Originally Posted by Southwest737 (Post 2307800)

The single motor Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Plus weighs in at 3,582 lbs.
The other two dual-motor Model 3 trims, Long Range and Performance, both weigh in at 4,065 lbs.
Curb weight of a Toyota Camry is 3580 lbs.
I drive a M3LR and after 20,000 miles tire wear is normal. Plenty of tread for at least another 20k.
What a POC article. More lies about EVs. The truth is it’s the best car we have owned. We did not buy it due to climate change. We bought it because it is highly efficient torque beast that blows away antiquated inefficient ICE vehicles.

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2308098)

Everyone seems to forget the reality of EV market. No one wants them. Anyone who did, already bought one.

Dealerships can't sell them. Manufacturers can't make money with them. If it wasn't for federal subsidies, Tesla would have folded years ago. Hertz is dumping 20,000 EV's. EV's are one of the biggest frauds ever foisted on the public.

... & along comes little ol' Toyota. The envy of every auto manufacturer in the world and tells us what anyone with a brain has known for 15 years.

If you want to replace ICE vehicles, hybrids are the only way to go. Not that Toyota knows much about cars, right?


Toyota says it would rather buy credits than ‘waste’ money on EVs | Electrek (Interview with the CEO of Toyota, for Automotive News, 3/1/24)

Originally Posted by ElDiabloJoe (Post 2307640)

Well, here's my shocked face :-|. Wait, ya mean there's been an agenda being pushed all these years? Nooooo, I don't believe that.

Sorry, it's not a FoxNews link, you can't just dismiss it because you don't like the source (ostrich syndrome).

Electric cars release MORE toxic emissions than gas-powered vehicles and are worse for the environment, finds shock report | Daily Mail Online

Originally Posted by Slapnut (Post 2308071)

I've read where it uses as much emissions to mine the ingredients for the electric car as a vehicle that has 150,000 miles of road use. Not to forget that China is the country that has the resources and gets rich off of our government

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2308098)

Everyone seems to forget the reality of EV market. No one wants them. Anyone who did, already bought one.

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2308098)

Dealerships can't sell them.

Manufacturers can't make money with them.

Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2308098)

Everyone seems to forget the reality of EV market. No one wants them. Anyone who did, already bought one.

Dealerships can't sell them. Manufacturers can't make money with them. If it wasn't for federal subsidies, Tesla would have folded years ago. Hertz is dumping 20,000 EV's. EV's are one of the biggest frauds ever foisted on the public.

... & along comes little ol' Toyota. The envy of every auto manufacturer in the world and tells us what anyone with a brain has known for 15 years.

If you want to replace ICE vehicles, hybrids are the only way to go. Not that Toyota knows much about cars, right?


Toyota says it would rather buy credits than ‘waste’ money on EVs | Electrek (Interview with the CEO of Toyota, for Automotive News, 3/1/24)

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 2307880)

Most people don’t know what makes a car run. There’s more bad things about EV’s than good. For instants, EV’s get No mileage on a charge, you won’t see charging stations along interstate or highways, all you’’ll see while you’re driving for a 1/2 hr. to an hr.is gas stations & if you do find a charging station you’ll be sitting there for at least an hr. or longer charging your EV if there’s no EV there being charged already, quick chargers just over heat your battery to possibly catch your EV on fire or over heat your battery to the point where in a couple of yrs. It’ll ruin your battery to the point you’ll have to spend 15 to over $20,000 to replace your battery, EV’s are expensive to buy, maintenance is expensive to maintain your EV, power outages are going to happen. So you better have a can of electricity or a generator that’s capable of charging your EV oh yea our president is going to get rid of gas stations. Oh I could go on & on. But the EV experts already have this already figured out. Not trying to be a know it all but I did work at a auto plant for 38 yrs. so I do & did hear about EV’s before most didn’t know what EV meant. EV’s have there purpose but not to drive 1,000 miles to see Billy or Susy!

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2308003)

Unrelated.....but so sad to see iconic vehicles like the Ford Mustang go the EV route. I mean isn’t the whole enjoyment of a ‘stang’ is starting her up and hearing the 351 Cleveland?!
You turn on a current model and you hear....nothing.

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 2307880)

Most people don’t know what makes a car run. There’s more bad things about EV’s than good. For instants, EV’s get No mileage on a charge, you won’t see charging stations along interstate or highways, all you’’ll see while you’re driving for a 1/2 hr. to an hr.is gas stations & if you do find a charging station you’ll be sitting there for at least an hr. or longer charging your EV if there’s no EV there being charged already, quick chargers just over heat your battery to possibly catch your EV on fire or over heat your battery to the point where in a couple of yrs. It’ll ruin your battery to the point you’ll have to spend 15 to over $20,000 to replace your battery, EV’s are expensive to buy, maintenance is expensive to maintain your EV, power outages are going to happen. So you better have a can of electricity or a generator that’s capable of charging your EV oh yea our president is going to get rid of gas stations. Oh I could go on & on. But the EV experts already have this already figured out. Not trying to be a know it all but I did work at a auto plant for 38 yrs. so I do & did hear about EV’s before most didn’t know what EV meant. EV’s have there purpose but not to drive 1,000 miles to see Billy or Susy!

Originally Posted by Bealman (Post 2308132)

I am not sad, I love my Mache. It will clean the 351 Cleveland away. I don't need sound to know something is fast(supposedly). The Mache is not taking away the Mustang moniker from the gas. It is being used to supplement the Mustang line up.

Originally Posted by ffresh (Post 2307843)

Most folks, IMHO, either have NO clue about what you write, or, will conclude you are a tin foil hat-wearing "conspiracy theorist" because so many are clueless! I agree with everything you wrote except your statement "The haze over The Villages is air plane produced". These chemtrails are delivered into the atmosphere by airplanes but not produced by them. Great response and right on the money. The only thing I would add is that these heavy, toxic metals, i.e. chemtrails also eventually settle onto the soil and, most likely become systemic in many agricultural plants, so eat up and breathe in folks - your government is here to help :crap2:

P..s. Bill Gates and Harvard are heavily involved in this nefarious activity (to benefit mankind, of course :eek:)

Fred