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jimjamuser 09-26-2020 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1838998)
Perhaps YOU should do some checking.Every one of the countries you quote now has increasing spikes. Australia and New Zealand are back in lock down/ Japan and the rest have locked down parts of their countries. All they did was delay the virus, not stop it. Sweden got it right.

Delaying the virus is the same as saying "saving lives". Are you against saving lives? Maybe they opened too early and they will learn from that. Their total deaths will be lower than the US's when and if this Plague is ever over. The US is learning NOTHING from other countries.

vilger 09-26-2020 05:57 PM

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Really? Let’s look at the Florida numbers. In the months of March-June when fewer people were wearing masks, there were fewer deaths. When mask wearing became virtually mandatory in July & August, the death rate from the virus tripled. Facts, not feelings...
The increase in deaths in July and August would have nothing to do with the governor allowing bars, tattoo shops, massage parlors, etc. to reopen in the beginning of June?

graciegirl 09-26-2020 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott O (Post 1838564)
COVID-19 SURVIVAL RATES (per CDC):
Ages 0-19: 99.997%
Ages 20-49: 99.98%
Ages 50-69: 99.5%
Ages 70+: 94.6%
Really here’s the facts, be more alarmed by the false stresses your imposing on your body with hysteria, be more concerned with having a heart attack.....or cancer

I don't see anyone hysterical. I see them calm and careful. I am tired of people taunting others with labels like "paranoid" and "hysterical" and "afraid" and dismissing their being careful and knowing the risks with being a "sissy".

Stu from NYC 09-26-2020 06:20 PM

Isnt hindsight great thing to have?

John41 09-26-2020 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by meridian5850 (Post 1838585)
Why are YOU so resistant to science?

COVID-19 SURVIVAL RATES (per CDC):
Ages 0-19: 99.997%
Ages 20-49: 99.98%
Ages 50-69: 99.5%
Ages 70+: 94.6%
Sounds more like political hysteria from the left, to remain locked down....not facts...

The CDC mortality rate we saw was 4% for 70-79 and 24% for 80 and above. I agree you can’t shut the whole country down for a small age group like us and it was wise to reopen Florida. Those of us a high risk need to be extra careful and the extended shopping were helpful. We will also be wearing masks until there is an effective vaccine.

Topspinmo 09-26-2020 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1838325)
Seems early. It will swing back in about three weeks. :ohdear:

Yes, Nostradamus!

Joe V. 09-26-2020 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by vilger (Post 1839040)
Current public policy should be based on current data, not stale data.



Did you read the paper I pointed too. Not a chance? Stay sheltered for everyone's sake.

Stu from NYC 09-26-2020 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1839087)
Another Nostradamus

Wow that Nostradamus guy sure gets around

coffeebean 09-26-2020 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1839045)
Delaying the virus is the same as saying "saving lives". Are you against saving lives? Maybe they opened too early and they will learn from that. Their total deaths will be lower than the US's when and if this Plague is ever over. The US is learning NOTHING from other countries.

Delaying the virus is what it is all about. Delaying the virus is buying us time to achieve herd immunity with a vaccine. That is the safe way to do it.

Vaccine....sign me up. THEN I will live life back to normal.

vinnytalk 09-26-2020 09:19 PM

At least it gives everyone a choice,
I would think any good business Will ease into it.

NancyLee 09-27-2020 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott O (Post 1838543)
COVID-19 SURVIVAL RATES (per CDC):
Ages 0-19: 99.997%
Ages 20-49: 99.98%
Ages 50-69: 99.5%
Ages 70+: 94.6%
So the whole country should stay locked up? Or high risk population should be careful? Hmmmm...maybe facts should prevail instead of hysteria...

Survival rate means living through the virus. It also means living through the virus, but having severe pulmonary problems for the rest of your life.

patfla06 09-27-2020 01:33 AM

If you’re high risk, as I am, nothing has changed to allow me to go back to normal.

So personally I have to continue to stay home.

But we each have to decide what is worth the risk.
If you’re not high risk you may have more options.

Praying for an effective vaccine soon. Stay safe.

twinklesweep 09-27-2020 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1839049)

I don't see anyone hysterical. I see them calm and careful. I am tired of people taunting others with labels like "paranoid" and "hysterical" and "afraid" and dismissing their being careful and knowing the risks with being a "sissy".

I completely agree. People are free to choose their own comfort level—and free to ignore the small-minded comments about their carefulness. We see fairly consistently what happens in areas in the US and around the world when they are opened up for reasons that seem to defy public health policy—and one doesn’t have to be Nostradamus to be aware of this.

I could never wrap my head around the thinking that the percentages are so small that the disease is inconsequential overall. Remember that these now 200,000+ deaths—whether directly from COVID-19 or from a complicating issue that they had learned to live with, perhaps for many years—these are individual lives and families struggling through a terrible tragedy....

mrf6969 09-27-2020 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DanBrew (Post 1838488)
It is just so simple if you are unhealthy and at risk, stay home. If not, stop living in fear. The CDC has revealed that 94% of reported deaths were not solely due to the deadly virus. No one wants to be sick, but understand that viruses have existed in our ecosystem since the beginning of time. Use good hygiene and some common sense and try to get beyond this apocolyptic fear driven mentality.

Finally, there is some common sense. Thanks Dan !

Girlcopper 09-27-2020 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1838541)
Absolutely not. The masks that people are wearing around here are absolutely pointless . Read what world renowned epidemiologist have said about masks. The Covid molecule is so small it can even pass through an N 95 mask. These cloth face coverings that people are wearing are absolutely useless other than for psychological purposes. I see people wearing masks into restaurants and then taking them off when they sit down. Virtually the whole restaurant is that way. As it should be. Don’t you all realize how ridiculous this is?

Shame on those people for removing their mask to eat!! Mask wearing is supposed to be in conjunction with social distancing so those tiny particles that squeeze out of the alleged useless masks are not spread to others.


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