people to wear a mask incase they come in contact with an anti-vaxxer who might spread it?

Crazy.

If you are an anti-vaxxer and have Covid, all you spread it to is ANOTHER anti-vaxxer.

You made your choice to not be protected. You can pay the price.

MDLNB 05-03-2021 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1938997)
For the last time (but I doubt it will be the last time), NO YOU CAN'T


Once again, THANK YOU for repeating it. Apparently, those that say they believe in science, do not believe it enough to have confidence in it. I hope you will not get tired of repeating the message. Maybe we can get on with life once they start listening.

coffeebean 05-03-2021 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1938980)
What would jesus say? Well if I've learned anything from the new testament and the lessons it teaches about morality, ethics, spreading lies and manipulating facts in order to get a world's savior murdered...

I think jesus would say:

"forgive them for they know not what they do."

and at the same time, he would say "god why hast thou forsaken me?"

and he would also be thinking, "ffs smh"

OMG.....too funny!

coffeebean 05-03-2021 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tmarkwald (Post 1939000)
At this point, with vaccines getting thrown away because they expire, Anyone who wanted to get vaccinated has been vaccinated.

I, as well, find it absurd that vaccinated people should wear masks to protect people who refuse the vaccination.

CDC wants Vaccinated people to wear a mask incase they come in contact with an anti-vaxxer who might spread it?

Crazy.

If you are an anti-vaxxer and have Covid, all you spread it to is ANOTHER anti-vaxxer.

You made your choice to not be protected. You can pay the price.

I do agree with you and have said all along that I will not protect anti-vaxxers, non - vaxxers, anti- Covid vaxxers, and non-Covid vaxxers. Having said that, are you absolutely sure everyone who wants the vaccine has gotten their vaccine? I don't want to unmask until I'm very sure of that.

I must say that I'm seeing more and more customers entering local retail stores and restaurants without masks. The employees are still masking but I would imagine that is because their employers mandate them to be masked. I'm going to wait it out some more time to unmask.

Gulfcoast 05-03-2021 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tmarkwald (Post 1939000)
At this point, with vaccines getting thrown away because they expire, Anyone who wanted to get vaccinated has been vaccinated.

I, as well, find it absurd that vaccinated people should wear masks to protect people who refuse the vaccination.

CDC wants Vaccinated people to wear a mask incase they come in contact with an anti-vaxxer who might spread it?

Crazy.

If you are an anti-vaxxer and have Covid, all you spread it to is ANOTHER anti-vaxxer.

You made your choice to not be protected. You can pay the price.

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the people who are opting not to get the vaccine are not the people who are still demanding that people wear masks nor are they expecting anyone else to protect them.

Tmarkwald 05-03-2021 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1939023)
I do agree with you and have said all along that I will not protect anti-vaxxers, non - vaxxers, anti- Covid vaxxers, and non-Covid vaxxers. Having said that, are you absolutely sure everyone who wants the vaccine has gotten their vaccine? I don't want to unmask until I'm very sure of that.

I must say that I'm seeing more and more customers entering local retail stores and restaurants without masks. The employees are still masking but I would imagine that is because their employers mandate them to be masked. I'm going to wait it out some more time to unmask.

hey - I agree! But It seems like everywhere I go I see 'Covid-19 vaccine now available with no appointment'. At the V clinic. there were 8 nurses on their phones and one guy getting a vaccination and they were getting ready to throw away the day's supply of Pfizer - about 200 doses...

They are begging people to get vaccinated. At this point it is personal choice. But I'm patient. I just hope people come to their senses so the number of funerals drop as people realize vaccination is the only way to get protection...

coffeebean 05-03-2021 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1938983)
Ok, I will gladly, as always, show my lack of intelligence...

What does "ffs smh" indicate ?

Just got a PM with an explanation. I got it and agree. Wondered how he handles the liars when they consistently say its them being picked on or refers HIM to a website of a questionable nature !

I spend half my life (bit of hyperbole) looking up these social media short cuts. Now when I see the ones I'm used to, it is just like reading the actual words. Am I regressing to a teenager??? I doubt it!!!

Bucco 05-03-2021 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1939028)
I spend half my life (bit of hyperbole) looking up these social media short cuts. Now when I see the ones I'm used to, it is just like reading the actual words. Am I regressing to a teenager??? I doubt it!!!

I know what you mean. As someone who takes lying and enabling of liars (for any reason) to be serious, I often think what these folks believe will happen when they "face the music". Do they really think that pushing lies and liars will set well with HIM. .do they not know HE looks into your soul, so he knows, and I see no way out for them.

Then add the lies surrounding this pandemic, most pushed by the same folks, and you must then pray for their salvation frankly.

Too serious ? Ok, but gotta brush up on the new shorthand.

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-03-2021 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1939028)
I spend half my life (bit of hyperbole) looking up these social media short cuts. Now when I see the ones I'm used to, it is just like reading the actual words. Am I regressing to a teenager??? I doubt it!!!

I play MUDs with around 200 other players ranging in age between 18 and 59 (I'm the oldest at 60, effective tomorrow). The average player is in his/her 30's. So I'm around this jargon ALL THE TIME. idk but u get used 2 it after awhile

coffeebean 05-03-2021 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1939046)
I know what you mean. As someone who takes lying and enabling of liars (for any reason) to be serious, I often think what these folks believe will happen when they "face the music". Do they really think that pushing lies and liars will set well with HIM. .do they not know HE looks into your soul, so he knows, and I see no way out for them.

Then add the lies surrounding this pandemic, most pushed by the same folks, and you must then pray for their salvation frankly.

Too serious ? Ok, but gotta brush up on the new shorthand.

I'm not quite sure what your response means to my comment about "social media short cuts". I was talking about the short cut for "ffs smh". LOL. I did not refer to anything regarding lies or what ever else you said in your response to me.

I was just making a joke and quipping about the social media short cut slang stuff. LOL.

coffeebean 05-03-2021 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1939069)
I play MUDs with around 200 other players ranging in age between 18 and 59 (I'm the oldest at 60, effective tomorrow). The average player is in his/her 30's. So I'm around this jargon ALL THE TIME. idk but u get used 2 it after awhile

OK....you got me now. What is MUDs? Is this what you are referring to?

MUD - Wikipedia

So sorry to the OP for going OT.

jimjamuser 05-03-2021 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1939069)
I play MUDs with around 200 other players ranging in age between 18 and 59 (I'm the oldest at 60, effective tomorrow). The average player is in his/her 30's. So I'm around this jargon ALL THE TIME. idk but u get used 2 it after awhile

Happy 2morrow Bday!

jimjamuser 05-03-2021 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1938724)
Fauci is an overpaid pollical pawn, used to control the people.

Dr. Fauci is a diligent hard-working Medical scientist that deserves a HERO's parade everywhere he goes and is to be admired NOT denigrated by uninformed cult worshippers.

jimjamuser 05-03-2021 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1938742)
Is that you Dad ?

Yes son, good job paying attention. Now go clean your room and then take out the trash!

jimjamuser 05-03-2021 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1938223)
Not rounding, just wrong. Yep, you won't be sued.

A missed opportunity to say - not rounding, just wrongING.......Ha,Ha.....and tee hee!

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-03-2021 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1939081)
OK....you got me now. What is MUDs? Is this what you are referring to?

MUD - Wikipedia

So sorry to the OP for going OT.

Yup that's what I mean. Mine is an RPI called ArmageddonMUD. It has its own wikipedia entry, it's the longest-running RPI on the internet, and one of the original 3 with Harshlands and Shadows of Isildur being the other two.

Urban Dictionary: RPI
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Armageddon (MUD - Wikipedia)
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armageddon.org (you might get a security error - the error is erroneous, you can bypass that)

Topspinmo 05-03-2021 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by roscoguy (Post 1933134)
Oh boy, here we go again... :ohdear: In your own words: "Only 1 in 13,000 people who were fully vaccinated got COVID, and probably fewer than that could "pass it on"", followed by "stop posting that you can still get and pass on COVID if you are vaccinated"! Just a tad contradictory, don't ya' think??? And I've still seen no recognized authorities claim that the possibility of transmission is a rumor/myth. If you have, please post a link.

I personally don't claim to be a member of any such organization :icon_wink: but I do know how to use a search engine as well as read past the first line of whatever hit gives me a warm feeling. (Not to mention posting links to pertinent information that I quote.) More context from the CDC on this issue of breakthrough cases:
"There will be a small percentage of people who are fully vaccinated who still get sick, are hospitalized, or die from COVID-19."
"Asymptomatic infections among vaccinated people also will occur."
and "It is important to note that reported vaccine breakthrough cases will represent an undercount. This surveillance system is passive and relies on voluntary reporting from state health departments which may not be complete. Also, not all real-world breakthrough cases will be identified because of lack of testing. This is particularly true in instances of asymptomatic or mild illness.". These cherries from COVID-19 Breakthrough Case Investigations and Reporting | CDC

From another CDC page:
"If you get COVID-19 after vaccination, your symptoms might be less severe

Even though a small percentage of fully vaccinated people will get sick, vaccination will protect most people from getting sick. There also is some evidence that vaccination may make illness less severe in people who get vaccinated but still get sick. Despite this, some fully vaccinated people will still be hospitalized and die.
" What You Should Know About the Possibility of COVID-19 Illness After Vaccination | CDC
So far as I know, the CDC hasn't said outright that those fully vaccinated and subsequently hospitalized cannot spread the virus.

Don’t doubt the great Oz. :)

Topspinmo 05-03-2021 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1938997)
For the last time (but I doubt it will be the last time), NO YOU CAN'T


Yes, Oz

Malsua 05-03-2021 07:57 PM

Sorry, drifted off there for a second...

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-03-2021 08:05 PM

Sorry everyone for causing the derailment of this topic! Anyone wanting to ask about (or reminisce about) MUDs and similar, I opened a new thread in Just for Fun!
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...morpgs-319245/

golfing eagles 05-04-2021 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1939149)
Yes, Oz

That's right-----and just like the scarecrow, there are some on TOTV that desperately need a BRAIN!


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