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Number 10 GI 11-20-2022 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2159348)
Your absolutely correct, that totally stinks. Look no further than Brett Hage for an example.
There are so many examples in all political parties if you will be honest about it. Didn't you read my post that the only politician that you can trust is the one you have with a gun to his head? I distrust all politicians.

Debra Freeman 11-21-2022 04:54 AM
More population; more crime. True anywhere.

bowlingal 11-21-2022 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 44Apple (Post 2159183)
And, maybe I missed it, but I still haven't seen the Fire Dept results reported in that "paper". Wonder why??
44Apple....it was in the paper with all the other election results

bowlingal 11-21-2022 05:22 AM
If an appeal is in the works, he definitely needs a new and better lawyer.

banjobob 11-21-2022 05:37 AM
So glad see nothing political in these posts.

Rwirish 11-21-2022 06:04 AM
He committed felony perjury. Nothing to do about donuts.

Worldseries27 11-21-2022 06:05 AM
Let him without sin throw....
 
Sounds like a senior citizen in over his head about both his job responsibilities and skills set he needed for them. How about a sincere mea culpa, and some forgiveness from us will catch a mansions ear in tallahassee.

Stu from NYC 11-21-2022 06:14 AM
The punishment hardly fit the crime.

If the sun had its way he would be public enemy number one.

In other words if the developer doesn't get his way one way he will get it another.

Remind me never to run for public office.

G.R.I.T.S. 11-21-2022 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2159130)
Now that Oren Miller is a convicted felon and is off the streets of the Villages does anyone feel safer? Let’s see, a harmless senior citizen whose trivial crime was misremembering (that’s a Roger Clemens term) the details of some telephone conversations is now behind bars. Meanwhile, wife beaters, drug dealers, drunken drivers, golf cart thieves, and many other dangerous criminals we should all be afraid of are walking around freely on our streets.

Something is seriously wrong with this picture. The moral of the story is that it’s not the crime one commits, it’s the people in high places that one rubs the wrong way that really matters.
Wife beaters, drug dealers walking “our streets?” I’d like to see those stats. Agree about the DUIs and cart thieves, but even those are not rampant. Geez! 🤷🏻*♀️

golfing eagles 11-21-2022 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by G.R.I.T.S. (Post 2159413)
Wife beaters, drug dealers walking “our streets?” I’d like to see those stats. Agree about the DUIs and cart thieves, but even those are not rampant. Geez! 🤷🏻*♀️
Bottom line: Statistically, we live in one of the safest communities in the country. Crime rate is low, not zero. Violent crime is extremely low.

buchananjw1 11-21-2022 06:43 AM
BS
 
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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2159130)
Now that Oren Miller is a convicted felon and is off the streets of the Villages does anyone feel safer? Let’s see, a harmless senior citizen whose trivial crime was misremembering (that’s a Roger Clemens term) the details of some telephone conversations is now behind bars. Meanwhile, wife beaters, drug dealers, drunken drivers, golf cart thieves, and many other dangerous criminals we should all be afraid of are walking around freely on our streets.

Something is seriously wrong with this picture. The moral of the story is that it’s not the crime one commits, it’s the people in high places that one rubs the wrong way that really matters.
He betrayed his oath, he betrayed those of us he was elected to serve, and he did this with full understanding that he was committing a crime -- and then he lied about it. Come on! I agree other criminals should receive the punishments they deserve, but don't belittle his crime saying he's "harmless" and that the crime is "trivial". No crime that blatantly disregards an oath to serve friends and neighbors is trivial and no criminal is harmless.

forebubba 11-21-2022 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 44Apple (Post 2159183)
And, maybe I missed it, but I still haven't seen the Fire Dept results reported in that "paper". Wonder why??
You missed it. Very small 2 or 3 sentence on page 4, 5, or 6
It failed

Warren 11-21-2022 06:54 AM
It is my experience that when you get yourself in a hole, quit digging! That was the real crime here. I doubt he will receive any time. He has already been punished.

BlueStarAirlines 11-21-2022 07:15 AM
It was not this crime was difficult to solve. Step #1 in determining if there was collaboration was to pull the phone records. Using one of the 50 or so phone apps such as Telegram or Signal would have eliminated those records.

They either didn't think they were really breaking the law, didn't think it was that serious of a law, or thought they were above the law. According to the phone records, some calls were seconds....so could have been about donuts. Many other calls were 10 minutes. Both individuals were offered an immunity deal, and only one took it.

Dilligas 11-21-2022 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 2159330)
Absolutely the most brilliant idea I've ever heard of, eliminate the Sunshine Laws. Yeah!!! Let the politicians get behind closed doors and work out all kinds of back room deals that financially/politically benefit them and screw the taxpayers. I've got a news flash, politicians don't do anything behind closed doors that benefits the public. The only politician you can trust is the one you have with your gun to his head.
For proof & example, look at politics in Chicago, Detroit, etc.
Answer to original post….we are safer from corrupt politicians.


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