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Pairadocs 09-12-2023 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2255625)
Some people think they are more important than the rest of us.

Animal Farm: We are ALL equal here; it's just that some of us are more equal than others. Orwell

jimbomaybe 09-13-2023 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 2255618)
Energy Granholm demonstrates how to easily travel with her EV. Hopefully her experience turns into a learning experience. Kind of why developers put in infrastructure before they build houses.


EV driver calls cops on Energy Secretary after her staff blocks charger with ICE car | Electrek

She was making a point with her demonstration, all one needs to do is have your staff/security team get out ahead of of you (in their gas powered veh) pave the way for your procession and all will be seamless, perhaps that is not the message she intended but abundantly clear

GizmoWhiskers 09-13-2023 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 2256047)
She was making a point with her demonstration, all one needs to do is have your staff/security team get out ahead of of you (in their gas powered veh) pave the way for your procession and all will be seamless, perhaps that is not the message she intended but abundantly clear

Lol... now there's a business idea - EV placeholders. Call ahead and we will wait in charging spot for you. K-ching$$$$. Villagers, WAWA 441 in Lady Lake Tesla spaces available today. Schedule check.

Cobullymom 09-13-2023 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2255766)
I kind of doubt she makes decisions like where to park for gas. Could even have been her security detail checking out the place for her and her team's safety.

Pray tell why does the energy secretary get a security detail when the Supreme court Justices don't even have them? This woman is a bimbo and disgrace.

Meboko 09-13-2023 05:52 AM

Not very nice to call someone a bimbo. Very rude.

Caymus 09-13-2023 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GizmoWhiskers (Post 2256074)
Lol... now there's a business idea - EV placeholders. Call ahead and we will wait in charging spot for you. K-ching$$$$. Villagers, WAWA 441 in Lady Lake Tesla spaces available today. Schedule check.

Or use old chairs/furniture to reserve the spot.:smiley::smiley:

Where I grew up, people would shovel the snow in front of their homes and put chairs in the spot to save it.

mrf0151 09-13-2023 06:24 AM

No worries on EV range as maybe Toyota has a better idea and it may crush lithium:

https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=de975...xY083TTk&ntb=1

merrymini 09-13-2023 06:30 AM

So stupid. EV s have a place but it may not have every place. This is what happens when you do not have a brain.

Blackbird45 09-13-2023 06:32 AM

They say nothing is for certain but death and taxes, that is no longer true. About every six weeks the topic of climate change and EVs appears on this site.

So, let’s dive into it. We all know that the problem with EVs is the batteries. Distance, charging time, life of the battery and cost. Now Toyota claims by 2027 they will be able to mass produce solid state batteries that will take care of most of these issues. Beside that Tesla has open some of their charging station to some other car companies, also the carmakers BMW Group, General Motors, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Mercedes-Benz Group and Stellantis, will initially invest at least $1 billion in a joint venture that will build 30,000 charging ports on major highways and other locations in the United States and Canada. These companies are not doing this to save the planet, it’s a lot less expensive to slap a couple of electric motors on the wheels of a car than the cost of a combustion engine and everything that goes with it. Reduce the cost means an increase in profits.

Now let’s move onto climate change where there are two camps, those who claim we are going to be knee high in water within the next 10 years. We will label this group the Chicken-Licken who believed the sky is falling. The other group claims that changes in the climate have nothing to do with man, it is the earth going through a cycle that has happened before and there is nothing we can do to stop it. We will label this group the Ostriches with their head buried in the sand. Now who is right I’m not sure, but I lean toward Chicken-Licken "only because if they are wrong, we have wasted money and resources, on the other hand if the Ostriches are wrong, they will be responsible for wiping out mankind and I have a grandson.

What concern me more than climate change is pollution. In the early 80s I was working on a project in the California hills, on the ride to the destination the sun was trying to break through a yellow sky. I mentioned the color of the sky and the person sitting next to me a California native simply said it’s pollution, and that it usually burns off by 11am. Who in their right mind would want to live in that, in no way could that have been healthy. Don’t people believe the old saying “Don’t s**t where you eat”. I personally can’t wait for EVs to take hold before the combustion engine kills all of us with either carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide or menthane. Isn’t it nice there are three options on the menu.

Bay Kid 09-13-2023 06:34 AM

She helped me know why I would never want an EV. 45 minute charge, once you find a charging station, plus the cost of charging.

rsmurano 09-13-2023 06:37 AM

You do know why her group parked a gas car in the ev charging slot? So she would not have to wait for hours for other ev owners to charge their cars. Heaven forbid they show the truth on what really happens at charging stations.

It’s funny every climate change hoax during the last 100 years has a 10 year life span before we are all going to perish. Remember a couple years ago AOC made a prediction that in 10 years we will perish if we don’t do something about the cows farting and climate change.

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Putting the 'con' in consensus; Not only is there no 97 per cent consensus among climate scientists, many misunderstand core issues | Fraser Institute

50 years of predictions that the climate apocalypse is nigh

ehonour 09-13-2023 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 2255618)
Energy Granholm demonstrates how to easily travel with her EV.]

She plans a trip from Charlotte, NC to Memphis, TN as a demonstration, a total distance of 620 miles. In a gasoline car, that's one fuel stop (and a few bathroom stops, if you wish) for 10 minutes. In an EV, that's at least two recharge stops for about 1.5 hours.

But then, she somehow ends up in Augusta, GA? That's 160 miles directly out of the way?

So apparently her road trip was a planned out-of-the-way route for the purposes of demonstration. If they went to that much planning, they likely had every charging station on the route scoped out in advance to make sure the chargers were working, plus a fleet of advance cars paving the way.

Nice "demonstration" of what the average Joe might experience.

Marine1974 09-13-2023 08:02 AM

Good luck with taking a long trip with an electric car . You might spend more time charging the battery than actually driving . The land that is mined for all the material needed to make an electric car battery is rendered uninhabitable due to the toxic chemicals used in the mining process. All the heavy duty earth moving equipment is run on gasoline or diesel . The electric bus manufacturer that the U.S. poured billions into just went bankrupt. Make your own opinion of electric vehicles.
The secretary of energy blocked the charging station and probably others because they didn’t want to spend more time charging than driving . What does that tell you ?

JRcorvette 09-13-2023 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueblaze (Post 2255985)
I thought it was a brilliant demonstration of how farcically impractical it is to own a vehicle that requires more hours to charge than you can drive in a single stretch -- unless you want to quick-charge it for a mere 45 minutes and risk it becoming a bomb, while you pay more for the inconvenience of a 45 minute layover than you would have paid for 5-minute gas stop -- and that's assuming you can find a quick charger before your 250 mile range runs out.

It was a particularly hilarious touch for her to send her minions ahead to reserve a charger, and along the way, harass any normal people they discovered making use of those ridiculous charging spots that always attempt to waste the best parking spots at any facility.

Was she intentionally trying to persuade people to quit buying these ridiculous cars? No, I think our "Energy Secretary" really is so clueless about energy that she thought she could drive one of these silly machines across the country as easily as across town.

In any case, it was good for a laugh, and with clowns like Jennifer Granholm and Peter Buttigieg running things, Lord knows we need a laugh!

Exactly…. We are not ready for most people to drive an EV. The dirty truth is that the production of an EV and it’s massive batteries pollutes much more than any gas car.

roadrnnr 09-13-2023 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackbird45 (Post 2256103)
T Now who is right I’m not sure, but I lean toward Chicken-Licken "only because if they are wrong, we have wasted money and resources, on the other hand if the Ostriches are wrong, they will be responsible for wiping out mankind and I have a grandson.

Just disregard everything these fools are doing has absolutely no effect on Climate and never will, while we pay up the nose for their "Cult" Ideology!


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