[QUOTE=Caymus;2308273]I wonder if the left's attack on Tesla will increase pollution at the factory.

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I’m so confused, I thought ‘the left’ promotes EV and renewable energy? I think the attack you speak of could be aimed at Elon Musk and his politics in general. The guy is a visionary. I mean he pushed out tens of thousands of flame throwers a few years ago, sold them out in hours and broke the internet. Now back to our mutual admiration of fossil fueled classics!

Just an observation, based on nothing more than being old and having been around the block a few times.

The folks that buy those cars, are "non-conformist" in the worst sense of the world. They think they're "special" and "cutting edge". They don't want to look like everyone else, nor be associated with the mundane or status quo (per their version of the world). They'd rather drive an ugly car, with inferior quality and design, to differentiate themselves from the masses who "kowtow to THE man".

The problem with "minorities" of any sort (not an intended racial slur or anything like that, "minority" in the true sense of the word), is they all seem to adopt some outward, defining mode of dress, buying habits or social behavior, to advertise their non-conformance. In the case of Tesla, they buy ugly cars of the new Mustang. Who of our age, would ever envision a Ford Mustang, that looks anything like the new EV Mustang?

I agree. Especially about the improved railroad lines. Japan can produce high speed rail. Maybe the US needs to think ahead to that future. But, the US should NOT include the city of New York and other coastal cities like Miami and others on the East Coast because they will LIKELY be underwater by 2090. Take CLIMATE SCIENCE into consideration when making Federal decisions.

Great humor! And proves a point better than long dialog like I use!

Very correct about the good old days (1975 and earlier) when people of different views could debate and then be friends because we were all Americans.........and here comes the BIG point.........MOST all Americans THEN were the SAME financially. Most of us (The US) were middle class then (before 1975). What happened after that????? Partial answer - outsourcing and changing of the tax code to benefit the WEALTHY.

Ah yes...when are ancestors came through Ellis Island, were sponsored and had jobs waiting for them in the cities and towns in which they resided. True manufacturing positions that were designed for a 30 year career with healthcare and pensions. Those earnings usually spent in those same communities further giving stability to its residents and commercial base. A guy can dream can’t he? Now where is my Amazon package!

No outsourcing and moving companies overseas or south of border putting Americans out of work factory blue collar work and making CEOs and Wall Street investors rich. That’s what wiped out middle class then. The new wipe out will be AI.

I don't believe much in this article. The problem that I see with electric vehicles is the limited range for long trips.

We do everything you mentioned was made by crud oil gasoline just one of by products. Without fossil fuels NONE of them would be possible. We still be rubbing two sticks together and using jaw bone of Ashe.

Carbon dioxide CO2 was fine throughout most of human history. But, it has become excessive - more than can be absorbed by trees and plants. We can see trees bulldozed up here locally. The Brazilian rain forest of the Amazon has been cut down for farming. Most of this UNBALANCE has expressed itself in the last 15 years because not CO2 BUT EXCESS CO2 has gotten into the ocean and is killing the Coral REEFS. And the excess CO2 has settled around the upper atmosphere and REFLECTED HEAT back to the Earth. This keeps causing greater and greater hurricanes each year. This can be PROVEN right NOW by anybody willing to read that the Golf of Mexico is already (before summer even) at record temperatures. AND also, is the whole WORLD heating up.
.........South America's heating up is causing ALL the movement of people from Venezuela and other South American countries northward to the US. This will not stop because the planet's population is spiking upward right NOW. That means more EXCESS CO2 coming out of gasoline engine exhaust.

.... and for EV minerals

Growth of electric vehicles endangering rain forests

No matter where we all stand on this thread....I’m getting depressed by the thought of all of this producing even more bike lanes across our country. Ugh

Perhaps we should make an attempt to broaden the spectrum of our understanding of the complex yet positive impact that EV replacement is having on our environments and move of the puerile commentary such as "My MACHE gives me all the vroom, vroom I want without the gurgling muffler sound" or "My Prius drives on a full tank to New York and back".
The nuance and sophistication of appropriate environment modelling goes well beyond some of the shallow opinions shared here on TV pages.

Just a moment...

It is the truth. The production of batteries pollutes 100x more than the exhaust from any gas vehicle. You are being down a road with untruths.