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Stu from NYC 08-29-2020 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GoPacers (Post 1824525)
Pro sports are not "dead" and won't ever be "dead." Every day we get reminded that we're getting older in many ways. In this case, we (old white people) are not the demographic that pro sports target so while we may think our opinions matter - they don't and making stupid racist comments to denigrate the athletes in those sports only shows one's own ignorance and immaturity - and possibly another sign of aging as our frontal lobe "filter" continues to fail us.

So in your opinion if we make comments criticizing pro athletes for their actions we are racist? Any chance we are entitled to our opinions without the name calling?

davem4616 08-29-2020 08:24 AM

"he's not all dead, he's just mostly dead"
Miracle Max, The Princess Bride


it will survive, but it will never have the same following that it once had

skip0358 08-29-2020 08:26 AM

Stopped watching some time ago. Now with all this BS I could care less. They're a Ball player period your not God almighty! JMO

Taltarzac725 08-29-2020 08:28 AM

Very alive and relevant. They will have to keep adjusting to the Corona Virus and whatever else Fate throws at them.

OhioBuckeye 08-29-2020 09:33 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1823399)
Pro basketball teams refuse to play in protest of a racial event. Right now, it's both basketball and baseball. Not sure what will happen when football season starts.

So, are you tired of the activism in pro sports? Have you stopped watching?

You have to admit... golf continues to "fly underneath the radar." I haven't seen anyone on the pro circuit wear a "BLM" shirt. In fact, none of the pro golf players are jumping into this controversy.

I love this. They are just playing the sport they love and we just get to watch it. Sigh...

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Personally I don’t care if pro basketball, baseball or football ever gets an audience or anybody buys a ticket. They think their demands will get what they want. Duh, the majority of all 3 of these sports are black. All we have to do is let these big dumb so called pro’s make demands, it’s their livelihood & money they’re losing. So if we want to let this backfire on them, stand up for 2 mins. Instead of taking a knee. Geez, these pro players had ought look around & think who are we really hurting. Pro Tennis & Golf aren’t having any problems, is it because they are just a tad smarter in their thinking. This is just my opinion & nobody has to agree. But I hope we don’t break down & give them what they want because this BLM thing will never end.

Number 10 GI 08-29-2020 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by camaguey48 (Post 1824324)
Get the story straight. He made sudden aggressive moves when he should have shut up and obeyed the officers. How hard is that to comprehend?

Apparently it is extremely difficult for some to understand. For their own safety they should try real hard to comprehend as it might save them from getting shot one day.

sunny56 08-29-2020 10:04 AM

What bothers me about this whole boycotting thing is that they are boycotting for convicted criminals and suspected criminals. No mention of innocent people being murdered with all these "peaceful protests". I am blaming the main stream media for a lot of this BS. Hopefully people will finally discover the truth about a lot of this and it can get resolved. I am just stunned by their support of these particular "victims".

Number 10 GI 08-29-2020 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1824649)
So in your opinion if we make comments criticizing pro athletes for their actions we are racist? Any chance we are entitled to our opinions without the name calling?

When you don't have a logical counter argument, call people names.

davem4616 08-29-2020 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1824765)
Apparently it is extremely difficult for some to understand. For their own safety they should try real hard to comprehend as it might save them from getting shot one day.


difficult to understand why this simple message isn't getting across

Stu from NYC 08-29-2020 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sunny56 (Post 1824768)
What bothers me about this whole boycotting thing is that they are boycotting for convicted criminals and suspected criminals. No mention of innocent people being murdered with all these "peaceful protests". I am blaming the main stream media for a lot of this BS. Hopefully people will finally discover the truth about a lot of this and it can get resolved. I am just stunned by their support of these particular "victims".

And they do not even wait for the facts to come out before thinking we will be horrified by their boycotting their games. Every one of these police actions is on someone who has just committed a crime or threatened the officers in some way.

And none of these athletes ever says do not resist or threaten the officer.

JGVillages 08-29-2020 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1824317)
I never had to stand for The National Anthem as a condo on of employment at work EVER!
And why don’t they play the National Anthem for Professional golf tournaments!

No one is ever required to stand, it’s just what proud American’s do. Golf starts usually over a 4 hour time span and is spread out over acres. Possibly could do it with a shotgun start but the people on the far side of the course could not hear it. Not practical but if implemented I’d STAND.

bobnyce 08-29-2020 02:52 PM

I have no use for pampered fools who never served their country! Being tall and athletic is a gift from God! I don’t give one iota about their politics - I refuse to watch or support them especially considering the number of flag draped coffins I saw while serving at Arlington in “The Old Guard” in 1967 to 1969!

Mendy 08-29-2020 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1824907)
And they do not even wait for the facts to come out before thinking we will be horrified by their boycotting their games. Every one of these police actions is on someone who has just committed a crime or threatened the officers in some way.

And none of these athletes ever says do not resist or threaten the officer.

Really??? Absolutely not true. 'Every one of these police actions is on someone who has just committed a crime or threatened the officers in some way" is far from the truth. Breanna Taylor, Tony Timpa, Sterling Brown, etc, etc..........did they threaten a cop or just commit a crime? I think not.

CanTho 08-29-2020 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1823399)
Pro basketball teams refuse to play in protest of a racial event. Right now, it's both basketball and baseball. Not sure what will happen when football season starts.

So, are you tired of the activism in pro sports? Have you stopped watching?

You have to admit... golf continues to "fly underneath the radar." I haven't seen anyone on the pro circuit wear a "BLM" shirt. In fact, none of the pro golf players are jumping into this controversy.

I love this. They are just playing the sport they love and we just get to watch it. Sigh...

They the players have absolutely no idea that the " BLM " very well organized Marxist arm of the organization is taking advantage of the well intentioned aim of BLM group.

So be it ignorance is bliss as the saying goes.

Jima64 08-30-2020 10:01 AM

gave up on most sports about 20 years ago when players started taking over the direction of sports. check sports pages daily only to see the outcome of some things still meaningful to me but usually just to see which quality sports hero has been arrested for doing something stupid,, illegal or both.

arickis 09-03-2020 09:31 AM

I stopped watching the NFL when Colin first kneeled and the NFL did nothing. That was enough dissrespect of our country for me. Many other said they did the same, but then went to super bowl parties??

charlieo1126@gmail.com 09-04-2020 08:49 AM

The anger at Colin taking a knee , which caused all the village patriots to boycott Papa Johns and causing young kids to lose jobs , seemed to not bother the Armed forced who continued to advertise at games and soldiers attending in uniform were given free tickets as they are every year and many being honored on the field , because they know just like this combat vet paratrooper, that we are fighting for the rights of freedom of speech

Stu from NYC 09-04-2020 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1828036)
The anger at Colin taking a knee , which caused all the village patriots to boycott Papa Johns and causing young kids to lose jobs , seemed to not bother the Armed forced who continued to advertise at games and soldiers attending in uniform were given free tickets as they are every year and many being honored on the field , because they know just like this combat vet paratrooper, that we are fighting for the rights of freedom of speech

I still find it disrespectful to our flag and those who fought under it including my dad and father in law who served in WWII.

Lots of ways to protest wish they would find another way to do it.

thomp679 09-04-2020 11:22 AM

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Dana1963 09-05-2020 06:22 AM

I agree getting paid millions to win a golf tournament is ridiculous.

stadry 09-05-2020 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by quietpine (Post 1824132)
If you “turn off” sports to protest the protestors you are exercising your first amendment right just like the players and other protestors.

the 1st amendment has zip to do with tv or pro sports OR your refusal to watch,,, it limits govt's ability, never yours/ours

CanTho 09-05-2020 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1823399)
Pro basketball teams refuse to play in protest of a racial event. Right now, it's both basketball and baseball. Not sure what will happen when football season starts.

So, are you tired of the activism in pro sports? Have you stopped watching?

You have to admit... golf continues to "fly underneath the radar." I haven't seen anyone on the pro circuit wear a "BLM" shirt. In fact, none of the pro golf players are jumping into this controversy.

I love this. They are just playing the sport they love and we just get to watch it. Sigh...

Basketball in particular is on a decline simply because of the players themselves. Most are ignorant and are clueless on what they are complaining about.

As for football not that far behind, most followers are fed up with this kneeling business, and again ignorance.

They are being paid huge amounts of money and are clueless just following the pack.

The money comes from sponsors...based on the participation from fans. Without the latter bye bye players.

Kneel, Protest, Sit Out, go ahead ..... See how long it will be before you get your walking papers.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 09-07-2020 11:20 AM

Thankyou for service but those coffins
 
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Originally Posted by bobnyce (Post 1824966)
I have no use for pampered fools who never served their country! Being tall and athletic is a gift from God! I don’t give one iota about their politics - I refuse to watch or support them especially considering the number of flag draped coffins I saw while serving at Arlington in “The Old Guard” in 1967 to 1969!

were there because people fought for the rights for free speech for Allen’s the right to peacefully protest , many people are tall and athletic just like many are born smart but it’s the ones who work hard to use those abilities to overachieve , it’s not a gift from God

tvbound 09-11-2020 10:36 PM

J.J. Watt questions boos during Texans-Chiefs' show of unity: 'I don't fully understand that'

“The moment of unity I personally thought was good,” Watt told reporters. “The booing was unfortunate during that moment — I don’t fully understand that, there was no flag in that, there was nothing involved in that other than two teams coming together to show unity.”


The fact that everyone stood, but had their arms interlocked, perfectly demonstrates to me that the supposed outrage of kneeling during the anthem was never really the issue. It was just a bandwagon that white people who refuse to acknowledge white privilege, or don't want to give it up, used to pretend it was something else besides equal justice for blacks. And lots of comments, in many threads just here, hammers that truth home.

canyonblue 09-12-2020 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1831708)
It was just a bandwagon that white people who refuse to acknowledge white privilege..

That is a VERY RACIST remark. You are stating a belief that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. In your case you're saying that ALL white people have privilege. The most successful group in the US by race are Asians in almost every category from average household pretax income to Educational attainment. Would you dare to suggest Asian privilege?

chet2020 09-12-2020 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by canyonblue (Post 1831718)
That is a VERY RACIST remark. You are stating a belief that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. In your case you're saying that ALL white people have privilege. The most successful group in the US by race are Asians in almost every category from average household pretax income to Educational attainment. Would you dare to suggest Asian privilege?

What I find a lot more offensive than an athlete kneeling for the national anthem is some guy in Washington DC who's never served calling veterans lo***s and su***rs. It's so vile I cannot even write the words even though they are not profane outside of this context.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 09-12-2020 09:37 AM

You don’t want to watch sports don’t , you want to watch sports do, you don’t want to wear mask don’t you want to wear mask do , but please just stop talking about it. Im all done from now on even mentioning it to people I know

PugMom 09-12-2020 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1823673)
I thought the same thing until I went to the final day of the 1999 Ryder Cup at The Country Club in Brookline and watched first hand the greatest final day comeback in history. It was the most electrifying sporting event I ever had the pleasure of witnessing and would not have been the same watching it on TV.

same if you've ever seen them play the TPC up in Cromwell, Ct :coolsmiley:

PugMom 09-12-2020 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BS Beef (Post 1824221)
Agreed and this is why you won't see wide spread "protesting" on the PGA. It would be the same in the other leagues if their salary relied on their play.

As to the original question. I don't think the NBA will hurt much at all. We're not exactly in their target market. The NFL has proven it has too much of a pull for enough people to turn their TV sets off. I think MLB and the NHL are taking huge risks and I'd be very surprised if this doesn't hit them deeply in the pocket book.

I'm just surprised they are willing to hitch their wagon to Jacob Blake. I don't understand how you can look at the facts of that and see that this was somehow racially motivated and that in any way he was not the person 100% in the wrong.

Bless You! blake was a bad man, --look @ WHY victim's family members called the police out. someone in the home knew blake well enough to inform police of concealed weapons on him. it's factors like these that take away from outrage over George Floyd's handling

Dana1963 09-12-2020 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by arickis (Post 1827655)
I stopped watching the NFL when Colin first kneeled and the NFL did nothing. That was enough dissrespect of our country for me. Many other said they did the same, but then went to super bowl parties??

I’m glad they enjoyed themselves not bending to crowd mentality

Dgizzi 09-12-2020 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1823399)
Pro basketball teams refuse to play in protest of a racial event. Right now, it's both basketball and baseball. Not sure what will happen when football season starts.

So, are you tired of the activism in pro sports? Have you stopped watching?

You have to admit... golf continues to "fly underneath the radar." I haven't seen anyone on the pro circuit wear a "BLM" shirt. In fact, none of the pro golf players are jumping into this controversy.

I love this. They are just playing the sport they love and we just get to watch it. Sigh...

Pro sports have been dead to me for years...they are overpaid kids and have no respect for anybody. The stupid fans who support them now are idoits. These athletes who get paid millions to “play” are laughing at us. They are NOT HEROES OR ROLE MODELS. They take their money to the bank and laughing at the stupid people in the stands. With COVID happening, people should realize that doctors, nurses, police, all of them deserve to get paid millions, not these sorry excuse for men who get paid millions and still cry that they don’t get paid enough. If everyone would stop supporting them or going to games, they will learn when they start losing money. Smarten up people, ignore pro sports.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 09-12-2020 11:30 AM

OP mentioned we are not in NBA target market , please explain

Stu from NYC 09-12-2020 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 1831918)
Bless You! blake was a bad man, --look @ WHY victim's family members called the police out. someone in the home knew blake well enough to inform police of concealed weapons on him. it's factors like these that take away from outrage over George Floyd's handling

They do not have an upstanding citizen to attach themselves to and they pick the next best thing a creepy lowlife.

Stu from NYC 09-12-2020 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chet2020 (Post 1831719)
What I find a lot more offensive than an athlete kneeling for the national anthem is some guy in Washington DC who's never served calling veterans lo***s and su***rs. It's so vile I cannot even write the words even though they are not profane outside of this context.

I do not believe he said that but do you need to bring politics into this?

tophcfa 09-12-2020 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 1831912)
same if you've ever seen them play the TPC up in Cromwell, Ct :coolsmiley:


Worked the final 24 years of my career in Hartford and my Company sponsored a Corporate tent at the tournament and went every year. My favorite tournament because I played the course about 50 times and know every hole by heart. Very fun to watch the pros go way under par from the tips on a track I struggled with from the white T’s.

tophcfa 09-12-2020 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1831972)
OP mentioned we are not in NBA target market , please explain

Really, you need to ask that question? Watch a game and figure it out for yourself. News flash, Villagers are not a target market anywhere except the Villages. Outside of 55+ communities 25 - 45 year olds are the target market. You won’t find an add for hearing aids, walk in bath tubs, erectile dysfunction treatments, skin cancer treatments, etc.... during an NBA game.

chet2020 09-12-2020 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1832073)
I do not believe he said that but do you need to bring politics into this?

This entire thread is not overtly political, but is at least mildly political, no?

Four sources from The Atlantic reporter, and confirmed by FoxNews reporter Jennifer Griffin with two sources. The preponderance of evidence is he said it, but I'll concede he's not on tape. He is on tape calling the former senator from AZ a loser. I understand why you cannot allow yourself to believe it. I got disappointed by HRC.

Fox News reporter defends confirming Atlantic piece despite Trump backlash: 'I feel very confident' | TheHill

Bay Kid 09-13-2020 08:05 AM

I record everything! I can fast forward through the crap. You can watch a football game in less than an hour.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 09-13-2020 09:11 AM

No but I do see adds for beer, restaurants , travel
 
athltic
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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1832125)
Really, you need to ask that question? Watch a game and figure it out for yourself. News flash, Villagers are not a target market anywhere except the Villages. Outside of 55+ communities 25 - 45 year olds are the target market. You won’t find an add for hearing aids, walk in bath tubs, erectile dysfunction treatments, skin cancer treatments, etc.... during an NBA game.

athletic gear, pizza , cellphones , computers, automobiles and other local adds tucked in with the National ads. Maybe some people are so deep in the. bubble they feel if Walmart doesn’t have it , it’s not worth buying. I’m sorry to disappoint you but at 81 I’m still shopping for clothes mostly at Hugo Boss and Amani , using all Nike gear that’s up to date ,eating out most nights with my favorites beings chops, blue fin and bonefish and when the virus is over back to alternating winters between Miami Beach and Hawaii . I’ll still be watching all the pro sports and like my circle of friends still buying things that I see on basketball adds. There plenty of life left after 55 , my dad was going to Patriots game in his 90’s and at 98 drove himself to hospital ,when I met him in lobby he had on an Armani leather jacket and sweater and Italian short boots because even though he knew it was over that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t look good, live your life to the fullest , it’s the only one you’ll get

manaboutown 09-13-2020 09:29 AM

I find it ironic that many of the NFL players who of course have their names on their jerseys and are felons themselves are now wearing the names of other felons on their helmets. lol


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