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Spalumbos62 03-16-2022 10:24 AM

I would like it to pass, no more changing the clocks all over the house, the thermostat, the microwave and especially the huge clock way up high near the cathedral ceiling...if you have one of these...you feel my pain.lol

mlmarr 03-16-2022 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2072970)
I don't recall legislation being passed before? Did I forget it?

florida voted to stay on DLS time a few years ago.. DC is holding it up..

meme5x 03-16-2022 11:34 AM

Am so excited.. so depressing turning clocks back in the fall!

MartinSE 03-16-2022 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2073136)
I prefer light in the AM so how do we make everyone happy?

One approach would be to redesign all the clocks so that they drift the correct amount (a tiny bit) every day. The we never need to make the entire change on one day. But, I expect that might not be practical :)

MartinSE 03-16-2022 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jscocco (Post 2073226)
Let’s see if Pelosi puts in any pork before the vote. We haven’t had a stand alone bill presented in years.

Just can't avoid some political statement can we.

It was a fun little nonsense post, and someone had to bring in politics.

Oh well...

drcar 03-16-2022 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Guitarman1951 (Post 2073105)
In1973, the nation went to full time DST. After one year, that was changed back. The reason was that so many children were killed walking to bus stops or school in the dark, people demanded that it be changed back. Evidently, we haven't learned from history.

According to the logic you are using, it would seem that we would hear about a lot of children getting killed in Arizona since they have been on DST for years. Also back in 1973 we did not have the high quality head lights. Accidents will still happen, but not just because of the change in time.

drcar 03-16-2022 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by lindaelane (Post 2073237)
I am grieving.

Dark mornings, forever.

The sun shining when I am ready for bed many months of the year.

Deprived of the ability to enjoy sunset and then twilight for many months of the year.

School children waiting for buses in perpetual darkness most of the year, though they would have both left for school and come home in the light if this had not been done.

I think it is a horrible thing.

I have other reasons to consider living abroad but this certainly has added to my list.

The horror of a world where there are fewer sunsets to be seen, where mornings are always dark. I am so sad.

This to shall pass!

coffeebean 03-16-2022 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2072920)
Well, for me at least there is GOOD news!

The Senate has passed legislation making DST permanent in 2023! Next up the House has to pass it, then the President signs it and we can all stop suffering ...

At least that is my so humble opinion.

I didn't see this thread when I started another thread this morning about this same subject in the "NON Villages" discussion forum.

Sorry.

coffeebean 03-16-2022 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2073032)
Yes, but back when you were a child, most likely you could hear the horses coming. ;-)

The obsession with turning the clock one hour twice a year makes it appear we’ve turned into a land of cupcakes, melting if the time is adjusted. Be sure you never leave your time zone, don’t travel overseas for business or pleasure. Don’t you wonder how the seasonal residents from different time zones survive the madness? It’s enough to cause the vapors…

Agree very strongly with this. My husband traveled for a living and he always said there is a way to "beat" the jet lag and he dealt with time zone changes globally all the time. I just read in an article that the body will NEVER catch up even with a permanent time change. Personally, I think that is pure hogwash.

coffeebean 03-16-2022 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2073051)
Silly this is what Congress spends their time on.
:ohdear:

Why not? This time change business effects each and every one of us plus a whole lot more "stuff" that I don't even think about let alone know about.

coffeebean 03-16-2022 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Annie66 (Post 2073057)
So, let's pretend for a moment ....... if we go on DST, will we permanently be in the EST or EDT time zone?

That is a very valid concern. In an article I read this morning, there has been talk that states want to change their time zone too if and when a permanent time change is put into law for our country. This is more complicated than I ever knew was possible.

coffeebean 03-16-2022 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlesNT (Post 2073063)
Good to know this is the most important thing Congress has to work on!

Stay on standard time, I’m not happy waking up in the dark!

People like us retired folks just may sleep later if it remains darker later in the morning. DST will do that for us. It just may keep the roosters asleep longer too so they won't be crowing so early.

coffeebean 03-16-2022 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Guitarman1951 (Post 2073105)
In1973, the nation went to full time DST. After one year, that was changed back. The reason was that so many children were killed walking to bus stops or school in the dark, people demanded that it be changed back. Evidently, we haven't learned from history.

Every child should be given a reflective vest.....no ifs ands or buts about it. They should be supplied by the school and the child must wear it when going to school in the morning. Do you think that may help?

Hape2Bhr 03-16-2022 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2072934)
Like to go walking after dinner so prefer daylight savings

I overheard environmentalists hoping it would pass so their solar panels get an extra hour of sunlight.

:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

JP 03-16-2022 02:00 PM

I'll betcha it won't pass the house for a bunch of silly reasons. How about just leave us(and time) alone and pass this bill.

coffeebean 03-16-2022 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hape2Bhr (Post 2073337)
I overheard environmentalists hoping it would pass so their solar panels get an extra hour of sunlight.

:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

Do these "fools" honestly think there is one more hour of sunlight? Seriously? Oh dear is right!

Topspinmo 03-16-2022 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 2072960)
This is a step in the right direction, but let’s move the clocks back in November and just leave them there. Everything will be great with “year round dst” until a couple of kids are killed at the bus stops in January.

Agree, kids going to school in dark dangerous. Maybe on move 1/2 hour instead to fUll hour? Course then got people that live on the time zone line. West side of line good but east side of line suffers.

Topspinmo 03-16-2022 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2073333)
Every child should be given a reflective vest.....no ifs ands or buts about it. They should be supplied by the school and the child must wear it when going to school in the morning. Do you think that may help?


No, the parents should be required to buy reflective vest for their children, after all they made choice and it their responsibility.

Two Bills 03-16-2022 02:15 PM

Still 24 hours in a day!:icon_wink:

MartinSE 03-16-2022 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2073340)
Do these "fools" honestly think there is one more hour of sunlight? Seriously? Oh dear is right!

Amazing how someone can make an insulting comment and someone else comes along and thinks it is real.

Just amazing.

MartinSE 03-16-2022 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2073344)
No, the parents should be required to buy reflective vest for their children, after all they made choice and it their responsibility.

Here's a solution, quit forcing kids to get up at 4am and carry 100lbs of books back and forth to school. Start school at a reasonable hour. Then they don't have to walk anywhere in the dark.

Topspinmo 03-16-2022 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2073329)
That is a very valid concern. In an article I read this morning, there has been talk that states want to change their time zone too if and when a permanent time change is put into law for our country. This is more complicated than I ever knew was possible.

Not that complicated.

DLST only save hour of sun light in evening (course you loose that hour in morning) has no effect on the standard time zones cause then sun don’t come up all at once across country.:) why we have 4 time zones. What makes it complicated when you live right on the time zone line. Those are the people that usually hate DLST.

Topspinmo 03-16-2022 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2073349)
Here's a solution, quit forcing kids to get up at 4am and carry 100lbs of books back and forth to school. Start school at a reasonable hour. Then they don't have to walk anywhere in the dark.

Majority of kid don’t get up at 4am nor do the carry 100 pounds or books. Now if live out in sticks and have to ride bus for hour then maybe(even then, I doubt they get up before 6 when majority of schools Start at 8:15AM. They still don’t carry 100 pounds of books, free government laptop maybe?

JMintzer 03-16-2022 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2073333)
Every child should be given a reflective vest.....no ifs ands or buts about it. They should be supplied by the school and the child must wear it when going to school in the morning. Do you think that may help?

I agree they should have reflective vests (or backpacks, or sneakers), but I don't agree that the schools should supply them...

JMintzer 03-16-2022 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2073345)
Still 24 hours in a day!:icon_wink:

But there are 8 Days a Week...


-Paul McCartney's chauffer...

Aces4 03-16-2022 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by meme5x (Post 2073286)
Am so excited.. so depressing turning clocks back in the fall!


I was going to mention earlier how much I look forward to the time changes. Spring time change signifies the greening of the countyside, golf courses reopening, the abundant lakes warming for the summer activities, birds chattering and singing and the sun setting over newly planted fields, for example. Fall time change marks a time of rustling leaves, harvesting vegetable garden’s last crops , an abundance of apples and a slower pace of life with rusty reds, golden browns and burnished yellows against the light of shortening days.

Daylight savings time is an excellent marker of time, to remind us it waits for no one.

jarodrig 03-16-2022 04:21 PM

There’s a better chance of a Costco building in The Villages than what is being “proposed”……. LOL !

MartinSE 03-16-2022 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2073352)
Majority of kid don’t get up at 4am nor do the carry 100 pounds or books. Now if live out in sticks and have to ride bus for hour then maybe(even then, I doubt they get up before 6 when majority of schools Start at 8:15AM. They still don’t carry 100 pounds of books, free government laptop maybe?

I was exaggerating to make the point, that it seems to me that rather than need protective clothing, it would be easier to just make school start a little later. The main reason I have seen given for starting school so early, is so the parents can get to work on time. Basically, our school system provides day care for the parents. The schools closing over the past couple years have led to a lot of parents having to quit their jobs.

As to the free last top, maybe, It could be less expensive than the rip-off extortionist prices of the school books most schools pay. When he was alive Richard Feynman was asked to evaluate some physics books before the school board purchased them. They were not happy with his evaluation of those school books.

drcar 03-16-2022 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hape2Bhr (Post 2073337)
I overheard environmentalists hoping it would pass so their solar panels get an extra hour of sunlight.

:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

This is so far off base, the amount of sunlight will not change for the day. Same amount of sun, just a different setting on the clock!

CFrance 03-16-2022 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2073399)
I was going to mention earlier how much I look forward to the time changes. Spring time change signifies the greening of the countyside, golf courses reopening, the abundant lakes warming for the summer activities, birds chattering and singing and the sun setting over newly planted fields, for example. Fall time change marks a time of rustling leaves, harvesting vegetable garden’s last crops , an abundance of apples and a slower pace of life with rusty reds, golden browns and burnished yellows against the light of shortening days.

Daylight savings time is an excellent marker of time, to remind us it waits for no one.

I love your description of the change of seasons.

CFrance 03-16-2022 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2073351)
Not that complicated.

DLST only save hour of sun light in evening (course you loose that hour in morning) has no effect on the standard time zones cause then sun don’t come up all at once across country.:) why we have 4 time zones. What makes it complicated when you live right on the time zone line. Those are the people that usually hate DLST.

We lived on the edge of the Eastern time zone in West Michigan. It was fabulous, especially during DST in the summer when the sun was still up at 10 pm. We loved it.

CFrance 03-16-2022 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2073331)
People like us retired folks just may sleep later if it remains darker later in the morning. DST will do that for us. It just may keep the roosters asleep longer too so they won't be crowing so early.

Our dog didn't care if it was 6:30 Daylight Savings Time or 6:30 Standard Time. Breakfast was at 6:30, and I got "snouted" awake. The fact that I'm retired never mattered.

On the plus side, we may see fewer dog poop threads, as it will be hard to see out the window during morning walkies time.

Aces4 03-16-2022 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 2073460)
We lived on the edge of the Eastern time zone in West Michigan. It was fabulous, especially during DST in the summer when the sun was still up at 10 pm. We loved it.

West Michigan, a beautiful area and next to a beautiful pond… Lake Michigan, lucky you!

coffeebean 03-16-2022 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2073344)
No, the parents should be required to buy reflective vest for their children, after all they made choice and it their responsibility.

We agree on the reflective vests. I really don't care who purchases the vests, just that the kids must wear them.

coffeebean 03-16-2022 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2073348)
Amazing how someone can make an insulting comment and someone else comes along and thinks it is real.

Just amazing.

Whew.....my bad. Just glad to know people really don't think there is actually one more hour of daylight. Thanks for setting me straight.

coffeebean 03-16-2022 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2073349)
Here's a solution, quit forcing kids to get up at 4am and carry 100lbs of books back and forth to school. Start school at a reasonable hour. Then they don't have to walk anywhere in the dark.

That makes just too much sense! Why hasn't that idea been mulled over by the school boards and whoever else makes those decisions?

coffeebean 03-16-2022 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by drcar (Post 2073439)
This is so far off base, the amount of sunlight will not change for the day. Same amount of sun, just a different setting on the clock!

I got snookered into thinking that was true. I was set straight about it and glad to hear it was not true.

coffeebean 03-16-2022 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 2073456)
I love your description of the change of seasons.

His/her writing style is beautiful and very wistful. Loved reading it.

midiwiz 03-16-2022 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2072920)
Well, for me at least there is GOOD news!

The Senate has passed legislation making DST permanent in 2023! Next up the House has to pass it, then the President signs it and we can all stop suffering ...

At least that is my so humble opinion.

and finally Rubio does something .......

NoMo50 03-17-2022 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by drcar (Post 2073290)
According to the logic you are using, it would seem that we would hear about a lot of children getting killed in Arizona since they have been on DST for years. Also back in 1973 we did not have the high quality head lights. Accidents will still happen, but not just because of the change in time.

Almost correct. Arizona does not participate in DST. They stay on Mountain Standard Time year round, with the exception of the Navajo Nation, which does do DST.


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