Why do you think the fetus should have rights?
I support a woman right to choose to a point.
I do not support late term abortion

Wish men truly understood but this is one subject men can’t ……..men will never be in her shoes for this reason they should not have a say.

I do as soon as the batter has a heartbeat.

It's a women's decision, the courts should have nothing to do with it!

I think you misunderstand my post.

When does someone begin to have rights??

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I agree with you, it is not a ban. Rights revert to the states. I do not care your decision, I do not want to pay for it with tax payer dollars.

I prefer it be federal. I am a citizen of the United States first and for most. I just happen to life in FL.
As a citizen of the US I want the federal courts to protect my rights no matter where I live.

Murder is a state crime with a few exceptions, such as when the murder takes place on federal land, it is a federal judge who is murdered, or when the suspect is apprehended fleeing to another state.

Drug use is largely a state decision. States are allowing increased marijuana use such as for medical reasons, and in some cases even recreational use (ten states plus Washington DC have approved it for recreational use). The feds get involved in cases of interstate drug commerce or when other federal laws are broken in the process. The War on Drugs and the creation of the DEA were implemented for this reason, not so much to curb usage but commerce in drugs.

Illegal immigration? There again the feds get involved (though not nearly so much as they could) when federal law is broken. Strictly speaking every illegal alien has already broken federal law when they cross the border. States get involved when the illegals break STATE laws, though there is an increasing effort by states to control what in large part the federal government decides not to enforce.

The Constitution, per the Tenth Amendment, is clear on this: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." We were birthed as a country with strong STATE'S rights. I think the trend may go back that way.

Spoken like a man………..
Like the choice of the men saying it’s not mine…..your body your problem
Which happens everyday, men walk away and then men what to have a say….what a joke

I've never walked away, so can i say?? :1rotfl:

Maybe if the women made a better choice in the first place, she would not be considering murder.



(again, ignoring the rape issue)

Love this

What the hell kind of cake are you baking? 😧

Make sure that if he is able to reproduce, he is in a committed contracted relationship with a woman who wants to reproduce as well, and that HE has enough available assets put in escrow to cover the cost of the childbirth, maternity leave, and first few years of the baby's life.

The second they can take their first breath out of the womb
Again not a supporter of late term abortions

In any circumstances?

If the mother will die in childbirth and that mother is your daughter?

Scary.

The definition of "person" needs to be uniform in the United States. In each State it should mean the same thing. Not a states' rights matter. The Supreme Court made a huge mistake before defining "person" and it gave much fuel for the fire the lead to the Civil War.

The Supreme Court, Abortion, and the New Dred Scott – scheerpost.com

Are you kidding me right now.
WHAT ABOUT THE MAN MAKING THE RIGHT OR BETTER DECISIONS
Man you truly don’t get.

Such a typical male view ……..IF YOU ARE GOING TO PUT THE ACT OF GETTING PREGNANT 100% ON THE FEMALE THEN THE DECISION WHAT TO DO NEXT IS ALSO 100% Decision hers.

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In Texas if an abortion is performed anyone who is involved in aiding it can be sued even the uber driver taking the person to have the abortion clinic. I don't understand why not go after the man who help or forcibly create the pregnancy. Chop off his private parts.

I support all medial necessary one hundred percent no matter what

I'd rather see the government get OUT of the business between a woman and her physician. Abortions shouldn't be legal or illegal. They should be treated no differently than the laws involving getting a tooth removed, a mastectomy in a woman with breast cancer, a hysterectomy in a woman with uterine cancer, or a broken bone repaired. It is a medical procedure and should be given the same legislative treatment as any other medical procedure.

The act is not 100% female (learned that in 7th grade), silly you think that is a typical view.

Tell me, which States have passed those laws? The PEOPLE in each State will determine what State laws are passed. If a majority want Abortion legal, that’s what they will have, or they will vote the people out that don’r do what the majority wants. Someone posted that 75-85% of people want abortion legal. I don’t agree with that statistic and think there are more pro-life people in the country. Personally, I think there are specific cases that it should be legal, but most cases, especially 2nd or 3rd term, unless for the life of the mother, should be banned. Just my opinion.

A newborn infant is not viable on it's own. So your point is moot...

Still no slices ???
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Pretty soon none of us will not be viable on our own.

Watch out for CB & friends.

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If you kill a pregnant woman, you're charged with TWO murders...

We've been told not to discuss (the "Illegal" thingy)... Remember, you asked to be told...

But "undocumented immigrants" are being shipped nationwide (including Wisconsin), so yes, they have to deal with it...

As far as immigration is concerned, as you have got off topic a bit, that would be great! Texas and Arizona could totally close their borders and California would increase their population by double. Arizona would probably have to close their border to California also.

Or maybe ask three year old little girls if they would like to be a boy and if YES, sterilize and make them happy

Much for the States to consider


Childhood parental sexual assault
Rape by sibling
Rape by adults attached to the family
Gang Rape
Date Rape
Date drug rape
Etc. etc. etc.

Do you think elected officials will be able to come to agreement on these scenarios?

I was one of the lucky women who never had to face any of these, but I can assure you had I ever been raped and impregnated I would never, ever, under any circumstances, have taken that pregnancy to full term.

Like I said "much to consider".

Sometimes and some places. Not always.

That seems pretty off topic.

Consider:
Persons on a ventilator "can't survive without help"
Persons in a coma "can't survive without help"
Many elderly in a "home" "can't survive without help"
Persons with advanced dimentia "can't survive without help"
Post natal infants "can't survive without help" for _____ (fill in the blank) on the period of time, ad infinitum

It's a non sequitur :)

Fred

Sterilize boy babies until they affirm that they will take responsibility for the child? Why not do the same for girl babies? Because, it’s outrageous to even suggest that.

I don't think it was off topic - the poster I replied to was promoting that states should make the decisions, it was a States Rights issue and the Federal Government should stay out because abortion was not mentioned in the Constitution.

My reply was pointing out there are a lot of places where the Fed's provide a baseline law, and states can then "improve" on that law if they want to.

There are many "unenumerated" rights that we enjoy - right to marry, right to marry people of other races. Right to privacy is not mentioned, you want police to be able to break down your door and barge in because they want to, without a warrant?

This opens a real can of worms (as someone pointed out earlier).

I would love to see all the men that are against abortion, owning up to their responsibilities and paying a quarter of their salaries in child support. And all the people who insist that these unwanted fetuses be carried to term adopt those children born with severe birth defects and be responsible for their care for many years. While they're at it, they can take over the care of offspring from rape and incest victims. And isn't it interesting that the same people who won't support abortion, also don't want publicly funded health insurance to cover birth control, however its okay for Medicare to cover the generic form of Viagara. And how ironic that these same anti-abortion folks are all in favor of capital punishment.

It appears you are a bored person who likes to stir things up. Sure explains you living in a place that promotes outside activities yet somehow your claim to fame is almost 7,000 posts from in your home.

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If you made sense, I could reply.
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