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Tom2172 02-07-2021 08:21 AM

Fauci is a poor choice for an expert, last 20 years he has wasted billions on aids which only effects a minority of people. But aids is the celebrity cause de jour and allowed Fauci to hang out with Bono! Other disease much more deadly to greater numbers of Americans but were vastly under funded because celebrities only cared about aids.
Fauci also sent $15 million to China’s wuhan lab with idea of creating corona virus based on bats that would spread immunity to aids.
Is it the Corona now infecting the world? Maybe or just a weaponized version!
We can do better then Fauci, fire him so he can hang out with Bono full time

robbroyy 02-07-2021 08:29 AM

Tan Lines.
 
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1898385)
Agree with you about that. We love cruising too and really miss it. Having to wear a mask most of the day is not on my hit parade when it comes to vacation.

Can you imagine the tan lines after a cruise with masks??

Eg_cruz 02-07-2021 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Nevermore (Post 1898467)
Your misunderstanding of science does not make the science incorrect. And your conspiracy theories are ridiculous.

What science
If you want to look at science look at the Frankenstein shot they are giving everyone

WesMan 02-07-2021 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1898226)
Twice on TV I have seen the video of Dr. Fauci with his message about being vaccinated. In the video, Dr. Fauci is encouraging people to be vaccinated and what he says is confusing to me. He said "being vaccinated will not only protect you but it will protect your family and also protect your community".

My confusion lies with the fact that we are being informed to continue to wear masks and social distance even after we have received full immunization and achieve immunity. This is because it is not known yet if an immunized person can still transmit the virus.

I'm not sure what to make of this as they are opposing views.

Dr. Fauci is always causing confusion!!!! I do not believe anything he has to say!!!!! He is another political Hack!!

Redsmom 02-07-2021 08:55 AM

Yes, we have come a long way from just “flatten the curve.”

Peazoup 02-07-2021 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Get real (Post 1898356)
If I was the highest paid federal employee:$: making $492,000 a year I would keep everyone confused too. :$:

NOT nice!

Villages Kahuna 02-07-2021 09:01 AM

MD From Where?
 
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Originally Posted by birdiebill (Post 1898266)
What it means to me is that the vaccine will protect us with up to 95% protection from getting sick from the Covid virus. We still have a 5% chance of getting sick. To get sick, the virus has to get inside our human cells. The vaccine is designed to prevent the virus from getting inside our cells. But, it is unknown if a virus can enter our respiratory tree (nose, mouth, airway, lungs), not be able to enter any of our cells, but then pass out of our respiratory tree and infect someone close to us who has not been vaccinated.

Given a second opinion of Dr. Fauci’s advice from Birdie Bill, I’m sticking with the good doctor.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 02-07-2021 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1898504)
Unlike a lot of people, Dr. Fauci is willing to change his advice based on the latest science. It's pretty sad that a large number of people think that admitting when you're wrong, or changing your mind, based on new information, science and facts - is considered a weakness.

I agree. There has been a huge learning curve with this disease. Getting bad information for other nations and The Who has not helped either.

Cobullymom 02-07-2021 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1898504)
Unlike a lot of people, Dr. Fauci is willing to change his advice based on the latest science. It's pretty sad that a large number of people think that admitting when you're wrong, or changing your mind, based on new information, science and facts - is considered a weakness.

When has he openly admitted he was wrong? He just changes his responses like the wind, and never do I hear him correct his previous statements. He just hopes as most do, they have forgotten along with all the other misinformation that is spewed daily. It’s working so far for the most overpaid employee of the federal government...

Bay Kid 02-07-2021 09:14 AM

I believe everything Fauci tells us. At almost a half million a year he must be the smartest man in dc. No telling what he will tell us tomorrow?

DAVES 02-07-2021 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Hape2Bhr (Post 1898254)
My confusion lies with the fact that we are being informed to continue to wear masks and social distance even after we have received full immunization and achieve immunity. This is because it is not known yet if an immunized person can still transmit the virus.

I'm not sure what to make of this as they are opposing views.


Hook, line, and sinker...sorry.[/QUOTE]

My opinion re: getting the vaccine and continuing to wear masks.
Reality makes most things truly simple. We are being told to wear masks.
No shortage of opinions of how effective it is etc. In any case it is self enforcing
most people do not want to be the stand out in the crowd-the mob. Far easier if everyone is wearing a mask rather than say a store keeper needing to insist you either wear a mask or show PROOF that you have been vaccinated.
Self responsibility? Real world we know that does not work.

Dantes 02-07-2021 09:27 AM

It’s just my opinion but maybe its not a vaccine it is in mind controll serum in six months we will all think and talk the same way and opinions will be nonexistent just a thought for the day

DAVES 02-07-2021 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobullymom (Post 1898580)
When has he openly admitted he was wrong? He just changes his responses like the wind, and never do I hear him correct his previous statements. He just hopes as most do, they have forgotten along with all the other misinformation that is spewed daily. It’s working so far for the most overpaid employee of the federal government...

Not defending Faucci. Just pointing out reality. How many times do people admit they were wrong? If, they do it is I did what I did because .......... That is not saying you know I was wrong and I am sorry.

Nazdad 02-07-2021 09:43 AM

So Do you get 95% immunity to a disease that affects 10% of the population and we still have to wear masks and social distance I think this is the new method I don’t understand either

Two Bills 02-07-2021 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dhdallas (Post 1898595)
That comment makes no sense.

Sounds like a discussion on Dutch Elm Disease to me!:icon_wink:

Aloha1 02-07-2021 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by birdiebill (Post 1898266)
What it means to me is that the vaccine will protect us with up to 95% protection from getting sick from the Covid virus. We still have a 5% chance of getting sick. To get sick, the virus has to get inside our human cells. The vaccine is designed to prevent the virus from getting inside our cells. But, it is unknown if a virus can enter our respiratory tree (nose, mouth, airway, lungs), not be able to enter any of our cells, but then pass out of our respiratory tree and infect someone close to us who has not been vaccinated.

Which pretty much applies to all of us, vaccinated or not. Any of us could be exhaling or have on our surface Covid particles. It is the amount of those particles that you might get that could determine infection. Duration of contact along with load are the keys.

dhdallas 02-07-2021 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1898226)
Twice on TV I have seen the video of Dr. Fauci with his message about being vaccinated. In the video, Dr. Fauci is encouraging people to be vaccinated and what he says is confusing to me. He said "being vaccinated will not only protect you but it will protect your family and also protect your community".

My confusion lies with the fact that we are being informed to continue to wear masks and social distance even after we have received full immunization and achieve immunity. This is because it is not known yet if an immunized person can still transmit the virus.

I'm not sure what to make of this as they are opposing views.

You state "we are being informed to continue to wear masks" by who? Every “Tom, Dick, & Harry” has an opinion. Many of these people do NOT understand the scientific facts regarding vaccinations and have thrown rational thinking out the window!

Vaccines train our immune systems to create proteins that fight disease, known as ‘antibodies’, just as would happen when we are exposed to a disease. Even people without symptoms develop an immune response. - WHO (World Health Organization)

A person who is now immune cannot get or give the disease. The COVID virus is NOT one of those diseases in which an immune person can be a carrier.

Myself, my family, my neighbors, and millions of others have already had COVID and are naturally immune. We do not need to wear a mask.

I have stated this fact before but there is always someone who points out that we may not be immune against the new variants of COVID. On January 25, 2021, Moderna published a press release announcing that their vaccine is effective against the B.1.1.7 variant. Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech both said their vaccines were effective against new variants of the coronavirus discovered in Britain and South Africa.

There will always be those whose irrational fears due to the media's bombardment of the worst case scenarios have eclipsed common sense. Johns Hopkins University of Medicine's COVID Research Center states the percentage of deaths in the U.S. due to COVID is 1.7%. Yes, you can find other studies with higher death rate percentages but they are all still quite low.

I am not going to wear a mask forever in fear of the ever mutating variants of viruses. Enough is enough!

- David H. Dallas, RN-ASN, EMT-P, retired

allenpegg1@gmail.com 02-07-2021 10:23 AM

So, get a vaccine that's 92% effective to counter a virus that has a 1% death rate still leaves a chance to get the virus.

GeriS 02-07-2021 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by birdiebill (Post 1898266)
What it means to me is that the vaccine will protect us with up to 95% protection from getting sick from the Covid virus. We still have a 5% chance of getting sick. To get sick, the virus has to get inside our human cells. The vaccine is designed to prevent the virus from getting inside our cells. But, it is unknown if a virus can enter our respiratory tree (nose, mouth, airway, lungs), not be able to enter any of our cells, but then pass out of our respiratory tree and infect someone close to us who has not been vaccinated.

And without the vaccine you have a 99.8% recovery rate. Why do the quote cases & not deaths? Wake up sheelple.

TFordos 02-07-2021 10:43 AM

Yes, you can, contract the virus, and transmit the virus, after receiving both shots.

Jacob85 02-07-2021 11:00 AM

My guess is that the sooner most of us are vaccinated the sooner we reach herd immunity

Bill14564 02-07-2021 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GeriS (Post 1898660)
And without the vaccine you have a 99.8% recovery rate. Why do the quote cases & not deaths? Wake up sheelple.

That figure may be right for someone under 40 years of age but for those of us over 55 the recovery rate is somewhat less and significantly less for those over 65 (the group currently eligible for the vaccine)

oldtimes 02-07-2021 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jacob85 (Post 1898680)
My guess is that the sooner most of us are vaccinated the sooner we reach herd immunity

There are approximately 80 million people who are not being vaccinated because they are under the age of 18 and have not been cleared to get it. Add the people who are not advised to get it for medical reasons and then the ones who refuse to get it and herd immunity is questionable. There is still SO much they don’t know yet like how long immunity will even last.

Bill14564 02-07-2021 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 1898693)
There are approximately 80 million people who are not being vaccinated because they are under the age of 18 and have not been cleared to get it. Add the people who are not advised to get it for medical reasons and then the ones who refuse to get it and herd immunity is questionable. There is still SO much they don’t know yet like how long immunity will even last.

By the time the 18 years and under crowd would become eligible for the vaccine it will have been determined that it is safe for them to get it. As much as I don't like it, it will be a surprise to me if Covid vaccination doesn't become a requirement for attending public school.

Herd immunity will take care of itself. Those that want to get vaccinated and those that will be required to be vaccinated will be. Those that refuse to get vaccinated will either get lucky and not contract the virus or will become part of the herd the natural way. For the most part, the virus will only be a risk to those who choose to be at risk.

Immunity will last until next Fall. At that point the science will indicate that the best course of action will be to get a Covid booster along with the yearly flu shot.

Sherrilee 02-07-2021 12:40 PM

This vaccination will need yearly booster as in flu shot..I read . it’s only good for 6-8 months of immunity. I’m not sure we will ever get heard immunity as 70- 80 percent of people will need vaccine and don’t know if younger people will get it as much

chrissy2231 02-07-2021 12:42 PM

Because we can still get the virus.

Stu from NYC 02-07-2021 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherrilee (Post 1898732)
This vaccination will need yearly booster as in flu shot..I read . it’s only good for 6-8 months of immunity. I’m not sure we will ever get heard immunity as 70- 80 percent of people will need vaccine and don’t know if younger people will get it as much

And where did you hear it is good for only 6-8 months of immunity?

Mustagotlost 02-07-2021 12:48 PM

Yeah, I don’t trust him any more.

Spalumbos62 02-07-2021 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Art cov (Post 1898392)
We have heard too many confusing statements the past year from the great doc that I know when he says something, it’s going to be more confusion. I think he loves all the tv time he can get. The vaccine doesn’t mean your not going to get sick from COVID but may lesson the severity of the virus. Therefore mask should still be worn. In fact to cover themselves from looking ridiculous, you should wear 2 or 3 mask or maybe the government will issue an extra thick mask for added protection. That way possibly not too many people will get the virus even after getting the shots. To protect their views to get everyone vaccinated. Some may not believe but I was hearing this on the radio from one of the “ get vaccinated gurus”. The mask will be recommended for a long time. Who really trust anything the politicians say or their sidekicks? They gave us some certainty that mask won’t be needed after shots were given, to push the idea of no more mask! It all changes!

They never said there will be no more mask....never,ever did I hear that..pls post where got that.

mjpuleo 02-07-2021 02:21 PM

Frankly, I don't think anyone, not even the medical experts or scientists, have a definite answer about COVID or what the vaccines does or doesn't do. Only time will tell. Our country was not prepared for this.

graciegirl 02-07-2021 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1898226)
Twice on TV I have seen the video of Dr. Fauci with his message about being vaccinated. In the video, Dr. Fauci is encouraging people to be vaccinated and what he says is confusing to me. He said "being vaccinated will not only protect you but it will protect your family and also protect your community".

My confusion lies with the fact that we are being informed to continue to wear masks and social distance even after we have received full immunization and achieve immunity. This is because it is not known yet if an immunized person can still transmit the virus.

I'm not sure what to make of this as they are opposing views.

I was sent a missive from my medical member of the family that says it is possible to still be able to spread the virus even if you are now immune from it's effects...As for masks...we are all quite tired of them, but like the commercial for deodorant used to say............."Why be half safe?"....;)

Spalumbos62 02-07-2021 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Get real (Post 1898512)
Wow..all these experts on here giving us their "expert" opinion. Cuz I heard it on TV. Yes Puppets.:blahblahblah:

Actually, quite the contrary. Its so annoying to hear people complain like children about wearing their mask, or how stupid fauci is, or how its all the government.....fine...
Don't wear your mask...dont social distance...who cares. You wanna be that lonely boat out at sea...do it. But before you do, pls spend one day at the hospital watching people die,young, old and inbetween...allot were folks just like you ....complain,complain,complain.
One funny thing...all this mask wearing...no flu this season...."things that make you go humm"

Gulfcoast 02-07-2021 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Spalumbos62 (Post 1898784)
They never said there will be no more mask....never,ever did I hear that..pls post where got that.

The hope was that when the vaccine came out and people got vaccinated, the whole mask wearing thing would go away, too. Can you imagine be a HS track athlete and having to wear a mask while running outside? Some school systems think that's a reasonable request!

We are being fed this line about it being possible for you to spread Covid to others even if you've been vaccinated. So don't just wear a mask, double up on your masks just like you got two shots of the Covid vaccine to be extra safe. But, alas, even that is no guarantee that you'll be safe but it will keep others safe....and now my head will explode.

nodie 02-07-2021 03:28 PM

This info is not actually contradicting. The vaccine will protect 95% of the recipients from the known variations of covid 19. So 5% may still contract covid 19 although they are unlikely to be severely ill or die from the virus. However, there is uncertainty about the new variants from the UK, So Africa, Brazil and California. So it is possible for a vaccinated person to carry the virus to others. That's why the recommendation is to continue to wear face masks and maintain social distancing. The other part of the problem that I see that is many folks believe that if they are outside with others that they don't have to wear a mask or distance. There is a prevalence of the idea that "I'm doing everything right" but in fact, the virus continues to spread because of lack of masks and social distancing. I read a statistic recently but I can't find it now that if everyone wore a mask for 2 weeks 50,000 people would not die from covid. A brief ride through any of the downtown areas of any of the villages will demonstrate the lack of contagion protocols.

Gulfcoast 02-07-2021 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nodie (Post 1898818)
This info is not actually contradicting. The vaccine will protect 95% of the recipients from the known variations of covid 19. So 5% may still contract covid 19 although they are unlikely to be severely ill or die from the virus. However, there is uncertainty about the new variants from the UK, So Africa, Brazil and California. So it is possible for a vaccinated person to carry the virus to others. That's why the recommendation is to continue to wear face masks and maintain social distancing. The other part of the problem that I see that is many folks believe that if they are outside with others that they don't have to wear a mask or distance. There is a prevalence of the idea that "I'm doing everything right" but in fact, the virus continues to spread because of lack of masks and social distancing. I read a statistic recently but I can't find it now that if everyone wore a mask for 2 weeks 50,000 people would not die from covid. A brief ride through any of the downtown areas of any of the villages will demonstrate the lack of contagion protocols.

And, yet, somehow cases of the flu have PLUMMETED to next to nothing? How is that possible?

Gulfcoast 02-07-2021 03:39 PM

As an interesting note, we're pretty sure that we were exposed to Covid earlier in the year before testing was a thing. And the individual who exposed us had just gotten back from a trip to (get this!) Europe. Don't you remember how people were asked if they had traveled abroad, etc. Why were they asked that? Because they were getting infected and bringing it back to our country. This VARIANT stuff is ridiculous. It's the same virus originating from the same place.

Gulfcoast 02-07-2021 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1898821)
Put all the powdered sugar on BS you wish, but it is still BS. It doesn't take an advanced education to see that, but brainwashing by higher education can sure blind some.

Fauci makes little sense. That old dude has had his hand in one too many cookie jars.

Byte1 02-07-2021 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherrilee (Post 1898732)
This vaccination will need yearly booster as in flu shot..I read . it’s only good for 6-8 months of immunity. I’m not sure we will ever get heard immunity as 70- 80 percent of people will need vaccine and don’t know if younger people will get it as much

I have never had the Flu in my lifetime and haven't had the Flu vaccination in over 50 years. I got my COVID vaccination but I have no intention of ever getting it again. No one makes you wear a mask during flu season and what is the percentage of those getting the flu shot every year? No one gets a little white card saying they have had the flu vaccination every year so that they can travel or enter a store to shop for groceries. Time for all the fuss to stop and for everyone to see if they are of the 1% effected or the 99% that shrug it off. As a matter of fact, I have NEVER witnessed a time in America where we were forced to wear masks to ward off an evil demon illness. You can't live forever, but if you want to try how about keeping it to yourself and let others take their day to day chances with nature?

OrangeBlossomBaby 02-07-2021 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lwyoder (Post 1898440)

Steve Hilton is a British political commentator and former political adviser. He is a conspiracy nutjob, has zero scientific credentials, zero actual investigative credentials, and is basically just a political mouthpiece for the alt-right.

Who Dr. Fauci really is, is transparent, and not some secret thing with a hidden agenda. Only a conspiracy nutjob would claim otherwise.

Your "source" is not credible. Not even almost, sorta maybe has a point credible. Just completely and thoroughly not credible.

graciegirl 02-07-2021 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mjpuleo (Post 1898787)
Frankly, I don't think anyone, not even the medical experts or scientists, have a definite answer about COVID or what the vaccines does or doesn't do. Only time will tell. Our country was not prepared for this.

Ummm make that the world, please.


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