My preference would be that the states enact their own laws. This way if you don't agree with the law you can move to another state. Such freedoms don't exist with Federal Law unless you want to leave the country. The SC is doing their job by ruling on Roe.

My concern is the last time we left something affecting human rights up to the States it didn't turn out well.

We're off to a bad start with States already passing laws to try to affect what happens in others (can't remember the details right now but along the lines of enabling their citizens to sue doctors in abortion-friendly States).

My Body, My Choice people should have been smarter about their first choice & wouldn't have to make the second choice. As stated by a friend.




Yes, Yes, Yes, rape is different.

What I find outrageous won’t execute serial killers or murderers, but abortion no problem.

Some federal laws are just not enforced, so really don’t have to move in some cases.

Define a viable human. That is what is the crux of this debate. If a fetus is not viable on its own, there is no murder of a human or non human. Doesn't matter what the definition of human is.

Exactly!

Exactly!

American Creation: The Founding Fathers and Abortion in Colonial America

I found this relevant to this thread.

[QUOTE=dewilson58;2092195]My Body, My Choice people should have been smarter about their first choice & wouldn't have to make the second choice. As stated by a friend.






Abortion followed immediately by sterilization. No second offenders

[QUOTE=thevillages2013;2092244]This should be done to stop baby mills.
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Life is like a box of chocolates
 

in the game of falling dominoes, is not the first one as important as the last ? Opinions cannot obfuscate physics, human ego thinks it can.
It can't. As in dominoes, it really is black or white.

Simple solution. Sterilize men at birth. Have it reversed when it's approved that they can reproduce. The approval board is made up by women who are not their mother.

You can argue all day long about abortion, but this has nothing to do with whether you are killing a baby, fetus or whatever. It has nothing to do with a "woman's rights."
It is decision as to whether or not the Federal Gov. should have any say or whether it should be left up to the states to decide if they wish to legalize abortion in their state. It has to do with Federal Government overreach. It does not define what is abortion, murder or anything to do with infringing on women's rights. Just a simple decision on whether or not Roe is going to control our individual states rights. And the whole thing is based on a "draft" of what is being proposed. If I am wrong, show me in Dodd where I am wrong on my analysis. This is NOT political, but a Constitutional legality of whether or not the overlord federal gov can make decisions for individuals in an individual state or abide by the 10th Amendment.

Here's what I don't understand, it's not okay to have an abortion because you're killing a baby but there's a carve out that says if it's the woman's life in danger or the pregnancy is from a rape etc, or the baby is going to be born brain dead or terribly defective it is then okay? So really what's the difference whether or not the baby dies from an abortion due to these reasons but not any other reason? Yes it's morality and you can't base it on religious law. Religious war has certainly been fought on lesser reasons. I believe the best thing for the country is it to be decided on a state-by-state basis and then you live where you want to. I have three children two of which our daughters and they are extremely for a woman's rights for their own bodies. I remember many years where I would read about women dying because they go to get " fixed " with an unlicensed uncertified so-called doctor Who was not really a doctor. Was that worse? And honestly I never hear anyone say okay you should have the baby and I'll take care of it for you and pay all the expenses and love it for you, but of course there were tens of thousands of potential parents waiting for adoptions. There is no right answer excepting in your own brain. And since the schools and your own parents don't really teach you much about how not to get pregnant I will never see a solution in my lifetime