Originally Posted by DaleDivine (Post 1923380)

Soooo, Defund the cops. Who would you call if you had an intruder that was going to harm you or possibly rape your wife or daughter. You would probably tell them that's not nice.
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1922765)

Police training videos show that putting a knee on a person's neck is an acceptable restraining procedure. This was not the cause of death. George Floyd was 6 foot 3 and weighed 225 pounds. Chauvin was 5 foot 9 and weighed 145 pounds. Floyd was resisting arrest and was high on drugs. Put yourself in Chauvin's position. I hope he is found not guilty. My 2 cents.

Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1922767)

Floyd was a known violent thug who ODed and died from that.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1923251)

If he "couldn't breathe", then he couldn't say it 28 times, or even once for that matter

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1923525)

I looked at all three of your links.
The first is of a white man with significant mental health issues who was completely out of control and died 4 days after his police encounter where he became unconscious


The second is a Filipino with mental health issues who died three days after his police encounter in his own home where a decision on charging the officer may be pending


The third is a white male with schizophrenia who died at the scene 5 years ago in Dallas Texas after being restrained. The cops stood around his unconscious body and mocked him This case is the most similar to Mr Floyd but occurred well before the increased awareness of police actions killing civilians. His case resulted in the cops being indicted by a grand jury after the coroner found "cause of death was a homicide, sudden cardiac death due to "the toxic effects of cocaine and the stress associated with physical restraint." but the coroner refused to testify in court that the cause of death was the cop and the case was dropped. I wonder what pressure was applied to get the coroner to refuse to testify. I don't think the result would be the same in 2021, hopefully

The common thread in these three cases is severe mental health issues and that cops really don't have the skills to deal with those problems. That is exactly why there is now a movement to have mental health professionals much more involved in such situations.

The MSM does report these cases, as evidenced by your finding all the reports. Those organizations which represent the interest of those with mental illness have been very clear in decrying the brutality in which those with mental illnesses are treated by police. Those organizations which represent the interest of Black Americans have been very loud in decrying the brutality in which POC are treated by police. Nobody is spewing anything other than your spewing of an implication that only the murder of Blacks is reported because of a media agenda. Many more Blacks have died at the hands of police than those cases that get more attention, and those are only some of the cases where a colorblind observer can tell that the cops got it wrong.

In 2019 did you hear about "28-year-old Michael Dean, who police killed in Texas on Dec. 2; 31-year-old Christopher Whitfield, who police killed in Louisiana on Oct. 14; 54-year-old Melvin Watkins, who police killed in Louisiana on Sept. 14; and 33-year-old Channara Tom Pheap, who police killed on Aug. 26 in Tennessee." Hardly a blip on the news about those cases, but look them up if you'd like. And there are more.

Originally Posted by Bsturner (Post 1923530)

I don’t know who needs to hear this but police aren’t suppose to kill guilty people either.

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1923525)

I looked at all three of your links.
The first is of a white man with significant mental health issues who was completely out of control and died 4 days after his police encounter where he became unconscious


The second is a Filipino with mental health issues who died three days after his police encounter in his own home where a decision on charging the officer may be pending


The third is a white male with schizophrenia who died at the scene 5 years ago in Dallas Texas after being restrained. The cops stood around his unconscious body and mocked him This case is the most similar to Mr Floyd but occurred well before the increased awareness of police actions killing civilians. His case resulted in the cops being indicted by a grand jury after the coroner found "cause of death was a homicide, sudden cardiac death due to "the toxic effects of cocaine and the stress associated with physical restraint." but the coroner refused to testify in court that the cause of death was the cop and the case was dropped. I wonder what pressure was applied to get the coroner to refuse to testify. I don't think the result would be the same in 2021, hopefully

The common thread in these three cases is severe mental health issues and that cops really don't have the skills to deal with those problems. That is exactly why there is now a movement to have mental health professionals much more involved in such situations.

The MSM does report these cases, as evidenced by your finding all the reports. Those organizations which represent the interest of those with mental illness have been very clear in decrying the brutality in which those with mental illnesses are treated by police. Those organizations which represent the interest of Black Americans have been very loud in decrying the brutality in which POC are treated by police. Nobody is spewing anything other than your spewing of an implication that only the murder of Blacks is reported because of a media agenda. Many more Blacks have died at the hands of police than those cases that get more attention, and those are only some of the cases where a colorblind observer can tell that the cops got it wrong.

In 2019 did you hear about "28-year-old Michael Dean, who police killed in Texas on Dec. 2; 31-year-old Christopher Whitfield, who police killed in Louisiana on Oct. 14; 54-year-old Melvin Watkins, who police killed in Louisiana on Sept. 14; and 33-year-old Channara Tom Pheap, who police killed on Aug. 26 in Tennessee." Hardly a blip on the news about those cases, but look them up if you'd like. And there are more.

Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1923539)

If you do the research and look at the makeup of those who commit violent crimes, you will see that whites are killed at a higher percentage than blacks by police.
Tony Timpa’s case was almost identical to Floyd’s, yet it only received local media coverage. You never even heard of Tony Timpa before today. If George Floyd was white, you would never have heard of him either...

Originally Posted by Bsturner (Post 1923535)

Sometimes racism looks like a white person trying to justify why it’s okay to kill a black person.

QUOTE=retiredguy123;1922765]Police training videos show that putting a knee on a person's neck is an acceptable restraining procedure. This was not the cause of death. George Floyd was 6 foot 3 and weighed 225 pounds. Chauvin was 5 foot 9 and weighed 145 pounds. Floyd was resisting arrest and was high on drugs. Put yourself in Chauvin's position. I hope he is found not guilty. My 2 cents.

Originally Posted by Swoop (Post 1923539)

If you do the research and look at the makeup of those who commit violent crimes, you will see that whites are killed at a higher percentage than blacks by police.
Tony Timpa’s case was almost identical to Floyd’s, yet it only received local media coverage. You never even heard of Tony Timpa before today. If George Floyd was white, you would never have heard of him either...

Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1923541)

Lots of similarities. I hope the law wins in this case, and people just put their hate away, learn and grow

Originally Posted by Bsturner (Post 1923535)

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1923532)

You never had a patient come in and say "I can't breathe"? I'm sure you did and you didn't berate them or explain that if they really couldn't breathe they would be blue and unable to talk. We all understand that what Floyd meant was I can't breathe normally. I think he was telling the truth and you're obfuscating to minimize his accurate and dying complaint.