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stanley 03-30-2021 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1923402)
Link to that please !

Thanks

Lawyer: Officer'''s knee to neck killed man during 2018 arrest - ABC News

Family: 30-year-old Angelo Quinto died after Northern California police placed knee on his neck - ABC11 Raleigh-Durham

'''You'''re gonna kill me!''': Dallas police body cam footage reveals the final minutes of Tony Timpa'''s life

These are just a couple that made some national news but went nowhere because it didn't fit the racial narrative that the MSM likes to spew.

Road-Runner 03-30-2021 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tmarkwald (Post 1922780)
Notice how nobody burned the Cities when OJ was found not guilty? Nobody loots and burns - unless they know they can get away with it because the police are scared to do their jobs.

Chauvin was doing his job. Ask the women who this thug raped what they would do.

Actually I was working in downtown Atlanta at the time, there were riots and violence celebrating their 'win'. There's usually burning by some whatever the verdict.

Bucco 03-30-2021 02:58 PM

Thanks.

I apologize for doubting, but so much is made up on here, but thanks for the links.

Used to be I came on this forum for this kind of thing. To become more informed.

blueash 03-30-2021 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherry8bal (Post 1923272)
You are correct. If he actually "couldn't breathe", he would have not been able to say that so many times. He would have been gagging and gasping for air. Of course, the black population will use this as another excuse to go "shopping" all across the country for free stuff.

I don't know why they don't seem to rely on the facts. The guy was a criminal - past and present, was high on drugs and alcohol according to the facts and had a very bad heart. He was a ticking time bomb.

So you think that this is all so black people can buy stuff? What a racist comment.

Of course Mr Floyd should have been more articulate in his symptom description to fit your requirement. Perhaps "Officer Sir, I am experiencing dyspnea which is being exacerbated by your femur compressing my trachea." Would that work for you? I'll go with the short hand of "I can't breathe" as fully informative.

It does not matter if Mr Floyd was a past or present criminal. Cops are not authorized to kill people because of their history past or present. It does not matter if he had a bad heart. Only one question needs to answered by the jury. Did Chauvin's action shorten Floyd's life. If he died one second earlier than he would have without Chauvin's knee on his neck, that fits the definition of the criminal statute as murder or manslaughter. Why is that so hard to understand by people like you?

If I have terminal pancreatic cancer, that doesn't mean you can kill me. The law here even prohibits mercy killing where I am near death and you help me. See, the law is consistent. You cannot speed someone's death by your actions. Even if they are a criminal, even if they might have passed a counterfeit bill, even if they have drugs in their system.

Unless you actually are so warped by your political viewpoint that you believe Mr Floyd would have died at that exact moment no matter whether he was sitting on a park bench, or having his airway obstructed and blood flow to his brain obstructed, you need to understand that the law says Chauvin is responsible for his earlier than otherwise may have happened death. We will see how the charge of the judge presents the law. Pay great attention to how the judge explains the law. It will be up to the jury to decide which crime if any fits his actions.

ChrissyI1 03-30-2021 03:20 PM

George Floyd absolutely died from aphixiation caused by the police officer’s knee. He literally killed this unarmed, handcuffed black man for no reason whatsoever! How many police officers do you need to handle a handcuffed man? Cut me a break - the videos don’t lie! I hope Chauvin gets the death penalty - even that is too good for this murderer.

talleyjm 03-30-2021 03:23 PM

[QUOTE=retiredguy123;1922765]Police training videos show that putting a knee on a person's neck is an acceptable restraining procedure. This was not the cause of death. George Floyd was 6 foot 3 and weighed 225 pounds. Chauvin was 5 foot 9 and weighed 145 pounds. Floyd was resisting arrest and was high on drugs. Put yourself in Chauvin's position. I hope he is found not guilty. My 2 cents.

Kudos for sticking to facts and not trying to promote the left’s agenda. :bigbow:

talleyjm 03-30-2021 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1922767)
Floyd was a known violent thug who ODed and died from that.

Yup. :clap2:

Jacob85 03-30-2021 03:47 PM

There are techniques for this type of restraint but The cop did not follow the correct procedures and most police departments do not use this type of restraint. .they have to receive special training.

I was trained by the police departments trainer several years in a row and we were told never to leave a person on their stomach as you are restricting their ability to breath. If they are cuffed in this position you get them on their side as soon as possible and have them sit up. It is dangerous to have a person in that position for any length of time.

Stu from NYC 03-30-2021 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1923474)
So you think that this is all so black people can buy stuff? What a racist comment.

Do all black people loot? Of course not but quite a few actually do use it as an excuse to get stuff for nothing because they know they will get away with it.

DeanFL 03-30-2021 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1923498)
Do all black people loot? Of course not but quite a few actually do use it as an excuse to get stuff for nothing because they know they will get away with it.

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OK now. I'm taking bets in how much longer this Thread will last.

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Larchap49 03-30-2021 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FG111 (Post 1922910)
I say, sacrifice the cop and find him guilty of all charges, regardless of the facts of the case. This way, many of our cities will not burn and many lives will be saved.
There is not one person living in this country with a bit of common sense that honestly believes that if the cop is found innocent by a jury of his peer's and released, that the community will accept the verdict and do nothing. You know that if this cop walks, cities all across the US will burn and many will be injured and killed. So, sacrifice the cop and save our cities.

Isn't that both the saddest and yet the truest of statements depicting the state of this once proud and now deteriorating nation. I am saddened watching the downfall of the greatest civilization ever. I didn't think I would live to see it but apparently I will. Very sorry for our youth but they are doing nothing to prevent it. The saying you made your bed now you have to sleep in it comes to mind.

Bucco 03-30-2021 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1923498)
Do all black people loot? Of course not but quite a few actually do use it as an excuse to get stuff for nothing because they know they will get away with it.

We are nearing the very bottom.

PNaughton 03-30-2021 04:29 PM

I'll raise that two cents and just agree.

Larchap49 03-30-2021 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottGo (Post 1922938)
Can my wife put her knee on your neck for 9 minutes and see if you'll live? I'm 5'11 235 so I'm to big for your weight/height ratio.

Except the knee had little to nothing to do with his death. He was gasping for air and saying he couldn't breath while still in the police car. Cause of death enlarged heart from overdose and drug use. Over zealous use of force? maybe, murder? No he was already dying. But as previous poster stated a not guilty verdict will result in burning cities instigated by imported thugs who don't have to live there afterward. Very very sad

Swoop 03-30-2021 05:25 PM

George Floyd tested positive for the Coronavirus at the time of his death. Was he coded as another Covid death?...


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