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He chose to lie. He chose to go to trial. He was found guilty by a jury of his peers. I don't understand the complaint.

This conviction will hardly matter to the people who love and admire Oren Miller. There are many of these.

The complaint is that all sorts of high profile people have done so much more than he did and got away with it, while he is sitting in prison for who knows how long. The scales of justice are not evenly balanced.

Your absolutely correct, that totally stinks. Look no further than Brett Hage for an example.

There are so many examples in all political parties if you will be honest about it. Didn't you read my post that the only politician that you can trust is the one you have with a gun to his head? I distrust all politicians.

More population; more crime. True anywhere.

44Apple....it was in the paper with all the other election results

If an appeal is in the works, he definitely needs a new and better lawyer.

So glad see nothing political in these posts.

He committed felony perjury. Nothing to do about donuts.

Let him without sin throw....
 

Sounds like a senior citizen in over his head about both his job responsibilities and skills set he needed for them. How about a sincere mea culpa, and some forgiveness from us will catch a mansions ear in tallahassee.

The punishment hardly fit the crime.

If the sun had its way he would be public enemy number one.

In other words if the developer doesn't get his way one way he will get it another.

Remind me never to run for public office.

Wife beaters, drug dealers walking “our streets?” I’d like to see those stats. Agree about the DUIs and cart thieves, but even those are not rampant. Geez! 🤷🏻*♀️

Bottom line: Statistically, we live in one of the safest communities in the country. Crime rate is low, not zero. Violent crime is extremely low.

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He betrayed his oath, he betrayed those of us he was elected to serve, and he did this with full understanding that he was committing a crime -- and then he lied about it. Come on! I agree other criminals should receive the punishments they deserve, but don't belittle his crime saying he's "harmless" and that the crime is "trivial". No crime that blatantly disregards an oath to serve friends and neighbors is trivial and no criminal is harmless.

You missed it. Very small 2 or 3 sentence on page 4, 5, or 6
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It is my experience that when you get yourself in a hole, quit digging! That was the real crime here. I doubt he will receive any time. He has already been punished.

It was not this crime was difficult to solve. Step #1 in determining if there was collaboration was to pull the phone records. Using one of the 50 or so phone apps such as Telegram or Signal would have eliminated those records.

They either didn't think they were really breaking the law, didn't think it was that serious of a law, or thought they were above the law. According to the phone records, some calls were seconds....so could have been about donuts. Many other calls were 10 minutes. Both individuals were offered an immunity deal, and only one took it.

For proof & example, look at politics in Chicago, Detroit, etc.
Answer to original post….we are safer from corrupt politicians.

Go against the Developer and they will bury you. Few of us are any match for their power, money, and influence. We don't stand a chance.

We wholly agree and are outraged. Oren and Angie are great folks who only want to give back to the community. This is witch hunting in the first degree. His alleged partner in crime , however, got a slap on the wrist to testify against his "friend." The Daily Sun took great pleasure in their yellow journalistic approach to Oren's case. We think the Sun staff, and prosecutors in this should spend a week on the subways of New York or the streets of Chicago and see what real crime is.

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Well we don’t live in TV anymore but if we or anywhere else, I wouldn’t hang out with him or be his buddy. He the kind of person that I wouldn’t want him around us senior citizens. I don’t know could TV’s legally not allow him & his wife to live their as long as he did’t do anything wrong. We don’t know if any of the millions of illegals have a prison record!

Oren Miller secretly talking
 

Isn't talking secretly what politicians do? Isn't that also what people who influence politicians also do? Of course, oaths have no meaning if an oath to tell the truth can be ignored with impunity, but how can one prove that an alleged liar has not simply misremembered, a failure of many of us in The Villages?

Then there is the elephant in the room. Why is a commonplace secret political conversation of such importance that it deserves a court case? Who benefits? Is Justice truly being served?

well not when you look at the sex offenders site...... makes you go "hmmmmmm"

Agree.

All he had to do was say, “Yeah, we made some phone calls. Sorry. Won’t happen again.” He would have been fined a couple hundred $$ and probably still be a commissioner. That’s how it has worked for many who have “inadvertently” compromised the Sunshine Laws in Florida.

I think the message is crystal clear.

It had nothing to do with the animal shelter. It had to do with Oren trying to protect the citizens of Sumter County from the developer with his hand in their pockets. Oren beat the developer's lackey in an election, so he had to be punished.

The B.A.R. (british accredited registry)-who controls the judges and esq. They are loyal to the crown not we the people. Maritime law, common law. 2 constitutions, military law etc. It is all against us modern day slaves. SIR-slave I remain. Research research research.

What punishment? He hasn’t even been sentenced yet.

I agree, he should have admitted he was wrong and I’ve wouldn’t be in jail, and grandpas shouldn’t lie.

He should have had council when he was interviewed under oath. I am assuming he didn't because I find it hard to believe any competent council would have allowed him to answer a question if he had any doubts about whether it was true. Alternatively, he should have not answered any questions. Hindsight, as they say, is 20/20.

Well said! Ain't that the truth!

Or hunter B just to keep this politically neutral.

That would be one view---essentially, it's OK to commit a felony if it is for "the greater good"

The other view would be that a lifelong member of one party switched for the sole purpose of getting elected, and then pursued an anti-"company" agenda in a company town, violated the state Sunshine statutes, then committed perjury and worst of all got caught. Now people want to look the other way???? I thought we were a nation of laws.

He’s in jail for the (crimes) he committed. Hopefully he will learn from this and be a better person when he gets out.

You should look up facts before responding, but why if one thinks facts do not matter? He was taken into custody after the verdict on Friday and will not be sentenced for 3 weeks. Thus he is incarcerated now, awaiting his sentence! That is just ridiculous!

He is in jail pending sentencing which has been scheduled for 3 weeks. Get the facts!

The man knowingly broke the law, then lied about it. Laws are for all and are to be upheld. Surely some of these posters are not suggesting that because he's a nice guy he should be allowed to break the law. He knew what he was doing was illegal, he had been warned and continued breaking the law anyway. He was caught, he tried to lie his way out of it and then admitted it. He is a criminal, he was convicted by a jury. He broke the law and was caught. Yes, as some pointed out, many break the law, that is true, they are still criminals, they just haven't been caught yet.
He broke the law, he was caught breaking the law, he was convicted of breaking the law, that's how it works. Nice guy or not.

:1rotfl: Why don’t you get the facts. At least read the entire thread before making yourself look more stupid. I posted that I was surprised that they held him until sentencing. He’s a nonviolent offender. But being held over isn’t punishment. It might feel like it but it’s just part of the procedure. I feel he should have been released pending sentencing. But I’m not the judge. Maybe the judge is holding him so when he does sentence him he’ll just get time served.