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ROCKMUP 08-01-2021 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1981872)
Sadly it is even worse than that, I have heard many say how they didn't think they should have to pay taxes to run schools because they don't have any kids. yeah, right.

They aren't wrong. Just because you can breed doesn't mean you should, even the most base creature can do it and it shows.

rustyp 08-01-2021 06:17 PM

Are the Rec Centers requiring masks again ?

toniandjosef@aol.com 08-01-2021 06:56 PM

Why not a license
 
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Originally Posted by ROCKMUP (Post 1981917)
They aren't wrong. Just because you can breed doesn't mean you should, even the most base creature can do it and it shows.

Yeah we have a licensing requirements for everything except parenting. Do you have to get a license to get married but not having a child?

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-01-2021 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1981872)
Sadly it is even worse than that, I have heard many say how they didn't think they should have to pay taxes to run schools because they don't have any kids. yeah, right.

I use that line whenever someone says they shouldn't have to pay taxes for [insert whatever they don't approve of because it doesn't fit their agenda].

I don't have kids, why should I have to pay taxes for schools?

(the correct answer to that challenge question is: because some day one of those kids will become YOUR president. You have a choice NOW in ensuring that that kid gets the best education your tax dollars can buy.)

GrumpyOldMan 08-01-2021 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ROCKMUP (Post 1981917)
They aren't wrong. Just because you can breed doesn't mean you should, even the most base creature can do it and it shows.

I completely agree with you, but whether you personally have kids or not doesn't matter. Education is a minor expense that pays back big time. It is in everyone's best interest to educate all the children.

Sadly, our school system is broken like so many things that used to work.

GrumpyOldMan 08-01-2021 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1981946)
I use that line whenever someone says they shouldn't have to pay taxes for [insert whatever they don't approve of because it doesn't fit their agenda].

I don't have kids, why should I have to pay taxes for schools?

(the correct answer to that challenge question is: because some day one of those kids will become YOUR president. You have a choice NOW in ensuring that that kid gets the best education your tax dollars can buy.)

That is one possibility but studies show education directly relates to odds of becoming a crimminal, lifetime earning potential which relates to payback in taxes, and so much more.

John41 08-01-2021 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1981947)
I completely agree with you, but whether you personally have kids or not doesn't matter. Education is a minor expense that pays back big time. It is in everyone's best interest to educate all the children.

Sadly, our school system is broken like so many things that used to work.

Agree completely with you on education. Even if someone doesn’t have children someone else’s child might grow up to be a scientist who develops a drug that helps everyone live a healthier life. Also agree education system is broken and the US is way behind the world.

ROCKMUP 08-01-2021 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1981947)
I completely agree with you, but whether you personally have kids or not doesn't matter. Education is a minor expense that pays back big time. It is in everyone's best interest to educate all the children.

Sadly, our school system is broken like so many things that used to work.

Understood.
It becomes a deep deep well about how broken it is and what to do.
I'd be fine with it if they were accountable for the money they already have. Until that time people will always fight it.

B-flat 08-01-2021 08:55 PM

My opinion here, they are using the "fear factor" to a degree. Let's just keep the southern border open and let everyone in who could spread the virus, then put them on airplanes and bus them to different cities and states. No one can tell me that is not playing into this equation.

OrangeBlossomBaby 08-01-2021 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by B-flat (Post 1981975)
My opinion here, they are using the "fear factor" to a degree. Let's just keeping the southern border open and let everyone in who could spread the virus, then put them on airplanes and bus them to different cities and states. No one can tell me that is not playing into this equation.

Yes that's "fear factor" being spread by propagandists with an anti-immigrant agenda. They want you to be terrified that immigrants will make you die, and take your jobs, and rape your women.

It's so much easier for them, than it is for them to admit that Americans, in general, have failed to protect our own and are spreading the virus just fine by ourselves without the help of the current batches of border-hoppers.

thevillages2013 08-02-2021 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1981937)
Are the Rec Centers requiring masks again ?

Not yet. No signs requiring or requesting masks

nick demis 08-02-2021 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1981753)
Well, I think the Governor is wrong. I think the scientists are right. I think we are at the beginning of a major surge of a new variant that is much more contagious than the variant we went through for the past 18 months. To me, that makes much more sense.

But, whatever, hopefully, the significant surge will motivate some that maybe they should get vaccinated and stop with all the excuses.

Oh yes.
The new variant is almost as contagious as...... wait for it...... THE COMMON COLD.
About as contagious as .......wait for it...... MASS HYSTERIA

The only thing I agree with you is that more need to get vaccinated.

Love2Swim 08-02-2021 05:09 AM

There are approximately 10-11 Million Florida residents who have NOT been vaccinated. You can say tourists or staying indoors excaberates the problem, but the fact is, if these millions of residents got vaccinated, we wouldn't be "number one".

collegeref 08-02-2021 05:10 AM

Yes it would

nick demis 08-02-2021 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1981977)
Yes that's "fear factor" being spread by propagandists with an anti-immigrant agenda. They want you to be terrified that immigrants will make you die, and take your jobs, and rape your women.

It's so much easier for them, than it is for them to admit that Americans, in general, have failed to protect our own and are spreading the virus just fine by ourselves without the help of the current batches of border-hoppers.

Talk about a propogandists. More people should learn the FACTS before speaking. PS It's anti ILLEGAL immigration.


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